>Night King dies in an unexpected and organic way after an intense and relentless battle >A way that also ties-in several prophecies and pays off 6 seasons of training for Arya, an arc which was largely not utilized >Doesn't diminish Jon's character as he is still the heroic commander of a half dozen epic battles >Also the leader that united northmen and freed folk, the first to do so in 1000 years, as well as made peace with a foreign conqueror queen wielding dragons, unsullied legion and a dothraki horde, all things of nightmare for westerosi people >The man chosen to be "King of the North" >Even after all that, come to find out he's literally the blood heir and chosen one to sit upon the Iron Throne >"B-but he didn't get to stab the Ice Lich!" >"B-but!!!"
Jon Snow fighting the wights was essentially when Aragorn fought the dead men of Dunharrow, a side quest that adds to his heroism, but his real track is still being king.
>"But!!!! Wasting the Dothraki uhh!!"
The estimated number of undead north of the wall was 100,000. The estimated number of Dothraki was said to be 100,000. It's fair to assume a cavalry charge with enchanted fire weapons would be favorable if not completely obliterate the undead army, at least enough to draw out the Night King and 2v1 him with dragons as was the initial plan.
Inb4 a show casual says "Azor Ahai" prophecy needs a flaming sword! When the actual prophecy only mentions the initial warrior had Lightbringer but doesn't state specifically who they would be reborn as or in which form
fuck off, arya's '''training''' consisted of washing bodies, selling seafood and being hit with a broom for two months and this somehow gives her the ability to teleport or turn invisible at will? >b-but her real training was offscreen! not good enough. it was a shit ending.
Landon Richardson
You forget she was sent to assassinate various people, like the actors in that troupe, and also killed several others, and escaped to kill the the Freys
It's also established that she is more silent than a blood drop
ALL CITIZENS BE AWARE THAT LORD STANNIS BARATHEON OF DRAGONSTONE HAS COME TO KING'S LANDING BY ORDER OF KING ROBERT BARATHEON, DURING HIS RESIDENCE HERE, ALL MOCKERY OF RED KIKES AND THEIR ONE GOD SHALL BE KEPT TO AN APPROPRIATE MINIMUM
*ice shards melt and come together forming a single puddle* *puddle freezes and takes human shape again* >YOU DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD DISPOSE ME WITH A SINGLE BLOW DIDN'T YOU? *resurrects littlefinger* *zombie littlefinger stabs Arya in the stomach* >AND NOW THE GAME BEGINS
>litteral I clapped when it came on screen comment >"mentionedtheme is on musicplatform.com. It's awesome".exe
Josiah Wilson
>Cersei gives birth before the Battle for KL >the child is taken away to be safe >Cersei ends up losing the Throne and dies >Dany or whoever are now the king/queen of Westeros >can't find Cersei's baby >the baby is taken to Essos >the baby grows up wanting to take back the Throne >the cycle begins again Thoughts?
>dramatic music fades out, Night King walks into the Weirdwood garden where Bran sits alone >"So, this is how you'll be remembered - a crippled little cuervo." >Night King takes out his sword >"Last chance to look at me, Brandon." >Night King prepares to stab Bran >suddenly, Bran looks at the Night King with a smile on his face >he begins frantically pushing a button on his wheelchair >Night King looks visibly disturbed >camera pans to a wildfire bomb placed under Bran's wheelchair >"AAAGH-" >*BOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!* >later, in King's Landing >"Your Grace, we've received a letter from the North. There's been an explosion in Winterfell! The Night King is dead!" >"Your Grace, what happened?" >Cersei smiles >"I've won." >credits roll
Okay, so what's stopping her from immediately going south and killing all of Jon/Dany's enemies? Why bother with a plot when Arya can assassinate literally anyone with ease?
Cooper Bell
WEEBSHIT IS IT? IS THAT HOW YOU SPEAK TO YOUR KING?
friendly reminder that both the piano piece from S6E10 and S8E3 are overrated trash
here's the top 3 music from GoT: 1. entire ending of S4E10, starting with Tywin's death and ending with the credits 2. dany saving jon in S7E6 3. jon's birthmother reveal
noone is calling her a Mary Sue, noone doubts her ability to kill. it's the complete shitting on 7 seasons of storytelling and prophecies people are mad about. I honestly don't get how someone who is clearly braindead can use a keyboard and figure out how to post on twitter...
Gavin Young
Are you surprised?
Landon Nelson
You know I love all my boys but let’s get Barristan in there please
Luke Butler
20 years later when everyone has forgotten this show people will just think you're lazy. Can't decide if those O's looks more like hamburgers or alien vaginas from the thumbnail.
Ayden Watson
Do motherfuckers really remember generic battle music #49 or piano mellody #107 from 50 episodes ago or are you just larping?
No it doesn't, a cavalry charge into complete darkness is stupid. To emphasize how dumb it was, one of the lead riders even gets surprised when he unexpectedly runs into the wights. The cavalry charge was purely for spectacle and to eliminate the Dothraki so that there could be tension in later episodes when battling for the Iron Throne
Asher Sanders
>We open with cavalry on the front line! >Wh-Wh >Do you know what cavalry is for!
Yes. It is used for charging against open-field infantrymen. Which is exactly how they used it.
What would you prefer, hunching the cavalry behind the pikemen and then getting the entire core killed and possibly trampled?
The only time a cavalry charge doesn't make sense is when you are facing pikemen, which obviously they were not.
literal survival situations for 4 seasons, then kung fu training for 2, then on-the-job assassinations for 1.
Evan Walker
Myranda best girl
Brody Roberts
being silent doesn't stop people from seeing you, the night king was completely surrounded by Undead and WW's yet arya jumped at him, unless she can fly, teleport or turn invisible the night kings death makes 0 sense.
Easton Davis
For me, it's the heroic version of the Lannister theme for redemption arc Jamie scenes.
The main purpose of a cavalry charge is to break morale. If your enemy is incapable of feeling fear then their formation will hold, and your riders will be dragged from their horses
Jack Howard
they were overconfident from their reputation and fire swords, and they probably figured it was just a bunch of shambling corpses instead of a supernaturally enhanced tidal wave of death.
Aiden Watson
*fags
Justin Jones
>Doesn't diminish Jon's character as he is still the heroic commander of a half dozen epic battles >Also the leader that united northmen and freed folk, the first to do so in 1000 years, as well as made peace with a foreign conqueror queen wielding dragons, unsullied legion and a dothraki horde, all things of nightmare for westerosi people Didn't he have them all killed with his retarded battle plan tho?
David Sanchez
always nice when someone posts this.
generic arpegiated chords. I've heard much, much better music in free-to-play video games.
Henry Lewis
FAT IS IT? YOU'RE A DUMB WHORE WITH A FAT ARSE NED.
I think Light of the Seven is definitely overrated, but it's still very good and not "trash". The Night King on the other hand, that's mediocre. I think the scenes themselves also play a part. Light of the Seven feels brilliantly synced to the Sept explosion buildup, but The Night King is just a piano piece playing over a dragged out montage with little care put into it.
I absolutely agree that You Are Not My Son and The Children are fucking brilliant pieces, though. I'm curious, when you say "Jon's birthmother reveal" do you mean The Tower from S06E10 or Truth from S07E07? Because I think the latter is possibly one of the best pieces in the whole show, but I'm pretty meh on the former, even if it suited the editing brilliantly.
>2. dany saving jon in S7E6 This I don't agree with though. The scene itself is very well scored and goes through like 5 different leitmotifs but none of them are new and I wouldn't call the blend particularly impressive.
Asher Ortiz
Viserys has the most undeserved death by far. Stannis was defeated rightfully, and Littlefinger got killed by his own stupidity. Viserys not only did not deserve it, but he got arguably the worst death in the entire series. Anyone voting for Stannis is a fucking tool.
Jeremiah Torres
>Comparing this mary sue goblin to Tony Stark
Gavin Flores
Have sex sweaty
Ryan Fisher
dubs confirmed.
Alexander Phillips
D&D know their target audience. People who only care about the visuals and being "subverted"
>Ned dies as a consequence of his actions, due to his fleshed-out character traits and environment >Night King dies because he was doing a mute hollywood villain monologue and the memegoblin can teleport bravo
Isaac Long
I was unaware the catspaw also had dragonglass handle
>complain about Ramin >post examples of his work as good >it's just reorchestrations of his normal themes
every fucking time. do you people not listen to actual classical music?
Juan Diaz
>anons still hyped for CLEGANEBOWL >when the Mountain is essentially a meat puppet who can't speak or express anything and the Hound has become a complete pussy ?????
Robert Scott
>Jon Snow fighting the wights was essentially when Aragorn fought the dead men of Dunharrow, I remember when the transparent turncoats turned into ice cubes as well.
Benjamin Green
They're just delusional at this point.
Caleb Roberts
I guess that explains why she was so retarded in season 2
Landon Edwards
Literally everyone besides Dany and Euron. This show has had god-tier casting if nothing else.
Gabriel Davis
No.
The mountain and hound were supposed to be two of the most unstoppable warriors in the 7 kingdoms. Now anyone with a little bit of oyster sales experience can do backflips and teleport.
It's not an unstoppable force meets immovable object thing anymore, it's just two e b i l w h i t e males fighting. D&D wouldn't let this be cool and you should know that already.
Chase Martin
Normie poll results >Theon is uglier than Bronn >Arya is cute >no Viserys
>People who only care about the visuals funny because the visuals were ass last episode too normies love being fed shit then justifying it
Evan Thomas
Cleganebowl was always going to involve an undead Mountain though. And it's not that he can't speak, Qyburn said he made a vow of silence. He could always break it in the heat of the moment.
Juan Reyes
>Arya post S3 >god-tier casting if nothing else
Gabriel Foster
light of the seven was great but the one in 8x03 was soap opera tier
>Night King dies in an unexpected and organic way after an intense and relentless battle
"ITS UNEXPECTED SO ITS GOOD LIKE ALL OF GOT" No, if your brain was cut off and you just watched on autopilot, all the horrific moments would have been unexpected. But if you rewatch all the things that lead to things like the red wedding you go "oooooh, these had direct implications!" Arya had absolutely fuck all relation with the NK, she wasnt even certain they were real. Also, organic?
The night king is fast enough to react to a flying arya, spin around and catch her on a dime. But not to throw her or catch the blade she drops despite just watching it fall into her hand? How about the fact the white walkers sheer presence makes the air around so cold its hard to fucking breath. He gripped her by her neck. Skin to skin contact. she should have been frozen solid in a second.
>A way that also ties-in several prophecies and pays off 6 seasons of training for Arya, an arc which was largely not utilized
SIX seasons? Try one, mid way through season five and a little bit of six. She wasnt even stealthy enough for retarded wight zombies, Which could hear blood drop. Yet she can travel in the snow silently? What training could be done for silent steps in snow when the faceless men training was done in fucking bravos, a constant Mediterranean climate. In fact, we never see stealth training only ever dueling, jaqen uses brutal methods to kill and theyre always discovered. Fuck, he was actually imprisoned and caught by mere normal lannister foot soldiers. Silent assassins my dick.
>Doesn't diminish Jon's character as he is still the heroic commander of a half dozen epic battles Yes, all this effort, character development and RESURRECTION for what? to scream at a zombie dragon. "muh to unite the north to fight the WW!" The white walkers wouldnt even be IN the north if it werent for jon. He stays dead he doesnt meet danny, danny doesnt go north, NK doesnt get dragon.
Liam King
The charge was stupid but it did look nice. A lot of the shit was done for dramatic effect, not really plot. With that said it also made sense for the Dothraki to die in the battle as to not affect the ending, just sucks they went out in such a stupid way.
Nathaniel Mitchell
Fuck off Ben
Cooper Roberts
Even though the people commanding them should and do know better? Jon has first hand experience with the undead on multiple occasions. If you are suggesting that the Dothraki are retards without a shred of discipline then I would say they should have shown that a bit more in previous seasons
Josiah Hall
>do you people not listen to actual classical music? no because i'm not an autistic neckbeard virgin
Samuel Mitchell
Is that real? What a stupid faggot.
Lucas Richardson
Scoring a TV series or film is pretty much all about rephrasing your leitmotifs to fit the tone of the scene. Arguing that You Are No Son of Mine is the same piece as "Main Theme" just because they share a melody is fucking retarded.
Grayson Myers
>black slave girl more beautiful than Jaime and Jon
Yeah, you just fell into a trap. The game of thrones wiki and official numbers show that it was 10,000 dothraki riders. The visuals even confirmed that considering how big the wight horde is compared to the dothraki.
So the charge being retarded and you being a pathetic bugman confirmed.
Austin Foster
sure thing incel
Luis Gutierrez
The Night Kuck needs to take some hand-to-hand combat lessons from Riddick.
These faggots would have a point IF Arya's assassin training was actually you know, fucking assassin training? She spent most of her time sweeping and cleaning bodies and being blind and getting beaten by the Waifu with a stick. And all of the sudden just because she barely manages to come back alive after the Waif tries to kill her, she suddenly has all these badass powers. They are justifying bad writing this season with bad writing from the previous seasons. This whole thing just has no payoff whatsoever and isn't justified in the slightest.
Luke Green
Since I'm a moron when it comes to warfare tactics, what would be the proper thing to do with the Dothraki?
Is it possible to root for anyone but Dany after last episode? I used to not give a single fuck about her but holy fuck everything they pulled completely validated everything she ever did, she should've just ignored the retard Jon and went straight for King's Landing, everything would've turned out 100x better. She's literally the only one left alive that deserves a shred of happiness and success, which of course means she won't get any.
The scenes I'm thinking of that are simply there for fans to ooh and aah over is when the Dothraki lights go out and the Night King tanks dragon fire
Gabriel Jackson
If you've actually played any Total War game (other than maybe Empire) on a real difficulty, you'll know that you use cavalry for hitting the flanks and rear of the enemy line and harassing their skirmishers. You don't charge the front of the enemy line with it. Also, you didn't address the trebuchets being placed outside the walls and in front of the lines.
Nathaniel Cox
Mine was some Tarly boy at the battle of Summerhall. My horse took an arrow, so I was on foot, slogging through the mud. He came running at me, this dumb high-born lad, thinking he could end the rebellion with a single swing of his sword I knocked him down with a hammer, Gods, I was strong then. Caved in his breastplate. Probably shattered every rib he had. Stood over him, hammer in the air. Right before I brought it down he shouted ‘Wait! Wait!’.
AZOR ARYA YOU FUCKING SEXIST BIGOTS YAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSS >muh prophecy ARYA HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT TAKING ON DEATH AND BEATING IT CRY MORE ABOUT A WOMAN DOING A MAN'S "JOB" BETTER THAN HE EVER COULD INCELS
They never tell you how they all shit themselves. They don’t put that part in the songs. Stupid boy. Now the Tarlys bend the knee like everyone else. He could have lingered on the edge of the battle with all the smart boys and today his wife would be making him miserable, his son would be ingrates, and he’d be waking three times in the night to piss into a bowl! WINE!
Julian White
>deserves a shred of happiness and success The only thing Targs deserve is death
fuck no I want cersei and jack sparrow to kill all the dumb fuckers on the good side now
Joshua Perry
what's the music that plays when Dany does something cool/evil?
Nathan Wilson
I guess what I'm saying is that I'm surprised you register them separately. I have a Sibelius file with all the themes from seasons 1&2 and honestly Ramin's themes are very good, but my brain just goes "oh he's doing that again" every time he reuses them which is constantly.
last time I remember actually registering the music was the kino ending of Hardhome.
yeah, I listen to Bruckner for fun, so I'm definitely not the target audience for a TV show score.
Imagine how fucking deadly would Ramsey be if he split his entire army into groups of 20 man The world would be flayed, living. i miss this nigger like you wouldnt believe, did his actor star in some kino after got?
>high sparrow >remotely evil >Cersei not pure evil after killing thousands of innocents >Jaime purely neutral >Stannis evil Your chart is shit and you should get fucked by a boar.
Tyler Russell
It triggered me when I was first watching, but Jon completely deserves it in retrospect, his manlet rage got hundreds of thousands of people needlessly killed, if he just ignored the White Walkers and let the Wall deal with them everything would've been fine
Eli Johnson
>qyburn >evil
Robert Rodriguez
>High Sparrow >Evil
Anthony Price
First season of Misfits was pre-GoT but he's pretty great in it
Big difference between as assassin and a warrior. An assassin needs to be within distance of a target to be effective. Usually while a battle is happening.
Arya most likely won't fight the entire golden company and the Mountain and kill Cersei. They still need to win a battle.
Michael Williams
I looked for you on the Trident.
Robert Gray
>Lands her figurative child in the middle of an undead horde "Better just sit here for a while and not do anything so Jorah can save me"
I really liked his character in that. Weird little virgin mutant
Jeremiah Morgan
fuck no it doesnt. why the hell would u send the calvary to fight out side when ur fighting defensively? why the hell would u not keep the calvary back to pull a flank on these fuckers when they rush the castle? why not make a moat? considering that losing men simply adds numbers to their side, why in the hell would u pull such a dumb fuck maneuver?
Thomas Murphy
Arya with an anime move Don't you know she's the badass action movie heroine now?
Lucas Harris
GIANT'S MILK
Justin Gomez
Nothing was shit on
Unless you wanted the undead to win and the show to become the Walking Dead: Fantasy Edition
You act as though they chose what time the battle was initiated
Luke Taylor
>sh-she's not a Mary Sue p-please don't tell me to have sex again ;__; She absolutely is a Mary Sue. She had no business killing the NK. The character and her actress are both trash.
FUCK ARYA FUCK COLDSTEEL FUCK DABID AND FUCK ROASTIES
Mason Diaz
She was there to save Jon, both generally, and in that moment, Jorah's death is entirely Jon's fault.
Zachary Hall
>and pays off 6 seasons of training for Arya, That was already paid off with Frey.
Joshua Gray
take all of my Yea Forums points!
Jace Scott
I would a Karsi desu
Isaac Barnes
Why are the bandwagoning looper fucks leaving Plebbit?
Samuel James
cavalry should always be used as a hammer you absolute pleb
Juan Morris
Spoiler tags please! You’d get downvoted on other sites for not doing it.
Adam Phillips
>(((dornish merchants))) stannis had a hard life
Chase Gomez
>She had no business killing the NK. But that's the good part, her character had nothing to do with the winter plot and that made it extra surprising!
Did Stannis become a fire worshipper only because Robert died or would he convert even if no one suspected Cersei's cheating?
Christopher Foster
Jon was literally held back like a child being held back by an adults arm.
Ian Johnson
t.retard u fucking moron, u use calvary to flank especially when ur under siege. U definitely dont fucking place catapults outside of ur castle walls either. I would place the calvary away from the main line, the side, or even behind the castle so they can pull a goddamn flank.
Lincoln Ross
I would let Karsi sit on my face and then let her bite my dick off after she became walkin dead
Nicholas Barnes
Obviously they are fighting an unknown enemy they do not know how effectively the charge will be, but a charge against open-field infantrymen with no archers is the most to make.
Jaxon Walker
Best tracks: >The Children >Spoils of War Part 2 >The Winds of Winter >Pay the Iron Price >The Tower >The Army of the Dead
Just kill their leaders when they're not right next to their army. Why would Arya have any trouble sneaking up on them?
Jayden Russell
>on other sites Go back ffs
Ian Williams
>Melly at the top Based
>Jorah that low >Jaime below Loras >Catelyn that high >Dany not evil >Robb that low Cringe
Julian Carter
Realistically in a situation like that where you're so up numbered everyone would be on the walls, nobody outside
Blake Powell
why do 34 year old women post their facebook shit here? we're not the same type of retards you're used to interacting with, you can't just come in here posting heavily opinionated outright lies and expect anyone to take you seriously
David Walker
the Arya thing would only be acceptable if before the scene we could think "yea I could see Arya doing that", that is, if someone came out and spoiled what was going to happen, we could picture it as a possibility, since it had already been stablished that Arya could stealth and do a 20 meter (?) jump from stealth. But it never was. In the very same episode we saw she trying very hard to stealth by a couple of mindless zombies.
Gabriel Watson
Have them in reserve and use them to flank the army of the dead when they're pinned on the unsullies phalanx that was non-existent because retarded writing.
Daniel Morgan
>trusting a fucking wiki
Liam Long
Because it was genuinely a great episode and Yea Forums contrarians cry every season about something stupid but still watch the show
I remember when Ned died and everyone here said DROPPED they will never watch another episode
Here we are many years later
Ian Cruz
>Iwan Rheon >Jonathan Pryce >Owen Teale Why are the best GoT actors all Welsh lads?
Nathan Stewart
What is it about this guy that pisses off normalfags so much?
Damage control. Your shitty show jumped the shark. Every pleb knows it shit now they just wanna pretend they like it because its popular. Now I can have total disdain for plebs if I see a gag talking about GOT i roll my eyes say it's stupid and I only got through 4 seasons before it became too dumb I'll tell the pleb to try watching Supernatural or SG1 which are better plebshit shows and the plebs will feel so fuxking bac because they know it's true GOT was never a special or smart show it was shit and they will feel bad even if they dont admit it
>Yfw EP6 is just Gendry domesticating Arya so she will become his lady and finally fulfill his fathers wish of joining the houses of Baratheon and Stark
literally the reason I was excited to see him in got
Luis Walker
it happens before the start of the first Davos POV chapter. the implication is that Melly worked on converting Selyse first and managed to persuade Stan to pay attention to her by predicting Robert's death.
Andrew Reed
>and organic way Naruto teleportation included >6 seasons of training 1 season of washing bodies, 2 episodes of fighting with a stick, that's all >heroic commander of a half dozen epic battles partake in 3 battles, is saved by other people after failing in each
John Rogers
But that's the point of leitmotifs. Personally, I'd argue that Djawadi's use of them has much improved over the seasons. In the first few it came down to play X theme when X character has epic scene, with generic strings unrelated to a particular motif being used during pretty much all else. But in the later season's he's been doing a good job at developing themes gradually over character arcs. I'm not fond of the Dany/Jon romance, but if you watch Season 7 and listen out for the "Truth" melody, it plays in disjointed and incomplete variations throughout the series as their relationship grows, before eventually playing in full in the finale during their sex scene where Jon's parentage is revealed formally. You can look at that as just "oh there goes raimin using that song again" or you can look at as an initially unfinished piece of music developing into a full piece that is revealed at the crux of their relationship, at least for that series. He did a similar thing in Episodes 6/7 of Season 7 and Episode 3 of Season 8 with the development and denouement of the new Army of the Dead theme. It's not an easy-on-the-ears piece like Truth, but it's still good scoring.
Andrew Roberts
I seriously would think the calvary is faster than the white walkers. I would keep the calvary outside, have em constantly annoying those zombies and do laps around the fucking castle for all i care. Or i dunno, open up with the dragons?
Thomas Carter
Religious zeal confuses them. They cannot understand unquestioning faith in something greater.
>Jon and Dany will kill each other and Gendry and Arya will sit on the throne and rule
Ian Mitchell
Dothraki don't flank, but even if they did, I can't imagine they would be effective against a swarm that size.
Connor Hernandez
>an unknown enemy They know the army WAS 100,000 strong before they crossed the wall. They know the army is even bigger now chewing up everyone between the wall and last hearth. They know they fight in swarms They know the army fights ferciously without fear, without threat of getting tired and they never stop. They know the army had multiple giants, mammoths and a fucking dragon But please continue by all means.
Landon Flores
You
John Martin
>When his little sister brought an army to rescue him? You mean that time he charged an entire fucking army alone like fucking Aragorn because he believed in doing what is right? Yes I remember that.
I dreamed of giving up the crown. You know what stopped me? The thought of Gendry in a smithy, with some disgusting little goblina bouncing on his dick. My son. How could I have made a son like that, Ned?
They held the field long enough to build a big ring of flammable material around one of the largest castles in setting. Maybe they could have put out some torches.
Even if the darkness is something that couldn't have been prevented using light cavalry like heavy cavalry is a bad idea and an even worse idea when your enemy cannot feel fear and thus will not have their formation/horde broken as people run away
Kayden Perry
who do you think is more autistic, people who discuss medieval battle tactics or sonic fans?
Benjamin Butler
>phoneposters aren't absolutely fucking retar-
Samuel Lewis
is this real or some kind of porn?
Nathaniel Rivera
u
James Clark
It's pitch black in the middle of winter, the horses would all die from breaking their legs
Chase Lee
>you'll regret it in 20 years because of what people think of you imagine being this much of a beta
A flank is only useful if it's a single line pike light infantry, this is a horde of mid-heavy calavry that also double as infantrymen.
In all honestly the only thing unrealistic is that the horde cavalry should've done far more damage and most likely been fighting for a few hours until daybreak.
Jaxson Miller
the high sparrow was a bitchass nigga who got got
Adrian Gonzalez
>The estimated number of undead north of the wall was 100,000. >The estimated number of Dothraki was said to be 100,000. Proof?
This actually explains a whole lot about her weird and awful acting style in seasons 2 and 3
She was pretty good in seasons 1 and 4. 5 onwards are unsalvageable because of terrible writing, not even Dillane could convince me of his character in the shit show GoT has become
I've heard normies saying that it's the same dagger over and over, they are literally retarded.
Connor Fisher
It would be infinitely more effective than charging head on into an unknown force that you can't see.
Blake Young
Why did they never include Patchface? He was spookey
Adrian Rogers
Nah
If she went directly to King's landing shes a conqueror
Saving the North makes her a liberator and validates her presence in Westeros
Grayson James
if this "same dagger" bullshit was real they should have made it more clear (but it is not, the NK was created using dragonglass).
Also, they could have shown the NK to be immune to valyrian steel for example, by having him battle Jon.
Hunter Morales
Doesn't make the action less heroic you fuckwit.
Nathan Fisher
It really seems like she saves Jon and then lingers long enough for her dragon to be swarmed. Why didn't Jon climb on the dragon and they both fly off to safety? Because Jorah needed his death scene
>sparrow >evil muh homophobia if he supported fags they would love him
Josiah Garcia
>MUH EBIL RELIGION >completely destroyed two of the "YAAAAS QUEEN" characters >knows homosexuality is a sin and has faggots converted or killed >came from nothing and became one of the politically strongest characters in the show just by being based >actually gave a fuck about the regular people >normies hated him
Fuck he was /ourguy/ the whole time
Ian Rivera
Hasn't the Night King been building his army for centuries? Hundreds of thousands seems like a low estimate, it could easily run north of a million
Michael Sullivan
>It's the same dagger that created the NK That wood bitch left that in him. How is out of him? Also wheres all the swirly stones around the weirwood tree at? I'm pretty sure it was a different tree.
Yes it does retard. A general charging head first into the enemy line without support, leaving a smuggler to command the army instead is stupid. Aragon charged the line with all the other men around him, because he's not retarded
Eli Flores
True fans won't watch the show. Or at least, people who respect narrative.
Cooper Watson
People can't accept this
Nathan Brooks
>charging into a lost battle like an idiot >muh heroism
Carson Perry
I'm not really disagreeing with you, but I definitely think that his two "look ma I'm composing the score" music video moments have been rather squandered.
then again I'm listening to the Hardhome music now and it actually is really great, but it's more up my alley with all the dissonances and constant shifts to convey different emotions in a complex sequence. My attention is more likely to be grabbed by structure than sophistation of arrangement because I don't normally listen to the OSTs except via the episodes themselves.
Gavin Cox
stop talking about cavalries and start having sex you virgins
Jordan Perry
javascript:quote('113991455'); Where did they steal the theme from?
Cooper Clark
>Unknown enemy This is the worst meme Jon has experience with both White Walkers and Wights given the massacre at Hardhome and when they went North to capture that wight
Noah Rogers
BEGONE THOT
Dylan Flores
She'd be liberating KL from Cersei who has absolutely zero claim, through right of conquest like Aegon I, and through a weak claim of succession. If she wanted to validate her presence in the eyes of the kingdom by saving the North, she could've done that after taking the throne, we already know there was no hurry as the WW can't cross the Wall.
Chase Hughes
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WITH THE WRITING THIS WAS SO GOOD
>That wood bitch left that in him. How is out of him? It's presumably still in him. It also isn't a dagger, it was a bit of dragonglass. I'm not sure why people think it's the same thing. >Also wheres all the swirly stones around the weirwood tree at? It's north of the wall, you see the Army of the Dead standing near said tree in one of Bran's scenes.
Eli Thomas
piss off slut
Angel Howard
Greatest threat of the realm handled under half a day.
>dragonglass is the same as valyrian steel are phoneposters really this retarded or is this just advanced bait from our jaded fellows
Evan King
The white walkers have always been a metaphor for climate change. Not having the long night be a world threatening event undermines the metaphor. Now it’s just “let the people up north fix it because it’s not a big deal anyways lol” the whole point of the series is “petty squabbling is a distraction from the real threat” while now it is “fuck the real threat, it wasn’t that important anyways. Back to perry squabbling”
Eli Bennett
I'm okay with the Arya thing now but it was only like 2 seasons of actual training
Christian Hall
Hammer and Anvil Infantry up front, cavalry swinging around to hit the flanks
Luke Flores
Big yikes my guy.
It supposedly "jumped the shark" with Ned, Red Wedding, Stannis, etc etc
Aaron Thompson
Doing what is right is not the same as winning a battle
She came jumping at me, this dumb high-born lass, thinking she could end the long night with a single stab of her dagger. I caught her in midair, but she did a trick with where she drops her dagger and catches it with her other hand. Gods, I was weak then. Stabbed me in my breastplate. Probably shattered every wight I had. Right before she brought it down I shouted, "Wait! Wait!" They never tell you how short the long night really is. They don’t put that part in the songs. Stupid me. Now I'm dead like everyone else. I could have lingered on the edge of the battle with the smart white walkers, and today my wife would be making me miserable, Craster's sons would be ingrates, and I'd be waking three times in the night to piss into a bowl. Wine!
I still believe the Dothraki death charged themselves into battle without Dany there to warm them not to. They do whatever the fuck they want, and charging head on is exactly what Dothraki do. They got hyped by the fire arakhs and ran with it. Dothraki would've been useless in that fight regardless of what happened.
D&D are this retarded, according to the Inside the Episode where Dan literally proves he doesn't know the difference between the two.
Lincoln Scott
Not discussing medieval tactics in a show where medieval tactics are or should be on display
Mason Edwards
Guys I'm gonna miss Jorah.
Luis Ramirez
>imagine still caring about this after having more than 3 days to get over it Honestly, I'm just watching the show with like minded friends and we're having a blast at how bad it is in general. Best way to watch the show now.
Ethan Ortiz
Aragorn literally charged in alone, atleast 100 yards ahead of everyone else. Fuck off you mong.
Owen Richardson
Have sex incel
Jayden Martin
Can't wait for Ahria to kill the mountain yea.
Colton Sanders
need the bad pusy lads
Adrian Hill
Arya is still a Mary Sue but now she's played by Abigail Shapiro. Is this acceptable?
>The white walkers have always been a metaphor for climate change. Stop this meme. GRRM has said he wasn't even thinking about climate change when he wrote them. You can certainly 'read' it that way, but it wasn't written as one. The idea is to put the struggles the people of Westeros get so engaged in into context by framing them as meaningless next to the threat of death.
Jackson Torres
pussy?
Not today.
Eli Campbell
Not disagreeing. But the surprised dorthraki was surprised because he was about to get btfo by a giant not neccesarily because he unexpectedly bumped into wights
Ian Torres
Friendly reminder that this is literally how the unsullied are described in the books.
I was shocked at how much they hated him when I talked about him with my friends. Like, massive hatred. Simply reaffirms my belief that blind rage at something shows a serious lack of understanding
>little bit of oyster sales This is the sad reality. Arya should be a decent fighter, maybe, but she definitely shouldn't be the amazing warrior she is. All other warriors who fought through that battle had killed dozens of men before. A little training montage is nothing compared to the lifetime of training and murder Jaime, Grey Worm, The Hound, and Tormund have been through. Even Jon, having been a teenage son to a lord, went through more training than her.
Liam Long
I would if the "k..khaleesi a crumb of pussy before i go" threads didnt exist
>It is the same dagger But the flashback shows the Night King being created with dragonglass. What the actual fuck?
Owen Smith
10/10 pasta
Oliver Clark
go back
Joshua Ward
who the fuck is the argyle commando?
Kevin Wood
With or without the climate change metaphor, getting rid of the night king before he really even does anything completely undermines the idea that the game of thrones doesn’t matter.
Justin Flores
DRAGONbone
Nathan Mitchell
>WE SUBVERTED THE GOOD SHOW BY MAKING IT BAD
Dylan Wood
>implying I don't have Yea Forums open in another tab
Jaxson Long
Teleporting has been established as a canon ability all main or side characters have since last season. Pay attention please
Luke Clark
lose weight femcel
Ian Harris
They also show Lyanna Mormont charging the giant with an axe, but killing him with a sword. The show is inconsistent and dumb.
Owen Ward
>People who respect narrative >The actual books and ending havent been written or thought out yet >GRRM still has 2 books to write >D&D doing the best they can with an unfinished work
Cool story bro
Enjoy A Dream of Spring posthumos GRRM spark notes in 15 years
Sebastian Bell
Hmmm... That's not true, and you know it. Maybe they got hyped from the fire swords, but the other people in the battle (even Daenarys) acted as if it was part of the plan. If you make the enemy engage in attacking the castle first, then flank the sieging zombies while they're engaged, the suicidal cavalry are pretty useful.
Also, where they gonna charge the enemy without the flame (considering that melisandre appeared out of thin air) and just kill themselves?
>It is the same dagger. It's not. Watch the fucking scene, he's created with Dragonglass. This is Littlefinger's Valyrian steel blade that was used to try and kill Bran. Why the fuck would such a blade be the same one anyway?
Michael White
That's been established and bitched about in S7. Get with the times!
Jordan Barnes
Beautiful
Aaron Sanchez
Sex is essentially flanking with a mid-heavy cavalry charge securing a superior field position
Sebastian Evans
To be fair, he has nothing to do with a show.
Matthew Ramirez
>night king was created in the presence of the weirwood of the old gods, stabbed in the presence of the children of the forest
>night king dies in the presence of the weirwood of the old gods, stabbed in the presence of the children of the forest
it's ring composition, and you don't even begin to get it.
Jaxson Diaz
While I agree that the Dothraki would probably been better used in more flanking/hit ans run role. its reasonable to believe they could have been somewhat effective ans taken out quite a bit of the undead army in their tard charge. Its not like the undead were using pikes... which speaking of what caused the Dothraki to get absolutely btfo without causing many casualties?
The Trebuchets not being in winterfell makes sense. It doesnt look like Winter fell is big enough to fit them. You could maybe fit a couple. Thats it. Plus you risk hitting your own walls with a misfire.
Bentley Foster
It would be nice if they showed that more. Based on how Jorah says nothing and goes with them makes me think it was part of the plan
Tyler Ortiz
Reminder that this is bait but there are undoubtedly people who unironically believe it.
>NK dies in and unexpected and organic way It was idiotic and only there for "MUH SUBVERSION," they have literally built up this threat since the show started and he is capable of stopping bran from warging to spy on him with stupid strong magic bullshit, it made no sense. >Ties in several prophecies and pays off 6 seasons of training for Arya She murdered the entirety of House Frey in one swoop and was expected to be the one to kill Cersei in the end, but "THAT'S NOT COOL ENUFF!!!1!" fuck off. >Doesn't diminish Jon's character It absolutely does. It is implied he was brought back for a purpose and now anything else that purpose could be is literally pointless in comparison to the Walkers. His entire storyline was about dealing with them, not shitty politics. >Also the leader that united northmen and freed folk, the first to do so in 1000 years, King of the North, blood heir, etc. Once again, all the struggles of men and largely pointless in the grand scheme of things considering they would all be dead if the WWs washed over them. Jon was resurrected for a purpose, and if that purpose was being King then it was literally just more petty throne shit. The entire point of this series was to show the folly of man in the face of inevitability but nope, fuck it, we're LOTR now. >Jon Snow fighting the wights was essentially when Aragorn fought the dead men of Dunharrow No. Go fuck yourself, no. That is literally the opposite. Aragorn needed the army of the dead to win against Sauron's army, a godlike being of unimaginable strength, and still would've lost without destroying the Ring. It just helped towards the completion of his character arc. The king shit with Jon should've been resolved first, then the fight with the WWs could've happened, because the king shit is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things in this setting. It's just hack writing. (1/2)
True but obviously noble houses such as the Tarly's still back Cersei, being born of Westeros and residing in KL for so many years, over a foreigner they have no experience with.
Obviously Cersei has clout enough to be backed by the golden company. So shes not exactly a despot.
Tarly's line of thinking was always "better the devil you know".
Mason Gray
>why dont fat and/ugly guys realize that life fucking sucks Defense mechanism. Instead of being paralyzed by being a fat ugly fucking shit he wrote an.... Book series.
Aiden Morales
And it wasn't even training for the most part. She spends most of the time washing bodies, and at most has moderate experience with a stick.
Hudson Price
Requesting the pic of the world's best Arya Stark cosplay
Isaac Hall
>bookfags seething because they know that no matter how bad the ending to the show is, it's by default better to the ending of the books
No one really acted like anything beyond Arya and Sansa giving each other a weird look. Jorah looked totally caught up in the moment. Without the fire arakhs they would've probably just wated to charge until the enemy was visible or at least heard to try and break the line.
I am at a loss for what the cavalry could've done at all in this situation. They might as well been left at Dragonstone honestly... cavalry tactics rely heavily on psychological affect. I don't think anyone expected the endead line to be so strong, and they just figured they would break it and retreat, rinse and repeat while siege hammers on the back of the horde.
Juan Gutierrez
As someone has hasn't watched an episode since Oberyn was killed, why was she afraid? I remember hearing and seeing tidbits about her being like a crazy combatant now. Why was she scared around the whites? Seemed out of place for her to be so spooked. Isn't she supposed to not fear anything or something?
Ian Ward
You could fit the trebuchets at least. They should have been behind the trenches at the most. The tard charge did and would not work (maybe if the dragons made the zombie army visible so the cavalry knew where their enemy was). End of the day; why are you defending this hot garbage?
Hunter Thomas
Well, he was probably supposed to go with the Dothraki, but if you watch the scene the cavalry actually starts the charge from the middle of the formation while Jorah is way off to the side. It also starts of sporadically like some dumbasses in front decided to just go for it while everyone else just kinda went with it. I blame hype in the flame arakhs.
Gavin Myers
The amount of headcanon people need to justify this episode is hilarious
Sebastian Butler
Why didn’t Bran immediately warg into one of the dragons???
Dylan Campbell
the books ended with jon dying, not the worst thing ever honestly
Wyatt Hill
>this i know, oh ho ho!
Isaiah Bailey
In the behind the scenes they said that Arya was bonked pretty hard on the head so that’s why she was a bit out of it during the middle of the episode. Unfortunately they didn’t make it clear at all or even imply it.
Jayden Long
What would he had done differently that the Dragons didn't?
Juan Walker
As soon as he hits the enemy line, there's about one or two seconds before the others do too. 100 yards my ass (besides, he didn't force the allies to abandon tactics in general due to his charge)
Zachary Smith
>"But!!!! Wasting the Dothraki uhh!!" That cavalry charge was the most retarded thing I've ever seen, and if you liked it you're retarded because "IT LOOKED COOL THOUGH UHH"
Equal numbers does not guarantee shit, especially when you so severely underestimate the capabilities of your opponents. The army of the dead literally feeds off the dead, meaning the cavalry charge has a high chance of making them STRONGER, not to mention the fact that those retards would've charged with regular fucking steel. The entire battle plan was idiotic and drawn up by jackasses who didn't even have the sense to google traditional medieval strategy because it wouldn't look as awesome.
Absolute fucking disgrace. And the worst part is, all of this will be defended with 100% complete unironic fervor by morons who can only absorb the "EPIC AND COOL" thing in front of them and have no capability to think critically. This is not a "turn your brain off lul" show, or at least, it wasn't supposed to be. This is the complete and utter failure of people who have no goddamn clue what they are doing and are too chickenshit to be what the show was back in S1.
But hey, fuck me, I'm just some incel on the internet being sexist and bigoted. I don't write Game of Thrones, and I don't make millions off of a braindead army of zombies. But then again, I'm also not responsible for one of the most disappointing and wasted potential moments in all of TV history. So whatever, guess I'll just go have sex. (2/2)
Not get lost in the bad weather because he is omnipotent and can see everything, annihilate the NKs dragon, burn the fuck out of every white walker in the Weirwood while John was fighting white walker dragon 2
Henry Rogers
Well of course it'll be better than something that doesn't exist, that's not really a milestone
Ian Thompson
>one or two seconds That's called editing, when he starts runnig it takes atleast 6-8 seconds before anyone else starts running. And they abandon tactics the exact same way as in the battle of the bastards, a blind rage-fed charge.
David Lopez
I don't know if it works that way, he would still probably be limited to seeing through the dragon's eyes.
Adam Ortiz
Cavalry period in that battle are useless, but the Dothraki weren't going to sit it out. They death charged themselves because they are stupid, but it was still a great scene for thematic reasons and visual metaphor for complete hopelessness
Colton Russell
This makes minimal sense to me. So all you have to do to diminish a person's training is.. Bump their head? You're saying she was scared because her head hurt? Or are you saying that... She was like in a daze?
