I hated that scene

Vader has always been a leader. His group of soldiers respected him.

Not gonna lie bro, you NEED to have sex.

What if Vader was killing the actual cast as originally planned instead of some randos?

Also, have sex

Vader was never Hitler. The closest comparison would be an SS officer and even that was a stretch.
And who said Hitler wouldn't if he had the chance? "Some" kings went into battles anyway

have sex. Please have sex.

The scene sucks not because it isn't tacticool enough, but because it annihilates Vader's gravitas. It makes him out to be an awesome killer who mulches people with a sword omg hes so badass!! Stop. Nobody but brainlets needs flashy killing scenes to be convinced that Darth Vader is a badass. He's DARTH VADER. He's one of the most iconic villains in the history of film. And what made him so iconic was -- his gravitas. Think how much of Vader's character is just shots of him menacingly standing there or striding around. He's not just a badass, he's secure in his badassery. He doesn't need to do the fighting, he has minions to unquestioningly serve that need. If they fail or all are killed, that matters absolutely nothing to him. The only people he needs to fight are worthy opponents who he wishes to personally confront -- his fellow Jedi. Basically, the scene is just a bunch of kids who can't believe they get to film a scene with Darth Vader in it jacking off into a camera never considering how foolish they look.

It also puts a stupid new read on Leia and Vader's confrontation in ANH. A diplomatic mission to Alderaan? She must think he's the stupidest motherfucker alive to give him a line like that, come on.

And why wouldn't he use the same excessive style when he fought Kenobi a few hours later?

You complain about this scene but TFA as a whole is pointless fan service. It's one thing to have a cool sequence but copying ANH and ESB is just plain sloppy.

>just a few minutes later he'll be back on Leia's ship
You don't know that, it could be weeks later.
Also Vader is a psychopath, not an operator doing things right.

>You don't know that, it could be weeks later.
Hmmmm, ackshually...

I fucking loved that scene. It was the best part of the movie.

Your point ?

>this is a diplomatic s...
>those are my lightsaber marks on your door. They are still warm. How stupid do you think I am?

Sith love getting an opportunity to use their power. Vader is more stoic about it than Sheev who cackles like a madman when he gets to have fun.

This. There isn't a single time Vader took the lead and personally lead the attack in the OT. He waits until the troopers have secured Leias ship before stepping onto it, he only goes after Obi Wan on the Death Star, he doesn't go after Luke in his Tie fighter until most of the rebel ships are blown up, he doesn't lead the attack on the Hoth base, he doesn't do anything on Endor. Vader isn't some badass leader of men struggle fucking through the front lines, he's an arrogant tyrant who makes others do the work for him.

He was in a hurry in Rogue One

Did you forget the original movies, you retard?

1. Vader boards the ship personally arresting Leia
2. Vader personally chases Luke into the trench
3. Vader personally leads the ground assault on Hoth
4. Vader personally oversees the capture of Han
5. Vader personally goes to Endor because he knows the rebel forces are attacking

YOU ARE LEGIT ABSOLUTELY RETARDED

Didn't he just deflect most of the shots with force shield?

No. His arm is amored.

LITERALLY gets his superpowers from anger, suffering, fear, hatred
And those superpowers are blaster deflection, telekinesis, agility, mind control
> "Lead from the back bro, get a nice desk somewhere and do logistics"

He was winded from the previous fight

Fan service is bad! The guys on Yea Forums said so! Look guys I hate Star Wars and capeshit like you do!

I find it weird that this scene, which is such clear fanservice and adds almost nothing to the story, can be universally accepted as one of the best parts of disneywars and SIMULTANEOUSLY TLJ can release a year later and journalists proceed to publish a hundred articles about how fanservice would have been stupid and childish and Luke dying alone in the middle of nowhere after doing pretty much nothing is actually a really good thing.

Agree. Feel similar about Kylo. He's a force using badass in TFA, but has trouble fending off the Praetorian guards in TLJ?

Destroy the past. Also the past is so cool and watch me fangasm over these references to the OT! But yeah, it's time for new heroes. OMG THE MILLENNIUM FALCON!

youtube.com/watch?v=uHH6YVHGh90

I always thought this was force shield. Always seemed a lot cooler that way.

I like how Vader has a colostomy bag and could potentially be defecating in any scene throughout the original trilogy. He’s definitely filling the bag at the end of rots.

The scene itself didn't bother me, just that as a direct lead-in to the events of the original Star Wars, it doesn't gel with what we see of Vader in that film. I mean, if he could do all THAT, why did he fight so sluggishly and lethargically against Obi-Wan a day or two later?

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>muh fanservice
i hate that this term beloved by pseuds and edgelords has become so prominent
This scene is an obvious example of 'if you want something done right, do it yourself'
Vader shows up as the Empire is getting beat by the rebs and immediately starts turning the tide.
he personally boards the ship to persue the plans because he's a blunt object at this point, a thug of the emperor.
The rebels escape but he catches up, and disables their ship.
at that point there is no need for him to clear another room full of soldiers who have set up an ambush and sends in the stormtroopers.
as another user pointed out, Vader shows up time and time again to do shit personally, they just didn't have the effects at the time, and the character was simply not as developed as he is today.
if you were a fan of the eu, you'd seen vader do shit like this before, and it was great to see it on screen.
>muh fanservice
you mean a scene demonstrating the power of one of the greatest villains of all time that the fans would love?
I have no problem with that.

I think we can all agree that movie making has made huge leaps since the vader/obi fight.
you do realize these are movies not reality right?
suspension of disbelief

>I mean, if he could do all THAT, why did he fight so sluggishly and lethargically against Obi-Wan a day or two later?

He didn't stretch before his fight on the Tantis IV and hadn't recovered in time for his fight with Obi-Wan.

>why did he fight so sluggishly and lethargically against Obi-Wan a day or two later?
Lets say Obi-Wan is a much more dangerous opponent.

It's weird when you stop and think about it too much. But the lesson here is not to think about it

>awesome scene that redeems a villain's badassness after being turned into a whiny bitch
>"fan service"
More fucking fan service please, we've seen what happens when you try to NOT do fan service.

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Yeah and if Darth Vader/Anakin was such a great pilot and also had Spidey Sense Force Powers, how did he let the Millennium Falcon sneak up on him at the end of Star Wars?

These movies have always made shit up as they went along and never actually fit together all that well. Rogue One portraying Vader as a nimble, unstoppable killing machine five minutes before he's portrayed as a lumbering Frankenstein monster in the chronologically next film is hardly anything new to this franchise's continuity.

She's a spy, nigga. What's she supposed to do, immediately admit to everything and give up?

>which is such clear fanservice
How do you make a movie about the Empire without including Vader or characterising him in a way that's consistent with his other appearances? This becomes a kind of philosophical question where apparently anything that's logical is bad because we... shouldn't be allowed to have it or something? I mean what is your point?

"Fan service" has come to be defined as "anything included to appeal to the paying customers". And since "fan service" is seen as a negative thing, we end up with "subversive" films that go out of their way not to include anything that might appeal to the existing customer base, because appealing to them is bad.

But the movies still end up making a billion dollars globally even without appealing to the existing customer base with "fan service" so I guess it doesn't matter WHAT they put in the movie so long as it has "Star Wars Episode ___" in the title.

He should have farted and used the force to put the fart in a rebel's mouth.

Yeah what kind of leader would fight with his men and inspire them to great deeds of valor.

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>the movies still end up making a billion dollars globally even without appealing to the existing customer base with "fan service"
>I guess it doesn't matter WHAT they put in the movie so long as it has "Star Wars Episode ___" in the title
Yet to be seen. A fuck ton of people went into TLJ spoiler blind & would've insisted on seeing it for themselves even if they'd been told it ruined Luke.
The very next film flopped fucking hard, and they KNOW IX is in deep trouble, otherwise they wouldn't have JUST dropped the first trailer the year of release.

>didn't read what I wrote literally right after "fanservice".
Jesus christ the state of this board... It's fanservice because it literally added nothing to the story. The story was about them stealing the death star plans. Then, after they'd done that and all died, there's a pretty pointless scene just to remind us of A New Hope because OMG I SAW THAT FILM!!!
Fuck. And worse, I even wrote that despite this, it's pretty universally accepted as the best scene from disneywars

Just because something is done well with a certain character doesn't mean it has to be fan service.
And even if it was, the scene itself was good.
I don't see what your issue is.

>1. Vader boards the ship personally arresting Leia
After his men killed everyone guarding her.
>2. Vader personally chases Luke into the trench
I'll give you that. Probably because since Lucas didn't know Star Wars would go on as a franchise he gave Vader something to do at the end as opposed to just sitting on the Death Star.
>3. Vader personally leads the ground assault on Hoth
He goes down to the base after his men captured it and played no role in the actual assault.
>4. Vader personally oversees the capture of Han
Oversees but doesn't actively do the capturing himself. It was Boba Fett that tracked Han and gave Vader the information.
>5. Vader personally goes to Endor because he knows the rebel forces are attacking
No, he goes there because Luke was there and leaves the second Luke is with him.

What I find incredible is that he didn't get sucked into space in this scene

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>it literally added nothing to the story
Does the film have another scene that plays out the same way? I'm not talking just in the sense that a bunch of good guys die, I mean having roughly the same context, tone, and style and featuring Vader as the pursuer. If not, then it's not redundant and most certainly adds something to the story.

The Force n shit.

did you expect the man who was anakin skywalker to take a back seat?

why do secondaries on Yea Forums pretend to understand star wars?

>Fanservice is BAD if I don't like it! >: (

Have sex.

The force? Have you ever fucking heard of it numbnuts?

Like Leia's force in Last Jedi?

Underrated kek

>comparing a respectable cyborg with magic powers with a suicidal bitch pussy that only incels and germans like
kys

>It was fanservice in its lowest form
Agreed. There are people for some reason claimed to be critical to the movie but revealed their plebness by saying this is the only scene they liked

He might be afraid of the man who cut him in 2

no but countless other generals and great leaders like alexander the great would charge in the battle, and they werent samurai robot jedis who can use the force

skip the meme horror scene and just do a cut to black where ANH picks up

that'd've been kino

Because they didn’t really know what they were doing with the lightsaber choreography in ANH.

This. Millennial autists collectively kys.

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>It's not good unless it SUBVERTS MY EXPECTATIONS

Ah, I see you are a fan of The Last Jedi, as well.

in all those instances vader has his quarry cornered and can send in the meat shields.
the rebels on escaping with the death star plans at the end of R1 so he personally boards the ship to fuck shit up.
they get away, and when he catches up, he has them cornered again and doesn't need to pull the hallway trick again.

That's not even remotely a good comparison. Completely different technology that forced a specific form of combat that barely changed until guns were invented. It was far more likely for leaders to be fighting because it would be the only way for them to oversee the battle. When you have computers giving you all the information you need and have instant communication, you can oversee a battle without ever being in it.

I can see Vader being a leads from the front type when he was Anakin from the arrogance he got from being so strong in the Force, but Vader dials it back after being extremely humbled by Obi Wan. He sees that he is in fact NOT the badass he thought he was and that the Force is the most powerful thing out there. He even states this in ANH when buddy went on about how badass and awesome the Death Star was. Vader then demonstrates why it is more powerful by Force choking the guy when he gives him lip about it. Vader is more of a let the grunts do the work sort of leader now because I gotta make the Empire run.

It shows the Empire as threatening, relentless, ruthless, unstoppable, overwhelming.
What they failed to do with ep VII and VIII and the FO.

This.
one of the only good scenes disney nuwars has produced and Yea Forums contrarians hate it
shocking

I never said fanservice is bad

>fights like a killing machine in that scene
>soon after has a geezer fight with obi-wan in ANH

As much as I hate these shitty films, I don't think it's ever outright stated that Vader was the leader of Imperial forces in the OT. In fact, I'm not sure that it's clear if he's even military, he seems more like an adjunct or something.

Everything you said is wrong. For some reason I bet you're a prequelfag.

It's a movie user ;)

have sex you must

I think the problem with the whole movie is it turns the throw away line of “there aren’t any live signs aboard the escape pod” genuinely retarded now, one of the rebel’s who helped get the plans was a droid and they new for a fact that the plans were aboard the ship, they didn’t just have a lead they were there so they should’ve just blown up the pod regardless.

Literally rogue ones moral in connection to ANH was “do you know how many brown people had to die to make your Lilly white lie”

Tell that to them fat ass cucked star wars 'historians' out there.

That line was always retarded
we made fun of it even as kids that loved those movies
Just poor george writing...should have just eliminated the scene, no need to question why they didn't shoot the pod
they thought they had the ship captured and were caught off guard when a pod launched, which they immediately went down to investigate.
I'm an OT originalist but if they cut that scene in a new release and called it canon i'd be cool with it.

its a movie for kids who cares

Maybe they needed to save ammo...for their laser cannons. It made some sense in the idea that this is an illegal search and seizure because of a tip. Not them literally chasing down an enemy vessel that JUST fled a battlefield

>And who said Hitler wouldn't if he had the chance?
He had, he preferred to go out like a cowering rat in his bunker letting 12-year-old kids to die.

>The Rebels launch an empty pod, knowing that the Empire will think it has the plans in it and blow it up
>The Empire, thinking the plans destroyed, will call off the hunt for the plans
>The Rebels then take the plans back to Yavin and blow up the unsuspecting Death Star

UNLESS THE EMPIRE KNEW THAT'S WHAT THE REBELS WERE PLANNING. In which case, the only way to be sure that the plans were in the pod was to retrieve the pod intact, not blow it up.

Why is Daisy Ridley's head so round?

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true.
also if rebel droids are on board they likely have important intel, like maybe where the rebel base is.

when women feel they are in a safe position, they get fat
daisy knows shes not going to be recast and can become a chub
just look at the females on GoT
they all turned into multi chinned piglets

Threadly reminded that Vader's ship tanking a light speed jump in Rogue One invalidates admiral gender studies in TLJ

It was the other way around though right?
vaders ship drops out of light speed just in time to pulverize the pathetic rebel shiplet

Sansa didnt tho did she? Or cersei? Or shit-acting Miscegenatiaerys the dragon KWEEN

sansa certainly did, and dany has fat face
cersei did not because lena is a pro