Why is it so hard for fantasy movies and tv-shows to reach LotR quality? (of acting/cgi/costumes/realism etc.)
Why is it so hard for fantasy movies and tv-shows to reach LotR quality? (of acting/cgi/costumes/realism etc.)
LOTR was one-off at a time where practical effects were still needed and CGI was shit.
It's easy to phone it in with CGI and green screens
The crews are different. People who work on TV are the ones who couldn't cut it in movies.
Content. Quantity of content is what matters. Who cares if this shit sucks, we made 14 of them and released them all at once. People are stupid enough to not know that what they are watching sucks, as long as they can keep watching and be sucked into some reality other than their own.
Me on the right
it's a combination of multiple things
>it was released before diversity and political correctness were in full swing
>minimal creative involvement of jewish people in the production of the film
>the people who were creating it actually loved the source material and weren't just phoning it in
They cared that the battle of helms deep made sense.
They cared that the battle of winterfell was spectacular.
Different approaches, one of which is complete garbage.
Pre production and passion. Movies tend to be cranked out quickly in order for the studio to keep costs down. Lord of the Rings had years of prep time to make sure all the details, sets, and costumes were just right. It's clear that Jackson and his crew utterly cherished Tolkien's world.
The Hobbit, because Del Toro's style was different, had all the stuff from pre-production dumped and everything had to be rushed. As a result the aesthetics of the world are a lot less believable and its clear at points that things were being made up as they go along.
Why are most of these giant vs tiny girl videos just them getting picked up or making out?
What else are they supposed to do, eat them?
because it's cute
Sauce
What is the source?
Jasmine Grey and generic white bitch
yes, eat them out. Also, the little one could ride on the back of the big one while slapping her ass.
>those tatts
disgusting
She cute
please tell me thats from porn
Based
>not having a fetish for trashy tatted girls
A tv show is guaranteed to look like ass compared to a film because the film crew spends several years on a few hours of runtime, while the tv crew spends a year on fifteen hours of runtime.
That's already a given, I meant literally eat as in stupid vore shit
I want my amazon waifu covered in tasteful scars not shitty biker trash tattoos
Disgusting trash tattoos
into the bin it goes
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Couldn't say, OP. Fuck knows the Lord of the Rings movies weren't great.
based
Good thing you’ll never have any girl talk to you. Go pay for sex incel
absolutely right desu
LOTR was a result of hard dedication of people. The pre-production of it begun years before the cameras rolled, which meant there was a lot of props and sets done a long time before any of it was put on film.
And while there were some idiotic changes done to the story, it still held up together to the end as there was genuine passion in it.
I want names
Hear me out.
Adult women have no souls though they once did.
Females are born with souls. Little girls have souls and they express their good nature all the time. They're loving and caring and beautiful. But at some point in teenage years when that little girl turns into a woman, her soul escapes her. The soul rises to heaven yet leaves behind the rotting corpse, the physical flesh that we perceive as adult women.
Women are not living beings, they're walking corpses without morality or any kind of complex thought. You can see this in their behaviour, in how they think and their interests. There is no soul in their body.
The sad reality is that females die before they hit adulthood, only having an incredibly brief life before leaving us and leaving nothing but their corpse to pester and haunt us.
Then explain my mom you pathetic incel. She's the kindest person I know.
>realism
Please don't throw that word around if you don't know the meaning of it, thank you.
So based off this image the battle of winterfell is vastly superior? No one is choosing left over right in this pic.
You haven't seen how much cum she's swallowed.
>The crews are different. People who work on TV are the ones who couldn't cut it in movies.
This is hilariously wrong, 90% of the original LOTR crew are now working in television as the pay is waaaaay fucking better.
Month long streak, ended like that
She ever kiss you with cum breath sweetie? She’s probably had more dicks in her than you could imagine.
Sure, working under some hack and with terrible deadlines.
I did pay for sex, paid a 6'4 girl a thousand bucks in vegas to smack me around and finish me off with reverse cowgirl. Shit was cash
Nice try, my mom is pure. Have sex.
battle for helms deep is boomer fantasy
battle for winterfell is a realistic struggle of good versus evil
>6'4
>girl
Sure, why not.
>the little one could ride on the back of the big one while slapping her ass
LotR fags are almost as bad as StarWarfags.
based
>paid a 6'4 girl a thousand bucks in vegas to smack me around
How did that go? Did she just hit you a little?
We smoked a jay after and it turned out she was a basketball player who couldn't make it on scholarship which I wish I knew going into it because I tell her to get aggressive and she legit sholder tosses me and starts ripping my pants off. Now I'm on the ground a little freaked out but in the back of my mind I'm thinking "do you really want to lose face in front of the prostitute you just hired to beat your ass?" Then I'm laughing and she's laughing a little too and tells me to stop it because she's concentrating.
It worked out.
Very nice
Do you think everyone should do this at some point, would you recommend it?
What? Paying for sex or getting tossed around by an amazon? Because I whole heartedly support enthusiastic bedroom sport but if you're going to pay for sex spend a little extra and don't go to one of those brothels that's basically a slave shop or get your dick sucked by a street walker. There's nothing wrong with monetizing some consensual fun but it's real easy to end up looking into a pair of dead fish eyes and either having a guilt cum or losing your boner altogether.
Based Goku
Tossed around, what is that like. How do you tell them how far they need to go? How do they pull it off?
artists prefer to work on TV shows now
- steady pay for years and years as opposed to 4-6 months on a random movie
- more creative freedom
- better pay
- better benefits (insurance etc.)
This should be a magic png.
if you mean winterfell is denser, tighter and overall superior in quality despite being shorter then i totally agree
money
Burns a hole in my, pocket
>tolkien fags love this
Fucking defend this nonsense
youtube.com
DUDE horses and fighting spirit lmao
>tfw you will never charge with Rohirrim and bring glory to Rohan.
The way I get it, the charge is a suicide attack to avoid being swarmed in the castle and buy some time before Gandalf comes, uses Goku's Solar Flare and blinds everyone for the Rohirrim to sweep through.
Realistically, they would have been killed almost istantly. Horses don't have that sort of stomping bonus. Maybe if they were small orcs, but uruks are fucking big.
With not much distance to gather speed, lack of armor on the horses and the bonus of charging in that tiny bridge, yeah. Like I said, a suicide attack that only works because Gandalf arrives in time.
Only works because of plot armor. They were completly surrounded, you tell me no one managed to get a hit in, not at the heroes, but even at the horses? They were going completly straight, long spears everywhere. The logical conclusion would have been them falling like 5m outside of the room they were hiding in.
>Jasmine Grey
nice
Name of the chick on the right? I want to go all Arya deus ex machina on her Night King if you catch my drift.
The only real problem is that the orcs stop attacking when Gandalf shows up in that hill for some reason. Not sure if I've read that they can feel him because he's a Maira and so they fear him or something, but whatever. It's still better than normal girl jumping 50 feet to kill the BBEG with a cheeky dagger one-hit trick.
Because some writers/novelists are actually good and some writers/novelists are hacks.
This ain't no generic white bitch, it's the 6ft tall queen Rocky Emerson. She has amazing feet and her long legs are so HOT btw
The situation is more comparable to the manlet throwing the ring in exactly at the moment needed to save the ass of everyone, especially Aragorn.
I mean, i liked all those battles, but you can't pretend an extraordinary logic in them or not expect some really convenient timing.
One was made by with love by someone who was a fan of the source material.
The other was made by two Jews who never touched a book in their lives.
>One was made by with love by someone who was a fan of the source material.
>The other was made by two Jews who never touched a book in their lives.
Nailed it.
>her long legs are so HOT
>she has them covered in tattoos
Nah
Are you a faggot? They had nothing to lose.
>"generic white" means having pornstar-attraciveness and being twice as tall as everyone else
Nice
>The situation is more comparable to the manlet throwing the ring in exactly at the moment needed
Not at all. The timing is comparable, but LOTR is a long story to get said manlet to throw the ring down. The bitch turning into an assassin only to unironically pull of a nothing personnel on the NK out of nowhere is a lot worse
The battle of the bastards was vastly worse. While unrealistic that none of the heroes died during the suicidal charge, most soldiers shy away from a horse that’s moving fast with dudes swinging metal on top of them, it’s instinctual to wanna get outta the way. Also desperate charge to buy time etc etc. it’s a good vs evil story. We all know what to expect. Got is just “le so subversive”
It was tiens solar flare. Goku is a notorious stealer of moves. Name a single one he made up himself I’ll wait
The one where he punches a guy and he summons a dragon? I don't remember anyone else using it
GT is not canon.
It's from a movie, not GT
This. These people don't give a shit.
based goku, just closed the tab without fapping
Same.
I wish white women were all as tall as me, maybe even a bit taller.
God I want a 6ft+ woman to force herself on me
Any kinos for this feel?
Is this the "God, I wish that were me" general?
6' v 5' 11
wtf
HHHNNNNNNNGGG
Why does he look as if he just fucked her?
>tfw 6'2
>tfw I'll never have a giant dominating gf
Wtf I love Dragonball now
Me watching from the window
Because lotr was meticulously planned years before it even started filming and the actors literally trained and preparee years for the roles
That shit just doesn't happen anymore Hollywood lost its talent and the production side of things is a absolute mess.
Look at how the hobbit trilogy was literally executed compared to lotr
>rushed production nobody had any time to do anything
>passed around by directors like a drugged whore
>ends up being a pile of shit.
Vs
>planned for over 5 years since mid 90s enters production In 1998 released 3 years later in 01 with the other 2 movies back to back meaning it was in the works for almost a decade
That shit just does not happen anymore and when it does its usually shit like got
High fantasy movie series are dead swars is dead Hollywood can't help itself
So Helms Deep is a disgusting tranny? I don't get it
what do you think you dream of when you get choked out by a fit chick ?
white features, user
Money issues.
She's not a tranny she's just a very tall woman
I should know, I jerked off to her after seeing this thread
need a name for the tall girl
why is there so few attractive tall girls in porn? shes like a unicorn in that regard
She's covered in disgusting tattoos so she might as well be a tranny. Tattoos are manly and gross
>mfw 6'10"
>weigh a fucking ton
>make love like an eagle
>but no giant gf
>LotR quality
are we counting the hobbit as well?
Why would you when The Hobbit is not the LOTR?
So fucking dumb
Would've been way cooler if they'd done testudo with those interlocking iron shields
Also how can pigs run under the weight of a knight in full plate? They're not destriers ffs
I really don't get this, why are they so hell bent to use cgi when actual sets with miniatures etc. look so much better?
why not just make love an eagle giant gf to yourself
>jumps in front of your shield wall
Flawless tactics
>screams in History Channel
>elven crack suicide squad
>Die fighting some manlet
>Respawn in paradise immediately
>You would've gone there anyways just 60 years later
Literally no fucks given.
Literally my fetish. Wish I could find this set.
Unironically I would tell you to have sex but I would feel sorry for the woman.
>first row of jumping elves clip through the floor
What was Hackson thinking
I'm going to post some information and what you guys decide to do with it is between you, your hand and god. I can't and won't completely spoon feed you guys but here are a few. How far down the rabbit hole you go is on you.
Alice Merchesi and Lauren Phillips
Phoenix Marie and Piper Perri
Alison Tyler Giant Lesbian
millions and millions of dollars
What did she mean by this?
>tfw 6'2 but almost all torso
>not tall enough to be tall
>actually appear shorter than people smaller than me
>too tall to have a girl bully me for being shorter than her
>7x6" still looks tiny on my frame
>hapa
>white nationalist
many such cases
>tfw 6'2 270lbs manlet
Why is this allowed
Confirmed /ourgirl/
It's possible yet unlikely that she likes PewDiePie and wants people to subscribe to his channel. However, we all know that everything has a deeper meaning which leads me to believe that her subscribe to PewDiePie message is her way of saying fuck muslims.
I would legit like source on pic
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Cost. Effort
Read the thread you stupid little incel.
I know what I want for Xmas! Gina be my MOMMY
Have sex
Thanks Goku I'm already doing pushups I don't know how I'm even replying to this
Buying time for the women and children to make for the caves, are you literally deaf?
wut
who could be attracted to a woman with tattoos?
Leaving the dream, buddy. Well done.
You are true autist for noticing that
Bravest horse in the fucking universe
goddamn what a good movie.
Okay I get you like shitty cheese, but how can you defend this shit.
youtu.be
The fucking disembodided voice played over a shaft of light with hymn like music playing over it it's absolute cheese to the highest degree. If they did even five percent of this in got you people would crucify it for it. Come that garbage to some actual fantasy kino youtube.com
Washington?
user, that's the same LotR video as before.
women
Source
There are shows that have surpassed LotR by comprehending one simple fact about medieval society. Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Tolkien, whom, as much as I admire him, I do quibble with. Lord of the Rings had a very medieval philosophy: that if the king was a good man, the land would prosper. We look at real history and it’s not that simple. Tolkien can say that Aragorn became king and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Tolkien doesn’t ask the question: What was Aragorn’s tax policy? Did he maintain a standing army? What did he do in times of flood and famine? And what about all these orcs? By the end of the war, Sauron is gone but all of the orcs aren’t gone – they’re in the mountains. Did Aragorn pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby orcs, in their little orc cradles?
tttttttthis
D&D are smooth brained
with a specific timecode for dumb-dumbs like you.
bullshit. they always complain how cgi is expensive
Honestly everything is CG now so almost nobody cares.
Do practical effects and movie audience would think it weird.
With capeshit actors are literally talking to themselves in front a green screen and they aren't even allowed to know the script. And it makes billions.
Cinema is dead.
Unironically because LOTR vs GOT is SOUL vs SOULLESS
wtf i love Stannis now
That dude loved every second. He did a pretty good job pretending to be recovering for so long lol. So damn hot.
horrible opinion
Imagine being imagined.
is that shopped or is that just one big girl
She's a big girl, he's a little guy, and years ago I saw a video of her stealing his cellphone and him trying and failing to get it back. It was cute.
Giantess vore is literally the #1 fetish so yes
you wish
same
You should be a director
God, I wish that the short girl on the right were me. Also, tips for the guy for hiding his boner on 0:34 and the girl for gently tapping his head when it was over. Again, I wish that were me.
Just fiddle her pussy,make her weak on the knees and dickslap her into the ground
god i wish that were me (on the left)
But why? Are there that many dudes who want a woman to dominate then? What kind of weak crap is that?
Shaft of light to signify the coming day, the music is used throughout the films, and Gandalf's voice isn't out of place. They've used narration before, and here it's not too on the nose because a lot happened between Gandalf telling Aragorn this and this moment. Great moment in a great movie.
Women can't continue to say that they're strong and empowered and independent and then say they don't want to be dommes. The hypocrisy won't last forever, it will end sooner rather than later.
Women have to make the choice now, either they actually are strong and powerful in which case we switch the roles as a species and they become the big dominant ones (the way the majority of animal species on the planet are), or they accept they are the subservient ones and they give up the false empowered narrative.
There does not exist a single species on the planet where the smaller sex is dominant over the bigger one and humans will never be an exception to this rule.
look, if you don't know shit about stuff, why do you make theories? You're the type of nigga sherlock holmes warned us about. You make the facts fit your theories instead of the theories fit the fact. I know exactly why "women lose their soul" and what it means, and how it is true but also not true and how it compares to males, but you don't hear me preaching about it because I haven't been so ignored that I feel the world is against me. I have made friends with girls at uni, and I have a gf, but I like the company of men more
god i wish that were me (on the right)
Women overall are smaller and have less muscle than men. Men are bigger and more aggressive to protect and conquer. Womens purpose is to give birth and raise kids; not be big and aggressive like female praying mantis
Humans and apes (with the exception of bonobos) all operate like this.
Viggo Mortensen has such a faggy voice...my god. I grew up with the German dub and did not expect this.
Yes, that's what I'm saying, which is why the female empowerment fantasies will never actually exist, and the hypocrisy will soon collapse the movement.
It is not possible for women to be strong and empowered while actually being weaker and subservient. Especially when they desire submission.
it isn't hard
in fact today it should be considered a thousandfold times easier
it's just there's no money to be made in showbusiness outside of money laundering and now-a-days they're laundering money at insane rates
the reason the battle of winterfell was so expensive had nothing to do with the shooting of the episode at all. I used to live and work in burbank (in a hospital) and would get to talk to a lot of people in the business. a good chunk of these "operating" cost are "consultants" who are just people siphoning money off of say Disney while doing absolutely no work. everyone who's paying these cost are the people making money off of it as a huge tax write off
you're basically taking millions of dollars that would be taxed at a high % and turning it into money that's taxed at an extremely low %
that's why CGI looks so much worse these days than any time beforehand even though technology has been progressed at insane rates. it's just the 300 million that goes into "cgi" is consulting firms and other forms of money laundering and then the final product is shipped off to india or china to be done for a fraction of the cost and everything that's left is "profit"
same here. true for lots of dubbed movies though.
Honest truth. Jews have low spatial IQ and have no clue how to arrange a battle
Why would you listen to the worst father in anime history?
I don't know. LotR isn't even that good though. It's a generic big action/adventure blockbuster with mostly generic cinematography and lots of bombastic music, dumb jokes, and bad CGI. It seems better than it is because most big movies nowadays are so horribly bad that even a mediocre movie seems good in comparison.
you know I just realized that maneuver would require incredible timing like absolutely ridiculous timing. also wouldnt the shrapnel from the arrows be just as dangerous?
you basically just made a hail of splinters all over your troops.
okay this is just lol
Blowing up a city street in CGI is less expensive than blowing it up in real life, friend
wtf I hate disney now
which heroes of might and magic cutscene is this
>defend one of the best moments from the best fantasy film ever made
you forgot terrible adaptation
>LotR isn't even that good though
That's about as objectively wrong as it's possible to be
Whole trilogy made 200mi more than Avatar.
So is Avatar the greatest movie of all times user? It made much more money in a single movie and more movies are on the way
How is that relevant to whether LotR is good or not? Popularity is not the same thing as quality.
That's not what the majority of that crop is about though.
The critical acclaim for the trilogy was and continues to be huge. Avatar won three Oscars and those were basically just for its visual spectacle rather than the strength of its storyline or acting.
He's a worse husband than he is a father. Not that he's a good dad or anything, his failure as a husband just overshadows any failings he has as a dad.
You can’t do forced perspective with models when you’re doing 3-d movies, so CGI becomes the only option.
the g stands for gets
> Unadjusted for inflation
Let's see if we adjust for inflation
Star Wars OT adjusted for inflation: $3,336,940,440
LOTR adjusted for inflation: $1,569,220,000
SW is 2.12 times bigger than LOTR in revenue.
> Critical acclaim
> Oscars
> The Green Book, The Golden Compass.
I rest my case
fuck you faggot i'll just zoom in
Lol
*LOTR is so good*
> make hobbits teach ents about the world
> make gandalf lesser than the witch-king
> transform Theoden into a vindictive pussy
> fetish for elijah wood whimpers
good luck saying that to Christopher Tolkien
kek
they even get defensive when you call them out
dont worry little guy, im sure the big hoss will read your script about that romantic comedy and give you your own solo movie to direct kek
The book is better (as is the case with literally every film adaptation). Doesn't mean the films aren't great films in their own right, despite their flaws.
Except for fight club, the book its not nearly as good as the movie
>Green Book
based Viggo, good film
>Golden Compass
Only won for its visual effects
The critical acclaim for LotR goes well beyond the Oscars. What was your point?
> Green Book
kinda of ok movie to watch in the afternoon
> Gold Compass
won visual effects when it was against Transformers
The point being that using Oscars to justify a movie quality isn't the best choice. I do know that LotR goes beyond the Oscars but really not that good
If fantasy isn't your thing, then I can understand why you might not like it that much.
lol it is. I understand why you like it though. I didnt like because I love the books so much. If I didnt read it I would love the movies
Total number of wins and nominations
Avatar: 73 and 148
LotR: 475 and 800
LotR is literally the most awarded film series ever.
i like the cut of your jib
Oh yeah the books are much better. No disputes there.
I suspect that if I'd read the books first then watched the films, then I might have a different opinion on the films. But I was about 8 when Return of the King came out, so I guess my love for the trilogy is also influenced by my childhood. I find that it's similar for a lot of people in my generation.
>LotR is literally the most awarded film series ever.
And GOT is the most awarded tv series ever (if you count the time its running)
that's not a really good argument
this (i gonna say but unironically but the based poster already beat me to it)
dumb phoneposter (even though your post is wholesome)
That is completely comprehensible.
I was around 15 and my uncle translated the books, so I him telling me things about LotR since I was around 7 or 8
well i was gonna thank you for the consideration but not anymore
To be fair, seasons 1-4 probably deserve it.
agreed 100%. it was the BEST series and the BEST adaption I've ever seen
Know shit. Movies were cheesy. Books were epic and based.
Not the user you responded to but you're a fucking idiot that can't count up to 3
for you
My wife used to hate LOTR. She only saw the movies, and she was around 17 at the time it came out. After six years I convinced her to read the books. Now she loves the books. She doesn't enjoy the movies, but she can see how excellent the production of LOTR is. From sets to armors, photography, to everything else.
I think that this is undebatable, the movies might have screwed up the adaptation on some things, but the production is fantastic
Because Tolkien did create fantasy as we know it today. Not only he did that, but he went to extensive lengths to create a realistic world.
He used to receive letters from botanists asking about the flora of Middle-earth, and he did answer those letters.
His attention to detail was incredible, pretty much everything is described.
When they started the movies not only they had all of that material but a legion of people who loved LOTR and wanted to take part.
There was this guy who specialized in writing high elfic and started sending letters to Peter Jackson, in the end, he did all of the manuscripts of the movie
>minimal involvement of jews
You know that jews were big in hollywood since it started right?
lesbian porn is hot for the first 2 minutes and then becomes a snorefest because penetration is not possible. and strap ons look fucking stupid too.
Weinsteins are literally executive producers of LotR you zoomer dumbfuck
m-mommy
Ok. so youre making big girl vs tiny girl porn. Why WHY would you put the tiny girl in heels to make her look bigger?
I feel everyone on production should get fired for putting her in heels.
The scene in question is about the tallette teaching the womanlet how to act ladylike and wear heels and punishing her when she fucks up.
Shame about those awful tats.
Omg that is exactly my fetish, brb gonna fap
nothing in this scene is real
Pure fucking CGI. Even the soldiers are copy-pasted
fuck hackson