/got/ general

cast the inevitable rebellion prequel
i'll start

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actors who read all the books after getting the role:
>Gwendoline Christie (Brienne of Tarth)
>Natalia Tena (Osha)
>Rose Leslie (Ygritte)
>Ellie Kendrick (Meera Reed)
>Aiden Gillen (Littlefinger)
>Mark Addy (Robert Baratheon)

actors who read the books season-by-season:
>Kit Harington (Jon Snow)
>Emilia Clarke (Daenerys Targaryen)
>Nathalie Emmanuel (Missandei)

actors who had already read the books:
>Ron Donachie (Rodrik Cassel)
>Ian McElhinney (Barristan Selmy)
>Finn Jones (Loras Tyrell)
>Harry Lloyd (Viserys Targaryen)

actors who only read their chapters:
>Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (Jaime Lannister)
>Sophie Turner (Sansa Stark)
>Michelle Fairley (Catelyn Stark)
>Pedro Pascal (Oberyn Martell)

actors who read "a few" books:
>Joe Dempsie (Gendry)
>Alfie Allen (Theon Greyjoy)
>Rory McCann (Sandor Clegane)
>John Bradley (Samwell Tarly)
>Michael McElhatton (Roose Bolton)

actors whose parents have read the books:
>Maisie Williams (Arya Stark)
>Kristian Nairn (Hodor)
>Richard Madden (Robb Stark)
>Lena Headey (Cersei Lannister)

actors who read a single book:
>Iain Glen (Jorah)
>Sean Bean (Eddard Stark)
>Charles Dance (Tywin Lannister)

actors who have emphatically never read the books:
>Peter Dinklage (Tyrion Lannister)
>Carice Van Houten (Melisandre)
>Liam Cunningham (Davos Seaworth)
>Stephen Dillane (Stannis Baratheon)
>Hannah Murray (Gilly)
>Natalie Dormer (Margaery Tyrell)
>Conleth Hill (Varys)
>Iwan Rheon (Ramsay Bolton)
>Julian Glover (Grand Maester Pycelle)

turns out blackfish hasn't actually read the books

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reminder the greyjoys are a bunch of jobbing wankers. the mighty iron fleet and iron captain got rekt by Stannis.

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Mine was some Tarly boy at the battle of Summerhall. My horse took an arrow, so I was on foot, slogging through the mud. He came running at me, this dumb high-born lad, thinking he could end the rebellion with a single swing of his sword I knocked him down with a hammer, Gods, I was strong then. Caved in his breastplate. Probably shattered every rib he had. Stood over him, hammer in the air. Right before I brought it down he shouted ‘Wait! Wait!’.

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that pommel looks so fucking lame

way too old

What's especially odd is that some of this shit is from this season.

I know we're all curious, so here's Attorney General Bill Barr's take on the Night King

>“Who is the client?"

>“What would you say if it were theNight King?”

>“I would say he was within his rights to try to protect himself and that the creation of an army of wights was well within the scope of his power and a logical step for a man who believes he has done nothing wrong.”

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Who is that faggot twirling two swords supposed to be?

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>Bobby B read all the books
lurv im

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Season 7, I'm seriously considering dropping this entirely. Should've 3 seasons ago, although it was bearable. The whole stealing and using identity illusion is too fucking much.

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enjoy this image for some reason

How it should've happened
youtube.com/watch?v=cGh3s0lPxCQ

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Why is armor so useless in this show? Wouldn't chain mail be able to stop a sword thrust from turning you into shish kebab?

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*pew pew*

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Ellie read it before getting roles
She's a Yea Forums gal

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>Ramsay, have I ever told you about your mother?
>She was a peasant girl, pretty in a common sort of way. She was a miller's wife. Apparently they married without my knowledge or consent. So I had him hanged and I took her beneath the tree where he was swaying. She fought me the whole time. She was lucky I didn't hang her too.
>A year later she came to my gates with a squalling baby in her arms. A baby she claimed was mine. I nearly had her whipped, and the child thrown to the river. But then I looked at you. And I saw then what I see now. You are my son.
>She was a good friend Ramsay
>Now go forth with Ser Twenty Goodmen and destroy Stannis's camp

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What the fuck is Euron even going to do now? They've completely wasted Asbaek so far aside from him BTFOing the Dorne plot out of existence. All I can see is Asha/Yara or Cersei killing him off for a token grrrl power moment, or maybe Jaime. They're never going to introduce all the weird magic shit, or even something as simple as trying to take command of the Golden Company.

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It's like poetry, it rhymes.

ALL HAIL HIS GRACE KING AEGON OF THE HOUSE TARGARYEN, SIXTH OF HIS NAME, KING OF THE ANDALS, THE RHOYNAR AND THE FIRST MEN, LORD OF THE SEVEN KINGDOMS AND PROTECTOR OF THE REALM

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>Access: Did you actually go ahead and read the books?

>Ellie: Yeah, I did actually, because I thought, I don’t want to sign up for this part and find out that I like die or have to get naked two episodes down the line (laughs) as sometimes happens, and so I looked at all of my parts in the books because my character accompanies Bran. … There’s so much rich description of all of the characters and it’s actually incredibly useful as an actor, to be able to read that and be like, ‘Great! Thanks! Thanks, George R.R. Martin. You’ve done all the work for me!’

actually looks like she's a POVchaptersfag

B R E A S T P L A T E S T R E T C H E R

youtu.be/Z9dNrmGD7mU

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So what was the point of Bran other than to confirm Jon’s identity and sit there like an autist?

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Chainmail is effective against slashing, but not piercing. Leather likewise would do little against a stab.

Saved

glad they had theon get stabbed with the blunt side of his spear through armor instead of bringing his arc full circle and having him play a crucial role in the fight that that pits the starks against greyjoy next episode

based barristan, he deserved better.

Muscle for Cersei.
He will co-lead the army along with discount Jaime and probably gonna get lucky enough to kill one more of Dany's dragon before getting eaten/burned alive himself.

Because this isn't season 1.

Euron isn't in the show. I don't know who THAT is.

'ATE THE SISTERFUCKERS
'ATE THE LANNISTERS
'ATE THE DOTHRAKI
'ATE THE MAD KING
'ATE ME WIFE
'ATE THE COUNCIL
'ATE MOTHER
'ATE THE CRONE
'ATE THE FATHER
'ATE BEING KING
'ATE THE BOAR
'ATE THE WHORE WHO 'S PREGNANT

LOVE ME NED
LOVE ME LYANNA
LOVE ME 'AMMER
LOVE ME WAR
LOVE ME WINE
LOVE ME 'OURNAMENTS
LOVE ME FEASTS
LOVE ME WHORES
LOVE ME NED (AGAIN)
LOVE ME BOOKS

SIMPLE AS.

desu just about every actor in the show (with the exception of some minor characters like the sandsneks or shay and later also sansa) has done at least a decent job, even the ones given shit tier scripts like aiden gillen or gwendoline christie.

>So what was the point of Bran
Comic relief. He is going to remind everyone about all the wacky stuffs and sexual abuse they have to endure the past 8 seasons while complimenting how beautiful they are.

>old man with knowledge role

Themes are for __________

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Incels

Considering how great he was burning down the traitor Iron Fleet, I actually think Pilou Asbæk would've made a good Victarion if he grew out his beard. Not on the level of Ray Stevenson but still, that scene was fuckin great.

dumb cunts

>Instead of a dumb frontal charge like the Dothraki, the Golden Company cavalry goes on a deep flank and assassinates all the White Walker lieutenants watching from afar. Euron shows up with the Ironborn carrying the Iron Fleet ships 200 miles inland where they spit jets of Wildfire Byzantine-style, consuming the Dead in a green flame. When the Night King arrives on Viserion, Qyburn launches Gregor out of a trebuchet and he cleaves Viserion clean in two with a giant Valyrian steel greatsword forged from Red Rain, Nightfall, and Lady Forlorn. The Night King falls hundreds of feet and does a superhero landing, but he turns around and Euron lops his head off with a giant Valyrian axe. Then Euron pulls the Night King's pants down and mocks the size of his member.

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You know, if they have big budget they could just CGI Sean Bean, Charles Dance, Nikolaj and Lena to look younger. Maybe have some more CGI to make Mark Addy looks muscular.

>or have to get naked two episodes down the line
Yeah that would really suck haha...

Harrenhal?

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>Pilou Asbæk
Def a better Victarion than Euron. I just feel sorry for the actor, but a jobs a job.

I understand that they were on a tight schedule and couldn't sit on their asses for years not making a script like GRRM but they literally failed in every respect with the writing. It started last season in earnest and reached a crescendo with this last episode.

They lost characterization, logic, pacing, lighting, dialogue, cinematography, and steady plotting. The literally only thing that survived was the music and that could never be in a book anyway.
What the flying fuck happened?

Pilou works great for hammy over-the-top roles. He plays a pretty cool super Nazi soldier in that Overlord movie from last year.

>Homeless Harry will not have any more lines of dialogue this whole show
le sigh

could say sean bean also read his chapters and season by season

>OFF
>THE
>TABLE

They are hacks, pure and simple.

What are the Golden Company even going to do? Are they still founded by Blackfyres or are they just random really professional mercs from Essos for some reason? Euron and the Golden Company could've been great if they kept Euron the valyrian steel armour wearing, brother-raping, nightshade swilling madlad he is in the books and the Golden Company the disciplined mix of Essosi and Westerosi arms and tactics they also are instead of faceless mooks.

On the table: Harrenhal
Not on the table: Dorne

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They should've passed the torch after season 3 if all they wanted to do was the Red Wedding. If they bothered actually adapting AFFC and ADWD each of those books could've been two seasons worth of material and we'd just be getting to end of ADWD here on a season 8.

>imdb.com/title/tt6027912/
>8.8

i base it on how they describe what they've read
if they say "i read the first book" then it's "one book"
if they say "i read my chapters" etc
obviously theres no way to know the truth, they could all be bullshitting

Based and villainpilled. They actually managed to make the crown's forces more interesting than generic plucky norf underdogs.

Probably just mercs. They exist soley to bolster Cersei's numbers.

>it started last season
It's shit since the 4th season my dude.

>The literally only thing that survived was the music and that could never be in a book anyway.
It's the one thing that remain consistently good or even improve as it goes along. Light of the Seven, The Night King, Army of the Dead and High Sparrow are some of the best theme in the series and they all happen post-season 4 where they start to deviate from the books.
Not to mention the various remix of Rain of Castamere.

>dropping by the day
>soon to be 8.5 after the normalfags change and rate their scores

It is known.

A reboot is inevitable if the other books are released but even then it won't be the same. Image a Jamie not acted by nicolaj or twyin not acted by Charles dance.

Reminder Beric kept coming back to life and losing his memory in order to get a knife shoved up his ass holding off zombies for Arya

So did he give her the coin of braavos?

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They had the books and they had George on as a writer.

If they wanted they could have planned out everything, everything could have been foreshadowed in advance in a satisfactory way, every character could serve a purpose, there would be no filler and they could have done it without characters teleporting over the place with a clear timeline.

It's achievable. The thing is they didn't want to.

...am I supposed to be looking at something shocking here? is this supposed to be controversial? please explain.

They rushed. Simple as.
>Book 1 -> Season 1
>Book 2 -> Season 2
>Book 3 is way bigger, split into two in some publications -> Season 3 and Season 4
>Book 4 and 5 happen at the same time and 5 is as big as 3 so essentially three books -> Season 5
>Season 6 realise not enough material, go back and cannibalise dropped plots that no longer work, season falls apart
>Season 7 totally off book, at this point fuck it we'll just do generic fantasy
>Season 8 big battles

By rights Dance and Feast should have covered S5, 6, 7, maybe even 8, then four more seasons left for TWoW and ADoS. Obviously this is really long but what do you expect when adapting a seven book series that push the manuscript limit for each book.

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look who the exec producer is

Feast & Dance should have been for S5 & 6.
The show ideally could end in season 9 or 10, with some original materials or GRRM's input.

>the Golden Company cavalry goes on a deep flank and assassinates all the White Walker lieutenants watching from afar.

you mean, the Golden Company gets intercepted by the NK riding a dragon trying to do a deep flank and gets raped.

this buys into my theory that arya is mind controlled by the faceless men

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We are never ever ever getting the books finished. I just want to know how it ends so I can get on with my life and daydream how it would of gone with the books better execution

Normies still love it, why cling to the hopes that they also care about plot, characters and atmosphere?

yes I see it... is that supposed to mean something?

>>Season 8 big battles
>big battles
>battles
WE'VE HAD ONLY FUCKING ONE (1) SO FAR AFTER TWO (2) EPISODES OF BUILD UP WITH A SHITTY PAY OFF

NEXT EPI WILL JUST BE TALK AND SHITTY FORCED DRAMA TOO.

so last "battle" will be episode 5 and 6 to wrap up 70+ hours of television

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Just make it an animated series. Hire some anime studio or some shit and do a loyal adaptation.

This. And the only reason they rushed is because DnD were getting exhausted. Fuck them. They're weak.

yes

here is an overview, (only goes to s5)

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It wasn’t even a good battle too, the Battle of the Bastards was significantly better.

well?

The show butchered it I bet. In the books I'm sure bran is crucial to finding the one weakness the others have. Remember nobody in the books even knows that a nk or some leader even exists.

>steals the franchise
>calls you a faggot for reading the books
i hate normies so much

Dabid’s crayon supply is running low, don’t bully.

All we have is the Great Other, which is probably more like the LoL. I doubt we'll ever have a NK in the books. Euron will take control of Viserion instead, and the wall will probably come down some other way, probably the horn of winter.

The Arya Kills Everyone show

Cool, when does she off herself?

I actually thought the weird horn we see in S2 is going to be the White Walker's way to take down the wall. The Night's Watch just happen to camp to close to the WW's target.

I guarantee that'll be how it happens in the books, and Euron will blow it.

>NK leaves a few WW with a large army to attack Winterfell
>smart tactics and the combined effort of Bran, Melissandre, and Dany's Dragons save the day
>the army is destroyed but they force the remaining dragons there
>using knowledge from Bran, flies to King's Landing and revives the many dead there accumulated from recent seasons
>king's landing is a slaughter, cersei and the golden company flee north (euron left to secure the Iron Islands)
>the forces of the living are now pinned from the south and the north by armies of the Night King
There you go, you dumb hacks.

yeah it's in the books too. Some speculate it's the mythical horn of winter which is supposed to bring the wall down. Just another meaningless scene now though.

I see
I have only read the first book, still haven't got around to read Clash and Storm.

>Renly's peach was left out of the show
Early warning sign that D&D were hacks

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

The rightful queen must be avenged.

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Well, just be prepared for a massive divergence when you get to the end of Storm and beyond.

even the poo's are having disputes over episode 3

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>Smirk status
>Fail to protect
I will never forgive that cunt Cersei.

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How old is she?

She died trying to save everyone

M-Margery?

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it's not that bad.... you know it

What could happen in the next 3 episodes to redeem GoT?

Fuck off Garoo

She died trying to get the fuck out. She didn't care about anyone else except her family.

Cersi winning the throne bowl

t. pranay garoo
nice argument

If I was Jon, I'd give Dany the crown and then this will be us. Me as link

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>Jon killing Dany
>Tyrion finally stop being a pathetic cuck
>Jaime killing Cersei
>Have Djawadi delivers another kino score
There.

strawpoll.me/17927240

Quick question for book readers

Well. Euron getting fucked by the Mountain.
Cleganebowl. Jaime killing Cersei.Dany killing Sansa. Jon killing Dany. Bran revealed to be LoL and us getting a super montage of him setting everything up and getting stuck in a perma timeloop.

She tried to warn everyone (including the Sparrows) to get the hell out of there. But yeah, mostly she is just trying to get Loras and his dad out, why should she give a shit to the peoples destroying and betraying her family.

Where did the horn go after mance shows Jon the horn? Does he and milissandre still have it? I thought he said he was bluffing.

She shoulda started biting those damn faith militants.

she cute

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>Dany killing Sansa
>Mfw she puts Sansa in another trial by fire like her dad did all those years ago.

die virgin

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He never actually found the one he was looking for. The one that was burned was another.

who

I see people going for Arianne, I get that it's the most apparent answer from the sample chapters but I honestly see George swerving us somehow

Mance never had the horn. The broken horn that they found at the Fist of the First Men is still with Sam, as of AFFC.

Daenerys dies an anti-climatic death at the hand of Jon. Danyfags are the worst so their screeching would redeem this shitshow a bit.
I also hope that Russian hackers leak the last episodes so it is going to be spoiled all across the internet before the official premier.

The rightful King of Westeros

Yeah, I mean I can't think of anyone else though. Maybe Dany. No way she's going for Euron for realsies.

He's a fraud

Reminder that the Blackfyres had the true claim to the throne

>Daenerys dies an anti-climatic death at the hand of Jon.
I think Daenerys dying is pretty much a given either at the hands of Jon or the bad guys at this point, given Emilia Clarke's vague comment about her final scene.

Go back to shitting up plebbit

tfw no tyrell gf

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It would be funny for Littlefinger to steal Aegon away from Varys using Sansa but I think ultimately Littlefingers wants to marry her himself. I don't see Aegon marrying Dany because she'll resent him having a better claim and end up probably killing him, maybe in a dragon dance. Aegon/Sansa is my heart but Aegon/Margaery is my head, Mace will turn cloak and annul the wedding to Tommen since they haven't banged yet

it's hard lad

youtube.com/watch?v=QHOT_GwlNzQ
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ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH THE USURPER BENIOFF AND WEISS

Is Dany preggers?

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AH! AH! AH! AH!

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I was thinking about this just today. How is Jon's appearance not a fucking contradiction to what the original season was about? The whole point of Gendry being black-haired was that the seed was strong. Yet somehow, Jon, the son of a BLOND guy with purple eyes and a girl with hair anywhere from light brown to dark brown and green-eyed was born as a fucking dark-eyed, dark-haired guy? And he's supposed to be a Targaryen? What sense does this make?

You think she ever sat on his face that would be weird haha

I like those ideas. Dany killing Aegon makes sense. I wonder if/how we'll find out if he's actually a blackfyre.

WHEN IS PRESTON GOING TO UPLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

>Tyrion gets drunk in the crypt
>Lyana Stark’s zombie comes to life
>Tyrion being held down and killed by the stark whites
>Lyana bites him on his crotch, ripping
>”and now i am dying with a belly full of wine and a whores mouth around my cock, truly poetry”
When they showed him drinking in the crypts, I really though they might go there

Reminder that once TWOW is released (lol), only then will George decide what he wants to work on next, and it may not even be ADOS, but rather Fire and Blood 2, more Dunk & Egg, or more Wild Cards. Reminder that George is 70, and the average life expectancy in the US is 78.

You are now Tywin Lannister, how would you teach these punks so they could start being more responsible and stop trying to fuck & kill each other?

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fuck niggers

fuck them myself

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The twist is that Lyanna was a megathot that got around.

You know she did.

>You will never be the son of a great lord at court in King's Landing, courting the favour of Alla and Elinor Tyrell while secretly collecting Margaery's old hair and worn shoes
Why live?

Bran becomes the new Night King

delete this

Have a threesome.

Nice reddit fanfiction, I’m glad you don’t write for TV

To be fair, Jon isn't the first dark haired Targaryen in history. I suppose Targaryen genes are regressive when one of the parents isn't Targaryen.

Only Baratheon colours are strong against Lannisters. There are multiple Targs in history with dark hair because their seed ISN'T strong 100% of the time. The real issue with THE SEED IS STRONG plot is that the kids have Jaime's golden hair, which has magically now turned brown over time. Also Renly in the show didn't have dark enough hair imo.

LOL You think she might have wrapped her legs around his young body and rode him hard? haha thats so gross

That’s not what happens, Bran is there at Tyrion’s trial before Tyrion is killed

Aegon lands with Jon Connington. Doran is revealed as still alive, along with Ser Barristan. Arya gets stabbed to death by Sansa, who takes off her mask and says, "Shaosh ish e ladde." Bran is revealed as completely evil. Euron goes to conquer Oldtown and has the Sea of Blood battle that awakens the Kraken. Jorah comes back as a wight and rapes Dany then turns her into a wight and they live happily ever after. There must always be a Night Couple.

Childhood is worshipping Tywin. Adulthood is realising Kevan was more based all along.

Yeah I feel like George realized this and that's why Duncan the Small happened to get dark hair.

Probably start by separating Jaime and Cersei and stop being a cunt to Tyrion (also, make sure to do something about his whoremongering attitude).

HOW DO YOU KNOW THO, post source.

>infant mode
Tyrion
>redditor mode
Jaime
>teenager mode
Tywin
>midlife crisis mode
Cersei
>adult mode
Kevan
>arthouse mode
Lancel

GODS WHAT A STUPID NAME

have sex

>Lancel Lannister

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>subvert expectations by making Azor Ahai prophecy meaningless and by extension any character nodes related to it
>(but actually a prophecy comes true anyway by ret conning throwaway blue eyes line from S3)
Will the rest of the show be about how Azor Ahai prophecy failed and therefore the entire Rhllor religion/prophecy in general is mere superstition? Or will this be totally forgotten next episode with zero consequence?

more wine?

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Your mother was a dumb whore with a fat ass. Did you know that?

childhood is thinking tywin is a master of the game of thrones, adulthood is Olenna, God status is Littlefinger

>you will never travel to the lands beyond the wall again
>you will never see euron blowing the horn and summoning the kraken
>you will never see dorne taking king's landing
>you will never see stannis and barristan's real honorable deaths
>you will never hear anything of howland reed again or anyone from their family
How does this make you feel, /got/?

>god mode
Genna

He was on his way to doing it before Joff died. Cersei needed to be packed off and remarried. Jaime insisted on keeping the white cloak which is fine I guess so long as he follows orders. Tyrion is married to Sansa so when the time comes they can have Winterfell, which gives a good reason for Tyrion to give up Casterly Rock. Award that to Kevan and his sons when Tywin dies. Joff needs bringing under control so get him a new master of arms to beat some sense into him and have Tywin take him on as squire to teach him how to rule and how to command. Tommen can get sent to squire for one of his cousins like Daven or whoever we elevate to power once the wars are won. Myrcella is fine in Dorne.

Now that the dust has settled, was Jofferey actually a bad king?

>Reddit: le character

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>Littlefinger
BUT SHANSA PLEASE

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>ascended mode
Big Based Genna

No. He was a good king. He was just a psycho as a person.

No.

He was the definition of "have sex"

He was meh. Would've been nice to have against the Sparrows. I bet he would've mellowed out with Margaery.

the exact other way around

Tonight
Hammond charges at the dead on a horse
James hides in the crypts
and I get raised back from the dead

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Robert was Newgrounds
He was 9gag

trash

I don't get why Mel, who has spent her life trying to bring about the prophecy of Azor Ahai suddenly abandons it and believes Arya will do it with no connection to the prophecy whatsoever. The fact Mel is the driving force behind Arya doing this makes zero sense whatosever - she should literally be the one who is questioning why the fuck it's Arya.

Why didn't Littlefinger call for a trial by combat?

>was Jofferey actually a bad king?
Yes, he is a bad king.
However, his reign was good, because of the people who were taking on the role of king via proxy.

If Bran isnt the Night King we riot

wasn't it banned at some point?

Tywin isn't a master of anything. He's like the guy that appears to be on top before the branch is cut from under him. Due to his orders during war, many people have it out for him and the Lannisters and would eventually come together to bring them down. Not to mention he got his own son to hate him enough to put a fucking bolt through his belly, and wasn't able to stop his two normal kids from not being incestuous.
Real talk, Tywin was a shit father, and would've been a shit king that got dethroned if a long enough time passed. His only luck was siding with Bobby. That's it. Robert was basically the carry in this game, and while Tywin was farmed as an offlaner, the enemy carry would've caught up sooner or later.

Too young to actually rule so technically not, but he would have been. His one actual political decision not filtered through a Hand or regent was killing Ned which led to even more war when Stannis and Renly were already a threat

Doesn't matter Arya slit his throat

Because he needed to fake his death

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>and therefore the entire Rhllor religion/prophecy in general is mere superstition
If it was mere superstition how come its priest can form living shadow weapons, read the past and future in fire, immolate random things with their hands and resurrect people to fight with flaming swords?

haha LOL you think she rode him to completion while smothering him with her breasts

>literally shaking rn
Is this what being a normie feels like?

How do I anshwer theshe chargshes Shansha? You claim that I pushed Lysha Arryn through the moon door. But did you not teshtify in front of Lord Royce and othersh that she fell through the moon-door riled up in a frenzy when she tried to harm you? A very intereshting accushation I might shay. Doesh thish mean that you lied to them for your own self-intereshts? That you were complishit in the crime of her murder? I'm confushed Sansha. Did you not cry and beg them to undershtand your precarioush shituation and that her death washn't intended? Are you shaying that you've merely pretended to be dishtresshed? That you deceived and manipulated them to eshcape jushtice? If I'm such a monshter why did you try to protect me? How would I have harmed you if you told them the truth? You were under their protectshion and you shtill told them this shtory over and over until they forget that it's a lie. How can we trusht you to tell the truth. You shtand accushed of conspiracy to murder Lysha Arryn, Sansha. How do YOU anshwer theshe chargshes, Sansha?

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He did.

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>this will never be you

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By the High Sparrow in KL, but I don't know why the North would give a shit.

>margaery
>breasts

He would burn the entire city/at least the sept much earlier than Cersei did.

the egg is strong

YER GRACE
IM COMMIN'

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What could have been...

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Not really no. He was a *bit* of a psycho but he did his job well enough given his age and the difficult position he was put in

Compared to his faggot brother and his lazy cuckold "father" he was a great king.

He is an overrated commander too, he wins no significant victories that weren't handed to him (Green Fork was a feint attack, Blackwater was served by Littlefinger on a silver platter). Not sorting out his kids was his own fault and very short sighted.

So wait, showfag normies don't know about the prophecies Rhaegar was obsessed with and think he ran away with Lyanna just cause, and are okay with it?

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Littlefinger is gonna help stannis take winterfell by using the vale army, then hes gonna kill stannis, take control of his army, and make his own claim to the throne.

he's going to be used for the final battle then will go north to await the next night king, last scene in the show he goes back in time completely

>he forgot based Gerion

He did do the whole Reynes of Castamere, and sack KL. But yeah, he was a great politician but a a passable battle commander

>when the time comes they can have Winterfell
Wasn't it still being held by Roose at that point? Are they going to cheat the Boltons and get rid of them?

>Clegane bowl: Arya jumps at the last moment and saves Sandor Clegane by stabbing the mountain at the last second
>Cersei: Arya uses Jaime's face and kills her
>Daenerys: Arya stabs her before she burns Jon
>Last scene of GOT: Arya jumps at the camera holding the dagger and it cuts to black

Reminder that Aemond One-Eye's son at Harranhal was the true heir

Good. I want to die if that happens.

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>another character robbed of years of development in order to pad the goblin’s already-inflated kill count

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but if he goes back in time, doesn't that defeat the whole "i'm the hard drive for mankind's memories" thing he's got going on?

>you now remember her character and other minor changes were your biggest issue with the show

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bro normies dont even know peoples names

they think beric is "that guy with the flaming sword"

After the wars were won and Winter had passed. Roose would bleed his men out fighting Stannis and other Northern Lords, who would just turn on him again to support Sansa's claim. He sets Tyrion up with Sansa AFTER sending Jeyne Poole to marry Ramsay so he was probably planning exactly this.

LF knows he’ll never be accepted as a king, he just wants a major seat and the power conferred by being hand or something like that. He'd rather rule from behind the scenes

If we only had known what was yet to come back then.

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He'd just be happy with Harrenhal.

What prophecies? Rhaegar and Lyanna were madly in love, it's a romance tale as old as time.

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>off the table
FUCK

We were told winter was coming...

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Normies can't even tell the difference between Rhaegar and Viserys

Meet the new Sealord of Braavos, bitches.

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And now it begins.

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>loved the show but still nitpicked it unnecessarily
>didn’t appreciate it how it deserved back when it was still good
I was an ungrateful fool and now I’m being punished for it

NU NAWITENZ

Nowh... Naow ee ehnds :-(

It's actually depressing. They don't know who Jon Arryn is, the guy who essentially starts the plot. These are people SO STUPID that even D&D recognised they would get confused by Robert Baratheon and Robert Arryn having the same name. This despite one being a fat adult who dies in season 1 and the other being an autistic child largely absent until season 4.

Nao wittenz

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>changing robb's entire character
>minor changes
Yeah, no, fuck you. The show is irredeemable now, doesn't change the fact that they fucked up starting with episode one.

>Be highly trained legendary assassin getting the drop on your victim
>Scream at the top of your lungs while you do it

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So, now that everyone expects Arya to score another top-kill, wouldn't that subvert the expectations to have die of frequent liquid shits come ep4?

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He wants Harranhal and to fulfil prophecy in some unclear Rhaegar/Mance/Bael the Bard/Jenny of Oldstones thing.

That's what we deserve for being autistic retards I guess.

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Theon killed more of the living in winterfell than the Night King.

People keep blaming D&D for the bad writing but I'm starting to believe this is all GRRM's fault.

GRRM seems like the kind of writer that start writing his story by throwing enigmas, cool ideas, fan theories and complex shit, then tries to figure out how to tie them to a narrative, he was a fanfic fag after all.

I guess that's the origin of most of these inconsistencies, D&D were following GRRM ideas, even beyond the books, up until they realized they were fucked if they keep this path because it was walking too narrow options for a good cinematic ending.

So they chose the bandaid strategy, kill the bad narratives quickly and people will bitch less about it than if it dragged along.

I'm pretty sure GRRM will die and not finish Winds of Winter, let alone Dream of Spring, all the talk about being "almost there" is likely licensing people happy.

he's too powerful magic wise to exist in the game of thrones world, same as the dragons and night king

the meteor was the signal that the dragons were born and magic returned to the world which alerted the night king that it was his time to attack

the dragons will all die by the end of game of thrones, probably there'll be a mcguffin where they find a dragon egg somewhere

bran is completely removed from the realm of men now that the night king threat is removed, he'll probably either help them finish the war or completely stay out of it and travel to the past
dabid and dabid will pull a m.night shamalan and say that bran has to go to the past to become the first three eyed raven etc

I hate Aryas development so fucking much
>Be blinded
>Get beaten with a stick for two weeks
>Congrats, you are now a ninja capable of defeating supernatural death incarnate ice king.

What if episode 4 is just 60 minutes of characters praising Arya for killing the Night King and some preparations for the march on King's Landing?

What would happen to /got/?

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its sansa because she will end up in conflict with dany in the endgame. George told the HBO faggots the rough idea of this and this is the retarded interpretation we see in the show.

DAVIIIIIID

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user, it's 80 minutes of that

It's literally be going to be exactly that

oh please, overreact much?
His changes were nowhere near as gamebreaking as what they are pulling now.
seeing as they didn't even bother correctly with the Blackfish and riverrun it has 0 influence in the long run.

>highly trained legendary assassin
>some brat who spent a few weeks sweeping floors, swinging around a stick and failing all assigments given by her mentors before running away

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>Arya's been training for seasons

Up until season 6 Arya's training amounted to a few sword lessons with Syrio back in S1, getting knocked around by the Hound once in S4, and a bit of clam shell merchantry in S5.

It's only during S6 (for about four episodes of S6) that she undertakes the rigorous training with a magical death cult assassin's guild (while blind) that would explain her unbelievable abilities later on. In fact, most of her training was dealt with in a single musical montage.

In my dreams
I kill him every night

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So why is nobody talking about how the actors themselves are hating the writing, arya killing the NK or tyrian turning into a retard

>Final Episode
>The winterfell crew shits themselves to death squatting in the grass due to handling all the putrifying corpses they got drowned in

Would it be Kino?

>gets stabbed with the blunt end of his spear

i get what you're saying and agree little bit but seeing all the fanfic seen here on how so many things could've been handled better i do think they should be blamed

Last 20 minutes is hack and hack fellating their own subversions

does anyone have that quote from the books about the character eating his own diareah over and over again because they are throaty and have no other choice

Robb barely had a character in the books. We didn't even get a PoV.

>ape-bobby throws his poops at rhaegar before tearing off his face
extremely based

Look up FrikiDoctor, HBO is suing him. He was the first to mention NK storyline wrapping up in episode 3 and leaked Cersei pregnancy last season so I have to believe everything else he says has a higher chance of being true than not

>still goes trough his armor

Do you mean the "Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning" Dany chapter? Pretty sure she just drinks stream water, not her own shit

>isnt it weird how Robert has brown hair but his kids don't?
>clearly the only explantion is that he's a cuckold, I would know because I have a sixth grader's understanding of genetics

people DIED over this shit
tens of thousands of people DIED over this

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No, the confirmed runtimes are for the episodes themselves and exclude the inside the episode parts.

How could you write so much wrong in one post? Holy fuck.
>People keep blaming D&D for the bad writing but I'm starting to believe this is all GRRM's fault.
That's because you're an ignorant retard.
>GRRM seems like the kind of writer that start writing his story by throwing enigmas, cool ideas, fan theories and complex shit, then tries to figure out how to tie them to a narrative
Wrong, and there are countless GRRM stories already out for you to read.
>he was a fanfic fag after all.
???
WHAT THE FUCK?
Martin has gone on record saying he hates fanfic several times.
>I guess that's the origin of most of these inconsistencies
No they're not, the origin is Benioff, a dumbass that changes characters randomly based on his self-inserts and doesn't know how to make a TV show.
>D&D were following GRRM ideas
They followed his ideas when they changed characters and cut out 80% of Feast and Dance?
>up until they realized they were fucked if they keep this path because it was walking too narrow options for a good cinematic ending
Lmao, as if this is somehow a good ending?
>So they chose the bandaid strategy
Wrong, D&D just wanted to be done with the show so they can go make other shit (now Star Wars).
>I'm pretty sure GRRM will die and not finish Winds of Winter
Completely irrelevant, since we already know that D&D fucked up, and more importantly, we know why they fucked up.
>can't plan a shoot
>spent 3-4 years fantasizing about having an undead polar bear as their most important thing to do
Fuck you.

Brainlet. Robb was way more developed in the books than the show. On the show, he became a retard in S2E1.

>youtube.com/watch?v=QHOT_GwlNzQ

What the actual fuck? They are openly bragging about how much of a talentless hacks they are that only got the job because hbo wanted to see some of their wasted money back. And the brainwashed normies in the audience are cheering. You can't make this shit up.

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they weren’t wrong though

Magic =/= gods existing

How is it overrating, lol? I am just telling you you're retarded. This is like saying, "Wow, I can't believe this girl that texted my friend behind my back also sucked his dick." They have a history of ruining shit and went turbo when Martin left.
>robb didn't have a character because he had a pov
Brainlet.

it was manky diseased water which gives her the shits, could also be downstream of a lambing field i shubbose

Feeling SUBVERTED yet?

>literal miracles and incontrovertible evidence of the divine
>it’s just magic bro it’s not a big deal

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You should read Tad Williams' Memory Sorrow and Thorn saga and spot the similarities with GRRM's work.
The guy could sue the fatman for a whole lot of monies.

Is Rhaegar a chad or a beta?

Did you miss her entire crisis of faith after she burned a 9 year old to death?

To be fair it's a few things
>Every Baratheon-Lannister match in history favours Baratheon colours
>Bobby's bastards are all dark haired
>They probably look literally nothing like him while Gendry, Renly and Edric all have strong similarity to Robert at their ages
>Spymasters like Varys and Littlefinger would be well aware of Cersei and Jaime banging anyway, leaking the secret when convenient
>It's mentioned Cersei and Jaime were caught banging when they were kids or something

have sex

autistic beta orbiter

>You should read Tad Williams' Memory Sorrow and Thorn saga and spot the similarities with GRRM's work.
Or you can fucking name them to make your point, instead of trying some vague comeback that I can't respond to.

The point of trial by combat is to divine the will of the Gods. Bran is literally the gods of the north

Rhaegar is the Chad Virgin
Robert is the Virgin Chad

But in all seriousness, everyone agrees that there's going to be one more twist with either Bran and the Wights right? Or am I just bargaining at this point?

-ep 4: they confront Cersei and win, end of the episode Night King does some stuff with Bran and is somehow not dead, marches dead Winterfell forces south.
-ep 5: Sansa and Daenerys conflict reaches maximum, Sansa has vale knights try to kill her since she will refuse to bend the knee and Jon kills Daenerys after Daenerys kills Sansa, Night King arrives to Kings Landing and brings back all the forces from the Cersei battle.
-ep 6: Night King locks himself inside the Red Keep and waits on the iron throne for Jon and the others to do a small focused assault on the keep, Jon now having Lightbringer from killing Daenerys can kill the Night King for real.
20min Epilogue: Jaqen kills Arya for abusing the faceless powers, pulls off his face to reveal he is Littlefinger. Wrap up some stuff with what little main characters are left.

Would fix a lot but this will definitely not happen, it could if you think of what they can get done in a movie or two with the same amount of time but they are probably going to spend 1hour of Arya calling people smart and boring.

But even after that, she told Jon he was the Prince Who Was Promised. She stopped doubting herself after resurrecting him and came to the belief she was wrong about Stannis, but right about Jon.

She dies of turbo aids she caught from Gendry. Gendry has turbo aids dick from fucking street hookers in King's Landing
>"three"
>... she can't know it was three hundred
next episode is Bran, Gendry and Arya sitting in a room together
>"the whores, Gendry. The whores are beautiful"
The scene cuts to Gendry telling a whore that she looks like she smells of blackberry jam, just as Bobby did

I guess retarded normalfags can go on autistic rants too.

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Bran = NK Is the most brainlet theory imaginable

No way either Tywin/Littlefinger could predict that shit. They have no idea Stannis is going North. At the very least not until he rescue Jon from the wildlings invasion.

how did arya manage to jump 7 feet in the air to get above the night king?

>pulls off his face to reveal he is Littlefinger.
CHAOSH!

>this imaginary man wouldn’t be angry about having his arc stolen in the gayest, least satisfying way possible so neither should you

Now, there's a person that needs a beating.

Not a chance.
Even if there was, there are only 3 episodes left. You'd need way more if Bran became the Night King. There isn't enough time.
I'm fairly certain D&D have said the White Walker storyline is done

The Stannis part yes but they'd still rather have someone else deal with the Ironborn and unruly Northern lords, and it gave time to put a boy in Sansa's belly who could be seen as a male heir

>muh prophecy
>muh edgy music
>muh three heads of the dragon
autistic beta clearly

And what if Roose gets a trueborn son, hell forget that, they legitimize Ramsay into a true Bolton. What if they someone do their job too good?

Can someone post the other book vs tv show ones

I've lost most of mine

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> how did a woman
stopped reading there incel, have sex

>Princess from the north nicknamed Marya wanders the countryside with her pleb tier friends running from a war between kingdoms.
>Storm King who brings winter and wants to end mankind (fucker even has an army of the dead)
>It has a fucking comet in the sky that makes the seasons all wonky; long summers and winters
GRRM is a hack and he deserves his story butchered by moneygrubbing handrubbers.

It's complete fucking trash but I can see episode 6 six having one last after credit cliffhanger that will never be answered until the books.

I am at a loss for whatever amazing character development he had in the books vs show.

The show changes his marriage, arguably in a way contrary to his book character, but it creates a more interesting dynamic. Jeyne is boring, and there is little friction in the books between Robb and his bannermen. He's more boring in the books and is practically a mary sue.

We don't even get any insight into his true character because we don't know what's really going on in his head, but instead from his mom's perspective as an idealized child.

Probably one of the dullest characters in the books.

>Preparations for the march on King's Landing
>Main cast and 10 other guys who survived the battle marching off to war

You just know they are gonna pull an entire army out of Sam's gigantic ass, eventough their force just got completely obliterated.

*somehow

NEW

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I forgot to add that this Marya princess dresses as a boy to not be recognized.

Game of thrones is stolen work, repainted and resold.

>7:30
>Sometimes if you know, you don't like the actor much...
What was he going to say here I wonder.

There is no Azor ahai prophecy in the show

What kind of a character can a child have? He's just mini Ned.

The abomination that is butted mail, maybe. Proper riveted mail does give a decent protection against stabbing, and the gambison word underneath it gives some more.

Leather is shit doe

Tyrion would have the Iron Throne and the Westerlands at his back, the North would likely hate Roose for the Red Wedding and not support him. Noone really knows it was Tywin's idea and they'd probably rather have Ned's grandson in charge than known murdering psychopath Ramsay or Red Wedding turncloak Roose.

Arya is a pretty good example of an interesting child character.

youtube.com/watch?v=QHOT_GwlNzQ

Those fucking cheers.

Doesn't excuse when Jorah got stabbed through a steel breastplate though.

lovecels, when will they learn

This is what peak autism looks like.

>???
>WHAT THE FUCK?
>Martin has gone on record saying he hates fanfic several times.

Have you actually listened to the actual interview???
I did and he didn't say that, he actually said he is ok with fanfics because he would write them in the past but he has a problem with people straight up copying and selling stuff related to his content. He has no problem with people's theories and etc as long as they keep with to themselves.

Also, most writers nowadays love to read fanfic theories and incorporate them to their histories, the internet is their co-writer.

Whoops mispost.

>>Princess from the north nicknamed Marya wanders the countryside with her pleb tier friends running from a war between kingdoms.
I don't see the relevance.
>I forgot to add that this Marya princess dresses as a boy to not be recognized.
A trope as old as time.
>Storm King who brings winter and wants to end mankind (fucker even has an army of the dead)
Again, that's like basic fantasy shit.
>>It has a fucking comet in the sky that makes the seasons all wonky; long summers and winters
Another trope that's been around since ancient times. If this is all you've got, I feel sorry for you.

Yea Forums is telling me normies loved 8x03 but according to comment section on IMDB and YT it doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe there is still hope in this world.

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Nah Wits Ends

Anybody have that pic of dead Theon lying in the mud?
Can anybody add the [crushing sound] subtitle to it and post it?

you're all up in arms defending GRRM and when confronted with him not being original at all all you can come up with is
>m muh basic fantasy trope.

His story doesn't deserve defending and deserves being raped for big bucks and big audience.

If this is all you've got, I feel sorry for you.

Bran wakes up from a fever dream and it's a season 5 start.

>IB GURRMS FAULT!!
You say that as if the show only got shite when D&D ran out of material; yet when they still had 2 books worth of material left they still fucked half of it out the window and went their own way and when people didn't like their plots they killed off all the characters.

It would definetely subvert the expectations.

I do not come up with that, that's just a fact. There are tons of ancient myths that have these exact tropes. This is like saying that a revenge story is a copy of Monte Cristo. You're fucking retarded and your books are shit.

Yeah I wonder what's up with that. A plot hole perhaps?

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Only Baratheon seed is strong you t*rgaryen faggot

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Have sex.

Great idea GRRM, let's throw more irrelevant shit at the audience, that surely can only help, even better, lets keep dragging along dead plots full of dead end enigmas that your fat ass can't tie up.

youtube.com/watch?v=4xvv1sxS9-E

Go finish Winds of Winter, you fat hack.

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Bran will somehow learn how to raise
and control the dead through warging, and they will use the dead to fight the golden company. He'll become the night king by doing this. Screenshot this