There people who legitimately believe infinity war is better than endgame

This is why it's better though. Infinity war was just regular boring capeshit and the only memorable moments of the film are the last 5 minutes.

Because it is.

there's nothing memorable about endgame

IW had balls to do something you'd never expect.
EG was fanservice to undo events from IW.

Contrarians.
They're both great though.

>IW had balls to do something you'd never expect.

Everyone expected the snap, though.

Wrong, both are mediocre at best

Endgame was better overall, but infinity wars had a better plot for obvious reasons and had much more action.

But not to kill recently pushed faggot heroes. More people expected Iron Man and the rest to die instead Black Pander or Spiderfaggot.

>IW had balls to do something you'd never expect.
except thanos is known for snapping out 50% of the galaxy so even people who dont read comics should have seen it coming

I think he meant end the movie with the heroes dying off. Pretty sure people went into depression after IW

Endgame felt like there was no real story to be told. It was just boring shit till the end that happened too fast.

Because it is. Infinity had a good villain. IfW Thanos was the main reason of its success
Endgame Thanos was no different from your episodic capeshit villain that gets defeated by the power of friendship and mary sues.

the final battle of endgame feels kinda cheapened a bit when you realize that they basically aren't even fighting the same dude from IW. endgame thanos doesn't even know who they are.

Aight so let me get this straight, IWfags are mad because endgame didnt have enough action? The action is literally the least interesting part of the movie. You couldn't pay attention for 2 hours without MUH ACTION?

It didn't have enough reason to exist.

The right person won in Infinity War.
Also it had a point and a theme, Endgame builds a point, builds a theme, yet refuses to resolve it only to make the heroes beat Thanos while not adressing the problems that 'created' Thanos in the first place. Returning the Infinity Stones to their proper timelines also means by the movie own admission how time travel works that Thanos wins in every timeline but the prime one.
Can the victory be even more hollow?

>The right person won in Infinity War.
only in a "might makes right" sense, his motivations were retarded

>his motivations were retarded
In universe, his fear was real and his solution worked. It would never work on real life or whatever, but even Cap comments on it on Endgame.
This is never adressed or challenged by anyone. They begrundly accept or change the topic whenever |Thanos brings these issues up.

>his solution worked
but gamora's entire planet died out afterwards

Wasn't it turned into a paradise and Gamora couldn't even contest this affirmation?

They're both some of the worst movies in the entire series and reasonably just both one big shitty movie that only serves to highlight that MCU is much better at smaller character stories but those don't make fifteen gazillion dollars I guess so here we are.

According to her Guardians of the Galaxy rapsheet, she's the last survivor of her species.

I reckon the idea is that Thanos' solution worked for the specific problem of overpopulation, but the trauma of the snap drove them into extinction anyway. But that's not Thanos' problem. They didn't die from starvation so it's still a win in his book.

>The right person won in Infinity War.

Pretty much. There was a theme, there was a narrative, and the faults of purposely flawed characters resulted in their reasonable defeat, while a character true to his morals and willing to sacrifice for them won. It's a way better ending than I expected from marvel, and I see no reason to watch further retcon.

>People watch superhero movies for action
Hmmm... really gets the noggin joggin

>people
Brainlets*

Everyone I talked to about Endgame agrees that is did not have to be that long and that it drags

No, endgame is a legit cash grab only

I would say that Thanos in IW is more relatable, in Endgame he's just sinister. That said I liked both.

Now every hulk fan I know on the other hand, all they're doing is bitching

>I would say that Thanos in IW is more relatable

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I honestly think endgame should have been longer to give more time for the final battle + wrap up.

literal npc

How is advocating for equal genocide onions?

Infinity War is a better standalone movie.

Endgame is a better Marvel movie.

There.

>Better pacing
>Better story
>Thanos is a legitimate threat

IW is more of a Guardians/Phase 3 team up movie, Endgame is more of an Avengers/Phase 1 call back movie.

They also killed IW Thanos tho

5 hour Infinity-Game cut when?

Infinity War did seem like it had more stakes. In Endgame, the heroes lost already. And the time travel didn't seem all that dangerous, because the heroes went further back in time to get more do-overs.

Endgame will not be remembered as the superior movie. The hype will die down, as it always does, and people will judge it as a movie and not a sendoff to the OG Avengers.

After he did what he set out to do and couldn't fight back.

>his fear was real

So literally every planet with any life whatsoever was "on the brink of total ecological collapse from lack of resources?" Bull fucking shit.

>solution worked

Temporarily; you may recall that for any given population of creatures there was a time when there were half as many. Killing half of all life, particularly in an indiscriminate manner, doesn't actually solve shit; with any sort of equilibrium thus disrupted the remaining life won't have to compete as fiercely for the same resources and will, in all likelihood, simply breed back to the same/near level that was so "problematic" in the first place. Thanos bought time, and not much of it; he didn't SOLVE a fucking thing. Unironically going around conquering everyone like he'd been doing and imposing regulation and education would have been more effective and enduring.

>never addressed or challenged by anyone

It's the same universe where the US government opts to nuke an unevacuated New York City (causing hundreds of billions of dollars in immediate damage plus trillions ongoing due to economic detriment, and millions of human losses) to contain a skirmish level "invasion" and then has the ten billion parsec radius 100% brass fucking BALLS to lecture the Avengers about collateral damage with casualties in the single digits and nobody calls bullshit on the staggering hypocrisy on display. Or literally everything regarding the Sokovia Accords, holy shit.