>hey guys, i just finished reading the script >i think it's great and all that arya gets to kill him but im not doing anything really >right, but its just that last time dany saved the day and before that sansa... >i mean, even the little girl gets to do something, she kills a giant... >what?! no, ive got no problem with women. its just that this whole nightking thing has been my story >i get the whole subversion thing but how about i like fight the him for a bit? >just a little bit? ive been practicing for years and everything >no? okay...what about some of those white walkers, i mean they are gonna die anyways so why no- >how about just one? >okay...can i at least like fight the dragon a bit? >oh...i guess i can do that... just scream at it... >starts sobbing
what did kit do to daniel and david? did he eat their kids or something? why are they doing this to jon?
>Khaleesi, I'm about to die because of the wounds I garnered in my selfless defense of you >Please Khaleesi, just listen. All I want is a taste of pussy just a taste. Khaleesi, please sit on my face so my nose is in your butthole and I can rest my tongue on your pusy. >Khaleesi, wait, please one more thing. After 30 seconds spin around 180 degrees so I can do the same thing with the holes reversed. >Khaleesi...
>go back to watching castle black attack episode >Grenn reciting the vows as they're staring down a fucking giant >DROP THE SCYTHE BOYS >that transition of Jon going from the top of the wall into the keep
>the night king is about to win >dramatic music swells >arya stark appears behind him >hits him in the balls >*record scratch* >everyone says "OOOOOOOOOH" in unison >all the guys cross their legs (except bran) in sympathy pain >ghost puts his paws over eyes and whimpers >daenerys quips "THAT'S GOTTA HURT" >close up on the night king's face with him cross eyed >he says in a silly high pitched voice while looking in the camera >"Wowie zowie! Riiiiiiiiight in my snowballs!" >Cut to grrm not writing anything >"Nuff said!" >credits
Anyone else feel like Emilia is one of the rare genuine people in Hollywood despite being beautiful? Usually good looks tend to turn people into abrasive cunts, but from all the interviews and behind the scenes material she seems really down-to-earth, she makes fun of herself, she doesn't keep up an act etc. Or am I being biased?
George RR Martin told D&D that Arya kills NK but forgot to tell that first NK kills Jon during the battle and that Jon was not brought back from the dead to kill NK, but to impregnate Dany with pureblood Targaryen succesor (which he did before the battle)
she also nearly died from a brain aneurysm, shit like that is humbling
Juan Ward
No matter what I say i cant get my brother to break the conditioning. He thinks the episode was good and hes buying into the """Easter eggs""" left throughout the seasons hinting they set up arya to do it all along. He also buys into the thought of Jon being the one to kill him all along is boring and predictable
Anthony Murphy
yea i mean eventually they're gonna get through but it's gonna take a while
>Sam, did i ever tell you about Theon Greyjoy? >he grew up with my family but betrayed us during the war, killing thousands of our people, sacking winterfell, and attempted to kill me afterwards >he and i share a bond, watching the rape, it was beautiful >every night i watch him watching it from the door >in the end i got him killed cause i couldn't be bothered to tell him that Arya was about to kill the night king >he was a good man
This scene lacked that gut punch feel of the books. They should have been on horseback.
Adrian Diaz
>season 1 where the Dothraki were people with personalities >Rakharo looking up to Jorah like a mentor, learning about armor, swapping stories Why did they give up on this kind of thing
Levi Butler
Could they not have retreated from winterfell and somehow slowly go further south, having to make stands at various castles along the way south with their numbers slowly dwindling. The night king of course letting this happen, partly playing with them but also just to gather bodies as he makes his way further down south. They reach kings landing with less than half the army they started out with. Cersei can see the horrors of the long night, the dead and the winter encroaching south. She decides to continue her decline into madness and either sets her army on the heroes. The golden company on one side and the dead on the other. That or she destroys kings landing with wildfire. Then azor ahai happens or something
Bran spend 6 seasons crawling from Winterfell to beyond the wall and what did he learn?
Why Hodor says Hodor Jon's real parents which Sam figured out in the Citadel anyway. Bran didn't even tell Jon. He wasn't even useful with insider information because Tormund is the one that told Jon the location of the NK and they only have a day to prepare
Jose Garcia
it's the shitty telltale game tie-in where they just copied the Stark house and made it smaller
something something hidden grove, something something inspired by the tunnels and horn of winter that aren't going to appear anyway
William Watson
He didn't win that Emmy that they wanted. That's it.
Ethan Perry
That's when from when men watched the show.
Joshua Johnson
if the battle went something like this, it would unironically redeem the show just by sending millions of casuals REEEing at all their favorite characters dying to a music montage
Nathaniel Morris
what easter eggs?
Dominic Martin
Just let him have it. There's no point in making him see reality and it seems like he enjoys mentally filling in the plot holes himself.
this was so bad that it makes the simple plotline of jon being the ultimate hero and killing the night king in a 1v1 look like utter kino in comparison
>Figure it out yourself >Themes are for 8th grade reports >Goddamit I want a zombie polar bear
Isaac Cruz
Everything happened how the writers wanted it to happen to have their idiot subversion moment and to hell with all previous character development, world consistency or logic.
It's an amateur hack job.
Ryan Martin
I have to go now.
Connor Walker
Why are they so Emmy horny still? Nobody cares about that shit in current year.
Jackson Martin
Sauron was a good manager who knew how to bring out the talent in his people.
Caleb Gomez
>ARCHERS AND CATAPULTS IN FRONT >PIKES IN THE BACK
Carson Parker
I think the episode should have played out the same exact way, except we don't see the scenes in the crypts for the entire episode and after they defeat the NK they go down there and see everyone dead.
Kayden Perez
They've always shat on Jon and made him dumber than he's supposed to be. They cut out him growing harsher as a leader and giving useful tactical info to Stannis for example. They're the epitome of unprofessional.
I wonder how Arya ever killed NK. She was full danger in library with like 5 zombies, of after killing 10 zombies in second, but then she just jumps out of nowhere and kills NK and all others? All because she were what, a year, in Braavos? Arya is good character, but this scene breoke the camles straw.
S08E03 is one of the worst things in television EVER
>That page count of 542 finished pages in January 2006 could not have been much different from what I'd had in June 2005, when I split the books. >And the year or so that followed proved the folly of my prediction. The next partial I sent to Bantam is dated October 2007, and it is 472 pages long. Yes, in the year and a half between the two partials, I had managed to UNwrite some seventy pages. I was doing a lot more revision and rewriting -- and restructuring -- during this period than I was making forward progress. >But then I hit a good spell. In March 2008 I delivered another partial, and this one was 596 pages long. In May 2008, another: 684 pages this time. In December 2008, 774 pages, After that progress remained slow, but fairly steady. I won't say I wasn't still tearing things out, rewriting, restructuring, changing my mind... I was... but I was forging ahead as well, as the partials I sent to my editors testify. In September 2009, I sent them 998 pages. In January 2010 I passed the 1000 pages mark, and delivered 1038 pages. Now I was picking up some steam again. June of 2010, a partial of 1028 pages. August of 2010, 1332 pages, December of 2010, 1412 pages. By March of 2011, Kong was screeching and the biplanes were in the air, and I sent in the final partial, which weighed in at 1571 pages... but I still had some incomplete chapters, some that remained very rough, some that I didn't know whether to include or not. It was those that pushed the final count over 1600 and up near 1700 before the editorial changes and final sweat that I've detailed up above. That's a fascinating insight into GRRM's writing process. You have the first two years where the book's length barely fluctuates, while in 2010 he yeets out 300 fucking pages in two months.
You heard me right, Khaleesi. Put all of the Dothraki at the front of the army, every single one we have. It might seem like suicide, but I assure you, their arakhs are good enough weapons. I'll lead their charge into the undead horde myself. They shall beat them back, or die trying. >looks directly at the camera There is a danger to Westeros far greater than the White Walkers or the dead, and we have a responsibility to protect our lands from those that would ruin them. The Andals of old called it "The First Man's Burden." Myself, I just call it as I see it: the responsibility of the Westerosi to protect their people. After the battle is over, we cannot allow foreign savages to sow disorder and fear. The rapists, the pillagers, the murderers, the Dothraki are all of those... It's our responsibility to civilize them. Alas, we cannot, and so they shall die in battle or dangle from the weirwood tree. I will have every single Dothraki in this army dead by sunrise, and may the wights tear me to pieces this very night if I'm wrong.
>Dillane openly shat on the books and the show >admitted to not watching it or even reading any parts of the script that aren't his >said he had no idea what was happening on set and found the story confusing >still felt shafted and hoped he survived and was the winner in the end Heh, even Stannis needs to eat
Killing Jorah was a good decision, he is too good to see how this shitty series ends. He was chucked enough already.
Easton King
>In all seriousness, can the show be redeemed in the last 3 episodes? No. And anyone that says "If Dany dies XD" is missing that the moral core of the show has been completely irreparably corrupted.
Jace Richardson
Realistically how many rotting corpses are outside Winterfell right now?
Grayson Clark
>karhold >carhold >car hold
literally a garage, well played george.
Evan Morales
>''''''''''I'm not a fighteh''''''''' inb4 sneaky Davos takes the Iron Throne
Gavin Robinson
I'm not too annoyed by the shot trench. They only had a day or two to prepare. Digging trenches is a bit hard
Brayden Collins
Wait. Theon charges the NK, the spear is immediately taken out of his hand, snapped in half, and shoved into Theon. But when Arya jumps him, the NK just stares at her for a while and doesn't even try to restrain her hands or take her weapon.
Noah Campbell
>Cersei and her armies manage to kill off Jon, Dany, the dragons, the northern forces etc >Bran is observing from nearby >gets up from his wheelchair and his eyes turn white >walks out onto the battlefield and raises his arms >an ice storm forms as all the dead are raised >end show
You're forgetting the part where he put a blunt piece of wood straight through his armour and deep into his stomach.
You'd think with that power he'd have broken Arya's neck on impact.
Robert Lewis
The WWs barely even invaded Westeros. Everyone south of Winterfell will laugh his ass off when someone tries to convince them that 'white walkers' were ever a threat. Everyone who ignored the threat was completely right to do so.
It's probably because in the beginning you only have piles and piles of notes that can't be just translated into book pages. Those need to be written from that then. And get rewritten and sorted and restructured again and again until the final idea and threading is set and the real writing can begin.
Cooper Wright
Why didn't they send their skirmishing cavalry out days ahead of time? They could have been performing hit and run attacks on the army of the dead. Their fast cavalry tactics would have allowed them to harrass the dead without getting overwhelmed by numbers.
A frontal charge of a mass of undead should have been performed by the heavy cavalry of the Vale, who are better trained in maneuver tactics and could have up-armored their horses with obsidian barding to make their charges really effective.
Also, charges should be performed in either a glancing or pinwheel formation, rather than head-on; never get bogged down in melee. The enemy army will not break, so it's more important to win by attrition.
>Night King is canon strong enough to 1 shot a Dragon >doesnt use the same strength to instantly snap the neck of the 100 lb girl who tried to kill him
Austin Sanchez
if qyburn had a masterplan or alternatively something interesting with bran whoever lives or sits on the throne is irrelevant to me
Connor Walker
He doesnt have to at that point. He can just wait. But he could've done that at Winterfell too, so...
Jaxon Cruz
so, when the show ewnds and i am back to the eternal wait for TWOW, what fantasy series should i pick up next?
Malazan Book of the Fallen The Kingkiller Chronicle Mistborn
The third episode made the first two worse somehow, all these characters talking seemingly saying their last goodbyes, and in episode 3 they almost all survive, seriously everyone around the fireplace survived.
Cersei should win. Based on the bullshit tht happened in the last episode she clearly made the smart move staying home and should be rewarded for it. Or Dorne comes out of nowhere and fucks everyone up the end.
I don't really give a shit, just watching to wrap up the series at this point.
Lucas Martin
Plot armor
Ayden Perry
I'm not super familiar with the lore.
Coule Euron be Azor Ahai?
Henry Ross
it was me user, my real filenames were different
i still remember when we got shadowbanned after s07e04
Don't forget that > his touch turns human babies into undead wizards > he is strong enough to no-scope a flying dragon with a javelin > but he doesn't freeze Arya or turn her into a white walker on touch, and he doesn't snap her neck More power to our Arya! You go girl!
This is a good point. It now makes no sense any other ending than cersei winning, because she took a tactical gamble and it paid of, they have no army left and should lose
But arya will nothing personnell her and the show will go even further downhill from where it already is.
Easton Butler
somebody got smashed
William Flores
Based
Jacob Young
reminder that the NK collapsed like a wet Linguine
It's not Jon's way to punish children for the sins of their fathers.
Jaxson Howard
can you please outline the process which helped you arrive at this conclusion?
Carson Cruz
What makes it worse is that they had Bran who could've warged into a raven and provided detailed info on the size, location and composition of the enemy army.
Joseph Robinson
He brought back Beric so he could be there to save arya from the dead, ensuring she would be able to kill the NK
Carter Sanders
Oh, I see what you mean. But still, that doesn't make any sense. It's not like she can make the knife fall faster. If he noticed her drop it, he had time to move or attempt to swipe the knife out of the air.
Ryder Gonzalez
yeah we get it jorah is a cuckold
Hunter Gonzalez
The whole known world is just a bunch of small islands in a giant lake inside a giant continent. Euron will take the survivors of the show to this giant continent on his newly built ship called the Black Whale.
thats at the same time very stupid, and yet giving the writers much too much credit.
Joseph Butler
even though the episode was retarded, it would have been utterly saved by 2-3 minute montage as jon fought through the chaos as main characters around him died or were about to die, like that moment with sam, but he had no time to help them and had to focus on going forward as characters like brienne/podrick/sam/tormund died, something like shame that jon's journey throughout the series was utterly unimportant
Ian Perez
>i still remember when we got shadowbanned after s07e04 I don't remember that, or never knew about it, but I do remember after we got banned, /got/ moved to /trash/ for a little while
>Her arse sputtered and her eyebrows danced to the symphony
Oliver Allen
She didn't bother to work out for Terminator, turned down the opportunity to train with Arnie, and expressed surprise that she would have to film her own action scenes. She's a vacuous cunt and I hope she goes blind.
bran spared jon, and arya but killed theon because theon deserved to die for what he did. holy shit bros it's all making sense. bran will need to die. dany will do it after she find out they have to kill bran to eliminate the threat for good (it's the twist) jon will kill dany after dany kills bran. this is it lads, this is the end.
Robert Kelly
Stannis was an alright character but doesn't deserve all this spamming desu
Levi Nguyen
This is the only outcome that can save this show. There has to be a point to Bran doing all that shit.
Arya should have died in that moment. The tall white women knight should pulled the dragons attention away so jon could make it away jon kill the NK. Right before the knight girl dies the nk gets killed
Matthew Bailey
>she has no claim whatsoever
Last surviving Lord/Lady of one of the Seven Kingdoms. It's hers by attrition
Jaxon Ross
Fuck off Dabid
Colton King
same as cersei, as long as everyone is dead apparently plebs dont ever riot
Wait, this is a quote from the books, eh? Funny shit.
Parker Barnes
If I were a peasant in Kings Landing, the Queen Mother nuking the Great Sept with wildfire and declaring herself Queen would be a-ok with me. I ain't gonna kick that hornets next.
nah the show has been consistently bad for a while now
Jaxon Bell
Beric being brought back to life for the sole purpose of momentarily distracting the wights from chasing Arya rhymes with Hodor getting time-lobotomised for no other reason than so he can be there to hold the door for Bran to escape, it's pottery
Wyatt Smith
Why didn't Jon light the trench when he was sitting his dragon on the Weirwood forest walls?
Landon Murphy
Lord Royce was last seen in a secret meeting with Sansa before Dany interrupted.
He was absent in the Episode 3 battle.
He has been sent to the Eyrie to ensure that Sweetrobin has an accident.
Gavin Ramirez
it would have sucked more
Oliver Ramirez
but there's nothing to eat because of wars and the queen stuffs her face while using her time to blow up temples instead of thinking about how to find some food also, your daughter got smashed by the flying bell of the exploding temple
William Reed
He didn't even need to throw his sword because he had time to run towards arya and pick her up anyway
This. Although I think Sam should stay alive for the importance of being one of the few people who can confirm Jon's lineage but Ed should have lived through the first wave, and been the one to die when Jon looks at him and presses on toward the NK. Man, anything would have been better than what we got
Show has been like this since S5, there is no hope
Michael Reed
I mean, he has not even began writing A Dream of Spring, how long will that take him? Another 5 years?
He could at least get someone to help him finish... at this point it is just disrespectful to the fans. The HBO show became a disgrace in part because of his laziness.
Robert Miller
:>yfw it was all a ruse and the night king was just a decoy
Aiden Nguyen
>Why didn't.... Dude we got fucking trebuchets positioned IN FRONT of soldiers and a castle, a fucking DEFENSIVE structure, empty during the grand battle because everyone is positioned OUTSIDE of the castle.
What logic are you hoping to find?
Levi Myers
Edd's job was the guard the wall. the wall fell. He died just right, saving that fat useless shit from wights one last time
Juan Jackson
GoT is really just a vanity project for D&D now Its why they're constantly trying to do shit like using 70 stunt horses for a battle or making it the longest ever, filming at some islamic palace or rewriting characters and creating entire plot arcs just to show off their actors. The Dorne plot line for instance was only made to show off Indira Varma
Daniel Martin
I remember when Bran and Arya were cute.
Joseph Turner
>at this point it is just disrespectful to the fans
He's rich and happy, fuck the fans.
Bentley Bell
>Bran asks Jon and Dany to fly him to the NK's lair in the far north >Bran approaches the ice altar and touches it, his eyes go white >Bran begins to smirk as his eyes change from white to blue >"With the combined power of the three eyed raven and the Night King, I AM UNSTOPPABLE" >Dany tells her dragons to dracarys Bran as Jon runs towards him to kill him with his valerian steel sword >Bran laughs as both dragons eyes turn white and dracarys jon with blue fire >Dany screams and runs to jon's side >Bran's laugh becomes hysterical. Jon opens his white eyes and stabs Dany with his sword >Bran stands up and mounts Drogon as zombie Dany and Jon climb on the other one >Bran enters the twilight zone and goes back to the point of every human's birth and touches them when they were newborn babies >Bran flies over Winterfell, the population looks up in horror. Then all their eyes turn blue and they start laughing maniacally
Jacob Myers
it all depends, he shat out the first three in a couple years. im hoping that as soon as he properly converges all the plot line in twow the ending will be quick to write.
the more i think about Jon reeeeing at the dragon, while nearby NK, his arch-enemy growing through 7 season, is being killed... the more I'm stunned by the terrible thing the writers have done.
Lucas Cook
>Themes are for 8th grade reports >Goddamit I want a zombie polar bear can someone show me the origin of these?
Eli White
I'm going to finish it off when he dies. I just need to finish my own series off first.
William Thomas
I wish that would happen so we could kill mudslimes
Juan Gutierrez
He was trapped and about to die. Better to die on your feet and facing your enemy.
Or maybe he was trying to use Targ magic to make the dragon submit?
Aaron Davis
i'm not really a big fan of Jon, he's the bland good guy but if there was any episode where he'd HAVE to be the main character that does everything right, it's this one
sadly we got DABIDed
Nathaniel Parker
>I mean, he has not even began writing A Dream of Spring I feel like I remember him talking about splitting the last book in two since TWOW is confirmed to not resolve shit (based on the number of chapter POVs), and one book is not enough for the climax, conclusion, and aftermath.
Matthew Brown
Jaime has better claim than her, assuming Euron gets killed
Camden Clark
He could very well be "The Prince who was Promised". The prophecy fits.
Kevin King
She can't really do much about it, it's the Pajeet genes.
Noah Gutierrez
Jaime is a Kingsguard, he has no claim to any title
Aaron Bailey
>In all seriousness, can the show be redeemed in the last 3 episodes? Not completely but it can be saved in a lot of parts. We are dealing with DABID's final form so don't get your hopes up.
Isaac Ramirez
Islam aside, the Republic of Enlightenment is a fantastic name for a country.
Grayson Russell
Arya's quest has always been personal, her arc is all about vengeance on the people who have personally wronged her, having her save the world from the Night King doesn't benefit her story in any way and actively shits all over Jon's story AND Bran's
Ryan Adams
Wonder if he is just going to become dead again since the Red God has no more use of him either once the Night King is dealt with.
If he was dead, nobody would have given a shit about the undead and they would have steamrolled Westeros. Just because he didn’t personally kill the NK, doesn’t mean he wasn’t an integral part of it.
I still think the episode is complete dogshit, by the way. I am just not upset that it wasn’t Jon who killed the NK.
Thomas Anderson
she reminds me my highschool crush will never not like her
Matthew Smith
It's ISIS all over again
Asher Scott
He only needed to poke the dragon with his blade and the spell would have dissipated like with any other wight. But he didn't think of that. No one did.
Dominic Martinez
His purpose was to bring a large enough army and get it ready to kill the Night King. He has no function anymore. And probably needs to go die again.
Mason Evans
How do you become a chad with perfect features still at like 40+ like this handsome motherfucker
grantland.com/features/the-return-hbo-game-thrones/ >"When I asked Benioff and Weiss if it was possible to infer any overall intentionality to the upcoming 10 episodes, they sneered. “Themes are for eighth-grade book reports,” Benioff told me. As a critic, I find this frustrating. But I also recognize that this sort of thinking is on the rise."
Nicholas Powell
reminder despite the nonsensical military strategy and the teleports behind you and general bad writing it was still a team effort to take down the night king don't let the shills divide you to get people talking about this bullshit
Xavier Sullivan
when season 5 started, i wasn't really sure what the problem with the show is
but then i saw the behind-the-scenes for episode 3 and dabid straight-up admitting that all decisions were based on 'how much can we do to make the audience ooooh and aaaah as much as possible' and saying that there wasn't any logic in the NK surviving dragonfire or the dothraki charging other than to make their viewer say 'WOW'
the showrunners are directly admitting that they care more about creating a spectacle and something that makes people's emotions stir for a second than sticking to consistency.. and is there really no one that is bothered by this in the writing room? at the sets? what the fuck?
Jacob Torres
Show Euron or book Euron? Book Euron seems more like the type who would join the Others rather than fight them: >Crow’s Eye, you call me. Well, who has a keener eye than the crow? After every battle the crows come in their hundreds and their thousands to feast upon the fallen. A crow can espy death from afar. And I say that all of Westeros is dying. Those who follow me will feast until the end of their days. Show Euron is just some random viking who wants to fuck Cersei.
I like to think the Dothraki just got too hyped up by Mellys flaming sword spell and they charged without orders.
Colton Long
>wowie zowie I can’t believe Bray Wyatt is a targarian.
Alexander Williams
Tommen removed him from the Kingsguard
Evan Nguyen
A Stark should be the one to stop winter.
And we lack options of Ned Stark's flesh and seed.
Isaac Jones
The current anime tone would suit cute. But anime is not filled with ugly trollops. They've got the worst of both worlds at the moment. Ugly girls with shitty nonsensical narratives.
The writing became tailored to the watch party audience. Theyre writing for people with short attention spans, favorite pet characters, and the desire to react to simple and shocking twists.
it's amazing how bad they fucked up and rendered some of the most important storylines a complete and total waste of time, there eas no big purpose to any of them if the night king could've just been defeated by an invisivle teleporting goblin when he is sorrounded by his entire army
anybody else remember ned stark talking about how people caught in winterfell during winter would have to spend the whole winter there because you'd literally die if you tried to leave?
