It doesn't matter if 100 of us a fail as long as one of us succeeds

>try making it through without getting fully fired up
kek is EW secretly redpilled?

Why are socialists so incredibly retarded?

Pelosi said "a cup of water with a 'D' next to its name" could win AOC's district
Of course, she also said a cup of water could win her own district

>risking everything
what did they risk? the fact that somebody will make fun of them on the Internet? Even Sen. Feinstein said that she "won in a district where a glass of water could be elected if it had "D" sticker on it"
>to make a difference
everything she campaigned on died in its inception and not even her party supports her "difference"

What intern wrote this?

she said ASSALAM ALAIKUM three times in the movie for some reason

>Knock house down
>socialist swines talking about tearing down Western liberal democracies

Gee, I am so glad that there is a difference between flawors of leftshits. Not like the agenda is always the same, be it in eastern Europe, parts of Afrika, countries in south America etc. etc.

Women get coddled by society now. They can simply destroy a man's life by saying he raped her even if there is zero proof and there are no laws that punish this.

>AOC is literally a puppet who auditioned for the Justice Democrats (along with tons of other actors) for the lead role in their plan to run a candidate against a primary incumbant that can't be bothered to campaign, in a district that is mostly immigrant and non-English speaking and doesn't even vote, in a state that literally can't even field a Republican challenger, thus guaranteeing a win as long as she/they can get a small majority of the primary votes (which totalled a little over 17000 votes cast in a district of over 200,000. Yes, 17,500 people total voted in her election, not voted for her.) in a fake race against and incumbent who literally didn't even do any campaign since he's never had a challenger so he just doesn't bother.
>So because of a campaign loophole, she gets onto the Congress floor and then spends her days being fed lines to shout by her hyper-progressive Silicon Valley backers who use her to push progressive issues to smokescreen their money laundering and other bullshit they don't want people talking about.
>Oh and also her Chief of Staff is a Silicon Valley millionaire business mogul who used her and her campaign to shuffle money around through PAC donations and board seats and she either allowed it or was probably too stupid to know it was happening.

I don't know how people can think she's some big political brain with great ideas, she doesn't even know what she's talking about since she doesn't have a degree or study in any relevant field and she's just fed talking points but fucks up when pressed on them literally every interview. She's just a puppet being burned at the stake.

the first line in the movie is AOC saying how much harder for women to run in public office because they wear makeup.

They bravely held social-democrat, feminist and LGBT-friendly views.
With a rag-tag bunch of multi-billion dollar corporations for only support.

Causation reversed. If you're retarded or useless, you *have* to rely on your group.

umad Drumpfkin?

Pelosi can be pretty funny. She railed on the green deal trash too. It being anti nuke is retarded

I was watching "I think you should leave" and I guess I ran out of episodes and a trailer for this came on. I didn't realise and thought it was a skit for the show still

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She's just an idiot that has no sense of direction right now. On one hand she has to fight Trump and cater to the "Impeach Drumpf!" crowd because that's who they see as their electorate, but at the same time she has to fight off the invading progressives to keep establishment Dems in power so she doesn't get ousted.

She has no real strong positions or convictions, none of the current Democrats do.

and the Rethuglicans ARE principled?

Yeah, if nothing else. Having principals means having convictions you stick to and don't bend or compromise due to circumstance or threat. Dems literally bend over to anyone who claims oppression or hurt feelings, Repubs don't care because they want rule of law if nothing else. They at least believe that we as a country deserve to exist.

I just watched this

I've been in 4 threads so far.

Not a single poster has mentioned, once, what the film, or her movement is actually about. And I had no idea prior either.

All of the candidates in the film, including AOC, are part of a movement which refuses corporate money for their election campaigns. So they are not in the pockets of business, and can actually serve the people's interests, rather than business interests. Their campaigns do not take any money from corporations.

So it is basically, anti-corruption. But NO ONE in these threads has acknowledged this. Do none of you care that politicians act as shills for corporations? Do none of you care about lobbying, or campaign financing?

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also, she is a qt, and seems genuinely nice and sincere

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She's a bartender and an anti nuke NPC who wants to kill the environment

Republicans are supposed to be the party of "Christian Values" yet the trump administration is constantly caught lying, conservative politicians saying some backwards racist shit, cheating on their wives or divorce, paying pornstars to shut up, being greedy, etc. don't pretend like theyre not a bunch of hypocrites too.

>including AOC, are part of a movement which refuses corporate money for their election campaigns.
Well that's blatantly false.
influencewatch.org/person/saikat-chakrabarti/
capitalresearch.org/article/ocasio-cortez-justice-democrats-and-the-art-of-the-scam-pac/
washingtonpost.com/politics/payments-to-corporation-owned-by-ocasio-cortez-aide-come-under-scrutiny/2019/03/05/ae5045ee-3f61-11e9-9361-301ffb5bd5e6_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.450039b34c7e

>So they are not in the pockets of business, and can actually serve the people's interests, rather than business interests. Their campaigns do not take any money from corporations.
Again, stating a second time doesn't make it true.

>Do none of you care about lobbying, or campaign financing?
Justice Democrats, the PAC that ran AOC's election, is literally a political lobbying group.

>Republicans are supposed to be the party of "Christian Values"
No, that’s what Democrats want them to be because it’s easier to scrutinize

>conservative politicians saying some backwards racist shit, cheating on their wives or divorce, paying pornstars to shut up, being greedy,

Oh no!

Are you retarded? She was already caught secretly taking donations.

>this movement which is concerned with giving people access to healthcare and environmental quality is literally stalin
do you know anything at all about the world?

They literally claim it themselves. Like, all the time. wtf user

Being uninformed is different from being stupid.
Atleast idealistically, i respect her a lot.
And that was the centre of the film and the movement, so it's odd that it hasn't been mentioned once in these threads.

Can you actually explain it in your own words and say specifically what you mean.

>Republicans are supposed to be the party of "Christian Values"
I don't think this is inherently the case at all? It happens that a lot of "Christian values" conservatives are Republicans and thus that was the party's public face for a long time, but it's neither an inherent part of the party's founding or core beliefs, nor is it particularly important in the current political climate.

Republics at the core are people who believe in limited government and more local and public control, less centralized bureaucracy and taxes, less social welfare and state-run systems sucking up public dollars and wasting them. Democrats are the party of big government, more bureaucracy, more taxes, and more social programs regardless of cost or use. They've also become the party of championing diversity and social justice at the expense of real issues.

>yet the trump administration is constantly caught lying, conservative politicians saying some backwards racist shit, cheating on their wives or divorce, paying pornstars to shut up, being greedy, etc. don't pretend like theyre not a bunch of hypocrites too.
Nigga the Democrats are caught in just as many fucking scandals do you have any idea what went on during the Clinton and Obama years? Or were you too busy getting your info from The Daily Show to hear any of the real shit that happens on the left?

Yes, all politicians are corrupt assholes. Because people are assholes and can be corrupted. Turn over a rock in Washington and you'll find a hundred criminals. That's not really relevant to the point.

>I want to fuck her
>so that means you have to like her

Hey big brain you know there is writing under the headlines as well. Saying you want people to have good health and clean air is not a political position no matter how much you strawman the opposition.

>capitalresearch.org/article/ocasio-cortez-justice-democrats-and-the-art-of-the-scam-pac/
>Essentially, a Scam PAC is when a PAC raises money from small-dollar donors and pours the money into consulting firms tied to the PAC’s officers. Scam PACs are so deceptive, a 2015 Vox article likened Scam PACs to Ponzi schemes. Technically, Scam PACs are not illegal, but they are incredibly harmful to the political process as they can mislead donors and abuse the mechanics of campaign finance laws.

that's potentially electoral fraud, but it's fundamentally different from being seriously under the influence of large corporate interests.

No they don't.

No, it's a small aside from the ideological value she appears to hold based on the film, which is that big business shouldn't unduly influence politics by funding electoral campaigns, and that the people instead should have their interests served by politicians

Don't bother. This whole site has been taken over by /pol/ shitheads crying about how jewish people ruined their favorite shitty fantasy show or video game.
Liberalism/progressivism/leftism is correct and beneficial even when rept by less than ideal figures. Conservatism/nationalism is vile, ignorant and obsolete even when "nice" about it. The ones who aren't full-Nazis simply aren't committed enough -yet.

I've read your links now. None of them are damning. Thanks for wasting my time.

>Can you actually explain it in your own words and say specifically what you mean.
Gonna go ahead and assume you're illiterate so I'll speak slowly.

AOC is not a real candidate. She is not an individual with her own ideas or goals, she did not choose to run for Congress by herself because she has a platform or principals. She is an actor hired by Justice Democrats who are a small PAC and lobbyist group trying to use small districts of little consequence to primary their own specifically-chosen candidates into Congress seats so that they can use them to push a hyper-progressive agenda.

AOC's campaign director and current Chief of Staff is Saikat Chakrabarti, a Harvard-educated Wall Street & Silicon Valley businessman who made hundreds of millions in startups and by creating the backend system that became Stripe. He founded Brand New Congress PAC and started recruiting people to run them for seats after working with Bernie Sanders in 2015.

He then founded Justice Democrats with Cenk from The Young Turks (a company funded in large part by the Saudi regime) and part of a larger network called The Media Consortium which is run by George Soros. He and other Silicon Valley giants are also huge donors to Justice Democrats to fund AOC's campaign.

Chakrabarti also used AOC and her campaign (unclear of whether she was involved or not) to move close to 2 million in raised campaign funds to accounts that closed and were never publicly recorded or used for campaigning, before the election was over.

Should I keep going, or are we good?

>"let's cry and lie about trump and eventually we'll get him"
Trump will win the 2020 election. Screencap this.

None of that shows that she is specifically influenced in policy making by business.

Also, even IF she is a hypocrite, false opposition, a pawn, if she is equally as corrupt as what she opposes, the ideological basis for her movement is still valid and commendable. And there are clearly people in her organisation and who support it, that believe in it.

The idea that business should not control politics and should not finance electoral campaigns so as to have an influence on policy which regulates their own industries, is incredibly noble.

Do you really disagree?

She doesn't make policy, she doesn't even create her own talking points. She's an actor auditioned by Justice Dems to say lines they prepared for her, and her major goal is not to push policy (she hasn't and can't actually propose any policy or legislation, and she literally hasn't even been home in her congressional district, the one she doesn't even live in, to deal with or hear local issues since she was elected), her purpose and goal is to use the handful of other hyper-progressive Liberal Dems to create fractures in the Democrat base and demonize the Establishment Dems so that the younger voting block pushes them out and replaces them with yet more Socialist candidates.

I don't know what you think AOC is, but you don't seem to have a clear idea of who she is or what she does, and if your contention is literally only that "You can't directly form concrete hand-to-hand links of big business money to her pocket", then congrats for that, I guess?

I already said that I didn't know anything really about her or the movement before watching the film, so I don't know why you expect me to be well informed, or to blindly accept what you are telling me

'I think you should leave' was hot garbage

Do you think she's sincere?

>Also, even IF she is a hypocrite, false opposition, a pawn, if she is equally as corrupt as what she opposes, the ideological basis for her movement is still valid and commendable.
I don't know what ideological basis or movement you're talking about. Socialism? Yeah I'll take a hard pass on that. Environmental fearmongering as an excuse to create massive sweeping upturning of our entire country's infrastructure to the tune of trillions of dollars, all for nothing because we pollute way, way less than countries like China and India? Yeah, not on board with that either.

>The idea that business should not control politics and should not finance electoral campaigns so as to have an influence on policy which regulates their own industries, is incredibly noble.
And yet, ironically, you can only get on stage to talk about that idea after you've gotten multiple FEC complaints and are under investigation for "dark money" schemes and election fraud.

Yes, sure, get money out of politics. I'm for it. But have some principals while you do it.

pelosi is ironically based when she calls out le bug eyed socialist woman

>Saying you want people to have good health and clean air is not a political position no matter how much you strawman the opposition.
except it is a political decision you are aware of that right? We don't just grow healthcare and clean air on trees we actually have to legislate those things into effect? You are aware of this right?

>correct and beneficial
Liberalism literally created all the problems they're attempting to claim only they can solve.

>If I just spam enough links the mean people will go away
classic

>so I don't know why you expect me to be well informed, or to blindly accept what you are telling me
You don't have to accept anything I'm telling you. You can go look up all of this information right now, it's not hidden or secret. You can see exactly who pays for her campaigns, where the money goes, and what she raises, that's part of US campaign law. You can watch her fumble every interview and say retarded things because she's not educated or prepped on anything and doesn't know what to talk about other than the lines she's given. You can look into her campaign violation complaints and investigations. This is all easy to find.

>Do you think she's sincere?
Honestly? Probably. I mean, she definitely was at first, when she auditioned for the job. She definitely is one of the millennial idiots who demand change and think they know what's best without knowing how things work. I think she really does care for the environment (in so far as someone from New York City can) in her own "I saw pictures of it on TV" way, and she really does want to scream and throw tantrums in order to get minorities in positions of power and give more money to broke people. I think she really has swallowed the Socialism pill. Hell, I think she really thought the "Green New Deal" pamphlet her staffers wrote was going to be a huge thing, even though she clearly never read it.

But at this point she's just a politician and no ideals survive that sort of cold realism.

>American opinions

You quote one thing, and then you totally ignore the next thing you quote, and then you quote another thing, and totally ignore the previous thing.

I am talking about a single specific issue. Stop going off on tangents. It is incredibly unhelpful. It makes it impossible to actually discuss anything.

>Liberalism/progressivism/leftism is correct and beneficial
so when do i get free shit?

>this person who wants to do good things is bad because she has to get money from funding to run a successful campaign
fuck me you guys are really grasping, it's one thing to disagree and argue against a political position its another thing entirely to say "hurr i dont like that she has money" and pretend like that makes her unelectable

>Liberals control literally every urban population center in the country
>Those areas are filled with crime, poverty, homelessness, racial tension, and growing wealth disparity
>Librals want to champion and fix all these issues
>But somehow they never do and they just keep getting worse
>Liberals blame lack of progress on other people holding them back

>You can go look up all of this information right now, it's not hidden or secret.
You linked multiple sources and none of them were damning.
At most it implied election fraud, but certainly not knowledgeable influence from big business. Now you might say she has no policy influence anyway, but that's irellevant.

The question is simply;
>Is she in the pocket of big buisiness?
show me that she is, explain how she is, and I will change my opinion of her.

>I don't know what ideological basis or movement you're talking about
>>The idea that business should not control politics and should not finance electoral campaigns so as to have an influence on policy which regulates their own industries, is incredibly noble.

You quote exactly what i'm talking about. But you pretend not to know, so that you can shoehorn in all of your talking points. It's extremely disingenuous of you.

>Americans unironically believe this
do you know like the world wasnt created 20 minutes ago? There are historical reasons why these things are ongoing and it certainly isnt because the libs did it lmao go back to your prager u videos

How about you fucking have a read of what i'm trying to argue you dumbcunt, and then don't totally shit up our arguement with something they'll assume is me and which fits perfectly their talking points.

Because socialism and enviromentalism are literally evil.

But not shilling big business is a hard ideal to refute.

>I am talking about a single specific issue
The campaign finance one? I think you're being pedantic there. Like I said, if you consider it your win because there's a lack of direct hand-to-hand transaction of big business money into her pocket and that gives you the confidence to claim she's not corrupt and is standing up to dark money in politics, then I don't know what to say. I think your position is incorrect, and I think you're focused way too narrowly. But again, if you want to get that hair-splitting, then sure I guess you're right? I'm just not sure how one specific form of corruption is more important than others, but you don't seem to be engaging here, you just seem to be saying "But DOES SHE TAKE MONEY?!" over and over instead of discussing the topic.

> it's one thing to disagree and argue against a political position its another thing entirely to say "hurr i dont like that she has money" and pretend like that makes her unelectable
I don't believe anyone said anything close to that. I simply said she's not the candidate you think she is, and she's not fighting the fight you hope she is.

>You linked multiple sources and none of them were damning.
I probably should have mentioned, the few links I provided were in hopes that the guy who said he was literally completely uninformed about who she was could start doing some digging and maybe get a clearer picture of this particular Congresswoman.

If you only skim links and then race back to shout how you didn't see anything super crazy then I think that's on you, but sure I'll humor you and say you're right. I'm not going to dig up every link on every source and every bit of info because you can type these things into Google and start reading if you're interested in delving down the rabbit hole.

>show me that she is, explain how she is, and I will change my opinion of her.
This is not a particularly good way of forming opinions or ideas though. Assuming you're still the first guy, that means you're telling me your impression and opinion of a person you literally had never heard of has been completely cemented after watching a few minutes of a movie made specifically to support her, and it's on other people to wrench you out of that position.

I've given you the information, I've given you a few sources and plenty more you can follow up on. What else am I supposed to give you?

>Because socialism and enviromentalism are literally evil.
yes because its way better to have things like "cancer alley" and fishing waters people cant use and communities that are ridden with disease because people arent held accountable for the damage to the environment, the corporations who give people cancer by dumping chemicals in their neighbourhood aren't evil its the people who want to change that who are, give me a fucking break lmao

>isnt aware most environmental regulation in america was introduced by nixon a fiscal conservative
yikes

None of those things have anything to do with Socialism though.

Socialism, the system of forced equality at the expense of the market and without respect for personal and property rights, is inherently evil. Socialism literally only works in groups where everyone wants the exact same thing, because as soon as someone doesn't agree with the system they literally have to be killed or the entire thing collapses.

You're making the issue 'is she good or not' which is too broad.
We should discuss instead, what is presented in the film.
That is actually the topic.
The film.
Her in the film.

And the film presents an idea which I would have thought would be near universally appreciated.

You know what I find interesting, and which I personally strive to do? It's to challenge people who align with my own ideology, and find faults with my own brand of thinking, and evaluate strengths of people I largely disagree with, find flaws in things i love, and work out strengths of things I hate.

I think that's valuable. But if the question is 'is she good or not' and all you're trying to do is argue that she's not, then you're just going to miss so much.

>We should discuss instead, what is presented in the film.
I haven't seen the film, but if the film is presenting her as being some big campaigner to get beg corportate money out of politics, and we only want to discuss specifically that? Then sure, I agree with that, with some tentative caveats.

But it's also not a particularly useful or valuable position on it's own, especially when it is coupled by a lack of political principal on the speaker's part.

youre right about pol taking over, but come on man to say progressiveism/leftism is correct is about as /pol/ack stupid you can be

YESSS MY MASTERS, I AM TRULY ONE OF YOU

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bro if I wanted to hear an absolute retard completely misunderstand my point Id just watch a prager U video, Im obviously talking about environmentalism, but I mean environmentalism is kind of a socialist issue, poor people are the ones hurt by environmental pollution the most, hence why cancer alley was in a poor black neighbourhood and not a rich white one, but dont worry the free market will resolve that wont it?

Look at how the leftist can't help but kneejerk-ily shoehorn race into every issue.

kill yourself kike.

I think it's a HUGE issue, and the primary source of corruption in America
When politicians take campaign finance from pharmaceutical companies and then regulate the pharmaceutical industry

coal companies and set enviromental regulations

It's fucking disastrous. It's one of the single largest problems with American politics.

watch the film, you probably won't learn anything politically, but i think it's an interesting character study of AOC and a few of the other candidates. I really do think they are sincere and kindhearted people, and the kind of outsiders that politics could really use.

lmao nice way to completely avoid acknowledging you have no fucking clue what youre talking about and your bullshit "le free market will solve everything hurr" retardation is completely out of touch with reality

just another friendly reminder that there are multiple people posting ITT and not to dismiss ones ideas because of anothers vitriol

What about when foreign and defense policy makers take money from jewish-zionist billionaires?

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>but I mean environmentalism is kind of a socialist issue
I don't follow.

Are you saying we need to implement full Socialist tyranny so we can save the environment? Because I agree that the only way you can really make change on the scale the planet needs is to implement a full governmental takeover of all industry in order to mandate the kind of change that would be needed.

The point is however, that doesn't work, because Socialist governments are big, bloated, tyrannical, and incapable of running anything, especially not encouraging and incentivising the innovation and development that'd be needed to technologically change all facts of our lives in order to make sweeping environmental change.

How does a Socialist government provide incentive for a company to create renewable energy solutions? It certainly isn't money. Does the incentive involve a gun?

Also what about China, India, Russia, and other countries that contribute to global pollution on the same or larger scale? Do we Socialist takeover those countries too? And what happens if we implement Socialism and nothing changes? Was that just not real Socialism?

nice project there

yes, also terrible, if they are actually the warmongering expansionist settlement type zionist and not just an 'israel should exist' type zionist.

>but i think it's an interesting character study of AOC and a few of the other candidates
But it's not. It's a puff piece designed to convince you that the progressives are the ones who care, the non-corrupt ones who we need more of. It's neither critical nor informative, so why would anyone need it?

The fuck do I care that AOC isn't taking money from a corporation when it's literally Soros funding huge parts of her campaign?

its a little pathetic of you to not even try to defend your position lmao, like i know its an untenable position but I mean it's YOUR position you should at least respect yourself enough to try

>so much text
>so few images
shit thread is shit

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Should Israel exist? It's a fake state built upon genocide and war made up of a people claiming it based upon religious and cultural grounds akin to manifest destiny. I can't fathom how any leftist could say "Israel should exist".

Am I the only person left who doesn't care about politics anymore?

>Conservatives are literally openly racist and pro nazi now (see /pol/)
>Liberals are hyper offended and pro censorship (see Twitter and Alex Jones)

I just don't feel like I fit in anywhere. I like Yang tho.

>It's neither critical nor informative, so why would anyone need it?
Because it's an interesting character study. It has close access to her, and it has a lot of emotional honesty. Films don't have to be critical or informative to be interesting. Infact those are really secondary.

I don't think you're worried about having your mind changed about anything either, so it shouldn't be threatening to you.

What i'm suggesting is that it's interesting as a study of her as a person. Like any great drama is. Not as an analysis of her ideas.

Because this is Yea Forums damnnit, this is a film board. This isn't /pol/. Characters, drama and emotion have value here

You would you NEET

maybe if your biggest source for political information wasnt /pol/ and twitter youd enjoy it more

partisanship is what ruins societies, this is why absolute rulers are needed

A political movement of cowards

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>There are historical reasons why these things are ongoing and it certainly isnt because the libs did it
yea, it's history of liberals destroying families and blacks having an average IQ of 80.

>The fuck do I care that AOC isn't taking money from a corporation when it's literally Soros funding huge parts of her campaign?
Even if she doesn't live up to her ideals, (and I think that is seriously contentious and you are pursuing a predetermined conclusion on it, and making a false equivalence) the ideals of her movement are still noble and have intrinsic value.

>>"risking everything"
>what did they risk?

One of the women running quit her CFO job and went into debt and mortgaged her house

Im a salaried worker who probably wont even opt in to Yangs UBI because I dont need it.

Tribalism is the worst part of human nature. Religion, Nationalism, Political Parties are all just tribalist bullshit.

>I'll only damn this candidate if you can show she's in bed with big business

So election fraud is ok then? Good to know.

Have you faggots ever spent time around the poor? They're often the most crass, rudest, selfish, obese pieces of shit this country has to offer.

Yeah okay, so it's clear that Republicans are responsible for the homeless crisis in wealthy Democrat stronghold cities, open defecation in California, crime problems in Chicago, garbage problems in New York City and Los Angeles, and so on and so forth.
By all means, please enlighten me on how the Republicans led to this problem.

It's a different issue. Political discourse tends to devolve into deflections and that's exactly what you're doing here.
You can do that all day about anyone.
But it's unnecessary, because i'm not unilaterally supporting her, or endorsing any of her other ideas, I simply think this specific idea is noble, and I like her character.

If you disagree that's fine, but it's not necessary to change the conversation, because I don't have an opinion on the rest.

>the ideals of her movement are still noble and have intrinsic value.
This sounds a lot like "Do as a I say, not as I do."

>They're often the most crass, rudest, selfish, obese pieces of shit this country has to offer.
That tends to be why they're poor, yeah.

I grew up in literal poverty. Mobile home, trailer park, free lunch, food stamp poverty.

I went to a wealthy high school and middle school though. I fucking hate rich people.

>get a new jacket for Christmas
>its my only Christmas gift, was probably only 40 dollars
>one day during gym class a group of rich fucks break into my gym locker, steal my jacket
>literally put it in the toilet and shit on it before putting it back in my locker
>literally told me I didnt deserve that jacket to my face
>punch the guy
>get 5 days of suspension, his parents threaten to sue the school if I don't move

Fuck rich people

do you think blacks were historically at some point wealthy then the libs came in and somehow "destroyed their families" and they became poor? How the fuck do you come to that conclusion after looking at the history of America? Blacks werent even allowed into certain towns and buildings and were being assassinated by the FBI within huge chunks of the American population's lives I imagine this contributed to them being poor much more than anything the liberals fucking did to them. Also IQ is meme shit and the black and white IQ gap is shrinking
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17100793
So i imagine it exists less due to genetics and more to do with being systematically excluded from american life for most of their existence on the continent

You know how I see it user?
Big buisiness has a fucking stranglehold on the country.
They spend billions of dollars annually bankrolling political campaigns.
Those puppets regulate their industries.
It's not some tangential agenda, it's a cold hard business strategy, for direct profit.

This movement is a challenge to that.
and it's absolutely inevitable that there is opposition to it, because it's threatening.

But even IF you can throw out the person representing the idea, acknowledge the idea. Because if you think it doesn't matter, or it's worthless because of who is championing it, you're just a sheep yourself, just a puppet of corporations.

Now what specifically am i criticizing you cunts for? Four threads about this film, not a single cunt mentioned, once, not once, this fundamental part of each candidates platform (it's the single unifying idea). You just don't care, because it's not attached to the right head.

Well guess what? You're literally never going to get anti-business interests from the right. So you might believe all you believe and that's fine, I actually respect most of the rights ideas, but just know you're a fucking cumboy for them. And for that i have no respect. It's pathetic.

>Deflections

That was literally what you said. What you've been saying. She's a kind hearted yada yada outsider completely different from the bigwigs in Washington

Besides the fucking election fraud, that's fine though, cost of doing business.

nah fuck you cunt
actually watch the film before you come to shit out your garbage next thread

>he doesn't think some nutcase alt-right incel is eventually going to assassinate AOC or Ilhan because Fox News told them they were going to turn America into Logan's Run except it's just white males that get killed.

you know most homeless people live in democrat cities because theyre nicer to the homeless than republican ones like how is that a difficult concept to get? Places like New York and Seattle attract a lot of homeless because they get treated nicer than in some fucking republican suburb in the middle of nowhere. Democrats at least are trying to give them access to healthcare and education and a means to better themselves unlike republicans which lock themselves away in their mcmansions and ignore the problems and pretend the fact they're getting taxed at all is somehow an infringement on their rights

I recently read The Autobiography of Frederick Douglass and fuck me did it blow my mind.

I was raised in an all white town in the south and I always thought slaves were like butlers and maids.
Theres a part where he describes how his master bought a 16 year old slave girl just to rape her. I literally had to put the book down after reading that part.

It blows my fucking mind how bad that shit was. And that was only 150 years ago. Hell segregation only endedwhat, 50 years ago? There are people who are still alive to this day who were considered by and large inferior. It's really hard for me to imagine it.

Of course the establishment Dems have a position. It's whatever their corporate masters tell them. The billionaires have built a two party system where the same people run both parties, just that one party gets votes from racists, gun-nuts and christcucks and the other from minorities and women who don't like christcucks telling them they can't get abortions.

Lmao
You know I'm someone else right coming in at the end? Way to argue your fucking beliefs you cockgobbling bitch.

>You're literally never going to get anti-business interests from the right

Why would you get anti-business interests from any side?

I've had enough of you lad

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>what is a policy spectrum

because businesses sole interest is to make money and a totally unregulated free market leads to mass exploitation of the people.

Are you fucking retarded? There's no way anyone could be so naive as to think the American slave trade was about shipping millions of people across the planet to have someone to pour you tea and fold your laundry.

WTF I guess I love niggers and their garbage culture now!

Frederick Douglass was a jew

Literally my high school had 20 people in its graduating class.

When we learned about Little Rock, our teacher was openly pro segregationist.

Why is she always looking up?

Being executed by RWDS ordered personally by President Trump. At least that's their mindset.

the american education system is completely fucked in how they teach slavery and the civil war its completely understandable how someone could believe this

>IQ isnt genetic
yikes. so in your head every baby has the same potential IQ except ebil racism can stop someone's IQ from reaching its greatest potential? are you incapable of acknowledging that some people are naturally smarter? then if you accept that are you incapable of acknowledging that different groups of people would be naturally smarter than other groups. im sure you have no problem saying that in general blacks are better athletes than whites. but when it comes to IQ you deny reality for some reason. also, how do you explain blacks in africa also having an average IQ of

Not that I don't believe you on all that, but could you post some sources?

Did you know world war one sucked too? That most people had kids at 12 because you were lucky to make it to forty? If you had ten kids three of them would make it to adulthood? The Spanish flu killed so many people there wasn't any room for bodies so they just stacked people up in the streets?

Tech company CEOs are not socialist, though.

I'm American too though. I don't understand how anyone with more than six brain cells could believe that into adulthood.

>be deprived of access to education, certain infrastructure, neighbourhoods, businesses, and refused service in 94% of hotels on route 66 while george bush jnr was in college, the police assassinate political figures and threaten civil rights leaders
>this couldnt possibly affect people on a psychological level its just cause their brains are bad lmao
imagine being this willfully ignorant of reality

well clearly you were from a state that emphasised telling you basic information about black american history because its an actual reality in a lot of places that it isnt done

>believing leftist slave propaganda.
most slavery was pretty benign and the blacks just accepted it because they're naturally docile and submissive when you put them in a highly structured environment like slavery. there's a this american life podcast that covers how naturally blacks took to slavery without all the drama you've been brainwashed to believe from movies.

well IQ is strongly linked to literacy so in places with lack of access to education and literacy programs I imagine they'll score lower on IQ tests, besides the Flynn effect shows that IQ rises every year globally and that as more people gain access to education and nutrition these gaps will probably begin to decline

1 school, 1 class. Dumb and smart people in it.

Yeah, totally not genetics.

Not even mang. I just read a lot. I feel like "slavery was bad" is a pretty ubiquitous idea like "a lot of people died in ww2 because it was a big war" where you can find many different sources to support that idea. It's not like calculus where if you miss that one lecture you're just never going to figure it out.

And I mean I know 1 in 3 Americans are retarded, like two in ten don't know how many states there are, but I feel like if you're smart enough to type that on a computer you should've heard that slavery was bad.

>implying she wouldn't do this if she could.

Running for office isn't exactly cheap unless you're already super rich and AOC and Ilhan Omar fir example regularly get death threats because Fox News has constant attack segments claiming everything from them Soros funded actors reciting rehearsed lines to being radicals because they want universal healthcare and free college, both which poll in 80-90% approval rates even among Fox News viewers.

wtf are you even on about did you just ignore literally everything i said?

>Running for office isn't exactly cheap
Are you telling me she sponsored her campaign from her bartender job savings?

well literally in America in southern states they outright will teach that the civil war was fought over states rights rather than slavery despite slavery literally being the reason quoted in southern secessionist declarations its a little insane how twisted some americans teach history

>She could just win by showing up
>By running against Crowley, who had had the seat for years and had enormous name recognition, by almost no one in mainstream media giving AOC any air time, by running against a guy that Pelosi had personally grooming for years to take over Democratic leadership

Yeah, so easy.

>blacks were treated like violent retards for literally no reason at all
>simply because of the color of their skin and nothing else
>then blacks became violent retards because of this treatment
sorry but racism is based on logical pattern recognition and whatever progressive bs you believe is based on ignoring basic facts. bet you live 100s of miles from actual blacks

Source?

Said what?
It is scientific proven fact, IQ is genetic related and blacks dumber.

You say that but then there are people like
I

conservatives
>blacks are just dumber naturally that's why they are sub human look at my IQ look at all these things white people (but not me, I'm a loser) accomplished

no IQ isnt proven to be genetic this is completely untrue, we have indications that IQ is partially genetic but the fact that IQ is firstly dependent on you being literate which means IQ is to some degree not genetic since access to education means it is altered, and secondly IQ is dependent on economic standing, they've found growing up in poverty can cause upwards of 15 points of loss in IQ to children which means that deprival of nutrition and financial security impacts it again indicating it isnt exclusively genetic. In addition a section of japanese society called the Burakumin, a historically discriminated against group, have been shown to have an IQ score 15 points lower than non Burakumin Japanese, while outside of Japan there isn't even acknowledgment of differences in Japanese and Burakumin communities theyre indistinguishable. This indicates that being the target of discrimination can negatively affect IQ despite no genetic differences.
Finally we see that in my original link ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17100793
That the black white IQ gap is shrinking indicating that its probably less to do with genetics and more to do with environment

Where's your dad?

if you believe slavery was pure evil then you've blindly accepted leftist propaganda because it's easy to take the consensus viewpoint and you're too lazy to do your own research. blacks would be much happier if slavery was still practiced today. much like feminism has led to women being miserable, so too has the end of slavery led to blacks being aimless depressives without any purpose to their lives.

Not to mention even things from 100’s of years ago, like slavery and the bigoted culture surrounding it, still have an impact on society today. It’s not surprising that the South constantly has to be dragged into the modern era screaming and crying toward giving its minority citizend rights.

Just look at how white peoole in Florida are still fighting to make sure ex-felons, aka minorities, won’t be able to vote come 2020

It’s not shocking either that almost all former Confederate states had to be forced by the Supreme Court to get rid of sodomy laws because they loved throwing gay people in jail for being gay. To put this in perspective the Supreme Court decision didn’t happen *until 2003*

Georgia famously had a school that was still having segregated proms *until 2014* when national news got a hold of the story.

We never actually punished the South for being abhorrent and as such even hundreds of years later that Confederate ideology is still popular as ever. They just whisper it these days and pretend it’s a thing of the past so they can still get away with it.

Further more you still have that outside of the South. New York City is a relatively very liberal place by the standards of the US and even then they still have one of the most segragated school systems in the country because no one actually went in and tried to force change within the schools. Leaving non-white students stuck in poor areas and poor schools despite legally being allowed to go to better ones.

Long Island, which makes up most of NYC’s suburbs, essentially still has towns that are segregated by race to this day. With towns that are 98% white, 97% non-white, etc. Robert Moses famously built highways through Long Island to spilt towns apart and make new racially fully segregated ones.

Essentially as much as people like to pretend “that’s happened so long ago. Stop talking about it” these issues still need to be fought for and talks about every day.

You feed cockroaches don't be surprised when there's more cockroaches.
Liberalism causes the issue by ignoring the simple fact that some people aren't fit to survive.

no shit, the challenge in her district wasn't beating the R in a two party system, it was beating the centrist masquerading as a progressive in the primary.

>if you believe buying and selling human beings as a commodity is evil you believe leftist propaganda
I didnt realise basic morality was leftist propaganda lmao

I tell you what man let's try your theory out. You come to my place and mow my lawn and do my job for me while i get all the money and we'll see how happy you are after two or three years.

The South needed a post-WW2 level of destruction and leadership trials but got absolutely nothing but appeasement and coddling.

You sound really young.

Obama was the previous 'american jesus' and he took that shit to another level, and look how far that took you. These bitches are scraping the bottom of the barrel in comparison.

>no IQ isnt proven to be genetic this is completely untrue
So why i'm smarter than you?

>poverty causes low IQ
not
>poor people have low IQ
wow i guess everyone starts off as geniuses and then get dumber when they become poor. you also believe that retards that win the lottery automatically become geniuses? just accept scientific facts. blacks naturally have lower average IQs. not saying every black is 80 IQ. you can still have blacks with genius level IQ but the fact is that that is very uncommon.

>that stoop-neck

Yeah sure like Ron Paul
The conservative party is supposed to be pro-small govt, pro-non intrusive govtand closer to the constitution
100 years ago Bible thumpers wanted the govt to control every single substance a person could use
That movement was also led by social progressives, as they believed that it was the healthiest for society to be
You need to stop seeing strawmen everywhere

>woah this is so much different than slavery to corporations

>>poverty causes low IQ
>not
>>poor people have low IQ
>wow i guess everyone starts off as geniuses and then get dumber when they become poor. you also believe that retards that win the lottery automatically become geniuses? just accept scientific facts. blacks naturally have lower average IQs. not saying every black is 80 IQ. you can still have blacks with genius level IQ but the fact is that that is very uncommon.
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.0956-7976.2003.psci_1475.x
except youre completely wrong and poverty does play a big role in lowering IQ this is an indisputable fact, IQ is very obviously not exclusively genetic there are numerous environmental factors that influence it, if you want to say black IQ is exclusively because of genetics youre incorrect, we've seen that since the Civil Rights act black IQ rise 4-7 points against white IQ indicating that being treated better by society impacts IQ results, stop being willfully ignorant and accept the truth

>drugs like weed, mushrooms, acid become popular
>government realizes people are questioning shit
>civil rights movement happens
>government realizes that a lot of blacks use these drugs, especially weed
>create the war on drugs, destroying any chance blacks had of creating families

Guess what party is pro drug war?

>the compassionate conservative wasnt a big play used by republicans in the early 2000s
do you people go out of your way intentionally to look the most wrong?

>he said, typing on his corporate produced phone/computer that probably uses windows and runs a proprietary browser, not to mention spies on him
Why don't you change first instead of wanting everyone to change with you, dumbo?

Following every response you've made up to this one, you're a weasel coward. The topic will forever be a whack-a-mole with you when confronted with different viewpoints.

>early 2000s
>muh war on Iraq republicans
>literally neocons
Current Republicans are the party of big govt while the dems are the party of even bigger govt
Bipartisanship is a cancer, and sucking the dick of a "muh progressive" dem in 2020 isn't going to help you
At least support dems with an actual foreign policy like Bernie Sanders or Tulti Gobbard instead of someone that would open the borders to everyone to get more votes, if you still want to vote dem instead of 3rd party
Unless you're underage and can't vote, of course

I highly doubt it but would be great if thats what they meant and was taken out of context

>not going full Yang2020

That's tulsi* btw, my typo

Guess which party President said "I'll have these niggers voting Democrat for 200 years"?

regardless of how many paragraphs you can shit out the compassionate conservative was intentionally meant to align republicans with american christian interests regardless of whether or not the republicans represent those actions (they dont obviously) they still tried to include it in their branding

>apparently correlation equals causation now
i think you need to acknowledge the fact that poor people are often dumb. that's generally how you end up being poor. now if you come from a long line of poor people your family has IQ issues.

and if you want to start talking about how poverty lowers IQ then doesnt that mean all rich people are smart by logical extension?

Nothing, which is why they fall for anything

Yang has no chances of winning, same as Tulsi
If I were to actually vote for a major party, despite being completely libertarian, I'd vote for Bernie solely because his foreign policy is the most reasonable and he has a chance at winning
A politician can be a full blown commie, as long as their foreign policy is sane, no law they'll try to pass in the country will pass since the US is a republic and every state can wave a finger at it, so the damage would be small
It's the politicians that are establishment and would get shit slowly and surely passed you should worry about

And by getting a lot of small dollar donations. She won through laborious grassroot campaigning.

possibly Lyndon B Johnson but there isnt any confirmable proof he said it unless you have the primary source in which case Id love to see it and have that resolved

>Conservative virtue signaling
Unironically yikes and reddit

It's not disputed that he said it retard, just like it's not disputed that the Democrat party is the party of Slavery, KKK, and Jim Crow.

Of course they did, how do you think voting works? You try to appeal to everyone you can and try not to lose any in the process
It's the same with dems and i.e. SJWs.
Are dems the SJW party? No
Will they appeal to them to get their votes so they don't go to ie the green party? Yes

I hope you all like this face & virtue signalling. She's now reached celeb status. Even if she gets voted out, she'll be in the entertainment circuit for years to come.

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Its almost like the two political parties did a flip flop.

Have you ever heard the term dixiecrat?

>poor people are dumb thats why they poor
or maybe because the financial market collapses because people played chicken with it too long and people lose their houses because theyre unemployed and cant pay their mortgage, or because someone was forced by illness into debt, which is how the majority of Americans end up bankrupt every year and they were forced into poverty, or the millions of other unfortunate incidents that could take you from your middle class comfort into poverty the world isn't a convenient little place where everything is fair and just how its meant to be you moron its much more complex than just "hurr poor people poor cus they dumb"

Lmao, I was probably one of those kids, brah. Poor people cause wherever they go to backslide and meet them at their standards. Your dropout parents shouldn't have had children if they didn't have the $$$.

Bernie ran for office, was popular enough to literally split the dem party in two, and is still almost forgotten in 2020 (and will be entirely whenever Biden sadly gets the nom)
you're overstating things

I never said any of the 6 words pictured in this "meme" of yours retard. Hang yourself.

its actually disputed unless you can show me the primary source in which he is confirmed to have said it I unfortunately cant believe you

yes because growing up in poverty doesnt lend itself to creating model citizens you fucking idiot how difficult is this to comprehend?

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>muh flip flop ;_;

Oh really? How many blacks have been enslaved, lynched, and segregated since the "flip flop"?

It's obvious that the only way modern progressive faggots can justify their shilling for the Democrat party is through mental gymnastics and Cognitive Dissonance.

Have sex incel redditor

It's not disputed and why would I do your research for you? Eat shit and die retarded faggot

>Oh really? How many blacks have been enslaved, lynched, and segregated since the "flip flop"?
well it really depends on your definition of slavery because the prison profit system in america is pretty fucking close to being slavery

>dixiecrat

Didn't the Democrats just run Hillary Clinton for President whose personal mentor was KKK Grand Dragon Robert Byrd?

nigga im asking you to show me the source for the quote because I cant fucking find any primary sources confirming he said it, please help me out and show me the primary source that proved to you it was a true quote of LBJ or I cant believe its legitimate this is how basic history analysis works typically this isnt a ridiculous request

>waaaaaaa niggers dindu nuffin waaaaaaa ;_;

If niggers don't want to go to prison then they should stop committing crime

>what is burden of proof

Yes and the Democrats literally had to rig the game so she could beat Bernie, a guy who, despite being a fucking commie, did March for civil rights

Fucking galaxy brain post

>let's let slavery just happen because it only affects black people
christ i get you dont actually believe in your position youre doing ironically to be funny but you should really attempt to empathise with people other than yourself

Bernie is a literal cuckold who willingly gave up his microphone to feral niggers, he's a typical spineless hunchback hook nosed communist kike

>if i just say a lot of slurs its like im making an argument but not really
classic /pol/

Projection. Galaxy brain post is thinking niggers literally dindu nuffin and Law Enforcement aren't just doing their jobs

>only niggers break the law and go to prison
Really makes you think

>but you should really attempt to empathise with people other than yourself
Why the fuck should I ? No one ever did anything for me, certainly not niggers

If you werent using slurs your post would read like this

>Bernie is a literal who willingly gave up his microphone to, he's a typical

>implying there is any argument for Hernie Panders

Go back to redshit you retarded faggot, better yet go donate more of your money so Hernie can buy another lake-front house ahahahahahahahahahaha

>waaaaa bad words hurt my eyes waaaaa ;_;

Go find a safespace snowflake

>if i include a lot of hahahahs it looks like im laughing and not weeping like the triggered incel I am
loling at ur life m8

>in 2013 black males accounted for 37% of the total male prison population, white males 32%, and Hispanic males 22%
>only affects black people

well maybe because if you made the effort to give a fuck about your fellow man then theyd be less likely to live in poverty and more likely to not be a criminal you fucking idiot put 2 and 2 together

No it literally is not. The political decision comes in when jackasses like you th I just okay to steal from me and force a doctor to work at your whim. That's a political decision. Wanting people to be happy and healthy has nothing to do with politics. How you pay for it does.

>triggered incel
>not hideous subhuman bernout redditors who thought a shyster kike was going to give them free shit

Ahahahahahahaha no no wait *breathes in* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The real problem is democracy. No one should have to the right to vote, especially women.

Are these socialist kind hearted people? Not really, they lack the kingly masculine will that sinks creation. A socialist is typically destructive. They want to destroy all input/output controlled power, anything nuclear or fossil fuel based in favor of non controlled power, "green energy". It is these femme ideas that cause destruction. All political power is violence, and those with no understanding of the violence required for their vapid pinko nonsense should have no say, and should be openly mocked and excluded from society.

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Why should i bother? They can just leave MY country.

its literally the joke obviously prison slave labour doesnt effect exclusively black people you clowns you should be against prison slavery regardless of who is being affected but because you tools associate it with black people you assume prison slavery is great and should be done even though its effecting plenty of white people too, you arent interested in creating a better world you just want to make others suffer indiscriminately

>J-just be nice guise, poverty and peace on Earth can be solved with niceness

Cringe and naivepilled

Because that's how brainwashed you are. "Basic morality" please. Do you think these niggers were happy?

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>"hurr poor people poor cus they dumb"
ever hear of ockham's razor? you create a convoluted mess of explanations and excuses for people being both dumb and poor. but reality is much simpler. black people are dumb because of genetics and they are poor because they are dumb. and the best indication of how helpless they are to help themselves is that you think it's the job of white people to fix them. it's your soft racism on display and it's the most harmful thing you can do to blacks.

>by grabbing a few PoCs to spam her name in the Dem primaries so only her name showed up on the Democrat ballot

>MY country
and in what way isnt it their country too? They probably came to it earlier than you did desu

Or you could just not break the law and stop defending criminal scum like a liberal faggot

>basic morality

Yeah, free clothing, food, shelter, medicine, and education in exchange for menial physical labor is morally evil :(

because historically the argument "this is the natural way things are" was used to justify retards like charles II ruling spain despite being a literal inbred retard, the assumption that by birth people are smarter and more suited for leadership and this isnt influenced heavily by upbringing and environment is completely ridiculous and you know it.

Tribalism is why you can be a pathetic neet you ignorant shit

Because they're not americans, they're niggers. This country wasn't founded by niggers. They don't believe in freedom or anything that we believe in. They just believe in communism and violence.

>menial physical labor
>american slavery
>menial
american education everyone lmao

well it was certainly built in part by black people they were the sole reason the southern economy was able to exist in the first place, black americans are integral to the US economy and if you dont know that youre completely unaware of your own countries history, your country may have been founded by whites but those whites used the labour of blacks to assemble the country to some degree

Like, do you think I should just let my country turn into communist Russia? And just open the door to criminal mexicans? Who will pay my disability then if they're all just shooting each other?

So you admit the disparity is there and your dumb fuck equality on "probably" exists if the world were perfect. Every day I'm taken aback by how unabashedly sinister you idiots are

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Knock Down the House makes it sound like they're not attempting to fix government, but absolutely destroy it utterly. Pretty bold of them to be this accurate to their actual goals in the title.

>if theyre a criminal the government should just do whatever they want with you if you break their established rules that they made which are always 100% fair and not ever discriminatory at all
arent you retards usually in favour of restricting the ways a government can fuck you over? Why are you defending it now?

Even then that's just a lie because the only nigger slaves actaully working are just taking the job of whites who actually made this country and need it to feed their families but we know from the record most are just fucking lazy bums this 'hard working slave' meme is a total joke

>communist russia was of course notorious for its open border relationship with mexico, thats the most historically important thing the soviets are known for
is donald trumps twitter feed your primary source for historical information how the fuck you can you people be this uninformed

Equal rights for construction equipment! Hammer's lives matter!

Over 50p genes linked directly to intelligence. The debate hasn't just been had, you nigger, it was settled so thoroughly that anyone who seriously says "genetics has nothing to do with IQ" deserves to have literally every single other idea they believe reexamined for problems a 1st grader could find

prison isnt slave labor you retard. prison is a joke, you have so much fucking free time its ridiculous. and if you really think picking up trash on the side of the road is slave labor you are even more retarded.

>slavery just didnt happen in fact slavery was bad because it took jobs away from whites
is this ironic did you reply like an absolute retarded person in an ironic way?

they came on ships you fucking retard and the trains

And? Do you know how much better healthcare was on a plantation instead of a shitty dusty plain? They were fed and housed in places that we rent made of mud. That's their iPhone for the era, dumb fuck

your the fucking retard just believeing every lie that the jewish 'schooling system' tells you

try thinking for yourself for once

we actually dont have any conclusive proof of genes that are linked to intelligence its a pretty common thing to find that most genetic links to intelligence arent replicatable it's called the missing heritability problem

No, straight up, in the land of minimum wage, you have no excuse to be poor. Literally just spend your money better, it's not that hard.
>t. Lived on 80 bucks a week for a year

ah of course its all "jewish lies" of course how could i forget we couldnt possibly have a pol thread without randomly interrupting everything to yell impotently about the jews

did you have to pay rent how the fuck is it possible to live on 90 bucks a week alone letalone with a family? what kind of ludicrous spending habits are you expecting of these people?

what fucking alphabet are you typing right now?
qwertyy etc
thats the jewish alphabet
you think it's a coincidence?
they controle everything even the words i can say to cahnllge them, it's that bad

no wonder you hate slavery so much because you're a slave for not even thinking about it

use your fucking HEAD
THINK

based schizophrenic poster

Yeah. Occam's razor. When you see some motherfucker so dumb he spells it "ockhams" and expects to be taken seriously, you can safely take the simplest explanation which is "this nigger knows as much about what he's talking about as a professional golfer knows about space travel"

Picking cotton isn't hard, and slaves were way too expensive to risk grievous injury to them. Would you key your Lamborghini because it stalled on you?

How much did Netflix pay her? And who runs Netflix?

Literally their lives. Everyone knows old pervy white politicians cant keep their hands away. Imagine being a woman and intimitated by a powerful man to give your sexuality to be exploited. What if they decide to kill her if she defends herself.

I lived within my fucking means you idiot. That means I wasn't so proud I expected to be owed a nice life. Eating nothing but beans and rice like it's a third world shithole is cheap as fuck, and renting a single room isn't much more than that. 100% of the time if you are poor in America it is due to your own poor planning.

>this thread
I'm so glad I took the centrism pill.
>y-you think you're so much better than us
Yes I do, because I actually take the time to research each issue and make an opinion about it, rather than pick a side and have my opinions fed to me wholesale.

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>treated like cattle
>mothers and sons were forced to have sex to produce better slave offsprings
>forced to do labour in the southern heat every day for no payment and very little comforts
>sometimes the masters would just rape slaves
>or kill them slaves were replaceable after all and slave ownership was often among the wealthiest meaning replacing your property wasnt all that financially stressful
this is all fine to the people who post on /pol/ who are clearly not sociopaths

listen. every baby is born with a certain IQ potential where environment can hurt a little or help a little. like with height, for example. the point is that the potential ceiling on blacks is much lower on average. an blacks having an average IQ of 80 is dangerously close to retarded level for the entire group.

and there's no reason to go off on tangents about monarchies. and i would never claim that high IQ was related to strong leadership abilities but you can clearly see that whenever black people are put in charge of things, generally they destroy them.

>make 90 bucks a week
>I'll make a family!
>woah bro this money is tight
>government, govern me

>>mothers and sons were forced to have sex to produce better slave offsprings
Holy shit bros, were slave owners /ourguys/?

most rent is like at least like 500 bucks a month even in less developed areas im genuinely amazed you managed to last on such a slim amount of money without going into debt because it almost seems impossible without extra financial support, the rent alone would easily leave you with almost no money at the end of the day

Explain your pic pls

>he tried to have a family with 90 bucks a week
There's a reason all the people on welfare are low IQ

Literally every single thing you said was preferable to life in Africa. Remember that thing where we couldn't explore the Amazon for shit until we developed treatments for malaria? Who the fuck do you think sold those slaves, anyway. It's not as though they just pulled up to shore and said "hey I wanna show you guys something, just ignore the comically sized cage on deck".
Would you rather be treated like cattle in Africa or cattle in the beat country on the planet?

>black people: we built this country when we were slaves!
literally cannot point to another think black people did to help the US. it's like they're trying to redpill everyone on purpose, but they're far too dumb for that.

It's bluepilled as fuck to say that Republicans are principled.

Here's a way to cut the bullshit faster - politics is not about actual policies. It's 100% tribalism, all the way down. Winning office isn't about implementing change, it's about dominating the other group that you hate.

Ex Republicans bitched about Obamacare for years, voted to repeal it a dozen times when Obama was in office and raised tons of money to fight it. Then, when they have control of the house, senate, presidency and supreme court, what do they do? They don't repeal Obamacare and don't even make substantial changes to the healthcare industry.

Hell, same thing with the Democrats - Obamacare in the first place was extremely watered down and a gift to big pharma compared to what got talked about.

If you stop trying to view things in terms of 'values' or 'principles' and instead see things mostly in terms of 'fuck the other group', politics makes much more sense.

The human mind does not work in terms of principles and values - it comes to a decision immediately based on your wants and self-interest, then your conscious mind works to construct a justification for it. And what's more, people essentially pick an issue that they really care about, find a group of people who agree on that issue, then change the rest of their politics gradually to better fit in with that group. This is how you get socially conservative blacks in the democratic party celebrating gay marriage, or christian conservatives siding with big business (in the past, at this point big business is no longer really on their side on social issues).

mama mia...

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>cotton picking
>not menial

You act like they were skilled tradesman, they were on the same level as livestock

pretty large contributions to music and culture in general and sport user

>this is what the jew wants you to believe

Sad

Yeah, it did leave me with almost no money for a year until I got a better position. I still continued to spend less than 120 a month so I could pay down my loan for a degree. This dumb fuck meme of going into inescapable debt because of education costs is also 100% due to poor financial planning. It seriously is just as fucking easy as spending your money better, and always looking for a better deal. You're not allowed to be poor, lazy, and have your shit together. You can have 2, but not 3

No, fuck that stance, even if that shit were true it's still better than life in Africa

how old are you

>Risking everything
I don't wanna sound like a /pol/cel but this is a godawful propaganda piece, isn't it?

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True, but the question is how to get them back to Africa

it's a perfectly acceptable spelling....

poverty plays as much of a role as to make genetic influences in IQ almost meaningless, you can say all you want about "hurr its just genetics bro" but there is no available proof that indicates this when there is plenty of arguments that exist to say these differences are environmental, in addition the fact a lot of african countries have struggled post independence is obviously due to poor border establishment, and cold war politics, almost every african country experienced intervention from global powers in some capacity and although it wasnt exclusively western power's fault, African individual tribalist issues caused this to a degree as well but ultimately poor border construction certainly and the CIA and KGB playing 3D chess with the continent for 50 years didnt help it develop

>mothers and sons were forced to have sex to produce better slave offsprings
In other words, it's white people's fault that blacks are genetically inferior and whitey should pay a lifetime of reparations.

>her purpose and goal is to use the handful of other hyper-progressive Liberal Dems to create fractures in the Democrat base
why is this bad?

Currently 26 and debt free with a degree and my own car that's parked in a driveway I don't have to share with someone else unless I invite them over. It was a lot of hard fucking work for this, but it's a deluded fantasy to say this is impossible in this day and age. I was just fine on a 7.50 minimum wage in a state that's above the 50th percentile for cost of living. You know what that means? Literally no one needs 15/hr to be the baseline

>Literally every single thing you said was preferable to life in Africa.
you actually have proven you have no idea what youre talking about life in africa was capable of being extremely good and extremely bad, it had kingdoms, cities, communities and leadership and plenty of blacks lived good lives, slavery absolutely was not a preferable option unless you were to say the same for Europeans living in europe too that their lives would have been improved by say being taken as slaves by the ottomans

>bro poverty is just as important as genetics
>but genetics don't matter at all
???

>literally create the southern economy
>hurr durr where da black contribushons?
literally look at the fucking south existing as a populated geographic region you tool

This is what actual, real propaganda looks like

>missing the point this hard while pretending like you somehow arent retarded
lol

Right, because those human cattle were totally better off in baking in the African sun being stewarded by a people who have no incentive to keep them alive when they can just invade another village and get some more. Meanwhile in America losing a single slave would be akin to losing a brand new car. They were cared for so they could perform the work required of them. If you deny this, you show all your knowledge comes from propaganda

I don't know why you're so hateful to blacks. Your grandchildren will all be beautiful and brown and you'll be ashamed of your racism in 40 year's time.

no real propaganda is so effective you cant see it like the fact the US military has been inserting pro military messages in hollywood for decades without anyone batting an eye, thats propaganda, this is just a political ad if this is propaganda then trumps yelling on twitter is propaganda

They're fine with regulation that keeps out competitors, ie regulatory capture. The majority of the rich aren't hardcore libertarians like the Koch Brothers are.

what's your degree user?
have you got a girlfriend?

No that's you m8, you're the one who said, and I will quote directly, "poverty plays as much of a role as to male genetic influences in IQ almost meaningless"
Key words being almost meaningless, which would pretty plainly state you believe it's simply because they're niggers and the poverty just makes it worse

Universal healthcare is would produce less quality healthcare for everyone. And "free" college is anything but.

Male nurse, I'm recession proof. They will ditch every single other person in my office before they get rid of the one dude capable of pinning a crackhead down when the narcan hits and he starts swinging. That's as much datamining as you're getting out of me

no girlfriend then huh user
sorry about that

you absolutely have no idea what youre talking about if you think africa firstly is one big desert where nothing but horrible shit happens, africa had established kingdoms that often traded with westerners and could sustain a pretty reasonable quality of life for people living there, this was changed when the slave trade was ended which destroyed those african economies making them rife for colonising
Also yes losing a slave could be a massively costly issue, it's simply a matter of fact however, that the majority of slave owners were wealthy, the upper echelon of society effectively were the only portion of the population relying on slaves and of course losing one is a pain but theyre still not going to treat them immaculately, people used to beat their children in that era "spare the rod spoil the child" etc. you really think if theyre beating their kids over trivial shit they arent doing far worse to humans they considered property? You are being willfully ignorant of reality in trying to pretend slavery was anything other than a horrific black mark on human history wherever its practiced

>just give black people money and they'll get smart and stop committing crimes
fucking hell m8. you realize people have tried this in a million different ways and it never works. money isnt a magic IQ booster and whites literally bend over backwards to try to get blacks out of poverty but does it ever take? no.

>le ebin social shame meme
Did you not hear "male nurse"? Girlfriends are for established men, I'll have all the fun I want for another decade before I settle down with some qt fresh graduate looking for a free ride

yes its true
journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.0956-7976.2003.psci_1475.x
lmao can you actually read a scientific journal on this topic before you just jump right in and make yourself look retarded?

Beating your kids kept them from growing up into the kind of faggot who gets this triggered at words on a screen. Your existence is proof it was a moral failing to stop this practice

>money isnt a magic IQ booster
actually it is considering growing up in poverty can lower your IQ by upwards of 15 points, literally giving people money actually is a magical IQ booster this is an indisputable fact

>sorry
Why? doesnt seem to be bothering him any. I'd rather have a nice job I enjoy than a shrill parasite I hate.

are you having all the fun you want atleast then lol

You're literally stonewalling right now because you can't handle the fact that YOU acknowledge that there is a genetic component to niggers being dumber

women are nice and they have soft skin and they smell good

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You think no one ever noticed the political messages buried in triumph of the will? Is hidden figures propaganda because retards think the things in it were true or not because non-retards could tell from the poster it was made for shilling?

>no actual response just /pol/ buzzwords and weird enthusiasm for beating children
just another day on Yea Forums

No user, when you refuse to consider the other sides view point, it makes you the bigot.

It is when they generate it themselves. Stimulus packages can result in short run demand increases which cause inflation and subsequently devalue the very money you gave them. If you raise welfare to a certain standard, people are actually less likely to look for jobs because entry level ones pay less than you'd obtain on welfare gibs - which is the case for many of them.

id acknowledge it if you could conclusively prove it, there is no evidence that these differences are conclusively genetic and not environmental, the sheer fact that growing up in poverty or not being literate will make you more likely to score lower on an IQ test should tell you all you need to know about how much IQ is shaped by environmental factors, genetics plays if anything, a far small role than youd expect

>lmao beating children and slavery is cool fag get on my level
sounds like a great opinion id absolutely love to have as my own except its literally the most retarded opinion ever

Not him but ghetto culture isn't doing them any favors.

>literally giving people money actually is a magical IQ booster this is an indisputable fact
yea, cause wellfare has worked so well at raising black IQs. now they're all literal einsteins. what's it like living in a fantasy world?

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>financial standing influences IQ
>therefore we shouldnt have minimum wage
fucking ancaps cant stay on topic for one second

Prove what, that you said "poverty only accounts for some of it"? Or that the inverse implication is that genetics play a role in IQ? I'm not the original user you were talking to, I'm just pointing out the part where (You) said "genetics affects the intelligence of niggers" which you did like 4 posts ago, only tempered with the fact that poverty is equally as damaging to their iq

They are just openly identitarian now. They only care about race, gender and sexuality. "MUH DEMOCRATS ARE THE REAL RACISTS!!!" is a boomer meme now but was it ever actually proven wrong? I don't see how it is wrong.

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yes and how were those ghettos established? It wasnt because black people went out of their way to live in poverty they were relegated there by housing policy, real estate practices and shady urban planning designed to segregate you can blame ghetto culture enormously for its role in damaging the black community but those ghettos were created by whites in the first place

>this thread

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This has triggered republicans almost as much as that time she dared to dance on video in college.

Are you seriously still in the democrat republican dichotomy? How embarrassing.

There you go again. This is what diversity looks like. It's not some masquerade where a colors of Benetton ad all march in lockstep to preach about how faggots actually aren't that bad, it's expanding your viewpoint to places you never thought imaginable. Yes, sometimes kids need a physical punishment to be brought back in line,your job as a parent isn't to let them run amok and "discover who they are", it's to mold them by hand into a better version of yourself

be parents of little king. dont even make sure little king learns how to read.....i mean, what more proof do you need that they're retards.

White people have higher iqs than black people with the same money. You try to conflate the "environmental factors" you're talking about with malnutrition because you're an intellectually dishonest fuckwad but the real argument you have to make is that muh microaggressions can dock 15 iq points.

It's a class thing as well.
AOC has a genuine working class background and that informs a lot of her politics.
It's not working class parents and ivy league education as a lawyer either.

I mean, it was the GOP that leaked that video and then acted outraged that a woman dared to dance. I still find it hilarious that that this backfired instantly and only made her even more popular and liked.

Now listen here you lil shit

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>i didnt just spend the last 2 hours of my life defending slavery on a ethiopian carpet sample forum
>im actually very rational and just want you to beat your kids
can you stop being ironic for like 2 seconds

That's like saying "Darth maul is the one doing all the terrorism, Palpatine is totally different"

>implying
Face reality, it'll make dealing with 2020 a lot easier

no you fucking idiot there is an established precedent in communities that experience discrimination eg: the burakumin people of japan who have no genetic difference but score lower on IQ tests because they grew up in environments were they were discriminated against, there is no established genetic evidence that says these differences are because of genes but plenty that indicates its probably environmental, its not like we wont eventually know if it is or isnt, one day well crack the human genome and understand what genes play what role in the human body but today its simply too early to determine whether its genetic or not and my money is its probably not genetic

>acted outraged that a woman dared to dance
or you know, that it was more proof of her being a vapid attention whore.

>a woman danced
>shes a vapid attention whore somehow
how do you people come up with this shit? That dancing video must have really triggered you

Yeah the democrats having to deal with aoc is really disastrous for the gop.

Black people aren't discriminated against in the us. They're objectively discriminated for by every major institution and the only thing you retards can do to maintain your narrative is to pretend random interactions in everyday life are debilitating to the tune of 15 iq points. Ie muh microaggressions.

You actually watched it?

I'm a liberal and don't even plan on watching this shit.

the guy that helped discover the double helix literally said IQ is genetic. also, if you want to refuse racial differences, what about differences in gender? those all environmental too? women are more closely distributed around 100 while men have a wider distribution.

I liked it.
It's quite a charming small film really.

>Black people aren't discriminated against in the us
except you know by law enforcement, education, employment opportunities, infrastructure they use, neighbourhoods they live in, mental health professionals, medical industries
You do realise affirmative action in the US applies only to 6% of higher education institutions and its only Ivy league schools that take ethnic background into consideration when accepting applicants, in addition the benefits reaped from being black in these cases are nowhere near the benefits one gets from being a legacy which just means your daddy went to the same ivy league school there is almost 0 chance you will be passed up for a less qualified black person in america and if you think this is the case you live in a brietbart article and not reality

>That dancing video must have really triggered you
why? i wasnt the one dancing around like an idiot and expecting people to still take me seriously. she's not embarrassed but she should be.