You can hate the movies, but you can't deny the mark on history these movies have made

You can hate the movies, but you can't deny the mark on history these movies have made.

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They not. They just coping the funfair form that already was made. The real history is The Dark Knight and Avatar or if we go further Jaws and Star Wars

what

Until Jaws and Star Wars the movies are supposed to be art

These films are completely irrelevant for cinema.

And that's why we talk about them so much on this board even if there's been months without one, we will never move on, and that's our prison.

What mark on history no one will care except for box office statistics

>zoomer teenager opinions on Yea Forums and reddit are relevant for cinema

who the fuck is talking about mark on cinema? these movies are world events

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Endgame is going to age like raw milk. Over 2/3 of the catalog was " made no sense!" for like 3 days after the release. Seemed like a rushed job.

yeah, it's massively negative

that doesn't change what I said

What is the world event? Millions wasted on marketing make anything "world event", even Tommy Wiseau movie

what mark on history? fuck off you retard
it won't be long before this trash is completely forgotten

>mfw people seriously think some japanese anime remake about earth bending defined cinema
It was awful you dummies.

I remember when someone say that exact phrase with James Cameron's avatar.

It's changed cinema forever. Studios will be copying the MCU model and be trying to recreate this success for decades to come. It's the Star Wars of this generation.

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Box office wise they've made an impact. Some of the most forgettable blockbusters of all time.

The movies themselves are forgotten 2 weeks after release, they are completely inert in their influence of cinema. Completely meaningless focus group products, equivalent to a popular clothing brand.

>these movies are world events

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and a majority of the people that saw it at the time has completely forgotten about it, your argument is not supportive at all

studios will copy whatever the fuck makes money until it stops making money, you're talking out of your ass

>retards on Yea Forums endlessly exchanging empty discourse through non-existent reasoning skills indicate that these films are important
At least i know where the fans' of these movies priorities are

>everyone is talking about it
>all the mcu heroes are household names
>somehow not a world event

It'll never stop making money though.

Yeah just like the aids epidemic in a way

Infinity was was a better movie I dont think end game made any kind of history

It's a sequel that rides the success of the OG albeit less successfully

Sound pretty typical yo me

>unironic wojak poster

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Loved them, just REALLY hope Cameron doesn't fuck up this next generation

Its exactly the same principle as fast food chains or clothing lines. Theyre not substantial in any way, they are merely the product of an imposed culture of hedonistic consumerism endorsed by multibillion dollar monopolistic corporations selling wares. Stop trying to justify these abominations as anything other than mere capitalist driven marketing instruments

yeah just like western's wouldn't stop making money in the 60's
how underage are you exactly?

How is that different to any popcorn action movie over the last few decades? Star Wars and Avatar are without substance as well.

>the mark
more like the shitstain

except westerns still get made, you stupid fucking faggot

Stop making them for 10 years, and they will totally disappear from the cultural zeitgeist.

Both OT star wars and avatar innovated filmmaking in significant regards, primarily in special effects. Those techniques developed were built upon and utilised throughout filmmaking to the present and we can continue to feel the ripple of change those films brought. Very ignorant of you to suggest they offered nothing in terms of advancement of film as a whole

and the amount of capeshit movies will dwindle in the same way western movies did, you stupid fucking faggot

I never said it was.

The only capeshit that is still fondly remembered are the raimi spiderman films since they had actual character and charm, not simply mass produced in a sterile factory

why did you even bother mentioning it then?

They'll forever leave a mark that can never be erased.

>in the past 10 years, there's been about 60ish capeshit
>same timespan, there's been about 100+ westerns

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Do you have any idea what sort of volume they were being churned out at? They were releasing about 13 per month at their peak.

completely irrelevant when the market share decreases. in the end it's about profits.

>backpedaling

not backpedalling. my point remains: this shit doesn't last forever, and it will hardly have the cultural impact that some people in this thread are claiming.

it already had its mark in history, just like westerns. just because they may not get made anymore in the future doesn't mean what they did now didn't happen.

again, what fucking mark? what are you on about m8

nothing like this has ever happened before. are you really that stupid?

>nothing like this has ever happened before
doesn't mean shit, plenty of things that hadn't been done before have not left a "mark". are you really that stupid? what is even your defintion of a "mark on history"? i am genuinely curious

Yeah, so did Obama. But that doesn't make it a good thing.

The mark Iron Man/Captain America/Thor has made on movies is Disney is able to extort movie theaters into showing Disney and only Disney. In addition to over saturating the marketplace and watering down brands.

The entire Marvel series was wrapped up using time travel to undo everything. I look forward to the All New, All Different Marvel Phase IV however.

Mainly because diversity is our strength.

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name something that garnered this much attention and didn't leave a mark on history

Your point is bullshit though. Westerns do remain, and the MCU has already made it's mark.

yes I can because I haven't watched a single one.

if they aren't important to my life why should they be to other people? I don't see any particular reason
>character has super powers and faces an enemy and saves the day
who gives a fuck. capeshit is retarded and even anime is better. stop reinventing the same homosexual tights costume characters over and over and over and invent something new

what would really happen if le chin man snapped his fingers and marvel movies disappeared? would cinematic history really be changed much? how are future movies going to be significantly influenced by capeshit? probably not at all. I bet Nolan's batman trilogy has more lasting impact than the entire MCU combined

Eew no.

They're literal mcdonalds factory produced formula abiding capeflicks. They're too scared to take risks. That's a no for me and the entirety of Yea Forums

>if they aren't important to my life why should they be to other people? I don't see any particular reason

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westerns are a relic of a certain decade just like capeshit will be a relic of a certain decade
"mark on history" has a whole different definition, dense fucker.

MCU movies are soulful movies, specially last one and that's what sticks to people heads. Screenshot this and reply me in 10 years.

none of MCU is making mark except for Ironman 1 which i have zero interest to look back and watch again. none of MCU movie have charisma such of Dark Knight, or something sound familiar to you like Starship Trooper, Robocop, or fucking Batman Phantasm of Mask.

which quickly forgotten within 1 month.

I love the movies and I completely agree with you that the mark on history that those movies have made is undeniable.

Does anyone actually understand the fucking tranny wojak meme, or find it funny?

no, none of the marvel characters are even half as iconic as chadzam alone

9/11 made a mark on history too

>start/popularize the whole "cinematic universe" meme
>thoroughly leave a mark in collective imagination of the moviegoing public
>define the aesthetics of all superhero movies after them
>irrelevant

And you think fast food chains HAVEN'T had an impact in the way people eat? Nobody's talking about them being good, but these movies undeniably had an impact and will be referenced from years on despite being mediocre as they are.

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They are going to be remembered about the same as old Power Rangers movies are remembered now

>mark
*scar

i hate that i shat my pants last night but...

i swear if i had a dollar for every (((HOLLYWOOD))) meme I saw on this godforsaken website I'd be able to buy the entirety of the MCU from Disney

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Superman
Not the best superhero movie ever but the most important.

Fun movies with an impressive continuity and consistency of quality.

These flicks will have the same mark on film as McDonald's had on food.

Disney has successfully turned film into a fast-food assembly-line where they can shit out barely watchable movies three times per year and still have the masses eat it up like drones.

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>Fun movies
If you're below the age of 12

>impressive continuity
The continuity is a joke. They claimed 70 people died during Avengers 1. An event that levelled all of Manhattan.

>consistency of quality
Yes consistently shit.

they'll be forgotten in 3 years max

cope