Rey is no more a Mary Sue in Star Wars than Tony Stark is in the MCU

Rey is no more a Mary Sue in Star Wars than Tony Stark is in the MCU.

Neither prove their powerleves and rely on the viewer being told and buying it, in the MCU by weak technobabble and in TLJ by Luke saying she stronk.

So in the end the reason you faggots bash only Rey is because, you are bigots, you mask you bigotry with this word.

So basically Rian is right.

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Tony Stark is not a Mary Sue. He's a Gary Stu.

(You)

>Tony Stark is a Gary Stu.
>Fucks something up in damn near every film.

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*eats Luke's entire cellar of food*

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>guys Rey is a good character because a capeshit character is the same


Y I k e s

Wrong


The one time I’ll side with capeshitfags is against coping Star Wars fags

Yes, Rey is capeshit tier
Star wars is capehsit tier

The prequels were capeshit before capeshit too for that matter

Rey was 100% a Mary Sue in TFA. They backpedaled in TLJ and now she's not a Mary Sue.

>creates weapons of mass destruction that fall into terrorists hands
>creates an army of robots that go rogue and threaten to destroy everything
>creates an AI and puts it into a superpowerful body and it nearly destroys humanity

What was Rey's biggest mistake again?

Except she is still a huge mary sue.

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>What was Rey's biggest mistake again?

She didn't believe that she's awesome on her own and didn't need Luke's (or any white male) help or training.

Yo. Not at all a MaRey Sue.

But theres no point in comparing the two since Luke admits it in the movie shes way stronger, almost an anomaly like his nephew.

She cracked the fucking mountain under them when started getting tense.

Nah, you’re just a faggot, or a false flagging retard. Either way fuck off

Rey is even bigger Mary Sue than Jon Snow. At least Jon died for his stupidity. But not Rey. She gets a scratch for her stupidity and everyone starts worshipping her anyway.

some bad traits/actions of iron man:
>alcoholic
>douchebag
>egotistical
>makes ultron
>used to sells weapons
>pushes pepper away
>work obsessed
>arrogant
and then rey
>

Everything you just said makes her seem like an even bigger sue, how can you not see that?

Tony Stark has pretty significant flaws despite being a technological genius. Not a Mary Sue

wow what a fucking tard this guy is

It's established that Stark is one of the intelligent minds of his age and he's filthy rich from it. Sure all his power comes from the suit but he built it.
Rey is a nobody, has no force training and no combat experience but the force is female so yay, girl power.

>and then rey
>
no, no user she's unsure of herself though

>normies in charge of actually reading the source material of capeshit

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this is the best post in the thread. Mary Sue's aren't defined simply by their insane ability, but by their lack of any negative characteristics or actions. It's why they're relatively boring characters because they're already so fucking good. Tony is a fucking asshole at first and Steve is right when he tells him in the first Avengers that he's not the one who would make the sacrifice play when it comes down to it.

that's why his sacrifice in Endgame is completely earned, because he's overcome personal failure one after another

>she didn't know how much of a mary sue she was which is a legitimate flaw

literally when.

Rey has not died yet. At least Tony can claim a Christlike sacrifice.

Shes not Mary Sue at all, the movie says shes a force freak and either you accept that and enjoy the movie like you do Iron Man or fuck off and cry on twitter about muh SJW.

And her lightsaber skills are not a problem at all, for one you can see when she trains on Achto that she is doing Kylo's moveset, and in the fight itself with the guards she barely could keep up, had no technique and was basically amateuring her way thru it compared to Kylo.

So spare the Mary Sue shit.

lol

>What how is she a mary sue like even luke senses how powerful she is, her power level is so big like how could she possibly be a mary sue?

that one time

Wrong. We saw Tony Stark refine his technology and fail a number of times. At most we saw Rey kind-of-not-quite-win, and with no effort to grow her abilities. TLJ at least had some training scenes.

>she has magic unexplained superpowers because the movie said so and shes the strongest and coolest and bestest at everything
>but because they said she isnin the movie she's nit a mary sue
?????

when

>Iron Man's dad is smart. Inherited his fathers company and has been around technology and science his whole life

>Rey grew up on a backwater sand planet larping as a star pilot on her time off savaging.

totally comparable

Tony stark was kidnapped by terrorists using his own weapons and lived as a slave for 3 months with a car battery hotwired to his fucking heart.

>Rey? Dying?

Bruh... it's the era of "Force is Female". That's never happening. Kylo will die and Rey will resurrect him with the power of her vagina. Rey can do anything. Even bring people back from a certain death. Shame she won't bring back Luke or Han.

Yes, just like Tony has a superhuman brain that invents time travel by inverting his tunnel.

Fuck off.

Shes a Mary Sue according to /pol/ and the alt-right meatheads.
Shes basically female Luke for everybody else.

Cognitive dissonance levels are off the charts

Tony stark is already an established genius that has successfully growth a multi-billionare company with his innovations in weaponry.

Rey is a literal nobody with no parents, training or education that knows how to do everything.

>female Luke
Yassssss

iron man
>dad was a scientist
>grew up rich, with a good education, surrounded by technology and people knowledgable with technology, relies on his AI and suit for his strengtg and to supplement his intelligence
rey:
>grew up an impovershed orphan on a desert planet with no knowledge of the force
>learns of its existence and becomes the strongest force user and lightsaber fighter in history

theres a pretty fat difference here

>Tony stark is already an established genius
And shes already an established force prodigy chosen by the force itself to counter Kylo.

So whats wrong?

how do i give this post reddit gold???

And she beat up the Skywalkers easily who actually trained for years and are the progeny of the chosen one. With no training. What's left for Rey to overcome anyway?

>bringing back white males
Sweetie... white men are canceled, didn't you get the memo?

yeah but luke was shit at being a jedi. he was a weakling that grew. he got beat by one sandperson, beat by one wampa, lost to vader, almost died to vader in the trench run, fucked up his plan in jabba's palace, lost his hand
rey was stronger than him within a day of learning what the force was

The fact she has no training or education, Tony stark was born with an high IQ but also got a lot of education and business experience, both anakin and luke were force prodigies as well but both needed years of training from actual jedi masters before becoming proficient with the force and lightsaber sparring, did you even watch any of the movies?

Tony Stark is one of the most deeply flawed characters in modern cinema and that's why he's popular

>literal god chooses her to be good
this is mary sue
tony stark had to learn these things. he didn't grow up in a cave, find a watch, and six hours later turn it into a spaceship

>The fact she has no training or education

For what? Lifting those rocks? What part of force prodigy did you miss? Thats all the explanation you need. Luke already thought her in that moment how to feel/use the force, when she broke the rock.

As for the lightsaber shit, her skill is reflective of her background as a char in TFA, she lived as a scavanger and knew how to fight for her life.

Literally what the fuck are you bitching about?

youtube.com/watch?v=XZbVLvT7qBU

kill yourself retard

Bro, are you gonna ignore Anakin skywalkers entire existence? They are the same fcking story, both born with unmeasurable power. It takes Anakin like 16 years to achieve the power of Darth Vader, the strongest character in the entire franchise. Explain why she gets to auto pilot into Jedi mode in less than a month.

anakin was a force prodigy, said to have the highest midchlorian count ever, and he couldn't do half of what rey did even after years of training. lucas has said luke had even more and he could barely lift pebbles after weeks of training with yoda.
being chose by god is the most mary sue trait of all.

>he learned to invent time travel and fart time travel.

Lmao, i'l buy the fucking force messiah over the MCU shit everyday

Bro Anakin was literally the force baby. And he constantly got his ass kicked. He lost to Dooku and ObiWan.

Rey hasn't lost shit yet.

She beat Kylo the first time she held a lightsaber. Then beat up Luke because she was pissed at him for igniting his lightsaber on Kylo. Her character is shit.

Being a sue isn't just about having a silly dbz power level it's about everyone and everything in the universe worshipping you and revolving around you. Rey has all of that in spades.

I hate nu-Wars and capeshit equally.

Your move, Rian.

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So basically you faggots are mad cause Lucasfilm made a woman stronger in universe than the previous male heroes?

Lmao, and how are you not bigoted cunts again?

It has nothing to do with muh skill or whatever, you refuse to listen to explanations given to you in the movie, your just butt mad shes stronger than Anakin or Luke.

>ignore every post proving you wrong
>um sweety
ok youre not retarded just baiting.

proved what? The movie says Rey is supposed to be stronger than either Luke or Anakin and Kylo's equal.

And i said as much, prove me what? Theres nothing to fucking prove.

Your mad shes stronger

>complaining about bigoted cunts
>on 4channel
Where the fuck are you people coming from? Is the discord tranny meme real?

it's bait stop responding

Half genuine discord tranny/ribbit zoomers and half bored anons trolling.

>puts fingers in ears
>lalalalalalalalallalalalalalnuuuuuhuhhhhhhhh

>she's naturally stronger and better at everything with no training or explanation other than she just is
>smarter at ships than the guys who own it
>better at lightsabers than the guy who trained his whole life in the fighting style
>everyone loves her the second they meet her even the villains
she's peak sue

People aren't mad because she's stronger than Anakin or Luke. They are mad because Rey never makes mistakes. Never struggles for anything. Everything is handed to her on a platter. Everyone loves her after one meeting. Even Kylo. And he's the villain.

She doesn't suffer for anything. And walks away scott free from every situation. And everyone keeps worshipping her for no apparent reason.

What is left for her to achieve or overcome? She's already a better Jedi than Luke. She's already defeated Kylo. What's there to do for Rey? Defeat Kylo again?

Tony has tons of negative traits and has gotten his ass kicked a bunch. This is some shit bait

You sound so butthurt. Rey has had absolutely no obstacles to overcome on the entire series and everyone immediately loves her upon meeting her. It's textbook Mary sue shit.

It is.

he says while ignoring

>They are mad because Rey never makes mistakes. Never struggles for anything.

False, she runs away from the fight on Takodana, she gets captured, and the only reason she defeated Kylo is because he was wounded and wasn't trying to kill her.

In TLJ she really starts to make mistakes, she starts to get corrupted by the darkside/kylo, she turns on Luke, trust Kylo and almost gets everyone killed when Kylo is enraged by her betrayal.
And in the end it was her impulsiveness that cost Luke his life and her saber.

Rey was making a mistake from the moment she shipped herself to Kylo, Luke was coming to her to fly together back to his sister and the Resistance before he saw her with Kylo in the hut.

You faggots don't even care to give the movie fair criticism, all you do is ignore it and foam at the mouth.

Sigh...hopefully this shuts everyone the fuck up about this 4 year long nonsense
youtu.be/36lEg63hpL0?t=882

>shes not a mary sue because another character said she is strong

And he comes out entirely unharmed physically and mentally.

>but he had the magic technology thingy in his chest!!!11

Yes and it didn't affect him at all.

>changed his entire outlook on life
>made him change the entire direction of his company which his mentor says is a bad idea
>turns his mentor on him and forces him to kill him
>let his only friend in the terrorist cave die
>becomes obsessed with being a hero to the point of destroying his relationship with pepper later on and building the evil robots and ultron

Name a a character flaw in Rey. A true character flaw. When did she overcome an obstacle from trial and error? When has she failed something she set out to do? When was another character shown to explicitly be better at her in something?

watch this fucking video nerds

Rey also fucks shit up in TLJ by not listening to Luke and make Kylo to the most powerful military leader in existence by her stupidity.

Again, TLJ is basically "Women fucking up by not listening to the males" the movie

>When has she failed something she set out to do?

She failed to turn Kylo

>When was another character shown to explicitly be better at her in something?

In the throne room fight Kylo is fighting 3 guys at a time while she can barely handle 1.

And besides Kylo, Rose is a batter mechanic than her, Poe is a better pilot than her, Finn is a better shot than her. But in the force/jedi arc she and Kylo are supposed to be the best.

Its a good idea to watch the movie you wanna shit on user.

never to all of the above

>Tony can pull any magical tech bullshit out of his suit's deus ex ass to the point where he can 1v1 a Thanos who has most of the stones
>but its ok tho cause he's kind of a jerk
retarded thread desu

Have sex

Even if what you say is correct (it isnt), Stark is still a likeable character played by a good actor. Rey is not.

yes, exactly.
The marvel capeshit universe is a setting full of goofy power-fantasy superpowers, what makes the characters and stories enjoyable is the characters and how the develop in them, and yes Stark has major flaws that lead to major conflicts regardless of however much he uses his superpowers to overcome plot obstacles.

Also he fucking loses to Thanos 1v1 and only lives because Strange strikes a bargian. Jesus it feels so weird to be defending capeshit so seriously but you morons are so fucking stupid.

>She failed to turn Kylo


still killed snoke, even when she fails it works in her favor ultimately

>Tony Stark
lol he's a manlet and pays for sex

She didn't go there to kill Snoke she did to turn Kylo, she failed.

And Kylo killed Snoke, not her. She killed Luke and almost got everyone else killed by Kylo.

yea learn what a character arc. Getting better at tech wasn't tony's arc, it was the fact that he started off as a selfish narcissist who learns to be more selfless

Rey starts off as a force freak genius but she has no character flaw to really overcome

everything you have said has just cemented the fact that she is a huge Mary Sue.

Literally what? Tony had a massive alcohol problem and constantly suffered from PTSD after everything that happens in the movies.

> Blown up and kept prisoner in a cave by terrorists
> Gets his ass handed to him in some way every movie
> Becomes overprotective and makes a robot army that wildly backfires and has to deal with the repercussions of that

Meanwhile Rey can Solo Kylo without so much as a scratch, handle getting mind fucked by Snoke without any injury whatso ever, Destroy Luke with little effort, and SWIM while living on a planet with zero bodies of water.

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I'm 10 minutes in and so far this guy is consistently missing the point and strawmanning criticism condescendingly. The fact that he's slightly less retarded than the typical NuWars defender doesn't make it good.

>refutes the "carbon copy of ANH" criticism
well yeah no shit that is pleb criticism. No shit there are differences. The problem is that forcing ANH's structure and story premises completely fucks the narrative. The OT is a character-driven narrative and the story is built around Luke's Journey. ST is a rehash narrative with characters just doing whatever for the sake of moving the plot forward.

she goes there to turn kylo, he doesn't turn but still kills his master. She failed but it still ultimately worked in the heroes favor. She leaves that scene the same way she came so nothing really happened for her. With luke for example he goes to save his friends, fails(they save themselves), he loses his hand and finds out his father was actually evil this whole time. Luke comes out worse from the situation where Rey comes out the same other than Snoke being dead which is better.

>i dont actually watch the movies i just talk about them on Yea Forums!

>Meanwhile Rey can Solo Kylo without so much as a scratch, handle getting mind fucked by Snoke without any injury whatso ever, Destroy Luke with little effort, and SWIM while living on a planet with zero bodies of water.

I love how you keep making up these rules in your head and then proceed to criticise the movie.

>Meanwhile Rey can Solo Kylo without so much as a scratch,

She was getting pounded by Kylo before he bleed out and couldn't take it anymore

>handle getting mind fucked by Snoke without any injury whatso ever

Was Snoke's intention to lobotomize her? Like who, what the fuck are you on about

>Destroy Luke with little effort

Luke never tried to fight her.

>and SWIM while living on a planet with zero bodies of water.

She fucking flailed in a puddle like a dog

Lmao the absolute state of /pol/ criticism.

Luke is literally the most powerful force sensitive ever. This is not even EU shit, Lucas himself said it

Not according to TLJ, Kylo and Rey are

Fucking kill yourself nigger, you know nothing about star wars and are the reason these movies are so fucking garbage Anakin was literally born of the force. He was practically the force made flesh, yet he still had to train FOR YEARS to become a master jedi.
Rey is just naturally good, which doesn't happen. You can have an affinity, sure, but your not a master with no training.
Rey is a Mary Sue. Shes overpowered, every character loves her instantly, her power level is wanked at every turn, and she somehow knows the Falcon better than Han.

>She was getting pounded by Kylo before he bleed out and couldn't take it anymore

We are talking about the actual movie not the bdsm porn parody

>SHUT UP YOU..YOU NIGGER SHUUUUT UP!

u mad honky?

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>shes a mary sue cause shes a decent likeable girl

Holy shit lmao

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>u mad
Now that I know your a shitposter with no argument; No, I'm not lmao

Nice reading comprehension

>decent likeable girl
>Amazing at the force because

totally not a mary sue

u dumb fucking cracker, literally foaming at the mouth.
Your just mad shes better than Luke and Anakin.

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>She's a mary sue hence shes not a mary sue
Wut

I hate Tony too though. He's the cause of almost every problem they face. And he never learns from it or grows. He's the flattest character whose losses are temporary at best so any accomplishment just feeds his ego. Deflection over this NEVER takes into account that plenty of people don't like either. I think Jon Snow is flat too but at least he's actually lost even one time (Rickon). Tony never lost, Rey never lost.

>shoots 3 tie fighters down her first time ever operating a turret
>anyone a better pilot or shot then her

The Tie's were literally lined up in a line, and Chewie was flying.

So basically 90% of the "critique" on this board over her character can be summed up to not seeing the movie or blatant shitposting and bad faith arguments.

Smells like /pol/ aka shit.

Have Sex

>He's the cause of almost every problem they face

So not a mary sue...

> And he never learns from it or grows.

becomes more selfless with each movie

> He's the flattest character whose losses are temporary at best so any accomplishment just feeds his ego

so he has a character flaw being his ego, nice

> Tony never lost, Rey never lost.

he never lost but you said in the beginning he is the cause of almost every problem he faces, how is that a win?

stop projecting cuck

name 1 other character in any media who got a triple kill in one shot their first time using any weapon and ill accept rey isnt a mary sue

But darth vader couldn't shoot down luke who was right in front of him in the trench run in ANH

I still can’t believe that some people won’t accept the fact that Rey is a textbook mary sue. She’s just Anakin with zero of the growth or training yet all of the payoff.

>name 1 other character in any media who got a triple kill in one shot their first time using any weapon and ill accept rey isnt a mary sue

Nobody cares what you accept, you don't make the rules, and she isn't a Mary Sue.

You see, you think everybody is dumb and easy to pull in the ol' /pol/ circular logic hole.

but dude she doesn't know who her parents are!

>if I can't come up with a decent argument against you it just means your from some troll forum!

you can't be a mary sue if you're the main character

mary sue is someone inserted into a universe and everyone listens to them and they out do established characters

the MCU didn't exist til iron man was a mega hit

She's far worse than Anakin, Anakin isn't really liked at all in the films, yeah he's powerful but it brings him disaster and misfortune more than anything else. Kid Anakin gets a bit silly with the whole fighter pilot thing but I think Lucas just didn't know how to handle Obi-Wan's line about Anakin from ANH, when it should've been left for the other two films.
It's hard to write a sue into a prequel in general because one of the biggest red flags is that the character is shoehorned into a pre-existing universe and warps all the relationships around them. Anakin doesn't do that because Vader already existed to begin with.

so Rey and Marvel basically

I don't need a decent argument, because theres no need for one.

The tie's were lined up and she shot them. You are the one with the problem.

>Neither prove their powerleves
Literaly the entire Iron Man 3 is about Tony doing things without his suit until the end when he call the robot army

>She would only be a mary sue if they weren't lined up and she shot them all with one shot

But she shot only the first one, luck had it the other two were lined up next to her target.

She's a lucky girl. Just like Tony didn't turn into an omelette when that tank shell hit him in Iron Man and he smashed the ground like a meteor in his 3 ton pajamas.
Its movie magic bro.

b8

I'd fuck Daisy hard though. Harder than Rian fucked the franchise. Not her fault.

So he has plot armor sure that is fine, every character has that. Rey gets lucky and takes out three fighter pilots with one shot, Tony gets lucky and just doesn't die.

Its almost like these characters are set in a movie or something and are meant to entertain.....hmmmm. But one of them has a vagina and i hate that.

You tell em girl! Who needs consistency or believable storytelling. Rey is such a good character she completed the trilogy in two movies by killing literally everyone before the third movie

>Its almost like these characters are set in a movie or something and are meant to entertain.....hmmmm.

what does that have to do with what we are talking about?

> But one of them has a vagina and i hate that.

Even if that were true it doesn't change the fact that she is a mary sue

Tony - Began his film series, setting the tone for the types of movies we'd watch when we saw them
Rey - Took over AFTER six previous films had been released, and took a fat dump on those films

If she had begun in her own new movie "Space Cunt: The Cunt goes to Space", instead of raping and beheading an established franchise and American cultural icon, nobody would have a single negative thing to say about her, and her movie would probably have no serious detractors.

Remember when he started out as a weapon manufacturer then learned and changed?
Remember when he was a billionaire playboy philanthropist but learned to sacrifice himself for the greater good?

Please list the ways Ms Mary Wars learned and changed?

Tony can and has been beaten, and almost even killed on more than one occasion. In fact his near-death experience is literally what made him who he is. That hole in his chest with the device kept him alive, and defeat made him stronger.

Mary Sue is indestructible and can't even be made to break a sweat while handling the patriarchy.

RJ is full of shit just like you are. He's still trying to deflect from the fact thast he made a shitty movie that he deliberately made shitty just to "subvert expectations."

The fucking asshole cut a filmed scene of Luke mourning the loss of his friend Han, and has said he won't put it back in. Heaven forbid it humanizes Luke to be the Luke we remember, and not the villian RJ wanted him to be seen as.

>muh /pol/
opinion: discarded

Is Kylo somehow worse than snoke? Because i don’t see how that’s possible

stop replying to shitty bait.

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>Please list the ways Ms Mary Wars learned and changed?

Well, she accepted her place in the story after the throne room, that Luke is done and its her job to take the mantle as the hero and the future of the Jedi.

Also she accepted that you can choose your family, and she made the resistance her's and let go of her traumatic past.

For more changes you will have to wait for ROTS.

Has anyone here seen this movie beyond the buttmad youtube videos from the regular ecelebs?

thats your problem you are sexist and view life through a sexist lense. If Rey was a guy you would take Tony's side in a heart beat.

Do you work for Disney? It sure reads like it.

And no I am not gonna give the next one a chance. Fuck that! When the studio's response to a movie collapsing is to attack the audience as bigots to try to bully them into handing over money, the respect is GONE!

Disney ruined the SW franchise, and shitting on the fan base was the wrong way to handle it. It amazes me with the arrogance of you people to think you can manipulate people into still having the kind of feels for something they had long before you came along and took a shit on it.

There is zero hype for it. Live with it. It's Disney's fault, so own up to it because the continued lynching of the public as bigots unless they support you only solidifies rejecting any more Star Wars.

>Do you work for Disney? It sure reads like it.

No i watched the movie.

why are you defending a bad writer by focusing on the fact that he chose a girl character? If I wrote a shit tier book would you buy it just cause I had a female main character be emotionally cold and use weapons?

>FA, TLJ, ROTS

>Fat LJ Rots

>Fat Lucas and Johnson Rots

Thanks based JJ

>le shill card
pack it up bro

Good try OP. But you could have picked Captain Fungus instead if you were looking for the MCU Mary sue

Disney learned absolutely nothing from TLJ, and still thinks if they lynch audiences as bigots then they can bully people into handing over money.

They openly refuse to accept the fact that TLJ was a franchise-killer level of bad.

stop replying
to shitty
bait

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You don't even understand what a Mary Sue is. Come back when your IQ is higher

>Disney ruined the SW franchise, and shitting on the fan base was the wrong way to handle it.

They didn't ruin anything, and aren't shitting on any fan, the agitprop faggots from /pol/ with little clickbait headlines by progressive rags want you to believe that.

The only divisive thing they did was Luke's story in TLJ, and it has nothing to do with shitting on anyone.

These aren’t character developments.
I really hope you’re trolling.

>Well, she accepted her place in the story after the throne room, that Luke is done and its her job to take the mantle as the hero and the future of the Jedi.

She accepted her role as a mary sue, nice. How is that even a real character flaw, being a selfish asshole is a real thing people have a problem with which is why Tony is relate able, literally no one has a problem of accepting themselves in a story, like does rey also know she is in a movie lol?


>Also she accepted that you can choose your family, and she made the resistance her's and let go of her traumatic past.

This is like the most clliche problem given to a mary sue of having a dark past and learning to forget about it through their friends

Tell that to Rian Johnson who keeps digging in.

he is
stop
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shitty
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>They didn't ruin anything
Um, yes they did sweetie, they ruined Star Wars.
From the family saga to the rules of the universe.

Digging in to what? The man explained in director's commentary in detail his reasoning for Luke's arc and on several occasions on Twitter.

And you kept shitting on him and everyone involved with this movie and then pretend like you are the one whos victimized. And all this knowing full well that most of your "criticism" is bullshit and theres no room for debate. And when they stop responding to your yammering and crying you start to make up some conspiracy that Disney is out to get you.

Give me a fucking break.

its sad, this thread was about whether or not Rey is a mary sue, but it seems like you are just desperate to win any argument at this point

pick my cotton nigger

when you stop picking your nose cracker ass bitch

>you don't make the rules

>some nigger obviously baiting, because no one sane would defend Rey as a character
>people still take the bait

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good one, nigger