How do they tie in the Xmen now?

The effects of the infinity stones has caused mutations in the human genome

I hope it's a really big smelly magical kaka fart from scarlet witch

I imagine they'll slowly build up the mutant hatred and give some bullshit reason like 'Well the Avengers were at least one team with the same goals, anyone can be a mutant though and use that power for their own gain'

that would fuck up everyones backstory so much

This is how I'd do it:

>End of Pheonix
>Gene grey is still alive
>Professor X gives her Cerebro
>Her powers are stronger ever since becoming Pheonix
>She realizes with Cerebro she can telepathically locate not only mutants but other super-powered beings across universes.
>She comes across Dr. Strange
>Strange realizes his mind is being read
>Looks at the Wong "We're not alone anymore"
>Cut to black

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This movie has nothing to do with the MCU. They're recasting everyone.

don't they have already a shitty version of the best one?

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please no. I want a new cast. I don't mind losing McAvoy to get someone else as Jean.

No they aren't. They still exist.
They killed off 2014 Thanos before he could even make the gauntlet, let alone destroy them.

yeah this seemed like a bit of a plothole really. Cap (supposedly) returns the stones, meaning that if everything else transpired normally, Dr. Strange should still have the Time Stone, Loki should have the Tesseract, the Collector whichever stone he had, etcera etcera. Also how the fuck would he have returned the Soul Stone?

Just have Scarlet witch do a reverse House of M & make mutants instead of ending them. She's already fucked up once.

>that Dwayne Johnson meeting at Marvel with Feige about potential casting
>tfw Dwayne Johnson is cast as the new Professor Xavier

Might seem like blasphemy but they don't have to use the Magneto and Xavier storyline. Maybe those two aren't in them at all. I could see them introducing mutant characters but not explicitly as X-Men.

I sure hope so, the only good X-Men cast is Huge Jackedman, McAvoy and Fasbender a d the first is gone anyway. I dount they'll be able to keep those two either

>how the fuck would he have returned the Soul Stone?
I seriously doubt Thanos was the first one to get it, it probably magics back to Red Skull somehow.

>They killed off 2014 Thanos before he could even make the gauntlet, let alone destroy them.
But 2018 Thanos destroyed the stones in the main timeline, and then they brought in 2014 Thanos after that. This isn't Back to the Future or Looper, the future doesn't snap into shape just because you change something in the past through time travel.

>This isn't Back to the Future or Looper, the future doesn't snap into shape just because you change something in the past through time travel
Please cite the omnibus of "MCU time travel rules & regulations" you have I seem to be lacking.

This is basic time travel shit mate, if past you gets killed off then there is no "future you", you're dead. Nothing Thanos did after 2014 happens anymore cause there's no Thanos.

Mutants always existed in low numbers. Professor x kept them secret, snap happens, magneto is pissed that Charles is a passive pussy, ends up going terrorist mode cue movie.

They might keep Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, but I don't see him interacting with the MCU characters much just due to tonal differences.

"So you mean Back to the Future's a bunch of bullshit?" - line from the movie.

Shame hes locked in Sony now

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Black Panther marries Storm. It's canon in the comics.

Its all explained in the movie you brainlet

How would the original timeline possibly progress if 2014 Thanos dies before even getting a single stone? The people who were around for everything post GotG1 will still remember it, but the events of the movies can't happen the same way in an overall sense.

Explain it then.

There is no "basic time travel shit" it's a made-up concept that every movie sets up its own rules about.

but Dark Phoenix looks good

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maybe if all the new kids besides Quicksilver didn't have the charisma of a blowup doll it could be good

It's a door so they could bring back the Black Widow
>soul for a soul
He gives back the stone and black widow is alive, there we go.
Also, would be funny to see the interaction between cap and red skull who for some reason is the guardian of that stone

Yet none of them ever really explain exactly how shit is actually supposed to work, what the rules are, etc; & at one point start citing typical tropes about avoiding past versions of yourself & shit.
Plus Cap broke the whole fucking timeline anyway by going back to Peggy.

That's probably how they'll get the XMen into it, whatever Mervel's version of "Crisis on Infinite Earths" is gets triggered by them fucking with the timeline.

>How would the original timeline possibly progress if 2014 Thanos dies before even getting a single stone?
That's what I'm telling you, it couldn't have. As soon as Nebula and Rhodey started tampering with the past of 2014, they created an alternate timeline where events play out differently. The one they're from still remains, and they can travel back to it, but Thanos from alt-2014 was able to come as well.

Hes also a nationalist and very anti-racemixing

>Also, would be funny to see the interaction between cap and red skull who for some reason is the guardian of that stone
I really, really badly wanted this, but I get why they sent Clint and Nat and the scenes in 1970 were actually really good so I can't complain. It isn't actually Hugo Weaving iirc as well.

>& at one point start citing typical tropes about avoiding past versions of yourself & shit.
Watch a movie more closely before trying to use lines from it to argue points. Scott tells Tony about that stuff, and Tony makes fun of him for thinking that's how time travel would work. Later Scott and Rhodey are talking about "Why don't we just kill baby Thanos" and Hulk patiently explains to them that paradoxes like that are logically impossible, they never would have gone back in time if Thanos was dead in his crib. Basically, the whole history of the MCU is set in stone, and their actions in the past can only create alternate "branch realities", not affect the future of their own reality.

every test screening has had shit reviews and the leaked plot looks like absolute shit

Do you think they'll retcon Wanda as a mutant? even more, as magneto's daughter?

But them killing 2014 thanks means Thanos never collects the stones which affects their own future

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I think they'll have Wanda's powers go berserk and inadvertently create mutants across the globe, sort of a reverse M-Day.

Probably, she's incredibly lame and boring in the MCU and they are apparently giving her own show on that new Disney Netflix thingy so unless they make her mutant and make her interesting somehow in that I dont see it working out

But he still collected the stones in their reality.

I think this upcoming phase will culminate in some sort of 'cosmic' event that leads to an in-universe reboot of everything, maybe utilizing some of the 'alternate time line' bs from endgame, or a result of loki getting away with the space stone.
After the reboot things will be slightly different (ie more woke) and mutations will be a common element to superpowers.

But even though he destroyed those stones, they collected a new set and subsequently placed them back into the timeline, a timeline that doesn't have Thanos anymore.

So is this how the multiverse gets created?

>Hes also a nationalist and very anti-racemixing
What if it turns out Storm is all or part Wakandan? She was initially discovered as a thief in Cairo, which is not terribly far away from Wakanda (borders Ethiopia, according to the movies).

Whoooa, cool it with the absolute dogshit ideas.

Take a lap.

not in this version

>they collected a new set and subsequently placed them back into the timeline
And then promptly returned them to exactly the points they found them in the branch realities. Did you even watch the movie?

But I thought the whole point Hulk was using to get Tilda on board with him taking the time stone was that by putting the stones back, they weren't fracturing the timeline.

>black panther and storm is actually grandgrandgrandgrandgrandgranddaughter incest
i dig it

they don't
xmas's entire premise is retarded and half the human population are "mutants"
seriously
they call their gods and superhumans "mutants" and want to enslave them, and somehow do
xmen's existence is so abysmal it's almost like playing 4th dimnesional chess to make avengers universal look less retarded

Has there EVER been a good show/movie/book/whatever that actually is improved when they introduce time travel.
It always just fucks things up even more.
>avengers
>x-men movies
>GoT
>terminator remakes(well that always had time travel but still)
>World of Warcraft which was the worst and most shameless example
Just on top of my had in recent years and it's always bad. Why do writers keep falling for it, no one can do it properly, unless it was already a time-travel based story with its own established rules

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I prefer the canon where Old Man Wolverine nursemaids her quadraplegic ass because weather control rekt her nervous system.

Yep. Supposedly returning the stone undoes the branch reality. How can that be possible? Fucking cosmic space magic. "The stones crate what you perceive as the flow of time" Huh? But in any case, they seem to hold the timeline stable while not allowing any changes to it.

they could do alternate realities merging into one. Like a reality where the avengers didn't exist (Cap, Ironman, etc didn't exist, Thor and the other celestial heroes didnt go to earth) and something woke the mutant gene in humans during the cold war or some shit.

nope just do F4 and doom. That's it

Star Trek. Introduced it in the first aired episode.

Scarlett witch IS a mutant

But the entire point of returning them is to keep a stable continuous timeline, like Hulk said to Baldy in the New York time heist. There aren't supposed to be branch realities if they did it right.

I thought the X-Men time travel stuff was the most creative I've seen recently and it largely avoids the pitfall of having to explain the tech behind it, because it's mainly Professor X doing one of his magic tricks. Also, the scene where Young Professor X in the past and Old Professor X in the future are in Wolverine's head at the same time and talk to each other was pure kino.

Well, doesn't really count then if it had time travel since the beginning

>every test screening has had shit reviews and the leaked plot looks like absolute shit
I just want a good X-men movie. Why is it so hard for them to make it work?

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X-men time travel was so fucking retarded that they just stopped giving a fuck and just ignored it at some point.

It was really just the concept, they didn't actually do any time travel shit afaik until Guardian of Forever. But ST4 is still one of the best.

Hilariously, Harry Potter has time travel that uses a single, simple time loop, sticks to that explanation, and then never messes with it again. Because time turners work on a simple stable time loop, you could never go back in time to kill Voldemort in his orphanage, because that wasn't part of the original timeline. It never breaks it's own rules, because it uses it sparingly enough for that to not happen.

That was until The Cursed Child fanfiction got approved by Rowling and fucked absolutely everything over.

Because nobody wants to do essentially straight adaptations. They've always got to change this shit or that shit around until whatever made the story work in the first place gets totally lost.

They didn't and the universe becomes unstable

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>millions of ways to face thanos and only one where they come out on top
no... no no no no no.
Strange just wanted to drag out the biggest, longest, most bullshit-filled blockbuster the MCU could've made.

Days of future past was pretty kino tbqhwyf

DOFP was great, but considering this is the last xmen movie (for a long time) they should have pulled out all the stops and make it amazing.

I mean, it wa alright initially but then they went full retard and retconned things like 2-3 times and in the end just said "fuck"it we might as well threat it like standalone movies

They didn't know at the time considering that there was new mutants coming out next year.

Unironically this

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unironically piss

>Believes this.
Kek

Fuck off FOX shills

>Rocket talks about how Earth was “ground zero” for the Infinity Stones’ energy wave
>Three snaps in 5 years on Earth
>Stones responsible for Wanda, Pietro, and Carol’s powers
>Consecutive snap radiation generates/awakens the mutant X-gene in some people
There you go. Simple as that

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Celestials.

this, it seems like the only logical choice, they can also say that mutants have always existed but they were extremely rare so hey can make Magneto, Porf. X and Wolverine work.

Pretty much IW/EG and the infinity stones fucking with the universe repeatedly will have caused mutants everywhere somehow, or something that happens in P4 will do it since I doubt they go straight over to X-Men with all those bad fox movies still being too recent

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