When did it lose you?

Season 1 Episode 1

Season 4 was good though? It was just missing some plots which were important later

The entire Dorne subplot was literally one of the worst things I've ever seen on TV. It was Shadow the Hedgehog-tier edgy.

I'm just watching to spite the fat man for not finishing his books, best case scenario we get some ebin twists in the next three episodes

Once season 5 started and onward, with the butchering of Dorne, all of that lead up with Margery only to get Allahu akbared by Cersei, Dany abandoning Essos despite not knowing how to rule, Littlefinger's trial. Everyone should have seen the signs by then that this show is a husk of its former self. The battle of winterfell is just piss icing on a shit cake.

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Right here

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I can pinpoint the literal moment. Season 4, Episode 10, when Jaime frees Tyrion, and he doesn't tell him about Tysha. This moment was crucial to Tyrion's character development - without it, he's a static character. His farce of a trial, people falsely incriminating him despite his actions on the Blackwater, Jaime’s revelation about Tysha, Shae’s betrayal, Tywin’s murder, and his exile all sent him spiraling on a path into self pity and self destructive behavior in the books. He’s clearly become a much more damaged, darker, and cynical person since his first introduction in A Game of Thrones. He is full of hate, anger, self loathing, and vengeance. In the show, he remains a static character, spouting witty lines such as, "You have no cock."

Dorne was always shit, the butchering of the Iron Islands is the real crime

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Ive enjoyed all of it, but the plotting slows down slightly and it diverges from the books because it past how far GRRM gotten. Especially season 5, I stopped around there for a while and then caught up again and the recent stuff has been great.

Even tough it declined in quality, I don't remember it being this bad.

season 8 is on a new level of bad.

the writing is terrible, predictable and completely disconnected from game of thrones essence

AAAAAH SAVE ME GREY WORM
I already stopped caring before that but it was one step too far

The capture of the skelly, and LF's death. s7e4 was great, then everything went to extreme unbearable shit.

About when Arthur Dayne was swinging around two swords and the actor or stunt guy was clearly struggling with them, and they tried to play it like he was some legendary swordsman, better than any other. I'd had doubts about the showrunners' storytelling chops before, but that was when I was sure the show was made by actual idiots.

After season 4 they started writing the show around twitter reactions and T-shirt slogans

Dorne is intriguing and should have been visually beautiful. Iron Islands is among the most cartoony stuff, but yeah it was a huge waste to not actually portray the Kingsmoot

I think season 4 was the last good one, it was the last one I could get thru, I didn't even think about it I just got bored halfway thru season 5 and never bothered to watch it again.

The show is based on a book series and the writer of that series had major involvement with the show during the first 3 seasons, consulting on every episode, but also even writing and directing some episodes himself. Season 4 he quit, but the show writers still had really good book material to work from. Season 5 is where it really started to go off the rails as the book material ran out and the show runners started trying to make everything a shocking spectacle at the expense of characters and plot lines.

season 4, I didn't like the mountain vs oberyn duel either, the guy moved around like an oversized toddler

Sand Snakes

When they retconned Tysha for literally no good reason

This. I only watched the first few episodes of season 5 and lost all interest. I couldn’t bring myself to care about it.

Seasons 1-3 were nearly perfect. Honestly about as good as you could possibly expect. Season 4 was also incredible for the most part, desu 95% of it was even better than 1-3 because they were relying on one of the greatest fantasy books ever written for the story.

But there was one storyline in season 4 that i remember being a definitive "huh..." moment. It was the mini-arc of Asha (Yara in the show whatever) going to free Theon from Ramsay, which actually started in the season 3 finale.

It culminated in a completely pointless scene where the ironborn storm Ramsay's keep and get to Theon but he won't come with them and instead he alerts Ramsay. Ramsay infamously has no shirt on during this scene and it's our first glimpse of what would turn into an invincible Gary Stu villain because D&D didn't know what to do without Joffrey. The whole thing was so fucking stupid.

Hard to say when i knew it was truly shit but I have distinct memory of that being the first seed. And boy oh boy the seed was strong

HAVE SEX
youtube.com/watch?v=o0uiT9-qHZI

Stannis burning his daughter alive while his crazy true-believer wife tried to stop HIM (or save her,really) was the first time I realized they didn't care about characters (Or at least not Stannis.) as much shock value. Jamie raping his sister right after his redemption arc was another huge red flag for me. But the episode where they go north of the wall to capture a wight was where I really stopped caring what happened anymore because it was clear to me after that episode that this wasn't the show I fell in love with anymore, it was just another awful T.V. show.

when they assassinated Stannis' character because the show writers are renly-stans

You need the bad poosy

things really started to go downhill when Geoffrey died

Bran becoming a psychic and Arya going to assassin school was when it because a dumpster fire

>when Jaime frees Tyrion, and he doesn't tell him about Tysha.
THIS. Good lord I was pissed about that.

I was also disappointed they cut Lady Stoneheart out of the story. By the time they killed off Doran Martell so they could focus more on the Sand Snake cringefest, I was done with the show. Fuck that.

1) no more source material
2) became insanely popular
3) Sansa rape scene, new fans inexplicably upset about it, the show runners capitulate to feminism

Contrary to popular belief, season 4 was not good. Episode 2, which GRRM wrote, was probably the last decent episode. D&D even fucked up the Mountain vs the Viper with their flashy bullshit. It was meant to be a chess match but instead Oberyn is flying around like fucking Darth Maul.

They followed the general plot line of the finale of Storm of Swords, but believed their own hype and stopped extracting dialogue nearly altogether. They removed a great scene between Tyrion and Jaime at the end because the show literally forgot about Tysha (or wanted to replace her with Shae, whose character was completely mishandled).

The show started to deviate in season 2. It stopped following the beats and dialogue of the books, but instead used them as a guideline. In season 1 the scenes without book dialogue were in the minority. By the second season this dynamic was flipped.

yeah same

Season 5. The previous seasons did a pretty good job of introducing minor characters who then later have much bigger rolls. But in S5 they introduce consequential characters out of no where. Like "The High Sparrow", who despite having no mention before, suddenly controls all of kings landing with his army of religious nuts.

After season 4

Season 4 end

The head writers of the show are the biggest hacks in Hollywood. They're complete morons and literally do not understand anything about writing good stories or why their show was so popular to begin with. The first three seasons they had help from the writer of the books. That's all.

I wouldn't get invested in this show, btw. The last episode that just aired literally killed the show. All 8 seasons were building up to it and there was no payoff whatsoever. The biggest threat in the show wasn't a threat at all and all the plots tied to that threat are meaningless now. The whole show is literally meaningless. I don't recommend watching it.

Season 3.

Never watched it to begin with. Still dont.

How jealous of me are you right now?

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for me my biggest 'wtf is this shit' moment was the failed theon rescue mission. but looking back it was basically right after tywin died.

This moment right here. There was no going back from it.

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Tywin's death. After Sept blew up was when I knew it was truly dead, after the removal of basically all of the side characters I knew it would just devolve into the Jon/Dany vs Cersei story and be shit.

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For me it was after Theon burnt Winterfell. I can't exactly remember why I was so mad. I think it had to do with diverging from the books so hard, and the funny thing was that it got so much worse after that.

There may have been more to it than that but that was the point where I started regarding the show as a piece of shit rather than a good show that made mistakes here and there.

When tywin died

What they did to Dorne is pretty much the best example to show how terrible the writing is, and what they're actually trying to do.

several things, but I still keep watching...
>tywin dying
>stannis burning his daughter
>killing off my frogfu

Poor sweet Joff was a better villain than Tywin

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Last episode

Tywin and Stannis dying. Literally the only good characters.

S8 E1 when they wasted a full episode in the final 6 episode season on nothing
yes, I thoroughly enjoyed S5, S6, and S7

Plebe

Tywin was good, but I don't understand Yea Forums's love for Stannis, his character was as basic as Jon's

LOL. By the looks of this thread, you should clarified:

>show watchers, when did it lose you?

OR

>book faggots, nobody gives a shit they failed to mention your obscure character or plotline.

Season 2 when robbs wife became a different character than in the books. Im a bookfag and I didnt understand why they werent just sticking to the books. I got called stupid back then. Look who’s laughing now

Middle of season 5 but I really did like the new episode

Season 8, Episode 6

Last Sunday.

When Jon Snow "came back" it was the final nail in the coffin for me, but there were several red flags before that:
>Tywin dying
>Tyrion becoming a memelord
>Brienne "killing" the Hound
>The Night King showing up (sorry, I never liked him, he's not in the books and makes the whole White Walker concept less scary and more comic book-like)
>Dany being called Mhysa and hyped into some sort of saviour that can do no wrong
>Oysters, clams and cockles

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same.

When it stopped being ASoIaF and become normie soap opera

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that happening seemed very out of character for Stannis

Battle of the Bastards. I thought they could still change it around with Jon growing as a leader. I was done after that.

Season 4 for sure. All of dany plot lines were garbage and it was the start of garbage arya plotlines.

I don't think THEY even knew what they were trying to do. Alexander Siddig claims he was originally contracted for 4 episodes. Then
time.com/4505820/game-of-thrones-alexander-siddig-doran-martell-doran-death/

>So something happened; I have no idea what. There was an enormous amount of fan excitement when I got named to be on the show, and everyone was like, “Oh my god, yes, Doran Martell. He’s going to be great as Doran Martell.” That might have been the kiss of death. Maybe they didn’t want quite that much attention on that character. Maybe they thought, “Well, let’s prove that we’re going to stray from the books. We’re going to do something else, and he will be our first example of that.”

It's hard to think mountian vs viper was only half way though the series. The last 4 seasons have been extremely unmemorable.

retards

well, it didn't lose me because I still watch it and I bet the same can be said for most of you faggots, otherwise the show wouldn't literally take over the board every time there's a new episode.
However, it has clearly dropped in quality and that was in S5 with the introduction of the Dorne plot and the god awful way Dabid handled Stannis.

when they completely butchered Tyrion's character by having the tysha plot be meaningless. It's only downhill for his character after that, he has done nothing but be a complete fuck up for 3 seasons now doing nothing useful and making retarded decision after retarded decision and drink wine so epic!

To be fair, Littlefinger's trial happened in last season (7) which I personally can't remember for shit. I still remember scenes from 5, even though the decline was visible by then.

when jon snow came back to life
> for the watch
that was a good, memorable death, now ruined

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They needed a light skin chick for diversity. Remember the SJW's were bitching alot back then on how white the show was.

he's a total retard in the books as well, and I bet you hate Penny as well you pleb

she's white you moron, literally Charlie Chaplin spawn

Charlie chaplin is a fucking jew, not white

Season 5 when like almost half the episodes leaked on day 1

Kind of just ruined the season, then ontop of the terrible, terrible writing it just sort of made it a “I’ll stream it and shitpost on /got/ about it, Hardhome got me pretty excited for the finale tho

typical kike, everyone including Hitler is a jew in your world view, sick fucking piece of shit, you will hang first

Jew isn't white fucking libtard.

The end of season 3.
All perfectly reasonable.

The stupid fucking sand snakes and the character assassination of Stannis

Still some decent moments aside from it but seasons 1-4 were by far the best.

when I rewatched it I skipped probably 95% of season 5

The end of Season Three.

The death blow was the Sand Snakes. The absolute death star killshot was the way they offed Baelish. But essentially everything after season three has been sunk costs and a desperate need for closure since the books will never be finished.

When the cockless soldiers were hiring prostitutes to be their mommies. I found that really silly and dropped it.

don't know if you can consider this white my amerimutt

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>Sansa...

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Dubs of truth.
>The rape, Sansa. It was beautiful.

Damn amerimutts look like THAT?

When LF fast shipped his beloved Sansa to Ramsay Bolton and checked 'as a gift'.

No, pic related is the average. Pic in previous comment is top 0.000001%

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Season 2

Season 4 it started seeming off

Season 5 and them completely fucking up For the Watch I knew D&D didn't give a shit about the show

The iron islands and the greyjoy chapters are some of the best imo.

I don't watch capeshit

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Season 5 definitely. Sand snakes kind of snapped it for me and I began to realize how dumb D&D is.

After season 4.

This scene right here. You see that shit! I literally threw my bbq wings at my TV!

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barristan selmy's death I think

i disliked almost everything thats not in the books. except maybe Myrcellas death
When they started portal jumping all over the place i lost interest

Season 4. The whole plotline about Jon was super lame, I hated that feminist bitch love interest, and the battle was low budget.

>I don't understand Yea Forums's love for Stannis

youtube.com/watch?v=3J9o10dHXB4

Bran and Gendry and Rickon and Joffrey and Tommen and Jojen and Dickon and Lancel are so handsome.

the battle of the bastards was terribly done. Was that the point where they decided
>Fuck tactics
>Fuck any kind of realistic medieval battle
>Look we have a wall of bodies now
?

>3) Sansa rape scene, new fans inexplicably upset about it, the show runners capitulate to feminism
Amazing how Sophie Turner thinks it was beautiful, but some infantile overwatch-playing fat teal-haired cunt on vegan ice-cream diet did her homework in Liberal Arts about this scene once, and now we have to watch the series burn, is it not?

Somewhere between John Snow's death and resurrection.

Fire throwing children, magical trees, and face changing assassin abbey really made me lose interest in this.

Once I found out about Littlefinger I never looked back.

no yes no yes no no yes and yes

Season 4 after it deviated too far from the books. The combination of merging characters and killing others to end subplots got annoying. This is also the time the 'fanfic' scenes started to really get stupid (characters interacting with people/locations they didn't/shouldn't etc). The production quality hadn't taken it's final nose dive yet, so complaints are about writing.

But that's how tywin dies in the books, how could that be a problem? My issue with the scene is the lack of 'you don't shit gold' and lack of tysha dialog.

midway season 2

everything after Purple wedding was either led down or fanservis

>no loras
straight

>When did it lose you?
When was the """"fight"""" with the Sand Snakes? Because then

It never really recovered from he red wedding. It lost the profound Euro-fantasy vibethen and descends into GRRM’s plainly American liberalism and fetish for lesbians, feminism and brown nipples. High cheese factor with Dorne too.

>was a better villain than Tywin
Well, yeah. Tywin wasn't a villain

Halfway through season 2 when I realized the cast was garbage outside of the famous actors they'd already killed

>>Oysters, clams and cockles
I can't hate that. It was comedy gold here when that episode played

When they started teleporting everywhere

This. The first 4 seasons it takes months to get anywhere. Everybody learned instant transmission at the start of season 5

season 4 episode 10 when they dropped the plotline about the Tyrion's first wife during the Tyrion vs Tywin scene

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When STANNIS died.

When Stannis burned Shireen.

The Sand Snakes was a sign of things to come.

Remember that season where Jaime and Bronne had a wacky misadventure in Dorne?

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End of S4 was the start of the downfall.

After S7 I honestly thought it couldn't get any worse, but boy did they prove me wrong with this last episode.

it would've been redeemed if Bronn actually killed of the snakes in this scene

Battle of bastards
High sparrow and Cersei allahu akbaring the sept
Olenna death
Spoils of war
These just kept me going, despite the fact, that

What season did Tyrion go to that island on a boat with cuckman? I remember missing the episode but hearing there were zombies or some shit in the water. I never watched it again.

Noo can't do that, then we'd lose the bad poosy line and those tits.

Dorne, that's more or less the point when the show turned full on YASSS QUEEN

I don't even remember the sand snakes subplot. Remind me why it was so bad?

>imagine if this actually happens
>imagine if prince Doran actually thanked Bronn for it because he expected treason
>imagine if he executed Ellaria Sand and send Trystane and Myrcella back home
>imagine having Dornish troops fighting for Cersei during the final battle and not dropping Dorne plotline to shit

when snow "died".

I watched up to the end of season four and then stopped caring. Didn't watch it for a few years following that, before downloading the seasons I'd missed and watching them pretty quickly whilst skipping through anything boring (Dany scenes, Arya scenes and Dorne stuff for a start). In theory that was to catch up to watch the final season, yet I haven't bothered to watch any of it so far.

Somewhere aaround s6
I remember being halfway into an episode and having a sudden feeling of shame.

A few episodes into whatever season was after the red wedding. Just felt bored because I thought they would keep killing off any character they make you become invested in shortly after they begin to develop. Heard that Joffrey was killed off soon after I stopped watching which confirmed what I thought.

Stannis "The rightful king will return but first his daughter must burn" Baratheon

when stannis died
and
when it wasn't this
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The plane started its crash landing mid season 5 till it reached the crashsite called Season 8 Episode 3.. from here on out there is nothing left to do except to wait and watch the wreckage burn to the ground.

Littlefingers death. I didn't even care about Littlefinger it was just so bad.

never, i still like it
t. not a crybaby manchild

Loras is also so handsome.

The story went off the rails. There was no logic to characters' actions, no repercussions to faulty decisions, a lot of things didn't really make sense, shitty, one-dimensional characters etc

>mfw I saw The Hound comeback after they lead viewers to believe he died from serious wounds he had

The Hound. When The Hound came back from the dead, I knew I should stop right there and not waste anymore time. I knew that somehow they would mess up his character since they were at that point making things up as they went along when they brought him back.
I view everything around season 5 and forward as fan fiction. Completely non-canon. Did they in fact ruin The Hound's character? Did he ever see Arya again?

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Same for me. Though I thought the red wedding was okish for what it was. The hooker gf of the dwarf turning traitor was the point where I felt that too many characters were killed for no particular reason and letting even more subplots go nowhere.
Haven't watched the recent season, but after reading this I won't bother anytime soon. I'm a huge fantasy and undead fag though, so I'll definitely do it in the future.

Never, because i'm not a nitpicky contrarian faggot. Probably the 2nd best show ever made, behind The Sopranos.

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Halfway through season 1

It's a gradual decline.

>Dorne condensed

okay

>Sand Snakes completely suck

okay

>Arya does stupid shit in Braavos

uhh

>Stannis fucking dies

I get it, but what's going on here?

And it just got worse and worse. It all started though with pic related.

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Based.
The quality took a massive dive after season 4 but its still one of the best shows on television.

They just did a shit job at showing time. In the books characters either state 'We've been traveling for months since location X (last chapter)', mention events of a previous chapter (since news takes time to travel, it's weeks later), or outright state that it's been a year or two. The show did it fine for the first few seasons (because they had the books), but later show just couldn't handle it for some reason. You'd think that writing/producing for 4 years would allow you to understand the material and the world you're working with, but apparently not. The most egregious teleporting started with S6, the logistics stopped making sense.

Stannis the mannis

Season 5.

Those are book events though, events that happened before the TV show was even announced. The tywin/shae stuff was to highlight tywins hypocrisy. Not sure why the purple wedding would be a surprise, man characters want/need to off joff to advance their goals, he's also too unstable/uncontrollable.

I forget didn't the show make Jamie present for purple wedding for some fucking reason?

Fagoots

t. meta-contrarian faggot

as someone who very recently started binging this show and just finished season 5, i am VERY concerned for the future of my viewing experience

Season 5 is a pile of trash, the show never truly recovered.

Bad poosy perhaps?

2014

the red wedding. it was like a big plot reset so i checked out.

Not a bookfag. Came into the series very late and binged the first seven seasons. Somewhere around season 5 I noticed the change of tone. There was something off. It got gradually worse until season 7 which was almost unwatchable. There were no dialogues, just people grunting short sentences at each other. Cut! Intelligent people like Varys and Tyrion never said or did anything intelligent anymore. No twists, nothing unexpected. The show was now obviously being written for teenagers and brainlets. It's Michael Bay garbage.

Seriously, if you just switch Lord of the Seven Kingdoms with Class President and make the necessary alterations, this would be a high school tv show that not a single adult would watch. Or admit to watching. That's the level right now.

Season 3

They started giving the fans what they want.

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I love how even Bronn's actor looks like he's getting cringe up his asshole when she uttered that line with his"what the fuck" look

When they played evil villain song during Stannis' march on wildlings.

This.

There was some wankery in Season 4, but nothing unforgivable. Season 5 was fucking trash.

season 2

almost as soon as they ran out of book material i noticed an immediate drop in dialog and writing quality

the sand sneks is where i accepted the show was no longer good, cercei blowing up the sept is where i started hatewatching

Have sex.

Wow this would've been actually good

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When they added a scene where Tyrion offers Shae a luscious life far away with no string attached was the moment I lost all faith I had on D&D. The scene makes no sense, it makes all characters seem stupid and it actually serves no purpose. While it had been at least a pretty faithful adaptation with the changes making some sense this was change for the sake of change while actively making a good story a lot worse. It's the point where the answer to "why would she ever do that" went from something sensible to "because we wrote it that way".

Then it just got worse and worse. Last season was unwatchable shit so I stopped watching.

When the hound starts seeing things in the fire.

He's the only character I give a shit about and ofc it had to be him who gets a retarded vision.

The sand snakes and their actors were cringe inducing. The plot itself was lethargic

They left out tysha because the lemmings at Burlington bar wouldn’t remember who that was

Once they started to divert too much from the books, around s05. I watched 6 so I could talk with friends/collegues about it. Haven't watched 7, yet.

Stopped caring after S3.

completely?
well last sunday
also: youtube.com/watch?v=GI7zy1PTMp0

When Cersei blew up the cept, so many characters were wiped out and we were left with the retards we have now.

She's spanish they all look like that

They left her out because it sets up the expectation that Tyrion would then go off to try find her and leaves what seems like a plot thread hanging.

Maybe they could have redone it for Tywin to tell Tyrion that she's dead which further encourages him to kill him

I think the last episode that I thought was good, start to finish, was Hardhome in Season 5. It felt very much like a horror movie, seeing the blizzard overtake the Wildling village and hearing the screams be silenced one by one was so fucking cool.

However, the show very shortly after fucked up the Stannis plotline, and the resulting shit in Season 6/7 was awful.

tl;dr Season 5 was when it started to become poodoo.

early season 5

when they cut Tysha and "wherever whores go" from Tywin's death, effectively destroying Tyrion's character

Same.

>evil scene
>Stannis music plays

Last season. At last the 6th season had Hardhome, but the last one had nothing kino, nothign good.

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arya not getting killed by the faceless men after fucking up once

When was that?

I remember all the fucking cuts in oberyn vs mountain and briene vs hound being something that made it seem that show has little going for it action-wise. Then snakes, twenty good men, tyrell castle siege, complete disregard of logistics made it clear that show doesn't care about feeling grounded, it's all about them wanting to deliver a punchline with complete disregard for the setup. It's more than clear to me now with d&d interviews after the episodes air: in the show itself they depict something muddled like arya getting nerfed for no reason and then in the interview they go all "yeah we made it clear that actually after she hit her head she couldn't be as effective at killing zombies!".

Fuck my memory, Hardhome was in the 5th season, so it lost me from the 6th to the 7th

Agreed, had to walk out of the cinema as soon as they showed this scene.

So nothing to do with the show? Okay

The show died with Tywin.

sand snakes

I believe it was when Danny launched barrels containing broken chains/shackles at a slave city. Season 4?

It was so on the nose and self-righteous. How would a slave immediately understand the symbolism of what she was doing? They might have used different chains in that city.

It was the equivalent of launching copies of Das Kapital at Wall Street and everyone killing their bosses

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Season 2 episode 1 when they started butchering one of my favorite characters in the books (Stannis).

Nobody else? Although this was more of a death rattle

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Tyrion's character has been pointless since Tywin's death.
He just drinks and makes jokes.
Fucking hell. He should be haunted by the memory of his father.
>When I die, bury me with a crossbow, so I can thank the Father above as I did the father below.
vs
>It's a good thing you're not a man because you dont have a weanis beanis :)

>autistic
>crushed Mance Rayder’s host
>btfo his faggot little brother
>based Davos and semen demon Melly
>autistic

Technically the first episode of season 1. I hated all the character castings. Armor design,set design it was all garbage compared to the book and how i envisioned it

But then i forced myself to watch it and it was pretty good but got shitty around

Season 6

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When rich people in masks butchered the unsullied.

I'd probably have a different outlook if I had read the books but I think the moment that really soured me was the Winterfell story in season 7.

Season 4: egregiously unnecessary changes from the source material.
>The mutineers subplot is an obvious midboss to keep Jon "busy" and the Night's Watch story "exciting" (by turning it into an action movie)
>The absurd Yara/Theon rescue plot (first major case of teleportation)
>The pacing of the Littlefinger/Lysa reveal is completely fucked (and "Only Cat" changed to "Your sister" because...?)
>Tyrion's fanfiction speech about grubs or whatever + no Tysha reveal
>No Lady Stoneheart, no BwB

The changes in and of themselves are not the worst thing, but indicate a general decline in writing quality that really shows in season 5.

They started going full blown fanfic mode after s4.
The writers are mediocre, why would I care about their stories?

Whats interesting is even tho theres massive amount of backlash about s8e3, even reddit has people being apologetic over it and it has what 8.8 on imdb?
How many 10/10 have they bought? The congress needs to crack down on that shit.

????

I can tell you've never been to Spain.

Spanish are like Dornishmen in the books. You've got really Aryan and Celtic looking types. (Mostly in the north). The swarthier type you posted in the south. And a Mediterranean intermediate throughout, which is the most common type.

The idea that they all look like Antonio Banderas swarthy types is a stereotype.

Pic: Spanish royal family.
You can actually see the three types here in a single family.

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shireen and mycellas deaths
felt so cheap and stupid

It didnt lose anyone this is the thing, viewership is skyrocket this season, big biiiig success

Sry incel, feminine girls had to make way for the kweens
have sex

same

Shireen death and hodor backstory were two holy shit moments told them by GRRM

1. The Sand Snakes
2. The quest beyond the wall to capture a zombie
3. The Night King's pussy death

I wonder who could be behind this post

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Is this the time where burgerclaps try to tell other countries how they are?

>stereotype is the most common type

geez louise who would have thought that

I quit the episode before when I heard this was going to happen. Hardhome was a good episode but the Stannis thing was just the last straw for me and I realized there were almost no characters I still had any interest in following.

Yep. I can forgive season 4 for lack of stoneheart etc, but season 5 ep1 is a huge drop in quality

When they fucked up with Arya in Braavos and especially when they ended Littlefinger the way they did.

Agreed.

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The second episode.

Not that user, but it should be common knowledge that the phenotypes in Spain and most of Europe is very varied.
You can easily find Nordic-looking people in Spain, Italy, Poland, Russia etc where it is usually memed that they all look like le 56%, asian mongrel or whatever.

>I just started the show
Dude stop now. It's better to read the books. I've had them laying around which reminds me, now it's a good time to read it since they botched the latest episode too. The show completely botched character motivations and simplied them into good/bad. Anything the showrunners didn't like was bad and their favourite characters got whitewashed into goody two shoes. Just read the books instead, man.

When stannis burned his only child alive because it was a bit cold

You do know this is cannon right ? it happens in the books.

oh i'm aware

Not that user but why would that matter?

s8e3

omg if they had all died while he was running to bran. that would have been GOAT greatest of all time writing

>>No Lady Stoneheart, no BwB

this significantly rearranged a lot of characters and began a big divergence from the books

i wonder what gurm told them about this plotline that made them completely avoid it?

Reee no one has told you the deep reason in the content (leaving aside how the content was being made)
The problem is that the first few seasons were like the visual metaphor in the introduction. A world was set up, wound like clockwork and then just allowed to run. So we'd see the geography, see the players and then things would just happen in a logical way, quite amorally. This felt very "real" and lifelike and it was gripping because you really had no idea what was going to happen.
D&D did fuck up smaller aspects like dialogue, battle tactics, coherence, locations of characters, repetition of events etc.
But the real problem was that they shifted the clockwork nature of the GoT universe to a more standard structure where there's a clear good and evil, goodies fighting baddies, and fate selects the good protagonists to win.

Friendly reminder that Hardhome was just as shit as the rest of the fifth season if not worse. It completely changes everything that we've already been shown about the wights and the others without actually moving the story anywhere. It's action for the sake of action without any thought besides and while doing that it manages to take away the budget from the other big action scenes that are actually relevant to the story.

Littlefinger got underpowered and made into a retard in the show. In the books he's a genius who probably didn't even kill Joffrey. Iirc, Joffrey probably did choke on pie, and then Finger used the opportunity to indebt Sansa to him.
If JRRM had any say in the show, Baelish will have gotten a faceless man to take the fall for him. But it's all going to crap anyway and the fat man will probably heart attack soon enough. At least his notes might contain some answers.
Littlefinger is possibly a self-insert by JRRM and he's obviously the most compelling character. His perspective "everyone's your enemy, everyone's your friend; every possible series of events is occurring" is basically the way the books work.

season 6

A Feast for Crows and A Dance of Dragons being split by geographical location.

Season 4 when Jaime started fucking Cersei on Tywins body and Brienne conveniently running into Arya and the Hound then girl power him.

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Samwell is his self-insert.

With you up til season 8. You have to admit the writing has fallen to comical badness

That was classic throne kino
Thrones is supposed to have unexpected things and clockwork machinations

when they didnt elaborate on the 7 kingdoms tax policy within the first episode

Have Aryan nordicism

This desu. Wish i would have just stopped. Could have saved myself a lot of groans. I'm glad i put my foot down this season

>assmad Stannis fans bitchy

It really is amazing just how many self insert as him not realizing his major flaws.

Stannis would have been a terrible king.

Shireen's still alive in the book, and while I can see her get burned it will most likely happen unbeknownst to Stannis.
Him giving the order to burn Shireen is the most retarded thing they could have done

Maybe. I didn't get the feel that that was the self insert in the books. Finger is just so much more of a compelling character than anyone else.

youtube.com/watch?v=cGh3s0lPxCQ
The above is what would have happened in old thrones.

Personally I liked Stannis because of his flaws, not because he would make a good king. I don't think any of the characters in this would have made a good king, they are all autistic to some degree, with the possible exception of Jon.

You didn't expect that, so it's good writing in my opinion.

>not supporting Danaerys before she turned into a cuck
So silly.
She went from being a benevolent terror to this wishy washy mess.
She also refused to use her dragons for some reason.
"Well your grace it looks like subversives from cities you once captured are fucking with you. What should we do?"
"Oh nothing, I'll just marry one."
Boooo
A targ would have just set them all on fire.
Ruined it for me.
Imho the Targs are supposed to be crypto-Jews anyway.

Might as well just drop a meteor on cersei then to finish her off, no one would expect it so it would be automatically 10/10 episode

sup dabid

sup stephen

Just read the books. Or watch season 1 if you want but don't go further.

European royal families are German.

Samwell is a hundred percent the self insert in the books. During an interview at the 2014 San Diego Comic-Con, Martin suggested as much, noting that if he were in the story he’d “probably be Samwell Tarly.”

>“He’s a great character,” Martin said. “Tyrion might be who I want to be, but Sam is probably closer to who I actually am. The fat kid who likes to read books and doesn’t like to go up a lot of stairs.”

>“I am attracted to bastards, cripples and broken things, as is reflected in the book,” as Martin said at the 2014 Edinburgh international books festival. “Outcasts, second-class citizens for whatever reason. There’s more drama in characters like that, more to struggle with.”

Also Samwell and Randyl's relationship is meant to mirror George's relationship with his father.

Permanently? Last episode. It ultimately didn't matter how full retard the politics got because the White Walkers were destined to turn that shit on itself all at once anyway. When D&D's retardation eliminated the point of the entire series, there's no going back. It's fucked.
I'll still watch it for the memes, but I have no actual interest in the story anymore.

Thanks for the info.

He's right about those characters more interesting weird how they've all been cucked to make way for manic pixie assassin girls in the show

Don't get me wrong definitely some of George in Littlefinger. But Samwell and Tyrion seem the more likely contenders. And Samwell the most because I don't see George writing himself as a political mary sue the way Tyrion and Littlefinger are. He is a bit more grounded about himself as a person.

Jamie is a great example. As soon as he loses his hand he becomes the most interesting character in the books.

start of 6th season I think

He is alive in the books too.

Arya arc happens

It is done way better in the books though.

And, royal families hardly count as a reflection of "their" countries ethnicity. Due to centuries of inbreeding between all noble houses between England and Russia, Norway and Greece.

post red wedding has been pretty sleep

Is he? It's been some time since I've read them but I rememeber some other dude strolling around with his helmet and some claim that he's dead (though no evidence he isn't either so basically schroedinger's hound)

We don't really know if he's dead in the books.

After the episode where Joffrey died I was satisfied so I never watched it again
Felt like a bad guy died and that a lot of shitty drama was gonna start so I called it a day, no idea what season or episode that was, so can't give specifics

It had been dipping in quality from season 2 but Dorne was the last straw

It's sword and sorcery, Barron

Entire city should turn on her though. They just nuked their religions home base. Everyone sees it's fucking wildfire, the only ones with access to that are the royals (and mages). As you said killing some storylines with mass death is a staple, but it just didn't go anywhere, no immediate and lasting consequences. Cersei's whole thing is being a mad king expy, and the shit she's done is the kind of shit that Jamie killed him for. Fanatic plotline shouldn't have ended there, it should have galvanized them.

But that's mostly me complaining because the show reset jamie's character development post capture/hand loss, instead of following through on it.

Strike 1

Tyrion killing Tywin FOR SHAE

Strike 2

Stannis burning Shireen

Strike 3

SHANSHA PLEASE!

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This

She's not Spanish.

>but Dorne was the last straw
I don't even remember what happens in Dorne in either the book or the show. Other than titties in the jail cell scene and BAD PUSSY line.

same

Ok what the fuck is the obssesion with the whore? Tyrion was still fucked up for the events of the series, it still works.

Wouldn't Myrcella be queen instead of Cersei then?

You do know he carried the kings landing scenes?

S04E02

Yep, pretty much.

Fpbp

When Roz died

Last episode I watched

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I'm a brainlet by Yea Forums standards, I noticed the first cracks by around when they started doing all the stupid shit in that foreign town/Bravos(?)
The episode that made me stop caring about the show was the one where they went beyond the wall and captured the first WW. Honestly if you couldn't notice that they were willing to bend and break rules and established conventions to make the plot do whatever they want then I don't see how last episode did either. I felt sick after seeing that. I felt like a fool for being invested and caring about the story and deep diving into the characters/houses.
Now I just want it to be over.

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Blessed rape

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Stop being contrarians, everyone knows the show only truly went to shit after 6x10.

>taking his "Vengeance, justice, fire and blood" line and giving it to the garbage characters who murdered him
I will never stop being angry.

I think around the time Dany went to Westeros

when the scientologists leaked episode 1-4 of season 5 and they were all awful, thankfully having to wait wait another month or so for the next episode helped the transition from disappointed former fan to cautiously optimistic hatewatcher

This.

Season 4 is where it went from having a solid foundation in history via "war of roses" theft, to being daytime soap opera-tier womyn pwwr trash.

Prologue of the first book.

Will never watch that jew show

I quit the episode before the Red Wedding because it sucked compared to the books. People have been calling me a weirdo for years because of that but I'm glad I'm finally vindicated. Dumb and Dumber simply can't write and the series is an insult to the source material

/thread

Stannis getting btfo

Season 2

When Brienne of fucking Tarth beat the Hound.

Fuck you and your grrrrrl power rubbish. In the books she's a below average swords"person"

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Still watching out of morbid curiosity so didn't technically lose me yet.

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Around season 4 or 5 i think. The source material had just run out and D&D hackery started to show. While in every previous season the characters have dealt with events that radically changed their status quo there was this season where literally nothing happened and every mayor character was put on stand by or started to repeat themselves in the most derivative way possible. I think Daenerys had just took Meren or something and then they suddenly sent her to conquer the Dothraki (again) and to do so she sets herself on fire (again). Sansa who seemed to have evolved with Little finger´s help into a political animal and seemed finally ready to play the game and have scheemes of her own by manipulating the kid was sent to Ramsey (Geofrey number 2) and her character arc stalled.
This was around the same time of the hold the door thing/ first uncle Benjen deus ex bullshit if not around that season they didn´t even bother to show what Bran was doing.
At this point they had also given all the clues of Jon being a Targaryen except for directly showing it on Bran´s vision. They where just trying to steatch it and not reveal it but it was so fucking obvious. I think this was the season he died at the end... but since it was so obvious who he was anyone able to think knew he was not really dead.
I can´t remember what was happening at this stage on King´s Landing, i think it was the high sparrow shit but i can be a season off. I think this is the season before Arya starts her training too. I remember i was tired of waiting for the moment she decided to go to Bravos. Anyways, it was around there. Little did i know that it was just only the begining, that after that they´ll rush events, character development and relationships because they had thrown a whole season worth time and budget to the trash, that they would use Deus ex Benjen once more and all that. Never thought they would do the Arya thing though because there is bad writting and there is that.

Me too, can't even remember why.

I never got into it.
All of my friends back then were telling me how I'm missing out on The Best Show Ever.
I'm just here because of the sheer butthurt that erupted these past few days.

same here

>The unfeeling undead king smirks at the camera
More people should be angry about this.

My first severe disappointment was the depiction of the North of the Wall but I was done when they went to Dorne and butchered that whole subplot.

Season 6
it was shit since season 4

When they changed the reasons for Tyrion to kill Tywin.

Then when I read that D&D would not bring Stoneheart because the actress was too expensive for something temporary (too expensive? She’s Hermiones mother ffs)

Then Barristan getting killed by a bunch of nobles who never fought before and the Dorne fuckup. That’s when I really stopped to care

>Then Barristan getting killed
oh wow, I completely forgot about this.

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Exactly! Holy shit that Ramsay scene where he is naked and Asha has full armor and still runs away, it’s the moment you realize it d&d will fuck everything up.

That was so fucked up. But it shows how bad they are in delivering something after raising the expectations.

Barristan is the best fighter in the world and dies... in a fight against people who never fought before.

In the show he's actually shit fighter full of shit who may or may not have been great before which means that Joffrey was actually completely in the right letting him go.

when they had stannis kill shireen
only managed like 5 episodes after this

season 5 episode 1.

red flags were raising during season 4, probably even before then to the more astute like this anonim just bitter that something that could have been so good become so senselessly fucking shit. with jews you lose.

GRRM will die a sad man for allowing his work to be perverted like this.

Errr. Actually no. And Joffrey let him go to put Jaime in his position

Same. I knew I didn't like rape, so I could tell I wasn't the target audience.

Joffrey let him go because he was old and useless and he was proved right the instant Selmy first had to fight untrained bums. All straight from the show.