Whats the point of space movies when realistically we will never make it to other worlds?

That would almost certainly require self-replicating machinery, which means would at the very least be able to send probes to explore other worlds or perhaps even build infrastructure awaiting our arrival.

This is OP, the post count confirms it. He creates these theads just so he can post this retard-tier bait and probably show his epic (You) screencaps on reddit.

> God is fake! He was just made up by some guys writing a book!

> dude space is real just trust this textbook written by some guys lmao

Fuck sciencefags

>this thread again

Fuck off retard. 85% of the universe is made of something we don't understand and black holes already break laws of physics.

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It's called science fiction for a reason

whats the point of fantasy movies when realistically we will never get pointy ears and cast spells?

With which resources ?

>inverse wormhole drives
is that the scientific name for jenna haze's asshole?

brainlet detected. If I were to travel at v = c for it would indeed take 6 earth orbits to travel to Barnard's star, but I would experience no time change from my perspective and my age would be precisely the same as when I made the change in my velocity. If I then made a return to earth, 12 years would have passed but I would be no older.

You can literally watch space if you buy a fucking telescope retard. Not to mention you use shit like GPS in your everyday life you absolute ape.

What has God ever done that proves his existence? It's no different than believing in fucking fairies.

fuck going to other planets this is what I wanna do

Take your meds you are schizo

what is time dilation? what does it have to do with speedrunning?

The ones is space? Our solar system has far more resources in space than on Earth. Moon has literally everything industry needs. And assembling giant structures is super easy in zero G.

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Except we literally see time dilatation with black hole jets.

>we don't understand it therefore we will do it
Based retard

>What has God ever done that proves His existence?
The universe.

Time is influenced by speed and gravity among others.
The faster you go, the less you age in comparison to earth years. This is relative, you don't actually live longer but you experience time in a different rate.

General and Special relativity have been experimentally proven by countless sources. Enlighten yourself.

>normies in charge of quantum physics
kek

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> black hole jets

> NOTHING can escape form a black hole not even light !

> oh but it also shoots out jets haha trust us just trust us haha

Imagine being as retarded as this guy.

> proven by countless ((((sources)))

Im sure

They landed a probe on a comet, why not attach an astronaut to one?

Oort cloud sounds fun. What's in there?

user I think you missed the joke here. He's referencing speedrunning because it's a meme that a lot of transsexuals participate in that activity, and are known for having to 'dilate' their neo-vaginas.

Your fucking phone would be considered black magic 200 years ago.

>Theory of relativity
>Quantum physics

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Phones therefore we will explore other worlds, wonderful conclusion. Like I said, literally a religion

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THIS ENTIRE THREAD IS OP SAMEFAGGING BECAUSE HE IS MENTALLY ILL. SAGE.

Not him, but how is it possible? Shouldn't those jets break the speed of light to escape?

10th planet

Christcuck cope

based

This is the peak of human science a 100 years ago.

People like you should be fucking executed.

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Where was quantum physics even mentioned in my post? Fucking retard.
read up on hawking radiation

Poor guy, why ?

Cloud City

You can't break the speed of light. Accelerating at the speed of lights generates energy instead. This is why shooting lasers at black holes way be the best source of energy in far future.

>takes only four years to get to next star
why hasn't nasa sent a satilite there yet?

Too meta for my dumb ass.

if you dilate your time you will begin speedrunning and then you will do it faster and faster

>just trust this textbook

Or like look at the fucking sky?

That's the evidence of Allah

>the past was like this therefore my Sci fi dreams WILL happen
Literally a religion

That's why I'm perplexed. How does this lead to blackhole evaporation?

Because everything we have today will run out of fuel long before hitting light speed.

just look at a star during an eclipse

Thats....not how that works buddy

Humans knew that flight is possible half a million years before building the first plane, cause they've seen birds fly.
Humans today are sure that FTL travel is impossible cause we've literally never seen anything go faster than light and all our understanding of physics is based on observations and rules that forbid it.

Hawking Radiation.

>Humans today are sure that FTL travel is impossible

Which is why there are already multiple models allowing FTL right?

Light speed travel is impossible, and even if it was possible probably a small rock would destroy it at that speed

>i have never used a GPS

spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/crew/exp7/luletters/lu_letter13.html

Imagine willing to be this ignorant in the information age.

4 years at lightspeed user.

who cares about going lightspeed if its only four years away?

Even without FTL time of space travel stops mattering once you merge humans with machines. If you live for 20k years 4 years of travel mean nothing. You can be playing porn games in VR during that time. Or just be in sleep mode.

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Kill yourself you seething redditor. Your pathetic astroturfing campagin doesn't work when we can all see it's you, you human parasite.
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What's the point of being a defeatist cuckboi when we all know you fags don't even matter in the grand scheme of things?

You'llbe sat on your fat redneck ass never doing anything of note, you'll die, no one will remember you, all while people who are actually smart figure out the solutions to all the problems you say are unsolvable. Pathetic.

I know, someone mentioned it earlier. I'm reading it now, I just don't see how the fact that a particle-anti-particle pair being created on the event horizon leads to less mass in the end. Or is it because the model predicts the end mass of the system has to equal the beggining mass, so when one particle is created on the outside of the event horizon, the black hole has to lose mass to account for this?

GPS is land based

Its called science fiction for a reason. Humanity will never leave this planet. It will burn itself out in it's pestilential abomination and take the rest of creation with it. What a fucking disaster.

>same old thread
>same old "literally a religion" poster

It's pretty obvious, op. Haven't you argued enough already?

there are multiple models allowing literally everything. theoretical physicists literally make stuff up that we'll never be able to verify through experiments.

Though we have theoretical models that could work they’re all based off us having a negative mass material that as far as we know doesn’t exist

You answered your own question. The point is that we will never make it to other worlds. We need something to get the pop sci retard manchildren to calm down and shut the fuck up and scifi is the way to do this.

Are you schizophrenic, or just by and large an utter newfag?

then what are we shooting GPS satellites into space for?

>Posts: 67
>IPs: 28
Maybe it's you.

It almost like people are discussing the subject instead of posting a meme and leaving, incredible Woah...

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It's so diffuse that you would never find anything, similar to the asteroid belt but much worse.

youtu.be/uD4izuDMUQA

Watch this autists and shut up.

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What's the point of fantasy movies if realistically we will never have magic.

Yes, it literally is. Please do some research before you start mindlessly calling bullshit on everything.

Space movies are about human myths, the setting is space because that’s what’s in atm. In 100 years the setting could be anal glands, who knows

Joke's on you I'm doing magic every day.

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>V=C

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>my body will magically decide to stop aging yet every other biological process will still function at normal speed

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>already multiple models allowing FTL right
There aren't. Stuff like the Alcubierre Drive is just physicists playing around with math they know doesn't make sense for fun, but naturally it gets reported in the media as "scientists prove Star Trek warp travel".

>tfw born to soon to watch mythical anal gland kino

nice bait, keep triggering those autists.

>when realistically we will never make it to other worlds?
Says who? Almost certainly not in our lifetimes, though.

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How is what human race does related to enjoyment of a person? An average Yea Forums virgin watching porn is the equivalent of humanity watching movies about colonizing space, you retard.

Its physically impossible
>Inb4 we invented the plane so anything is possible bro

And yet dumbasses like you believe aliens are real. No evidence.

If it takes 2 light years to reach the next solar system then if you travel at the speed of light you will reach there in 2 years regardless of what the fuck earth is doing you retard. Yes there is no such thing as time in space since its just a way to measure how many ties the earth revolves around the sun but unless you are literally immortal then you still experience it as travelling for 2 years

Except it's taken seriously by scientists. It works already with our baby tier science the only problem is energy.

And considering how my laptop is using more energy every day than entire humanity used few centuries back, this is hardly a problem.

Because there is so much evidence for God...

How to summon succubus?

>Its physically impossible
If you were able to reach a relativistic speed and you could counter the effects of zero-G/get freezing people to work right then it could be done.

>Its physically impossible
Why ? We already sent probes and rovers on other planets.

Jacking off to little girl drawings isn't magic, pedo

GRUG SAY GORG IS DUMB. WE NEVER MAKE IT OVER MOUNTAIN RANGE! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE STOP TRYING DUM DUM! GRUG SEE NO POINT IN THINKING ABOUT ANYTHING BUT CAVE.

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v is for velocity
c is the speed of light
I thought that was standard notation, maybe you use different letters? What country are you from?
Not exactly. I'm obviously speaking from a theoretical stand point, we don't currently know how to accelerate a human consciousness to the speed of light. We do know that special relatively exists, and the implications of it.

No you're biological functions wouldn't continue at a normal speed - if you were traveling at v = c then your "body" would have to be converted into something that has no rest mass for instance: a bunch of photons.

>if the impossible was possible it would be ez bro
Literally a religion

Nope
Not you amerisharts
You never contributed shit

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That's just a rock

>if the impossible was possible
Where is your evidence that it's impossible
How is putting a robot on the moon and having a woman in space "relevant" but actually landing people on it isn't? Just more Ameriphobic butthurt,I presume?

retard

Considering how much we improved over last 100 years and how much money is pumped into space travel today it may very well happen far sooner than people think.

Neural interfaces should be top priority though. The moment we achieve that time pretty much stops being a factor.

>Travel at speed of light
>You dont get any older but everyone you know will be older or dead

FTL or wormholes or gtfo, no one wants this

>scienctific research, mathematical theory and experimental evidence is a jewish psyop
Ok

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holy fuck you're retarded. Research first, before you start spewing garbage out of your shit-stained mouth.

wrong

>v is for velocity
>c is the speed of light
You missed the point of that user's post entirely. v = c is literally impossible.

>accelerate a human consciousness to the speed of light
>your "body" would have to be converted into something that has no rest mass for instance
Nevermind it's not even worth trying.

USA and Chinks are going to dominate the new space race though. The moment somebody kickstarts real space industry we will see a completely new era.

there's plenty of materials on asteroids to mine, though it doesn't seem feasible enough for anyone to invest in. Even so, the technology isn't there. Probably never will be, we're entering a new dark age. Forget space, it's extinction time.

Anyone else wish they were enough of a brainlet to believe in god? It must be so comforting.

>evidence that it's impossible
Burden of proof isn't on him. You have to justify your religion of infinite technological progress.

>proving a negative

>but actually landing people
Because landing on moon doesn't move science and progress forward or prove shit other than you buttmad rednecks have little penise size.

What is more relevant inventing helicopter or reaching everest using it?

Traveling at 50% speed of light for a distance of 10 light years.
People from Earth see you travel for 20 years.
You experience the journey for 17 years.
Even that speed is hard to achieve as you'll need to accelerate at 1g for half the journey to reach it and then decelerate for the rest.

This we made it to the mountains so ANY of my autistic Sci fi dreams will be possible. We will also grow 2 more dicks and be 8 feet tall. We made it to the mountain so it will happen, if you don't agree with me you are just like those who questioned the first man going to the mountain

hit the tracks tranny. you tiresome freak

Going interstellar is a big, stupid meme. We'll only do it via generation ships. What isn't a big, stupid meme are O'NEILL CYLINDERS FUCKING EVERYWHERE. We'll just create our own worlds.

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The reddit science is strong in this one

First we need better propulsion and a way to actually deliver payloads from space into earth efficiently and safely
Then when the private mining sector joins the fray we will see a new renaissance boosted by the private sector
Then we gonna have colonies out of our asses

Nope. As you approach speed of light time flows slower for you. At 1c you literally don't experience time at all so in a ship moving at 1c journey to a nearby star would feel like a 1 second jump.

>there's plenty of materials
What kind of exactly?
Do you understand that rockets are still flying using fossil fuels?

What possible "evidence" could there be? Let's say the sky opened up and angels descended to the earth right this moment, it wouldn't conclusively prove anything except that these things are possible by one means or another. It could be some kind of crazy technology or even manipulation of senses. You could never trust a phenomena out in the world as evidence of God's existence. Anything at all could be chalked up to aliens or drugs or wizards or whatever.

That's why the message of "looking inside" is prevalent in most religions, ie. "The kingdom of God is within you" or "Know thyself." It's within you that knowing takes place, so we're encouraged to "know the knower." Anything external to yourself can be waved away by any number of explanations, but to discover the fundamental reality that is often referred to as God within the core of your own being is irrefutable, because it's experienced not as something to which you have a relationship, but as what you really are. You can talk about God forever and never reach a conclusion, and you can look for him forever and never find him. Because the thing that is looking is itself the thing that it's looking for.

To be human is to dream. We will always look to the horizon and fantasize about what lies beyond it.

No, you have to justify that it's impossible. If "We don't know if it is possible" is what he said then that would be okay, but you have to have specific evidence that something cannot be done to say that it is impossible.
>Because landing on moon doesn't move science and progress forward
And sending wimminz to space does. Right, looks like
>Just more Ameriphobic butthurt,I presume?
I was right

with shitloads of rare metals

Yes we will most likely have space habitats long before long distance travel.

But we still don't understand a lot of things and one discovery could change how we look at FTL.

A particle and anti particle destroy one another and create energy. Mass is depleted.

Space science is the reddit religion, they just believe whatever bullshit scientists say

Our entire industry is about mining rocks. Space has more and better rocks.

If v=c then time outside your ship passes instantaneously from your perspective. The entire universe would end instantly after your magic ship accelerated to c.

>buck buck buck
that's what I though

When v = c
t prime will remain 0 as t -> infinity
meaning that the observer will experience no time change compared to the time change that you would experience at rest.

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wrong. they use liquid hyrdogen and liquid oxygen. how about you use google before you spew bullshit

i actually have no idea what you were attempting to communicate with this post

You realize you can make rocket fuel from ice right brainlet?

the point is that it's impossible for an object with mass to travel at the speed of light
>if you were traveling at v = c then your "body" would have to be converted into something that has no rest mass for instance: a bunch of photons.
that is absolutely NOT how it works. you don't lose mass the closer you get to light speed, you gain it. the faster you go, the more energy it takes to move your increased mass, until you reach a point where you gain mass faster than you gain speed. that's why traveling at light speed is fundamentally impossible and even traveling anywhere close to it nearly so.

You can make rocket fuel from anything. You can grab a rock and throw it out the back of your "rocket" and it would propel you forward. Doesn't mean it will have sufficient specific impulse to get you sufficient delta v

Why do people already want to go to other star systems when we have barely explored the Solar System? I hope we find complex life on one of those icy moons to shut you impatient faggots up.

I have seen this thread three times now, and every single time it has the exact same replies to the exact same posts. They are identical. He makes these threads, posts basic scientific facts in them, and then spends the next three hours replying to his own posts with inane drivel to paint a false picture of a large majority of people disagreeing with basic science. He's either a religious retard on a moral crusade, a redditor baiting for replies, or a literal mental patient. Either way, his shitty bait spam threads should be deleted. This is not a discussion, it is a mentally ill person spamming their own thread with literally dozens of posts. Yeah, instead of posting a meme, and leaving, he posts a meme, and then keeps doing it over, and over, for multiple hours. That’s much better.

In space you have an obscene amount of minerals at surface level

Some of these materials are a pain in the ass to mine on earth, be it because of geopolitical reasons, or because they became scarce over the years, or because some chuckle fucks have a monopoly on it

You are retarded if you dont think Mining Sector dont salivate at the idea of infinite mining

Assuming you can get to the speed of light you could travel almost anywhere in your lifetime
Everyone else would be dead though so it's a one way trip
That's why space movies are dum, they forget this basic fact

Most likely a form of time travel will be our easiest way of experiencing the different "worlds" of earth cause if you go back any major amount of time earth looks different enough
Even going back 100 years would be a huge change
This is most likely what aliens are, our future selves after we've all bred into some gross grey mix of all our skin colors where our most used features eyes and fingers have evolved as those are the most used and we'll have no muscle and be skinny cause there's no need for muscle mass and we won't need hair

Doesn't matter most new evidence shows we're in a simulation anyways which is why no other planet even renders

>And sending wimminz to space does.
Sending wimminz in space was about testing wimmin physiology in extreme conditions of space

But it's the escape of one of the particles, not their destruction, that is said to lower the mass of the black hole

The Great Filter theory is likely true and we are alone

This is what I don't get. Stuff like Star Trek or Star Wars made everyone believe that FTL should be the norm when in reality there is so much to explore in our tiny system.

never did I say that you lost mass the closer you get to c. I said that in order to travel at the speed of light, you would have to have no rest mass. I fully understand that it is physically impossible to accelerate an object with rest mass to the speed of light, because it would take an infinite amount of energy.

what is dailalation?

Most movies do FTL or wormholes/warp drives

So its not lightspeed travel

The religion of incels

Oh boy I'm sure the tiny 21st century Russian space program with a shoestring budget on top of a small and sickly economy will surely triumph over the US, China and all the private corporations.

One half of the particle/anti particle pairs quantum tunnels out of the event horizon.

Just fold spacetime doofus

Yeah, probably. imo the filter is probably the development of eukaryotic cells.

>our future selves after we've all bred into some gross grey mix of all our skin colors

In reality future humans would spend so much time in artificial light they should be pale as fuck unless they specifically want to get a tan.

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Maybe it's possible. Space rock mining would take so much investment just to get the venture started, and on a gamble. Can't see any business entity on Earth right now that would be willing to do that.

People can barely make it to the moon, it will never ever happen, also what's the point there's a lot of the planet left to build cities and shit

then what was the whole point of your initial post? yes, you wouldn't age if you got turned into photons , but you also wouldn't do anything else, because you'd be dead.

>Right now
The tech is not there yet for a large scale mining operation, yeah
But seems likely in 50 years since people are pumping a lot of money into spacefaring research nowadays

Thats exactly how it works you retards. Stop taking your info from Star Trek and unproven theories lazily tacked onto special theory of relativity, when its taken fucking 80 years to prove Einsteins theory

Bullshit we already know that there are stars better at sustaining life than our own and simulations show that Earth is not even perfect for life. Slightly bigger planet around A type star is better.

We don't see aliens because:

1. Universe is very young and we are likely one of the earlier civilizations

2. Our technology is still a joke and we can't see exoplanets

3. Radio bubble gets weaker as technology advance and with current tech we would not be able to detect ourselves from just 20 light years away

After next gen telescopes that can actually see exoplanet's atmosphere go online we will start getting life signatures all over the galaxy.

>Great Filter theory
The Great Filter is really easy to explain too. Interstellar travel is basically impossible and advanced planet bound civilizations are too rare and far flung from one another to receive radio signals. Then they just use up all the resources they have and go extinct. There you go. This shouldn't even be controversial.

If current projections are correct the species will have bigger problems in 50 years than mining asteroids. The rich building colonies off the planet is more feasible by then.

Nah those exist for almost 3 billion years so they appeared already when Earth was pretty much hell.

Stop shitposting and go read a book.

the point of my initial post was to show that humans could, in theory, make an interstellar journey and that special relativity is often overlooked. The whole 'humans traveling at light speed' thing is kind of just hyperbole.

>there's a lot of the planet left to build cities and shit

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3 billion years seems relatively quick to develop a wide variety of multicellular life, including one that is sending robots to other worlds. The 1+ billion years between life starting and eukaryotes appearing seems huge for life just to get slightly more complex

Is that wrong?

Yes just like black people become pale. We'd most likely still have melanin in our skin
And we most likely would use some false form of sunlight as its the easiest way to see with eyeballs so why not make it as close to natural sun as possible

Colonies will either form out of necessity or pursuit of profit
So either way I dont see humanity not planting a flag on a planet in this century, it will happen, the question is why

Stop getting your info from star wars

>it will happen I swear
Literally a religion

Yes it is. How is building cities a goal ?

Out of necessity the aristocracy will either go off the earth or under the ground. Assuming enough organization to pull it off still exists then. You may be right, but who knows.

>It won't happen I swear
Literally a religion

>we are likely one of the earlier civilizations
Our species was rather slow to achieve civilization though.

slow compared to what?

>slow to achieve civilization though
Slow compared to what? Neither this post nor the one it's replying to has any frame of reference. My personal guess though would be that we're early simply because of the long lifespan of some types of stars, so there's plenty of opportunity for life yet, even if we'll never know about it.

>pokes a pencil through a folded piece of paper
FOOL!!!

Did I even mention goals? You are mentally ill

Right back at you retard.

Someone redpill me on future humans travelers being the ones that are mistaken as aliens

Traveling to the future is easy enough just by going fast enough but is backwards time travel possible

Bullshit. Universe is just 14 billion years old when it's going to reach like 500 billion trillion years. We are living at the very beginning. Not long ago it was simply too chaotic for complex life to survive for long.

>Doesn't matter most new evidence shows we're in a simulation anyways which is why no other planet even renders
Sim theory actually has more evidence and it's far more logical than any other theory for our existence

Btw, this post I'm replying to is one of his tactics to throw people of his tail, this is still the one guy

None of that shit is possible, stop watching black science man

You are schizo

Compared to ourselves. From antiquity to industrial revolution for example we did nothing, that's 2000 years lost, it's considerable. Imagine our civilization 2000 years in the future, that's what other planets may have achieved, and they would be way ahead of us.

>is backwards time travel possible
not within the framework of this reality

Bro we just exploded from nothing bro

>tfw majority of civilizations will likely arise toward the end and not even realize there are other galaxies due to the expansion of the universe
Kinda sad.

>it's going to reach 500 billion trillion years
If you think a universe entirely populated by giant black holes is prone for complex life to survive then sure, I guess we're at the beggining.

>Compared to ourselves
That's completely meaningless when trying to figure out whether we're earlier than alien civilizations or later. We have a sample size of exactly one.

>reddit space theory and guessing is now 'basic science'

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Lmaoing@ all the baiting r*ddit retards itt. We'll achieve interstellar travel if God intended it, simple as.

White people are the only people to advance society to where it is
Other worlds might just be filled with colored who can't even progress beyond a mud hut

It's entirely possible billions if civilizations exist but we're the only whites so we're the only ones to ever get this far

Imagine native Americans never progressing for thousands of years
That stagnation could be normal for even intelligent beings

>from antiquity to industrial revolution we did nothing
>huge advances in maritime technology allowing to finally embark on the ocean
>huge advances in gunpowder technology
>huge 300 feet tall buildings
>huge advances in metallurgy
>the fucking printing press
This is your brain on pospci, everyone

elon musk will take us there

believe in him

If an alien is from a planet with nicer climate conditions than Earth spread across a wider area then there is a good chance they never progress past Africa-tier. Traveling and planning ahead for the rough seasons is likely what created the level of intelligence associated with Whites and Asians.

You can keep saying it all you want, the proof is literally in the top right corner of your screen. Pretending to be me just makes you look like even more of a redditor, btw.

Here he is. Stop making your spam threads. Do you have a mod account or something? Why is this clearly off-topic garbage whitelisted?

It hardly matters what else is or was or will be going on out there. By sheer distance and time we are alone. It's possible others have taken notice of us, but unlikely. We may be the only sentient life for a thousand light years.

Elon

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>>huge advances in maritime technology allowing to finally embark on the ocean
nope
>>huge advances in gunpowder technology
how is that essential ?
>>huge 300 feet tall buildings
Kheops called, he says you're a cretin
>>huge advances in metallurgy
nope
>>the fucking printing press
ok for this one

>how is that essential ?
Terrible bait.

>huge advances in maritime technology allowing to finally embark on the ocean
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caravel
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner's_astrolabe
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_clock
>how is gunpowder essential
how is your backpedalling so fucking sloppy? Original argument was civilizational advances. Go eat some lead and cope harder, gunpowder is a sign of that.
>Kheops called, he says you're a cretin
Gonna go on a limb and say that a cathedral is a tad more complicated to plan and erect than a fucking pyramid.
>huge advances in metallurgy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mining_and_metallurgy_in_medieval_Europe#High_Middle_Ages,_11th_to_13th_centuries
This is all basic stuff you could have easily googled yourself. You're clearly uneducated on the topic and just want to spout dumb bullshit without arguments for the sake of being contrarian. Go pick up a book before making yourself look like even more of an ass.

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bump

Prove the special theory of relativity and ill believe you, until then its just a theory you fucktard

What's the point in making the same thread 5+ times and posting the same old bait yet people still reply the same way everytime

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