Ant-Man (Paul Rudd) is by far the best character from the Avengers and is arguably the most important one

>best character
what does this mean? he's hardly a character and is just paul rudd. arguably paul rudd is better than most of the "characters" in MCU but that's not saying much

Anybody got orange slices?

Well they finally let him be serious, too.
>great scene of him realizing that everyone is dead, but his daughter is alive and old now
>starts yelling at tony for not helping them

I really hate how much the cast roasted each other but I really liked the "hello normal sized man" comment that war machine had when he saw him because the last time he saw him he was giant and grabbing him out of the air at the airport fight.

he was dope when he punched the leviathan square in the jaw

>Paul Rudd
why are they so dishonest hes not that buff he wishes he had pecs

And just stomps on black dwarf.

He was juicy in his movies

Antman was such a waste of a movie.
It could have been so good .
Wright was connected to it. I'm really sad that never worked out.
What we got seemed so lazy.
Look at the seen where he falls through the floors.
He falls down an apartment tub drain, then into a night club with 500 people dancing then into an old women's apartment where shes just vacuuming in a quiet house.
It's like a bunch of disconnected scenes just slammed together in rapid succession.
The whole movie feels rushed like that too

>this is juicy
honey, he just stopped eating to get that physique , he probably cant even deadlift

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I 100% hate how dumb and useless he's typically portrayed as. Leave that to Quinn instead.

Unironically my goal physique

the scenes with him walking around through snapped Earth were unironic kino. i'd watch three hours of post-apocalyptic Ant-Man survival in a heartbeat

This.
Ant-Man and Wasp are also the best couple in the MCU right now

He’s the most underrated superheroes and his movies have some of the best costume designs out of all the marvel movies.

Ant man also has top tier cuties

What does him being Jewish have to do with anything?

fuck off he's one of the good ones

I hope there's a flashback sequence of all the shit he took from everybody right before he crushes Galactus's head with his bare hands

I love their costumes so much

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KYS

Same, they need to adapt the gargantuan third act scrapped from the second film for the third film

>top tier cuties
For me, it's Ghost

That's probably because they suck.

they're fucking fine

I was actually incredibly happy during that moment when the snap gets reversed and Wasp shows up to help Ant-Man get the van working again. I love their chemistry and they're a lot of fun, even if their movies were kind of meh.

Here's hoping they do an offbeat Ant-Man sequel that leans more into the comedy tone. My pitch for Ant-Man and The Wasp was basically Jingle All the Way.

>Due to his involvement in Civil War, Ant-Man is on a no fly list
>His daughter really wanted some weird toy for Christmas (probably Captain America toy), but it's sold out everywhere
>Ant-Man finds one single toy for sale from a seller a couple states away
>Tries to order it online, but the guy won't return any of his calls or emails
>Feeling bad about how he almost went to jail forever and he doesn't want to fail his daughter again, he decides he's going to go across the country to get the toy
>Wasp joins him because there's some other overarching, more conventional sci fi threat she wants to investigate
>The two stories get tangled up with each other as they try to stop a bad guy/science phenomenon from ruining the world while trying to get Cassie a Captain America doll

I just want more Ant-Man, man.

>*cracks*
>*sips*
>"That's cute"

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Maybe the second one but the first Ant-Man movie is great

*only* couple

That's better than 90% of this place

he's just like Falcon except with a cooler rental suit

I cannot put into words how happy I was that the shitty brown van was almost ESSENTIAL to the biggest battle in the MCU to date.
Antbros really got some good fanservice desu.

And yes that idea is 10/10, Disney+ should do it for their service. Seems cheap enough
I just want an Ant-Man and Wasp tv series

Ant-Man is cool and Rudd can definitely carry him, but the movies for his hero are shit. Ant-Man needs the Winter Soldier/Ragnarok treatment.

he's also got a great talking-through-a-speaker voice

did wasp have any lines other than "we're on it, cap"? i can't remember..she appears in the femavengers scene sans-helmet, which makes no sense. i want more ant-man too but i fear what disney will do with the wasp. i feel like she will become the dominant hero, antman is already built up as some dependent loser, his daughter is now a teenager, i just feel like antman will become the ultimate cuck and his movies will become the wasp and cassie show

BASED ANT-CHADS ARE ON THE RISE

It looked like they were going to do something like that for Ant-man and The Wasp but the movie was as far from that as possible so I think they'll be fine.

He can't be that unpopular if they gave him and Wasp their own attraction at a Disney Park. Supposedly going to be interconnected with the existing Iron Man ride and new Spider-Man ride in California Adventure.

I can't believe they got Ryan Dunn to agree to this

Ant Man is one of the better solo movies. Rudd, Lilly, Douglass, the mexican dude, they're all great. It's a simple, genuinely comedic movie that doesn't rely on ill-timed quips. I'd put it in the top 5 MCU honestly, there's not many good ones.

how do you "interconnect" rides? are they just the same track with different aesthetics? or do you have to travel to multiple cities and raid them all to experience the full ride?

I'd make a tiny Ant-pepe but I have not the skill

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I think the stories of the rides connect with each other.
Very MCU-esque desu

it was cute how all their time travel outfits ended up looking like these costumes. shows how important he was to the whole thing

A N T S

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Why isn't there a New Jersey Adventure? What, doesn't anybody wanna go there?
You could have the Sewage Slingshot, the Gutter Slide, the 4D Ultra Chris Christie Experience.. possibilities are endless, man.

it's a meme

>leaves MTV and signs on disney
>fakes his death on twitter
>sends jackass crew into depressing spiral
>does his own stunts in endgame
how can one man be so based

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Based.

how does a theme park ride have a story?

I'll take an Ohio adventure if we're being honest

Dr. Strange is cooler and everything that happened in Infinity War and Endgame was all according to his keikaku. Ant-Man was just one piece in the puzzle.

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>the most important character gets shat on by the broader public and is misunderstood

He's like the personification of everything wrong with the mainstream

In the Disney World golden age, rides had insane amounts of work put into entire narratives. They were mini-adventures that you were a part of, not just a physical thrill ride.

BASED antbros

FACT: Antbros are the most powerful race in the world

For me, it's Punished Hawkeye.
A man denied his happy family.

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ant man is the only one that actually has any character and isnt just a bland slate for people to clap at like the rest of the marvel characters in the movies.
He had to train and wasnt born into his powers.
The suit constantly fucks up and isnt a perfect thing.
He actually cares about his kid and has an on screen relationship with her. Not, RONIN(why the name change?)/Hawkeye shown two scenes with his family and idk if they were even given fucking names.

>the berserk reference wasn't blatant enough
>they double down

Incredible.

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I don't know what it was in the comics but I like the backstory of hacking into a big corporation and giving the money they stole back to everyone too.

>Wright was connected to it. I'm really sad that never worked out.

Its literally his own fault. Fiege gave him so much freedom and let him do other projects over the film he was meant to be working on.

Then because it was delayed so fucking long and they had to make changes he refused. He caused the delays but now hes refusing to make changes necessary because of the delays he caused.

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they are literally gimp suits

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They had too. No reason for Stark to reinvent the wheel when Pym's suits are already the result of decades of refinement. All he did was make them from his nanotech have Friday add the Avengers colours to them.

Read what was going to be in Wright's script: it was dogshit.

That's a real shame. And I'm not knocking his character or his role in the other movies. Just his origin movie. I really think its below par. They could have done so much with it, and so many of the scenes were just soooo bad. It was one of the laziest heist plots I've seen since rogue one. Where the heist takes a backseat to the garbage and fighting.
That's, like, his whole schtick too.
He's a great burgler. This is gonna get roasted but I don't care, even a movie like "the real McCoy" is a better heist flick than antman. It's true too.
It's just a huge letdown.

I don't see it

Is that true? I've never seen it.
I have a hard time believing that.
Although his movies have been on the slide. Look at Paul. What a complete pile of shit, that movie is compared to his previous 3

what was going to be in Wright's script? I can't find it.

this. Peyton Reed is a vanilla director but acting like Wright was going to make the greatest movie of all time is pure reddit

I think they've hit a pretty good place for the dynamic. Wasp is the better fighter and science smarts. Ant-Man is the risk-taker and street smarts guy. A lot of the advancements that the other science characters in the Ant-Man movies make are usually based on Scott trying something crazy in a do or die moment that people tell him he can't or shouldn't do.

>Goes subatomic to save his daughter and manages to unshrink
>Goes gigantic to create a large enough distraction during airplane fight to engage pretty much all of Iron Man's team so Cap can get away
>has Wasp's mom imprinted into his brain and reaches out to Hank Pym even though Hank just shits on him for being a crazy idiot
>Dreams up crazy time travel ideas when everyone shits on him

They're a good duo because they compliment each other.

Comics Scott is a thief who stole Ant-man suit because her daughter was ill

spbp. It's such a shame that he's so good in the role but gets the most bland and uninspired movies.

>has by far the hottest girl of any Avenger

based

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was he planning on beating up the flu or what?

Nobody said that.
Go get laid.
He's shown that he is talented and can make a decent flick, though.
What we got was not good.
It may be the most bland phase 2 (3?) movie that was made.
It could have and should have been much better.

Edgar Wright's scripts are always shit. It's more about his creative film making.

he was gonna sell Pym's technology to pay for his daughter's treatment iirc

HE'S A REDDITOR

Villain name was nano warrior, Hope had a lesser,Janet only gets mentioned briefly, Scott had 8 team mates instead of 3, there was more focus on the love triangle between Scott, his ex wife and the police guy and Pym was way more jerkass.

And I'm not even saying the bones of the story or character were bad, either.
Just the actual, putting it all together.
The editing, the pacing, and the lazy payoffs, to an otherwise really good character hold the movie back so much.

I'm not even saying it had to be Wright to direct it, just anything other than the bland first movie that they threw together

so it was a proper oc donut steel character?

I'm gonna have to read it.
I don't know if those plot points mean a disaster. I see what you're saying about nano warrior and hope and Janet, but if it was filled in with a better heist, it might have been better

Computer load up celery man

>He's shown that he is talented and can make a decent flick, though.
True but his final script for Ant-man was ridiculous

>It may be the most bland phase 2 (3?) movie that was made.
That goes for Thor second film, first Antman is a good film desu
>It could have and should have been much better.
That is true

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I also have to say that I didnt watch the antman wasp sequel, because the first was disappointing.
Is it good? Better?

I mean the Janet thing was really mean because he didn't let Whedon use Wasp for the Avengers only to have her as a brief reference.

That's right, I never even watched the thor sequel.
I mean. I know everyone here, when they heard it announced, and even saw the preview, had an idea in their head about what it would be, and I bet you'd be hard pressed to find someone that said it delivered

If you didn't like the first one much less the second one

Lame plot but comfy characters interactions.

In the scene of things, that doesn't necessarily bother me. Its just bow the movie is presented. They could have kept key things out, changed things, for all I care. I just wanted, and still want, a really good Rudd heist movie.

It's awful, even worse than the first movie.

10-4 on that.
I feel like you can have more fun with his character (and still have a huge emotional component) more than any of the others. He still can be really well done.
Maybe they go for a 3rd, and really change it up, with a more narrow and focused plot.

Ant-Man movies have a real weird squad of characters set up right now if they do make a third one.

They've got the cantankerous grandpa Hank Pym.
They've got chill hippie grandma Janet (Pym?) Van Dyne.
They've got tough Hope Van Dyne mom.
They've got wacky Scott Lang dad.
And they've now got teenage Cassie daughter.
Also weird heist minority gang uncles and black ghost daughter.

I really hope they make a third movie that can work in the real big ensemble they have.

this. i felt the same way with Doctor Strange. Also, why did they change the reason behind Stephen's car crash to playing with his phone instead of drunk driving? It would teach a lot of kids to never to do that. Because if they showed a drunk person the movie would no longer be PG-13?

It made way more sense for Thanos, tbqh. He actually made a voluntary sacrifice.
Interesting to know the Russos are Berserk fans though. Have they even talked about that scene and the obvious reference?

Ant-Man and his mexican friend are better characters than 95% of the MCU

You know it's true

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The ensemble itself isn't what I'm worried about. I also don't think it needs too much plot baggage. They can use all of those people, they just need to give them something really interesting to do and make them do it in an interesting way.
I don't want it to be them saving the world, or even a city.
Just trying to stop something mildly bad from happening and maybe doing something a little antihero to get it done.
Like robbing a government research facility for some sort of tech or virus, while a bad crew is doing the same thing, unbeknownst to them that antman is trying to stop them.
And that's it.
Focused

Idk

thing is I thing they need to change the director. Peyton Reed is a bland ass director, he had gold in his hands for example when Scott's suit was malfunction. the amount of hijinks and shenanigans that can happen is limitless, but then he fucking wasted.
But unfortunately I think it's too late, Marvel is pushing that even their directors are one big happy family which I guess they are but Antman deserves better.

Its just because Paul rudd is amazing
Nothing else is that cool except him punching the worm

I agree, i liked that he rescued the first film production but he is no longer necessary.

I believe they only keep him because he does wonders with little budgets

I can't. Ant Man technology literally saved the universe after futurist tech, Asgardian magic and super science brute strength failed. The fact he isn't the new face of the MCU is bullshit

I remember being upset they weren’t using Hank Pym as the main character in Antman but Paul Rudd ended up as my favourite aswell

The spic guy carried his movies.

>upside down triangle build (wide shoulders, no hips, no ass)
>hottest
how about no