>every Azor Ahai/Lightbringer/Prince That Was Promised prophecy was meaningless >Rhaegar kidnapped Lyanna for no reason >Roberts Rebellion was pointless >The War Of Five Kings had no consequences >The War For The Dawn lasted 2 hours >Nobody outside of Winterfell will ever know the White Walkers ever existed >Everybody who ignored the Walker threat was completely in the right >Building the Wall itself was a waste of time, as was manning it for thousands of years
Maybe you should just accept that women can do cool things too, sweety.
Nathan Collins
That''s what you get for believing in prophecies. Science > religion.
Jeremiah Adams
>every Azor Ahai/Lightbringer/Prince That Was Promised prophecy was meaningless not really, the meme is that arya was the lightbringer that Melisandre had been looking for for hundreds of years, all along
Jaxson Rivera
>Winter is Coming! post yfw winter was an incompetent incel
The thing is, at first you think that the War of the 5 Kings is something that hits Westeros at the wrong time. It kills a lot of people that would be useful in the fight against the white walkers, it depletes the land of important ressources needed for that fight and to survive the winter. It just looks like the petty squabbles of nobles robbed Westeros of its future. BUT NO, the war of the five kings actually made Arya become a super assassin trained by the faceless men, something that wouldn't have happened in a stable political climate. Only because of this political turmoil is Westeros eventually saved.
the secret to killing the NK is browning the butter
Jason Ross
In the end politics killed more people then The Knight King. That says alot about our society. RiseUp.jpg
Tyler Morgan
>If they were not going to catch the wight, they were not going to lose a dragon >The Wall would be standing in all its mighty at this day >Catching the wight didn't worth for anything because Cersei didn't help anyway
Sorry for my english
Oliver Adams
This
Noah Bennett
No it doesn't.
Adam Lee
doing mental gymnastics to force a story to make sense is not the same as a story being consistent and coherent
Logan Cruz
Not apologizing for your English would make this a good post
>every Azor Ahai/Lightbringer/Prince That Was Promised prophecy was meaningless Do you really think Jon is going to pull a sword out of dany's heart and pronounce he is now TPTWP/Azor Ahai and flamewave the entire white walker threat? None of the people complaining about this particular aspect can even explain why they feel the non-inclusion of this not subtle at all shit is inherently bad. No one here understands what metaphor is or how prophecy is used as a literary device and not a LITERAL outline for the story (unless you're a fucking hack).
Lincoln Walker
Yeah that entire thing was literally a contrived narrative to allow D&D to give the NK a dragon and thus a way to get past the wall. there's so many fuckups once you start digging, like the entire point for Dany to go with Jon by boat/horse and not ride there on Drogon is SPECIFICALLY to make the northerners think she means well.
First episode of Season 8, she uses Drogon to scare the shit out of the peasants and smirks at the fact she's inspiring fear.
Joshua Wright
but as soon as a wamyn does it, it stops being cool
Easton Nelson
Wow thanks for the spoiler retard faggot. Kys
Lincoln Scott
My normie wife thought it was great because it was so unexpected. So I guess it would have been even greater if a motherfucking xenomorph from Aliens had appeared out of thin air and killed the NK. SO FUCKING UNEXPECTED SUCH GREAT WRITING
Aiden Robinson
>I guess it would have been even greater if a motherfucking xenomorph from Aliens had appeared out of thin air and killed the NK Yeah, that would've been pretty awesome.
Isaac Bailey
Really it's not that Arya landed the killing blow, it's that she landed the only blow. She didn't even use any assassin techniques, she just ran at the guy like a screaming retard and stabbed him with a knife.
I'd have accepted it if she had at least put up a decent ambush (like putting on Bran or Theon's face or something, I don't know), or if literally anyone else had also managed to do something meaningful. Mostly Jon, who despite having leadership and combat experience does nothing at all. Doesn't even bother to go after the NK when he's right in front of him.
Daniel Roberts
does ur wife enjoy bbc too?
Camden Hall
>when even a fucking Marvel movie had better tact handling Ironman and Thanos' character arcs than Game of god damn Thrones What timeline are we living in Yea Forums?
Alexander Martin
what if they did this to set up NK having a yaaas kween daughter to take up his mantle?
Julian Reed
What if Tyrion used a slingshot he unexpectedly found in the crypt and threw Sansa's knife at the NK? That would have been really unexpected but if you think about it he's so small the walkers didn't notice him, it all makes sense now
Jack Ortiz
>tfw the Night King is actually Davy Jones I'd be okay with it desu
Joseph Walker
If the Night King can die from a single stab then why didn't someone just shoot him with a dragon glass arrow? Hello? Literally just a dozen bowmen is enough.
Jack Mitchell
have sex
Anthony Barnes
Well in the books the pale lady created the Night's King
David Morris
Only mine
James Robinson
>The Knight King Are you retarded?
Daniel Wood
That was what I was saying. If she revealed to be Bran that was way better, though they'd have to skip the whole 'he knows exactly where I am at all times'. Maybe get Jon to distract the NK so he can do his part. I think a lot of people would be less mad.
David Martin
>Trained Remind me when she trained knight tier sword fighting, throwing daggers, back teleportation, parkour and face changing, because all I remember is she using a staff while blind.
Hudson Garcia
>Getting butthurt about the B plot
Logan Davis
The funny thing is that dragons can't fly over the wall in the books.
Tyler Kelly
>get hit with stick >gain ability to sprint at super speeds, 100 weaponskill, and leap 20ft into the air Uh have sex incel??!? There are dragons in this show!
Elijah Morales
>Yeah that entire thing was literally a contrived narrative to allow D&D to give the NK a dragon and thus a way to get past the wall He could've just went around the wall, so obviously he was just waiting for a chance to get a dragon mount.
Carson Anderson
I wouldn't expect Arya to became a giantess and poop on the Night's King army, but that doesn't mean it would be good.
Juan Bailey
>how did they all go 8 seasons without going to the toilet? am I expected to believe they went for YEARS without ever having to shit? That's so unrealistic This is how you sound.
Lucas Thomas
Is that really a challenge considering you can just fly around the wall? I actually don't understand why the freefolk don't just try to assault either the Shadow Tower or Eastwatch by-the-sea. Both are in much worse shape than Castle Black and with far less men. You could have them all fucked up with mammoths and giants and then suddenly there's thousands of freefolk beyond the wall. Bust some Umber heads with multiple giants and you got yourself some land while the Night's Watch is still looking north expecting a fight.
Joshua Wood
Where did this "have sex" thing originate from? A foolproof way to silence dissent, like "just turn your brain off" ?
yeah, likely originated from a virgin RPing as a sex-haver to increase resentment against normies
Oliver Moore
It really isn't. >superfluous day to day hygiene is on the same level as a character inexplicably gaining literal superpowers This is literally how you sound.
Jason Peterson
it was cooked up by contrapoints fans trying to run gay ops for whatever reason
Austin Peterson
Jokes on you, shitting is an integral part of this series. Dany shits her brains out in the book and tywin dies on the shitter
Leo Edwards
I don't watch this rubbish but have heard plenty about it. In any of the battles involving cavalry does the opposite side think to dig trenches?
yep they trivialized so much of the earlier series to have an epic girl power moment and and by making the night king job like a worthless bitch.
Jason Clark
Don't forget if Bran never goes north the 3ER never dies either. So the NK never does the only 2 things he wants to do. Kill the 3ER and all of Westoros
Noah Jenkins
nope, in every battle calvary pretty much btfo the other side except against the wights
Ethan Jenkins
>Work for a god who gives his followers superpowers. >Get superpowers. gAmE Of ThROnEs iS RuiNeD
Mason Ramirez
That's fucking gay.
Sunk cost Fallacy: The Fanbase
Noah Morris
I really fucking hate this way of talking. It reeks of reddit and Twitter. I haven't ever seen anyone who isn't a little pissant talk this way.
Jeremiah Brown
Oh I thought it was a clever way to say "get fucked"... I wish I was right
Zachary Moore
Just because you don't actually see them taking a shit, doesn't mean that they aren't taking shits. It's enough to know that they can take shits and as a half-way intelligent lifeform you can deduce that they probably take shits and won't die from constipation.
You've seen her getting trained for about 8 years now. You don't actually have to see her EVERY training to know that she's a good fighter. They've actually already shown that she is a good fighter on way too many occasions for this to be a good argument.
Josiah Thomas
it means 'if you have sex, it will make sense'
they are talking as if they are the fucktards that are the MSM talking points.
Carson Scott
That's a retarded and fallacious analogy. I'd suggest lurking moar.
Mason Rodriguez
Deflection won't change the fact that there is logic in Arya having superpowers .
Aiden Long
>Way to many occasions >LITERALLY 3 MOMENTS >Every single one of them is just her using hand tricks of some sort >Not a single one of her jumping 20 ft over thousands of WW at the speed of light > All of these moments happen after s5 when D&D no longer had the books to fall on.
Chase Collins
I'm not him you fucking redditor.
Henry Nelson
Arya is Azor Ahai you retards
Carter Reyes
Fuck off nerd. No one by that name exists in the show. Go back to your books.
Anthony Rodriguez
I haven't even read the books you presumptuous cuck
Ryan Kelly
>white walkers got through the wall only because their weapon (Viserion) that they got randomly had a random superpower to melt the wall >the northerners won only because Arya's weapon that she got randomly had a random superpower to kill the NK Just give everyone a random superpower and turn this into a proper capeshit at this point.
Tell me in which episode Azor Ahai is mentioned. Or where you just cucked by book readers into believing that shit?
Mason Peterson
Dragons aren't real you fucking retard. Humans are, and they can't do that shit. And stop acting like you've ever had sex. You're 14, and it's goddamned obvious.
Kevin Sullivan
What was the dagger made of?
Bentley Reyes
Dabid's asspulls
Hudson Baker
They dont say his name but they do mention the prince who was promised
Leo Anderson
>only show the audience retarded shit that doesn't matter and serves as zero measure of overall combat progress >all the REAL training was offscreen guys Why not do this with every character? Sure, Littlefinger is shit at combat in what's actually written, but offscreen he was shooting off energy beams, I mean, we don't have to show or explain everything! We don't show him on the toilet either so this is perfectly fine
Grayson Reyes
No, her training is insufficient to instantly and easily destroy the being that has been hyped up to be a world ending force with unimaginable physical strength, mental acuity and magical ability, with strong hints that he can just see the future to just be overtaken by a child who is sneaky and spent some time training and just beg for mercy.
Other characters train for along time, alot of them have more experience than Arya but you wouldnt expect Brienne to just walk up and kill him like it was nothing would you? Its an anticlimax, its poorly written, youre wrong.
Seconding this, i tried getting into it, but now i an glad i didn't waste my time on this joke of an ending.
John Perry
And why would Arya be a prince?
Brody Morris
>Sam pricks his finger on a piece of dragonglass >becomes New Night King since that's apparently how it works
Wyatt Wilson
>Be Stone Dornish nobleman >loyal to House Dayne >atheletic, fair and masculine >fight, kill and adventure as much as you can >outcompete sandy """"Dornish"""" >outcompete salty """"Dornish"""" >outcompete petty tourney-knights and Andalfags >come home to perfect wheather, impressive landscape, dancing, singing, drinking and feasting with your mates >fuck your 12 mistresses as often as possible >produce strong sons and pretty daughters >kek'd at Children of the Forest and Giants >kek'd at other First Men Houses >kek'd at Long Night >kek' at Andalfag Invasion >kek'd at """""House""""" Martell >kek'd at Rhoynigga Invasion >kek'd at """"""House"""""" Martell again, felt a bit of pity for them >kek'd at Targ invasion >kek'd at Bobby's rebellion >kek'd at Greyfag's rebellion >kek'd at reconstruction of """""""""House""""""""" Martell >kek'd at war for Cersei's cunt >kek'd at maesters and the citadel >kek'd at every winter >kek'd at tales of Northmen and their call for help >kek'd at tales of Watchmen and their call for help >kek'd hard at their description of "the wildling invasion" >kek'd harder when said problem resolved itself >kek'd hard at their description of "the army of the dead" >kek'd hardest when said problem resolved itself
Isaac Brown
They do assault the other castles, in fact, small parties often go through the mountains to pass the wall but you cant really send mamooths there.
Luis Richardson
Valyrian steel.
Anthony Fisher
this, she shut the blue eyes forever. Also Missandei said the prophecy was lost in translation when she said "prince or princess that was promised"
Nathan Allen
the screaming retard was Jon yelling go at the dragon for Arya to sneak by just like she did to Jon in the same goddamn place
Kevin Moore
it had to be in the heart, if you watch her stab him she thrusts upwards towards where he was originally stabbed by dragonglass when he became the NK
Alexander Gray
Literally everything that happened was for Arya to nani the night king.
LOL
Kayden Miller
>Loyal to house dayne You mean Yronwood, right?
Asher Clark
lol hurt, It wasnt that unexpected, especially all from Season 3 to now. The idea that Arya would kill him is right under your nose
Nathan Perez
yea, no honey
Gabriel Reed
why do people retcon this shit themselves now. dumb and dumber said themselves that they came up with arya out of thin air 2-3 years at season 6 filming
Jose Ortiz
I really don't understand people complaining about Jon's chosen one secret king dragon rider arc culminating in him beating the big bad. ASOIAF has always been about plotlines not falling neatly into your generic headcanon.
Cameron Brown
>Pulling facts out of your arse Just kill yourself mate
Nathan Long
>the virgin quest taker vs the chad powerleveler
Jose King
>Theon takes his last stand >Instantly has his spear taken out of his hand, snapped in half, and promptly shoved into his stomach before he can even react >Arya takes her last stand >Not only did she survive essentially being hung when the NK grabbed her by the throat out of the air, she is given a large amount of time to do her knife switcheroo, the NK just watches what she's doing the whole time, and lets himself get stabbed What reason, other than "the NK wanted to enjoy killing a little girl", would he have for not instantly grabbing the knife out of her hand and stabbing her with it, just like he did with Theon and his spear? The only real answer I can think of is contrivance to allow a strong woman moment. And THAT is why I generally dislike "woman doing cool thing" in fiction.
Adam Johnson
>responding to shitposters with logic >responding to shitposters at all
Liam Wood
Let me explain something to you brainlets" This isn't accidental hack writing - this is on purpose We are in the era of "event programming". Making a good show is worthless if it doesn't trend on twitter. Everyone needs to talk about it. The only way to do that is to constantly flip the script.
They KNOW it's anticlimactic, against character, and fundamentally retarded - that's WHY they did it, so it would set the internet on fire way more than a satisfying conclusion would have.
Aiden Lee
She isn't a princess in any capacity, unless fucking Gendry made her one.
Tyler Martin
Funny how have sex and incell aren't filtered although they're spammed just as much as soiboi ever was.
Owen Young
Incel Incel ineeellllllll Look at the Incel over here!!!!
Elijah Anderson
This ain’t ASOIAF though
Luis Hughes
Because bad directing. It could've been just the NK swinging his sword and bursting into ice shards mid swing with Arya standing behind him. In the end it doesn't really matter much because the bitching would've been the same.
Colton Young
Just respond to "have sex" with "bend over"
Luke Anderson
It's good because it was unexpected :^). I hope Jon shits out an elf that stabs cersei to death and rapes his sisters, that would be to unexpected.
Luke Rivera
oh shit my bad i should just off myself, watch inside the episode they spell it out for you retard
What are you on about OP that scene was EPIC! My mouth couldn't get any wider and then a primal wail came from nowhere when she SLAYED!! YAAAS QUEEEEEEEN!
I was going to be pissed if the white walkers kept marching south to be honest, more so than the nerds complaining that they wanted to see everyone die - rendering everything pointless.
Ayden Cook
Wasn't the green eye, blue eye shit foreshadowing?
Adam Thompson
LotR would honestly be preferable.
Jason Rogers
How much better would it have been if it went like this instead? >hold ground at Winterfell >prepare for battle against the Night King and his army of the dead >"they'll be here before sunrise" >night falls >anticipation >existential discussions >sun peaks over the hill >no Night King >he's gone around us >he's already taken King's Landing and the Iron Fleet >he's more powerful than ever now >we need a new plan - there's no way we can attack him head on now
took me 30 seconds to come up with a better plot
Jason Watson
LOTR did the "destroy the one thing and the whole army is defeated," but what makes it great is that it's all centered on whether Frodo, a completely normal and unimpressive person, can be a good person. And he FAILED. The only thing that saved humanity was Gollum's greed.
Tolkien unironically was more cynical and realistic about human nature than GRRM, or at least D&D's version of GRRM.
Parker Cook
>Cersei and Euron fuck off to the Iron Islands before the Night King gets to her, Cersei is content to have the only throne left in Westeros as Jon and Dany get fucked and die
that would unironically fit much better with the rest of the series than what happened
Jordan Johnson
i'm not sure what point you're trying to make
Henry Taylor
How do normies not cringe every time this gremlin is on screen? Every single scene with her has been fucking embarrassing for like 5 years
Gabriel Wright
hi big joel
Nathan Barnes
She disarmed the butch knight with her little sword alone and when they went fully at it she was still able to stalemate her. stfu, you idiot. You don't have to see ninja backflips on screen to know that it's implied that she trained a lot.
Christopher Myers
>Arya literally killed the Night King with the same move she used to win her sparring match with Brienne >Brienne having any chance against the Night King
Kek
David Flores
It's the same shit as "discord tranny". Painting everyone who disagrees with you under a broad general brushstroke makes it easier to hate them and recruit other people into hating them without reading what they actually wrote.
David Sanders
I’ve seen the last episode, all die apart from Bran and Sams woman, they become Sliders and open a wormhole to another dimension, they find the missing Quinn sucking the titties of the professor and then slide into a gangbang with the wizard, Gandalf
Cameron Hall
>Sunk cost Fallacy: The Fanbase No that's the walking dead. At least here we know it's ending in like 3 episodes and can enjoy the final memes
Noah Sanders
>everything was pointless because of 2 seconds
Christian Nelson
What other franchises cuck their villains this way?
Voldemort keeps getting btfo each year near the end of the semester but at least he shows dedication to his cause by coming back in 364 days
Logan Mitchell
This is so weird. Why be a Yea Forums shitposter if you don't watch GoT? Next you'll tell me you don't watch star wars or the mcu either...
Hunter Jones
reincarnation
Carson King
The "real" Voldemort only appeared as the final threat in books 1, 4, 5, and 7. In 4 he actually got what he wanted. Book 2 Voldemort wasn't even really him but a splintered soul version of him.
Hudson Watson
He did get the ring there And were told something makes Gollum go off the edge, we don’t know what but it was something not present
Easton Cox
Well it turns out "Subverting expectations" isn't always good and somethings are cliche for a reason
I love it because the game of thrones books are basically a response to Tolkienn and the traditional fantasy trope, subverting it and adding a sense of "grounded realism". Star Wars is basically just a streamlined lord of the rings in space in terms of archetypes and tropes. So it's hilarious that the got tv show and the new star wars films are pretty much identical since they're based on things that are supposed to be polar opposites
Parker Hill
imagine actually justifying this shitshow
Jonathan Flores
This show is idiotic.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
Kek
Hunter Flores
How about we hold her to the same standard as any Faceless Man? If Arya can kill the big bad guy, should we assume any Faceless Man can? They're just assassins with a weirdo cult. Anybody can hire them. If Arya can save the world, does that mean they could have solved everything a long time ago just just by hiring an assassin to kill the supernatural king of evil? And nobody thought of that at all? But luckily Arya is one and she'll do it for free?
Adam Johnson
>when the solution was really that simple but no one thought to actually do it Really, this is just a very important lesson on making a mountain out of a molehill. Very relevant in life
Grayson Nguyen
Yeah but she easily could have killed a normal White Walker. Not the fucking Night King who's the end game boss.
Lincoln Wood
>green eye You know, if they "really" wanted to subvert our expectations, they'd have Cersei kill Arya. But they're too pussy to do that
Chase Martinez
Yeah so kill him with a fucking dragon then
Wyatt Butler
man fuck this show
Jason Torres
>w-winter is coming guys! >t.sdargs :DDDD literally never came south of the North
Austin Powell
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Hunter Perez
When I heard that I honestly thought it meant she would take out a few generals, not the goddamn king himself
Anthony Taylor
Because he was stunned that he came so close to death. People freeze up.
Kayden Morales
it's as clever as if Jaime whispered to himself "i'm the kingslayer gosh dangit."
Eli Martinez
>MY EXPECTATIONS WERE SUBVERTED THEREFORE IT IS GOOD.
yeah good fucking logic there smooth brain.
Aiden Murphy
Wait if the prophecy is fake why do Mel’s spells work?
Oliver Harris
>My normie wife thought it was great because it was so unexpected. Does she enjoy suprise sex as well? In the pooper?