Who was in the wrong in this scene, Michael or Kay?

Michael was wrong for marrying some child killing WASP, a good Sicilian girl like the one in that village would never do that

>in this scene
kay. murder is a sin
>overall
kay for racemixing

Michael...had a hard life

Well it's not like she was his first choice.
I think there was some other strategy to marrying her, that was never able to play out because she turned into such a cunt.

Have sex

He did it so his kids would look more white and thus have a chance at escaping certain prejudices

>so his kids would look more white
>and thus have a chance at escaping certain prejudices
Boy was THAT a shit long term strategy.
His grandkids would look white enough to get hit with modern anti-white prejudices.

Sometimes a man has to slap his bitch around.

>Michael is being driven through New York
>seeing black man lunge at police officers in an aggressive manner holding something in his hand
>cops shoot him
>"They Could Win"

Kay because all women are whores

He was the slut who ran around on her. She did what was right and aborted that demon spawn.

Men can't be sluts. It's a term strictly for women

Okay. He was a dishonorable, cad piece of shit then. She was right.

Agreed. But she's still wrong for killing a baby

I suppose she had better options. She could've run away long enough to put the baby up for adoption. I'm sure the jig would've been up if she ran and tried to raise the baby herself. If she managed to stay hidden long enough she could have pretended that it was a new lover's baby.

Or she could just stay with the husband who hasn't done shit to her or really cheated on her & just raise the kid there, instead of being a sanctimonious cunt.

where did pacino's acting skills go after the 70's? the intensity in this scene is fucking unreal

Scarface ruined him.
He realized he could be entirely miscast for the specific character being insisted on & act terribly with a laughably bad fucking accent & still make bank & not have it affect his career negatively at all.

You must be loyle to your capo, you faggots.

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>Sometimes a man has to slap his bitch around.

Is that why you slapped my brother around in public?

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How did he not cheat on her?

The only other chick he was ever with afaik was the bumpkin italian chick he married that blowed up real good. After hiding out in italy for months & facing an indefinite, potentially permanent stay there.

I thought he knew he'd eventually be back. And he got with her immediately iirc. He cheated.

>he got with her immediately
Of course, soon as he met her. Love at first sight.
>He cheated
Nah, technically he left Kay for her. If she hadn't gotten exploded Kay would probably never have heard from him again. But it was the 40's & not like he could just fucking text her.

Good points. Fuck you.

>be catholic
>get an abortion
who do you think?

Wait a minute. I've been deceived. The person I was talking too said he never cheated on her. I'm pretty sure she thought that he would be back, he thought he would be back, and yet he married her anyway. Then she got blowed up and he went back to his ex-bih and she was rightfully mad because he married some other bitch and had the audacity to try to come back to her. Not only that, but she'd found out that she was mobb deep. I don't blame her for aborting that demon spawn.

Name a better scene depicting suppressed anger bursting... I dare you

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>she'd found out that she was mobb deep
>as if it was a new revelation
She knew wtf was up when he came back. He flat out told her without telling her. She certainly knew full well what it meant before either of the first 2 kids was born. Killing the 3rd one over some shit you already knew because of some moralistic bullshit is just incredibly disingenuous & hypocritical.

And like I said, it was the 40's & he was in hiding in italy from the law & other maifa; he's not going to mail her a fucking breakup letter.

He did. She got blown up.

I'm glad she aborted the kid

Have kids ;)

not a healthy behavious,

HAVE THERAPY

And I'm glad so many Africans drown in their idiotic little makeshit rafts they try to cross the mediterranean in. We all have things that hit our happy spot.

It's a movie. Get help.

Kay, what a stupid question

of course its a movie
that doesnt make it healthy

unironically have therapy, not even memeing
like make an appointment this monday
keep me updated

are you mad?

Abortion is murder and blood sacrfice

manuged

about what?
wth are u talking about?

why are you typing like a nigger

Were we supposed to not like Michael, or think he was 'evil'? He didn't kill anybody who wouldn't have killed him.

About anything?

based schizo
also have sex please? k thx

Marrying outside of culture is a trainwreck in waiting.

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Just trying to help. Sorry.

>tfw I've seen part II, not once, but 3 times
>tfw I just realized that Hyman Roth was based on Meyer Lansky

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This thread really encapsulates why you people couldn't get a date even if you had the power of hypnotism and were above 4/10

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cute!

I TALKED to Planned parenthood

>You can only get pussy if you allow a woman to kill your unborn child without consulting you first, and then have her rub it in your face

Based mentally ill tranny.

>sheltered, virgin 7/10
>trad wife raised in the old country to be just that
>have to worry about her parent's approval more than hers
Anyone who chooses Kay over that is a fucking fool.

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Aren't Italians white?

First of all, you're all done, the evangelicals don't even have that kind of muscle anymore. Roe v. Wade hasn't been overturned, right? You're getting chased out of the White House by Kushner and Ivanka. What do you think is going on here? You think you can come into my state and shut down Planned Parenthood? I TALKED to Kavanaugh. I can make a deal with him and *still* have on-demand abortions!

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Michael is getting dragged in front of the fucking senate to answer for every scumbag crime in the book, and she knows he probably did it. On top of that, the house where you and your children sleep was shot to shit in an assassination attempt. There are some things, that even if you have a vague understanding of "the life"- you can't see coming, especially in the 1950s before everyone and their mother knew what mob culture was to a T. If my partner was a public enemy level murderer and my kids almost died in a hit, I'd get out.

Do you have a moral compass or are you just too absorbed by the women and abortions are ebil narrative that you can't smell your own farts?

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He was aborting mixed-race fetuses two at a time! Patients couldn't get a Pap smear in the office! What's wrong with you?!

Getting out is fine. Expecting no reaction when you rub the fact that you've just killed the unborn child of a deeply religious man is not. Which is what the thread is about. She had the right to leave. But she antagonized him and spat on him in the worst possible ways, and deserved to get slapped. I don't give a fuck about abortions.

Inb4 b-b-b-but you can't hit a woman.
I'll revert back to your argument. It was the 1950s. They could.

>your husband inherits his family's legacy & responsibility for its future after his brother gets assassinated & his father croaks
>you always knew him to want no part of it yet for some reason he feels he can't just dump his fucking family off on their own for some moralistic bullshit
Who's huffing their own farts around here?

>Aborting the baby of a mass murdering public enemy and telling him is wrong
>Not liking the senate investigating your hubby for murder is "moralistic bullshit" just because his family did it
>Thread about who was right or wrong posted in 2019 has to be judged in 1950 standards.

My old man never hit my gran. She never left him either. Granted, he was never a mob boss heartless enough to kill his brother. It's 100% ok to abort the child of a fucking psycho and it's ok to tell him when he expects everything to be hunky dory.

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People now don't "get" the whole patriarchal familial responsibility thing, even outside of the mafia thing. That was a huge part of what enabled people like Vito's positions; it was a natural extension of what those family heads were doing to the general surrounding community. Michael had the whole fucking family to look out for & practically a corporate enterprise to figure out how to disassemble while reweaving all of what had been built into "legitimate" enterprises to secure the future of. His mom, his sister, their extended families, all the people Vito still owed favors to, all of it.

No man I am Mediterranean, I've never seen anything that isn't a patriarchal family and I think it's alright. Still, my people weren't killing others for profit, destabilizing Cuba, and beating their wives. Michael is an evil guy, and even if your stance on abortion is not particularly friendly, Kay was right to get out and not heartless to tell him she got an abortion, even if it was unnecessary.

Everybody has tipping points.
I'd make the argument Kay's bullshit & the abortion is the reason Michael ultimately killed Fredo.
>heartless enough
After Fredo was the one who set up the hit attempt at the house you were kvetching about before? Especially after his wife has betrayed him, spits on him, and killed his kid?

>Michael is an evil guy
That's where our contention here is; he isn't. He didn't want to be involved in the shit yet saw he was the only one who could help at the time, and then the only one who could lead his family out of it. He had no real choice in the nature of the actual game itself, he had to play by its rules.

>No man I am Mediterranean

t. Nicholas Nassim Taleb

I dunno man, I don't buy the whole "born into the life, must stay in the life and then expand it" philosophy. There were tons of Italians who could have taken over. Either Michael bears responsibility for his actions, or we are just slaves to the lives we were born in.

I forgot about that desu, but still. Just exile your brother or never speak to him again. Killing a bro as stupid as Fredo isn't a good creed. Eye for an eye type thinking.

u got 7/8 letters right lmao

THE ONLY GOOD GODFATHER MOVIE IS THE FIRST GODFATHER MOVIE
THE SECOND ONE IS A CARBON COPY CASH GRAB BECAUSE COPPOLA WANTED TO FUND AMERICAN ZOETROPE
THE THIRD ONE IS A CASH GRAB BECAUSE COPPOLA FUCKED UP AMERICAN ZEOTROPE WITH HIS FUCKING MUSICAL FLOP AND HAD TO PAY OFF HIS DEBTS

>I don't buy the whole "born into the life, must stay in the life and then expand it" philosophy
It's one thing when it's just yourself & your own greed at the heart of it. But that's not what Michael was getting, he was inheriting the patriarchal leadership of his family as well as the mafia aspect. They were interwoven, he couldn't take one without the other, and Sonny got killed right after he'd involved himself helping end his father's immediate assassination threat.
Hagen could've probably done it, but culturally that wouldn't have flown & the other mafia families are going to tear yours apart either then, or if you refuse it, or just because. He intended to get them out but that was obviously foolish, neither is a mantle you can lay down.
There's a much larger aspect you seem to be either ignoring or missing.

Kay because she got an abortion. Shes going to hell.

They're not white white, the KKK used to lynch them too.

sounds like someone needs to see a donkey show

Fucking hell

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>oh la dee da Michael

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You banned my brother?

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He was postin' Sneed threads two at time!

Simpsons fans couldn't get a comfy thread on the board! Whatsamatta with you?

I'm unbanning my brother tomorrow, think of a price.

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The strategy was that to become head of a family he needed a family, a real man needs a wife and children etc... it’s spelled out many times in the movie, Michael married an Italian girl but she died and then when he came home he went back to kay but not out of love he did it out of duty being set up as his fathers successor he had to become a family man to be head of the “family”.

Kay for marrying a criminal wop

You goddamn shitposters really make me laugh. I do YOU a favor and moderate your boards, and then you try to push me out?

of all places I had to find top tier posts on page 8
I'm thankful

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>there are things that have been going on for years between men and women that will not change.
Is he right Yea Forums?

But in reality the mob didn't look at all as it is portrayed in The Godfather. It looks way more like the mob in Goodfellas, Noble honourable mob members are and have always been a meme

Johnny Ola told me about this place

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