Holy shit, a night time battle scene where I can actually see whats happening. Imagine that

Holy shit, a night time battle scene where I can actually see whats happening. Imagine that.

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I gotta re-watch these at some point.

Shot on Film

They thought they could compete with this? I can literally see every detail with my shitty backlight bleeding monitor.

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there was a lot of time and effort put into those films by someone who spent years and years working on it with a 100 million dollars or so

game of thrones is some garbage,, but it's worked on by some guy for a few months on a budget of 10 million or whatever.

yeah, the movie is longer but not 10 times longer.

The entire GoT episode I was thinking "God LotR did it so much better I can't believe it"
I just ended the episode and only thing I wanted was to re-watch LotR. Moria, Helm's deep, so many other great moments.

Night time with rain and they still managed to make it look good and coherent

Wtf I can't see shit

Andrew Lesnie won an Oscar for his cinematography in those films.

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>As you might expect, the enormous battle scene is being compared to the Battle at Helms' Deep in Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, which was artificially lit. This was shot by the late Andrew Lesnie.

>When Sean Astin, the actor who played Samwell Gamgee asked Lesnie where the light was coming from in such a dark setting, Lesnie replied: "The same place as the music."

>movie budget vs show budget
No shit, Sherlock.

Even GoT did it better with Blackwater on a lower budget. Of course they had the book and the actors actually acted back then.

What the fuck why aren't they outside the castle walls and why didn't they elves suicide charge the Uruk lines like my based game of thrones?

Have sex.

Lord of the rings is top basedboy material but unlike star wars it gets a pass
Why?

Nostalgia cuckoldry. Same as the prequels.

The Fellowship of the Ring is the only worthwhile film.

But user, Jon and Dany sent all those Dothraki and Unsullied for one purpose only: tax evansion.

The shit can be seen on the lower left corner. There's even stink lines. Very realistic.

>platonic masculine friendship
>honour
>duty
>christian morality
>basedbois

you really are a fucking moron aren't you

They should have taken this "season" and just made a trilogy of big budget movies to wrap this up and released them theatrically. That way they could have expanded the scale and scope.

>I think it was better than Helm's Deep
>I was on the edge of the seat during all the fight
I had a friend unironically say that to me a few days ago.

>The Fellowship of the Ring is the only worthwhile film.

The Two Towers is a masterpiece!!!FACT!!!

get a better monitor, you virgin neet freak
have sex

You expected to see something in GOT

expectations subverted

>Same as the prequels.

kill yourself

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>>"The same place as the music."

What did he mean by that?

>the two towers being used as criticism for game of thrones
>conveniently ignore the talking trees plot
bros i know game of thrones is shit, but come on, LOTR and especially the Hobbit are far from innocent as well

Aged horribly just like ROTK

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Same the ending was just as shit as all the GOT battles.

>convenient rescue army out of nowhere

Didn't Game of Thrones end up blaming the audience by saying their TV settings are wrong?

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He's saying the lighting isn't really there in the same way that the music isn't really there. It's added to enhance the film.

yes i'm sure still images of CGI heavy shots of a two decade old movie prove your point
dumb nigger

I'll take realistic light over things being made brighter for simpletons

>reddit typing
>doesn't understand why got battle was bad while this is good
>didn't pay attention to the story at all
Go back whence you came.

Nobody is claiming the Hobbit films were good mang

The Ents represent Tolkien's environmentalism. If you fuck with nature enough, it'll fuck you right back. Better than the """"subverted expectations""""" of GoT.

>20 years of technological progression

You're an idiot, if you can just see everything at night by turning everything blue and don't use darkness and light as an added element in your cinematography and storytelling, it defeats the point of having a night scene in the first place

Let's get real here, the episode will look incredible on bluray without the shitty streaming compression. It looked fine for me on streaming and everyone else that doesn't have a shitty tv with factory default settings

Partially. They also blaimed streamers for overworking the system. Totally valid for HBO to not account for streaming

Yep.

tvline.com/2019/04/30/game-of-thrones-season-8-episode-3-too-dark/

I guess Disney opened a pandora's box for studios to just blame the audience when shit doesn't go down right

>Aged horribly just like ROTK

Says you. To me it's on par with Empire Strikes Back and Avengers Infinity War in terms of satisfying middle entries. TTT has a more resounding climax than FOTR but none of the dragged out sappiness of ROTK. TTT is perfectly paced!!!FACT!!!

>The Long Night
>Complains they can't see
Plenty of legit criticisms here, this isn't one.

>"bUt tHe dArKnESs wAs MoRe rEaLisTic bRO!"

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it's good because you are an incel alt-righter

>heh, these simpletons can't understand true cinematography

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It's still not realistic though. If it was really shot without lighting on a cloudy/foggy/blizzard night, you wouldn't see shit.

I'm surprised you didn't blame Trump for the scene.

*sip*
Army of Darkness, now THAT'S a movie that got the undead right.

That orc structure thingy falling into the caverns was really neat. I think it was a miniature model.

Well I watched it on my TV with automatic brightness adjusting and saw everything perfectly fine, so they're right.

This, the Fellowship is the only truly great film, even based Viggo knows it
>All three LOTR films were nominated for best picture at the Academy Awards, with the final installment, The Return of the King, taking that top prize, as well as a best director statue for Jackson. But Mortensen has a decidedly different take on the quality of the films. He believes The Fellowship of the Ring is the best movie in the franchise, in part because Jackson relied less on special effects for that outing.

>“Peter was always a geek in terms of technology but, once he had the means to do it, and the evolution of the technology really took off, he never looked back,” Mortensen says. “In the first movie, yes, there’s Rivendell, and Mordor, but there’s sort of an organic quality to it, actors acting with each other, and real landscapes; it’s grittier.”

>Mortensen says the “ballooning” of Jackson’s reliance on CGI began with the second film, The Two Towers, and has increased with each subsequent project. “It was grandiose, and all that, but whatever was subtle, in the first movie, gradually got lost in the second and third. Now with The Hobbit, one and two, it’s like that to the power of 10,” Mortensen says.

>Mortensen has deliberately chosen more character-driven fare since LOTR launched him into global superstardom, and had hopes that Jackson might return to his small-film roots as well.

>“I was sure he would do another intimately scaled film like Heavenly Creatures, maybe with this project about New Zealanders in the First World War he wanted to make,” Mortensen says. “But then he did King Kong. And then he did The Lovely Bones - and I thought that would be his smaller movie. But the problem is, he did it on a $90million budget. That should have been a $15million movie. The special effects thing, the genie, was out of the bottle, and it has him.”


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>automatic brightness adjusting
jesus christ how much of a brainless mental midget casual can one be

>implying game of thrones doesnt have a gigantic budget
maybe this would be a valid argument in season one, but the episodes all have budgets of like 10 million dollars now.

>T. seething because he was to dumb too adjust his brightness

You know, i didn't really appreciate LotR back in the days because Hollywood was consistently giving out great movies then so I just kinda expected the film to be that good. But now i realized that, like the Matrix predicted, the end of the 20th century was the peak of human civilization and LotR was the peak of movie making

inhumanly based

Changing the visuals to be able to see means that the work itself is badly made. Might aswell make your own color grade of it while you're at it.

It's the equivalent of changing the EQ in order to hear a song, meaning that the producer who made the song mixed it so bad that you have to correct his mistakes.

>LotR was the peak of movie making
lmao

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>100 million dollars for an entire 3 hour film
vs
>15 million dollars for each episode, with most of that budget for the first 2 also used for the third

so, 100 million for an entire film vs 35 million for a single battle.

Is that supposed to prove me wrong? This scene you think is so shitty actually had a great score in it and still made people cheer in the cinema. LotR is so good it makes cheesy look awesome

>I am biased!

>That orc structure thingy falling into the caverns was really neat. I think it was a miniature model.

It was and being augmented with tiny CGI figures scrambling made it all the better. That scene was MINDBLOWING back in 2002. I fucking LOVE The Two Towers!!!FACT!!!

A lot of the Ent attack shot was practical models also

>dude people cheered so it's good!
Yeah people cheer for braindead capeshit aswell

That's just hackson being given creative control for a brief moment. But the trilogy as a whole is 10 hours of pure epic. It simply will not be matched again

First time I watched in my shitty laptop E03 I couldn´t see shit. Then I went to a friend´s home, I watched with a proper resolution and I was blown away by the naturalistic approach of the cinematography job. It´s risky as hell, and it doesn´t work at any given time, but I like it.

joe555 is trolling the shit out of that comment section

Where's the light coming from? Not realistic

Moonlight

Why do all the rooms in GoT have randomly lit candles in them? Not realistic

>hyped to be better than helms deep

Try again

This realistic meme should stop. There is nothing realistic in cinema, which is a deceptive art. If you want realism, go to a fuckin museum.

>If you want realism, go to a fuckin museum.
This makes no fucking sense whatsoever lmao

Obviously. Realism in art is a form of shynthesis. Nothing realist at all in realism.

There is a difference between realism as school of artistic expression and being true to the world that was created within a piece of art.

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same

I was also at the edge of my seat when i watch it, couldn't see what was happening otherwise

At least physics should be consistent. If magic or dragons are involved, that's okay but retarded mistakes like randomly lit candles and normal humans jumping 30 feet is just dumb.

Lol tune your tv properly.

I´m talking about the "naturalistic" light. People are summoning the realistic meme and I call bullshit. Are there problems with the cinematography? Yeah, and the digital work that was done worsens the problem. But it´s interesting and true to the battle context when you watch it in the right conditions.

>From heaven
Lotr is truly a blessing from Eru.

>you need a gorillion dollars to adjust the brightness values

>The ents
>A bad thing
Fuck you the ents are great

that still looks cool

Cringe and Hasty-pilled

Literally all they had to do to evoke the feelings of Helm's Deep would be to have archers on the fucking walls of Winterfell and a phalanx guarding the courtyard with a Dothraki flanking charge later in the episode. Imagine Helm's Deep again except with Aragorn, Legolas, Gimli, the elves, and all of the Rohan civilians standing outside in front of the walls while the 10,000+ armored Uruk-hai walked towards them, and then putting a sheet of black construction paper over the camera lens. That's basically what this fucking thing was.

SE08E3 wasn't just incompetently thought out, it was incompetently edited and incompetently shot. 100% of it was done for MUH VISHIES. Daily reminder if the Deus Ex Wine Aunt hadn't shown up to light the Dothraki swords on fire, they would be charging at the undead with regular steel swords which don't work on them, in the dark. Meaning that corresponding shoulder shot of Dany and Jon would have been of them standing on a mountain staring at a black nothing. So obviously they counted on the Red Lady showing up to do that for them, only we don't know that because they banished her on-screen in previous episodes.

It's all just SO fucking bad.

My TV is fully calibrated. If I have to change a single value that means the filmmaker/cinematographer/color grader has done an awful job