Stop motion thread

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Missing Link is a geat children movie. So its fail at cinemas is inevitable. Parents let their kids devour Marvel and Star Wars shit everyday because muh nostalgia factor while gems like this are forgotten by general audiences. We have what we deserve, really

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Is this A Monster Calls or whatever? Haven't seen it but heard good things.

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normalfags just wanna watch a cgi animal fight a cgi purple man

it's boxtrolls.
It's pretty good but not really amazing story-wise.
any other LAIKA film is better in my opinions

what movie is this? Kubo?

The main protagonist of that film is a fucking ugly monkey abomination

Yes

THIS.

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Isle of Dogs did ok didn't it? Haven't seen this one though. I guess my favorite is Nightmare Before Christmas.

My favourite stop motion work. It blew my mind the first time I watched it. Done by a Czechoslovak master, Jiri Barta.

youtu.be/-xlbvRy2-Kg

Wes Anderson movies are more popular for being...Wes Anderson movies:
almost every VA is a big hollywood actor.
Better marketing than any recent stop motion.

That should help you to feel empathy for the guy.

I wonder how long the Laika owner can continue burning his Nike money if all their movies keep flopping

This looks like a last nail on the coffin shit. And it's a pity, really.

I fucking hope not. Between them and Aardman, the craft is almost lost if they were to disappear.
Same shit as Bluth showing basic knowledge with 2D animation to students who have always worked with computers and can't draw for shit.

But eh, 3D CGI shit is now easy to produce, and cost a dent to make compared to those like Laika and Aardman.

Fuck this shit, I will keep rewatching the good ones and show up in theaters when they release something new. I can torrent all the other shit.

Word

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Why is the whole medium dying becuase of one uniteresting product?

I grew up with the first W&G shorts on VHS.
We went to see Chicken Run as a reward for doing a good job in school and being brave with the doctor.

I made some stop motion shorts with what I could find in my room when I was 14, with some cool tracks matching the fps.

lack of marketing and the story doesn't live up to the visuals on display

The medium is getting getting less popular each year.
Missing link is indeed uninteresting for most people, especially kids. But a big part of why it's not doing well is because this medium is kinda being forgotten

I'd tried to do stop motions at that age, but I was too lazy! It's cool how the stop motion animation evokes memories.

Cheers, the missus is Czech so now I can entetain her tomorrow.

streamable.com/aycea

Once again Japan saves the day.

You are welcome, user

For all stopmotion lovers who might be interested:
youtu.be/c-PfqVlBUuQ
They removed a lot of the traditional, charming jankiness with editing, but it's the real deal.

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The story was fantastic though

That's impressive. It really looks like a puppet

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So much effort is put into the stop motion that the story they are telling doesn't get as much attention

Laika's animation and sets are too good, it's almost completely indistinguishable from CGI

Hope Laika dies their characters are fucking ugly shits

Thanks fren. In the mid to late 00's there was a little community of stop motion makers on early YouTube.
It was the time when it was about creativity, new ways to express yourself, not Fortnite let's plays and YouTube as a legit way to earn your life. Before passion became pa$$ion.
These early days and Newgrounds have been prophetised as being the new birthplace for creators to make the next animated kino, where in the 60's and 70's it was being in CalArts. I hope that the future successful guys do pop up and get to do bigger projects and reinvent the medium that's starting to get stale nowadays...

youtu.be/mzGw_4sCjfc

Back to the classics

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But Laike DO USE CGI, just see that webm of Coraline you are linking

yeah dude I much prefer the dozens of pixar wannabes that have flooded the mainstream. God originality is overrated

Because it always looks like some pretentious French faggot brought his "vision" to life.

Style matters. Stop motion died off a long time ago because there are better ways to tell a story. Stop this faggotry.

>Fantastic Mr Fox
>Timeless classic

The book, yes. Andershit's autistic cringeflick, no.

I mean completely CGI, obviously they use it for backgrounds and additional things they can't do physically

>there are better ways to tell a story
There is no "best" way to tell a story. Stop motion works so there's no reason not to use it. Find a better argument other than using buzzwords like pretentious

THIS might be the only way to save stop motion
Have it interact with real people like they did back in Clash of the Titans or King Kong
As a full stop motion movie ...it basically just looks like a less Hyper version of a Pixar cartoon (too kids..the main audience)

I didn't say best. I said better. Stop motion always looks fucking hideous.

It's a bad cycle, that's all. There always will be underground artists who, trying to push the medium, will be back to the old ways. I prefer that kind of thing to the usual Wes Anderson Self-referential homage (having said that, I love Mister Fox with a passion)

>Stop motion always looks fucking hideous
So does your mom :)

We'll see if that's the case if this movie gets made.
rayharryhausen.com/force-of-the-trojans/

am I the only one that enjoyed boxtrolls?

Id toss them some bucks if they kickstart it but probably way too expensive.
I think it works better in horror movies anyway

Stop motion very much is dying. CGI can get a similar effect for far less effort, money, time, etc. It's not the same, but for general audiences there's not much separating them. At least not for the style Laika is perfecting. That style puppet has no fingerprints from claymation, and no realistic texture such as Fantastic Mr. Fox in most cases.

As someone who still watches actual TV from time to time, the movie had a huge push for trailers during prime time, and on youth channels.

It's not a lack of promotion that did this movie in, but that it was uninteresting. The movie looked like cheap CGI and never mentioned it was stop-motion or the pedigree behind the studio. Just that it had a bunch of big name stars.

And the icing on the failure cake was those stars didn't even come across as interesting in the trailer. They were all characters literal whos could have acted and you wouldn't have noticed the difference. They banked it on Hugh Jackman, etc. and it didn't really work to add anything.

The puppets look CGI. that's insane.

Too expensive and laborious I think, the forced digital integration would be hell.

Those would come on HBO in the 90s and I would always watch them.

I relate to that. I didn't know who were the voice actors until the ending credits.
>this sounds like someone I know, but wouldn't be able to tell who
Plus the fact that in my country it was promoted with the guy's doing the voices in our language.

Goddamn that girl is hot.

>Plus the fact that in my country it was promoted with the guy's doing the voices in our language.
This.
You can't rely on a big actor to voice a kid friendly movie if any other country in the world is going to dub it.

If it's dying, then Laika might not be able to bring it back

Their weakest movie by far
As much as I hate boxtrolls, this movie was just dull
Paced terribly and though the art was good, there weren't enough establishing shots for me to think "wow this is a really cool form of art"

I also don't see why they didn't stop by the adventuring club while they were in london or where-ever it was located

Based Miike
youtu.be/puen3HM_5l4

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LAIKA just keeps picking the most boring looking stories to tell. Look at Coraline or Nightmare Before Christmas, weird, imaginative, the stop motion adds to the atmosphere.
Missing Link would be boring no matter the medium it was made in

what the fuck

I had to wait for the showing with the original cast with subtitles, because our dubs are so bad nowadays. They try to bank on Star talent when there are better people that can do the job. And our adaptations are usually half-assed, so half of the humor is lost in translation.

i don't think there even was a english verion in my theatres. Movies like this get like 2-3 showings a day here. netherlands

For us it's mostly (in big theaters specializing on VO) 3-4 showings in dubbed version and the evening ones in VO. France

Kubo was the only Laika movie I enjoyed since Coraline. Missing Link doesn't appeal to me at all

I have a stupid question, couldn't you just do stop motion animation with cgi? Like use 3D models and animate them like in a stop motion film?

The problem today is that the technicians and designers make too polished work. Other anons pointed out that Laika work is indistinguishable from CG and obviously the product has a lot of digital work anyways.

Cgi kubo and missing link wouldn't look much different from stop motion desu

Depends on the details of the puppets. CGI is basically stop motion with digital puppets though, so not a big difference at the core. The main point of stop motion, outside of being traditional animation, is that you can do things CGI can't or do it cheaper. Animating super realistic or getting light just right in CGI is potentially more costly or still not there yet. That said there isn't a big gap anymore, and with CGI becoming more the norm these gaps fill faster and faster as tech demands fund the fixes.

Also doesn't help with you do stupid things like make puppets that look CGI and don't take advantage of the medium. And then add in CGI in post to finish things off further blurring the reason to use the medium.

No fucking way, the stopmotion in Kubo is absolutely gorgeous.

I didn't know Kubo was stop motion until the end credits

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It's just that it's too smooth. It already looks like cgi

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