Now that the dust has settled

It did tho

It's stolen from the killing of Vaas in Far Cry, just as Tormund's neck bite of a Bolton soldier was stolen from Rick in The Walking Dead.

Strange. I like Fast and the Furious but hate the jarring descent of writing quality in this season.
I also view GoT as having a lot of Jewish esoteric moralisation (JEM). It's about the triumph of a middle eastern fire god (the lord of light and the fire breathing dragons) over northerners. It's about a small clique of middle easterners (the blood of Old Valyria) defeating the whypippo (the "wights", identified by their pale skin and blue eyes). Jon is even moses-like in that he's a crypto raised in the palace of his enemies.
JRRM is 1/4 Jewish by blood (and who knows about culture) and D&D are both Jews. It's not that much of a stretch.
Even the three dragons, one of which turns to the "wight" side, could well be about the three Abrahamic religions, with Judaism and Islam doing their part but Christianity having the potential to turn on Jews.
With regards to Islam, it is not a threat to Jews and never really has been. Secular Arabs, the more Aryan rulers of Mesapotamia, and the Aryan people of Iran have been a problem for Israel. Sunni Islamism has been a Jewish proxy.

have sex. seriously

The music is literally uplifting and heroic when the NK is going to kill 'Bran'. And the NK literally does what Ned start taught him to do. To look the man he is going to kill in the eyes and wait to hear his last words. He waits and waits and waits. And the 3ER in Brans body face says it all. He isn't scared, angry, happy, isn't even a robot anymore. He has the face of pure guilt. And when he looks away and looks back at the NK the NK responds tilting his head still waiting for his words.

NK was the good guy all along. 3 eyed raven is the bad guy parasite who stole Brans body and Tyrion will probably figure this out. And 'brans' death will be something Jon finds unforgivable. He'll use excuse that they could've found another way not wanting to face the fact that Arya killed Bran who was trying his ass off to become human again by destroying the weirwood network and it's magic.

It's not wrong though.

NK only kills those that wronged Bran. And has a habit of sparing Jon and now spared Arya.

So Bran killed hundreds of thousands just so he can attack the 3 eyed raven who took his body? Why couldn't he just write a note to Jon?

Because he's a child who's hatred has been left to fester for thousands of years. He isn't the same Bran. Vengeance is just as important as turning human again. Probably more important.

Do you just go to every single thread and post it? Does it bother you that you stole your meme from 14 year olds over at Yea Forums?

Its as bad as when little skywalker destroyed the robot central computer and all the droids fell down at the same time.

Back To /pol/ where you belong

>It's not wrong though.
So why watch 80 hours of something you didn’t enjoy? Are you that stupid?

You know this could have been salvageable if Jon killed the dragon then rushed into the Godswood, distracting the Night King long enough for Arya to get the literal drop on him coming down from the tree. Also Sam, Brienne and Pod should have died

Why the fuck would Bran wreck Winterfell and try to kill his own family? Makes no sense

you have to be 18 to post here

Ned doesn't have a head so he wouldn't come back. But really how many of these dead Starks would come back? The last to be buried there would have been Lyanna and her body would have completely decomposed by now

I BOST ON BOSHAN

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No. It was fucking retarded.

It's the undeniable truth.

It's been wrecked before. Literally when Theon and the Boltons forced him to flee. And he spared his family. Jon was surrounded by how many when he tried to chase the NK? 20 - 30? How rabid were they when they took on the dothraki and the unsullied? But again they did fuck all to Jon. And only intended to distract him. He could've crushed Aryas throat instantly. Could've thrown her. Could've thrown her to the white walkers or the whites. All he did was stare at her.

I'll elaborate:
The Targs are an exiled diaspora.
They're exiled from a place of volcanoes, and the volcano is a central image in early Judaism.
The place is coastal and in ruins, the way the third temple is in ruins and Israel is coastal.
It's not an entirely perfect 1-to-1 fit, but there's enough for it to probably not be coincidence.
Merely having blue eyes makes a person suspect of being a white walker (/an activate white supremacist?). At one point Tormund is almost killed for having blue eyes.
The dragons are also most similar to serpents, a recurrent theme in Judaism (e.g. Moses and his snake tricks, the serpent in the garden - which IMHO is a Jewish character).

Good lord shes beautiful

>Strange. I like Fast and the Furious
I could tell

Ok. What's your alternate theory for that number of coincidences?

in a clown world entertainment kind of way

Valyrians arent middle eastern what are you talking about they’re all platinum haired with violet eyes. Narratively their closest real world counterpart is Rome.

>It's the undeniable truth.
It doesn’t retroactively make the 4+ great seasons of television worse. Why put such a crazy premium on what was the B plot?

if you read the books you'd know that none of what you said made sense.

If that were true then nobody in the crypts would've been attacked
I thought the crypts were stark only

Are you dumb? They said ruined the show, so they were enjoying it before this episode ruined it all. They can't go back and just undo their investment. Retard.

This was
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Sure it does, and it wasn't the B plot.

episode was shit, then suddenly started to become kino when NK raised the fallen and showed the manlet how useless he is, then continued to be kino for a few minutes until Arya pushed the whole thing into the irredeemable trash category

>It doesn’t retroactively make the 4+ great seasons of television worse.
It actually did since the build up is still part of those seasons. Now we know the build up goes fucking nowhere it does actually hurt the previous seasons.

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agreed on piece of shit Sam, but he's GRRMS self-insert, so he'll live through the whole thing.

I don't see how Jon would've ever been able to kill the undead dragon. you saw how helpless he was against that thing.

It literally makes all the buildup pointless. 8 seasons for yaas queen pandering.

>Sure it does, and it wasn't the B plot.
It was, why do you think it concluded halfway through the final season?

this

>the blood of Old Valyria is Middle Eastern
>the "wights", identified by their pale skin and blue eyes
They're literal corpses.
>Jon is even moses-like in that he's a crypto raised in the palace of his enemies.
yeah dude definitely Christianity doesn't have any savior that rise from the dead after being betrayed

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what an lol xd

Because they ran out of time, budget, and the actors wanted it to end.

>platinum haired with violet eyes
Yeah, they're racially superior but not whypippo.
Where the targs win through liberating the downtrodden (Nietzsche's critique of Christianity - a Jewish artefact).
The blue eyed whites from the north are the enemy.
Rome as a real world counterpart makes sense, but so does Israel and even the Eastern Med (with its vulcanism) in general.
Danny brings Mongols (Dothraki) to invade Westeros in a way reminiscent of Jewish collaboration with Turks in the Ottoman empire, but even more so of Bolsheviks taking over Russia. I don't mean to entirely reduce this to JEM, but I think it would be inaccurate to deny it.

>Because they ran out of time, budget, and the actors wanted it to end.
You didn’t answer my question

And what ethnicity was that saviour?

*Right next to Slaver's Bay. Where the targs win etc.

This is much more like what I expected. A loss at Winterfell, maybe a few blows struck vs the night king but the heroes have to flee. Last stand at King's Landing.

DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

anybody have the meme of bran controlling the crows to stab the night king?

kino but where's jaime?

>Yeah, they're racially superior but not whypippo.
they're explicitly said to have pale skin and blonde hair
.Where the targs win through liberating the downtrodden (Nietzsche's critique of Christianity - a Jewish artefact).
the targs do not win through liberating the downtrodden. they're most famous for violently conquering Westeros through force, and the last Targ king was usurped because he went crazy and started slaughtering people.
>The blue eyed whites from the north are the enemy.
Winter is the enemy, and blue matches the color palette of winter.
>, but so does Israel and even the Eastern Med (with its vulcanism) in general.
Literally just because it's on a coast and had a volcano? So did Rome, in case you're also forgetting the not so famous Roman city that was destroyed by a volcano in a cataclysmic event, similar to Valyria. The place isn't even subtle about how it's a fictional version of not-Rome.
>Danny brings Mongols (Dothraki) to invade Westeros in a way reminiscent of Jewish collaboration with Turks in the Ottoman empire
So because Dany collaborates with brown people you claim Jews collaborated with brown people there's a connection? are you trolling dude?

Much more satisfying ending if he just choked her to death, crushed Bran's skull, and credits rolled, no music.

The three eyed raven stole brans body. Arya killed the real Bran aka the Night King. And Jaime will crush in 'Brans' skull.

>It literally makes all the buildup pointless. 8 seasons for yaas queen pandering.
All the whitewalker bullshit was secondary to everything that was going on. Sure it was in the background and on the horizon, but both the show and the books focus on the political intrigue and competition for the throne more than anything else.

Maybe 20 years ago when GRRM was first writing the books the WW were the A plot but it's grown into far more than he ever intended, with the political shit taking center stage and almost all the pages in the books and hours in the show committed to it

I know people were getting hype for this shit but i wasn't excited in the least, mostly because D&D have never given a shit about the white walkers and that was obvious pretty early on. We'll see if George still gives a shit with The Winds of Winter that will never come out, but i'm willing to bet it's going to mostly be more political infighting

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This would have happened if it was the same series was the first few seasons. But we've been in full fanfiction mode for a while now.

Because it was written by two hacks.

Retroactively ruined the entire series, not even rewatchable anymore

But didn't three eyed raven get sliced

Yes it was kino.

It was not good though.

Amending that, NK takes Arya's dagger and slits Brans throat with it.

Depends who's asking.

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But its absolutely true , fuck off back to redd*t

kek

This. My expectations had been lowered, so I thought the episode was pretty good.

>dany flying away only for drogon to be speared instead of her landing allowing wights to climb on drogan forgetting how to fly
you have my vote user

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Just admit it was shit and they jumped the shark.

this lol

>the breaker of chains doesn't win through liberating slaves
On further reflection and observing the map, I think that what GRRM likely had in mind for Valyria was an island off Greece. (The whole eastern med was volcanic.)
The likely analogy is Atlantis.

>So because Dany collaborates with brown people you claim Jews collaborated with brown people there's a connection? are you trolling dude?
I'm not claiming any specific case in isolation proves anything. I'm pointing out that there's a whole boatload of coincidences, that the series was written by a part Jew and some other Jews, and that there's probably some Jewish moralisation there.

Just so garbage...retards on Twitter and Instagram defend the holy shit out of this episode lol the only people that like it THAT much are people who just started watching it

>To look the man he is going to kill in the eyes and wait to hear his last words
yeah, that's why he kills Theon almost instantly, good catch

Don't you mean, jumped the Stark?

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based, and redpilled.

no pens beyond the wall

Can you speak English, thanks.

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Even these people aren't impressed

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>All he did was stare at her.
That's called "bad writing" or "plot armor". Pick whichever you like

Carlos!

I don't care about Ice Cunt. I'm just here to see if Dinnerass gets whacked or not.

I feel like they shit all over the threat of the white walkers. They had this big baddie who was hyped up over 7 seasons only for him to do practically nothing of note aside from stealing a dragon and destroying the wall, only for him to die as soon as he begins his march south. Where the fuck did Arya even come from? Shit episode.

That was the moment he stole Brans body. And Bran was sent to the past into the Night King as Bran is a skinchanger / warg and at death they are forced into the creature they're bonded with. Bran is bonded with the Night King, he even bears his mark. Just like Orell living his life in the eagle now.

The raven literally said 'It's time...For me to become you'. And every time Bran says he isn't Bran anymore. Even lets Meera know Bran died in the cave that day.

Just remember in GOT if it has a dick it won't succeed, if it has a vagina it probably won't fail.

Yeah, I know odds are that she doesn't die. But I'm not paying for this shit so I can afford to sate my curiosity.

This actually makes sense. Since Brann is useless in this show it would make sense for him to go back in time and be useless for 8000 years just to get poke in the gut as the Night king by his sister

“Omg she trained for 6 seasons for this moment!!!!!” -mainstream fags

But nah I totally get what you’re saying. Garbage episode that had so many plot holes

The wights in the crypt were wights from the battle, they dug their way into the crypt.

>my live reaction if this was happening last sunday
why can't dumb and dumber do anything right

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Also the Night King has been targeting the people that hurt Bran.

Wildlings tried to kill Jon. NK kills wildlings. Night King spares Jon at Hardhome. Night King kills children of the forest, blood raven, steals dragon, spares Jon AGAIN. Bran sent his baby brother to be fostered and protected by the Umbers and they helped kill his baby brother. Bran slaughters the last hearth and leaves Ned Umber butchered and pinned on a wall. Jon is spared again at winterfell. When he chases the Night King he raises the dead and surrounds him with too many wights to kill and they go easy on him. Letting him live and distracting him rather than simply killing him. The wights were savage with everyone else. But Jon is surrounded by himself by like 30? and he kills them all. He then goes to the godswood and the only person the Night King kills in the battle is Theon. Theon slaughtered people who bran cared about, seized winterfell and forced him to flee. Then when he reaches Bran. He the Night King approaches Bran he does exactly what Ned Stark taught Bran. To look the person you're going to kill and wait for his last words. And he waited for ages for 'bran' to say something and all he could do is look at him with nothing but guilt on his face.

And the music when the Night King approaches 'bran' is positive and uplifting instead of doom and horror. And then he spares Arya. He could've crushed her throat, thrown her to the wolves but instead just stared in her eyes.

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t. YASQWEEN

Grey Worn was the only one I expected to die going into the episode.

that was so good and felt like an actual season 2 game of thrones episode. not holding back from killing important characters. love it.

No. I finally understand why capeshit and Star Wars autists get so mad about shitty writing.

This, but unironically. I was a stalwart show apologist but this was the last straw.

If they wanted to subvert expectations, Ghost should've killed the NK.

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I still like the choice of music

Cersi was right to just brush off the wight as no big deal

WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST DO THIS I'M SO PISSED
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Seriously, she deserves to smugly sip a cup of wine after that

It’s perfect

support Israel

>her body would have completely decomposed by now
Did you even watch the BtS extras? They literally modeled the reanimate Starks from the crypt after actual "mummified" bodies in crypts.

It felt robbed, the entire time it had felt like they were setting up a clash between Jon and the NK, Nights watch Vs the eternal enemy, Night King vs King in the North, undead vs resurrected.

Instead we get Arya jumping in from out of nowhere using some assassination classroom technique to trick and kill the NK as his personal guard do nothing / didn't notice.

It just feels narratively broken and unearned. Like having Han solo come in at the last minute and defeat Vader and the emperor. Arya has been set up this entire time to be the one to kill the people on her list, not the NK, it's like they didn't know what to do with him and just wanted the battle to be over so they could move onto the Cersie stuff.

After watching that, it feels like previous narrative set up will be abandoned, and rather than having a powerful moment where Jamie has to be the one to kill Cersie, killing her in the throne room, mirroring his killing of the mad king looping him back to the begging of his story, we'll instead get Cersie getting stabbed by Yasha Greyjoy instead or something.

or

Cleganebowl wont happen, it will be used to have a YAAS Queen slay moment as they have Dany or Sansa kill The Mountian instead.

As long as I'm shitposting, the dust hasn't settled.

>Cleganebowl won't happen
Don't even jinx it, I expected mediocrity out fo the episode, so I didn't really care what happened, But that was the only thing that made me anxious, was if they fucked up and killed Sandor, preventing the Cleganebowl.

Night King wasn't evil. The three eyed raven is the real evil.

Let it go, you know its going to be a fight where the hound is outmatched and just before he's finished, they'll have Arya do literally the same move she did on the NK. It will be disappointing.

Maybe it would have been be cool if the roles were reversed and the hound saved her from the mountian, maybe dieing in the process as a redemption for the things he's done, but it wont happen. That would require putting Arya in realistic danger and Arya is the strong woman who killed the NK and the mainstream fans don't want to see her in any position other than in control and in charge, and D&D will pander to that.

What I want to know is how they did this so fast. Just what were they using for editing?

IN all seriousness, people having all these theories about the three eyed raven being the mastermind and time traveling looper story lines with Bran becoming the NightKing, do you REALLY think that's whats been written, you don't think its just going to be a big plot hole that's never addressed while the real enemy (Cersie) is fought. This season so far just feels like they want to get it over and done with. They know its gonna be watched because its the end, so they don't have to try and write well now.

premiere

I’ve watched it from Season 1. I thought it was great. No I don’t like fast and furious movies. I’m glad GoT isn’t directed by some of the Marvel watching fags here.

how dumb are you? the central theme of the whole story was about how the petty squabbles of man are ultimately meaningless in the face of an ultimate existential threat. it's literally the exact opposite of what you think it's about.

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Hodor.

TLDR have sex and Bran is only warging to see rapes in replay instead of carnage.

based

It isn't that much of a plot hole though. Children and men go to war. NK created. Three eyed raven is more mysterious than the books. he has apparently sat there for a thousand years. So his story is open to whatever and isn't the bastard son of Aegon the Unworthy and an uncle to Maester Aemon like the books. They've already done time looper stuff already. Ned hearing Bran calling out to him at the Tower of Joy and skinchanging hodor while he was in the weirnet causing a ripple in time that causes hodor as a boy to feel the effects of being skinchanged and murdered by a horde of wights leaving him a drooling retard.

And they can't answer all the questions. The whole point of the prequel being about the long is is they get to be lazy in explanations and pass that off to a new set of people as d&d abandon the series.

Take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue ya ding-dong diddly simp

Although it was bad, it was more realistically just the tipping point where many fans had to come to terms and admit to themselves how bad the show has been getting for years.

don't forget that they're inbred too!

but wait, why would Bran (as the Night King) still kill the Three Eyed Raven, knowing that means that the Three Eyed Raven will steal his human body?

Because the ink is dry as the old three eye raven said to Bran, similar to hodor situation. It had to happen. Hodor was born long before Bran and he became Hodor long before Bran was born but it was Bran who turned Willas into Hodor. So all he had to work with was what happens after the killing. Which I guess is the destruction of the weirwood network and it's related magic. He did burn the weirwood symbol to shit when he revenged himself on Ned Umber.

Asshole, and Jaimie is spared?ha ha

Or that even at the face of the ultimate existential thread, human beings are unable to change and see beyond their petty squabbles over who gets to sit in a chair.

hmm ok. Although I will say that when the Three Eyed Raven told Bran "The ink is dry" I was under the impression he was lying. He seemed very nervous, and the fact that Ned heard Bran's shout made me think that he could affect the past, but I guess Bran's shout always happened and perhaps the Three Eyed Raven wasn't as nervous as I thought.

That's.... not a very good theory. sorry

I don't recall him coming into direct contact with Jaime. Jaime was just another grunt on the field

Holy shit did the rest of the Starks plus Jon forget Rickon even existed lmao

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>It is when you realise the 3 eyed raven stole Brans body and Bran is the NK

Why would the Night King call Theon a good man and thank him? This shit is terrible enough stop adding to the shit.

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idk I still can't believe the NK is gone. I mean, it can't be that they simply threw away the main story arc like that. Maybe he'll come back in another episode. Honestly, wtf

Because he gave 'bran' extra needed time so Arya can do her thing. Every second counted. And Theon had just been there defending 'Bran'. Also he was just saying it so Theon would do his part and buy Bran an extra 20 seconds or so.

lol, how can you be that dumb

This is such awful logic I'm starting to think I'm talking to D&D themselves

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>Imagine being the Night King in that scene, having to be like "Damn, ARYA STARK got killer skillz like THAT?"

>kills the NK and end the WW threat singlehandedly
>will kill Cersei, the Mountain, Qyburn, and Euron
>after Dany kills Jon, will kill Dany to avenge her brother; also, personally kills Drogon
>heir to the Iron Throne is her son with Gendry
>as Queen Regent, will gently lead Westeros into becoming a democracy like Braavos
Feels so good to be an Aryachad

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Everyone who still watches that shit is retarded so whats your point?

i cant tell if this is a sophisticated bait or an actual retards honest opinion

>build up this moment for 8 seasons
>end up being a YAS QUEEN SLAY.exe
at that moment I asked myself why did I waste my time watching this shitfest

No it sucked but I will continue watching it just to see it end. I used to feel like re-watching the series once in a while but that enthusiasm is gone.

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Syria would make more sense than Israel (along with losing the secret of damascus steel)

What parts of the episode did people even like?

I enjoyed the music in the last 5 minutes or so, I thought the Jon long take was better then the one in Battle of the Bastards and the CGI dragon scenes were spectacular ( Although those were all outsourced instead of being shot locally so its not really something you can give accolades to D&D for. The shots of Danny's dragon setting the wights ablaze like a flamethrower and the shot of the dragons in the clouds were spectacular. )

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have sex

What's her tax policy look like?

>the guy even enhanced the lighting

WEW LAD

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The writing for this episode was garbage. The battle tactics... the fucking catapults. Whatever, it was "cool"

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yikes

not much time left,

next episode is recovery

5 will be traveling and start of war

6 will be end of fighting and shittily tying up plot lines

the end

This. It’s like discovering your beautiful wife in bed with another man.

She didn't even know white walkers existed until two episodes ago.

It makes no fucking sense

Ironic

Braavos will open it's coffers to the Godqueen Arya

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anti-kino

and I feel like an idiot for owning all previous season box sets because the last episode killed any desire for a rewatch

No, you think? The whole series built around a threat that was meant to be so powerful it would destroy the world and cause an age of death and darkness for centuries was killed a by a midget teenager women in some gay aids version of james bond fight scene by a literal lisa simpson.

>D&D write some retarded shit
>no you don't get it , it can't have been that retarded there is some hidden twist to it that will give it a whole new meaning
>there never is

This is the sixth time now of delusional people convincing themselves

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The three eyed raven was clearly lying. He was upset when Brian realised Ned could hear him and Bran proved he could impact the past when he warged into Hodor.

yeah, that sounds about right.

>is the sixth time now of delusional people convincing themselves
lol, that's exactly what happened. what were the other 5 in your opinion?

youtube.com/watch?v=A-a0yz_uUZ4
How it should have ended.

But since he was the three-eyed raven, he could have stolen anyone's body. He could take the body from someone from the past, or whatever. Why would he want a crippled body? He wouldn't gain any extra power by getting Bran's body because the power is not in the body.

Needed a greenseer to stick

>there is some hidden twist to it that will give it a whole new meaning

is this what brainlets think constitutes good writing

Well, Bran is a very good warg, and he had greensight, but he never turned trees into warriors or shit like that.

But why would it need a green seer to stick? It seems that the motive is just to support the theory. Not that I don't like, I like the idea though. And why Bran? I'm pretty sure there were others that he could steal the body

I was going to say while the plot was nonsense, as expected from GoT after S4, at least it looked great, but honestly I can't tell what it looks like except pitch dark. Maybe I could give props to the foley artists.

I marked the wrong message, my reply is here:

Cersei is not the final boss. The final boss is BLOODRAVEN.

It is known.

That'd make sense if it resulted in the Night King winning, not getting SNOKED

You made it worse somehow

>all those keks expecting Jon, Jaime, Bran, Euron or the Hound to have their moments
Lol no it's all based Dany, Sansa, Cersei and Arya now! If any twist can happen, it will be the appearance of the Night Queen you faggots

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>$0.03 has been added to your account

Moonboy is the final boss

...

Yeahh, except that he actually says: "It's time for you to become me", not "for me to become you"

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This. Normies finally started to see the cracks that have been spreading for at least half the series' runtime.

just use your poop and smear it on walls. i used to do that a lot too when i was angry.

Will Yea Forums ever let this scene down?
I know I won't

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probably not

it's hard to think of a comparable moment in a show as popular as got. it's such a monumental shark jumping moment that highlights the huge disconnect between the audience and the people behind the show that i can't think of anything you can compare it to and it's hard to think of anything in the future that will match it

unless you get more d&d bullshit in the next few episodes...

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That's the theme of Jon's story. The rest is mostly war is bad sentiment or just trying to tell a political fantasy story without any sort of message.

And I just rewatched the episode, and he doesn't tell Meera that Bran died in the cave. He tells her "I'm the three-eyed raven now. I must be ready".

Besides that, if Bran in the 7th and 8th season is the old three-eyed raven and the NK was Bran (who was trying to kill the three-eyed raven for stealing his body), then why would the old three-eyed raven discover about Jon's birthright and have Sam tell him?

>It's stolen from the killing of Vaas in Far Cry, just as Tormund's neck bite of a Bolton soldier was stolen from Rick in The Walking Dead.
>Strange. I like Fast and the Furious but hate the jarring descent of writing quality in this season.
>I also view GoT as having a lot of Jewish esoteric moralisation (JEM). It's about the triumph of a middle eastern fire god (the lord of light and the fire breathing dragons) over northerners. It's about a small clique of middle easterners (the blood of Old Valyria) defeating the whypippo (the "wights", identified by their pale skin and blue eyes). Jon is even moses-like in that he's a crypto raised in the palace of his enemies.
>JRRM is 1/4 Jewish by blood (and who knows about culture) and D&D are both Jews. It's not that much of a stretch.
>Even the three dragons, one of which turns to the "wight" side, could well be about the three Abrahamic religions, with Judaism and Islam doing their part but Christianity having the potential to turn on Jews.
>With regards to Islam, it is not a threat to Jews and never really has been. Secular Arabs, the more Aryan rulers of Mesapotamia, and the Aryan people of Iran have been a problem for Israel. Sunni Islamism has been a Jewish proxy.

This is your brain on drugs

Because the old three eyed raven is the guy who raised beric and Jon. He raised Beric to protect Arya as she kills bran. And he raised Jon as a shield. To kill 'Bran' you have to go through Jon. And even if Bran acknowledges that he isn't Bran anymore. He'd likely punish whoever were behind the killing of Brans body.

Remember when there was like a giant dragon fight or something? Cause I don't. That shit was moving so fast no one knew what the fuck was going on.

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I was talking about the episode Meera says she's leaving and Bran acts like a robot. She bitches about Hodor, Summer and Jojen. And she says 'you died in that cave didn't you?'. And he says yes without saying yes. He remains silent to the question while staring at her till she accepts that he did die in the cave.

The 3ER wants Jon in power and for Jon to become the shot caller. Should anyone find out Bran is really dead and the 3ER is a threat they will have to have Jon sanction the killing of Bran. And he would never allow it. Even if Jon knew Bran was dead he'd still execute the person who'd kill Bran. Probably Tyrion.

literally the same thing.

So after 1000 years living he wants to live more in another body and is planning for Jon to become the king so he could have a bodyguard?

How did he raise Beric and Jon? Since he said himself that no one could change the past (if he could he wouldn't need to go through all the problem of getting Bran's body in the first place). Also, Beric is dead in the book, and the power went to Cat

oh ok, gonna watch that one.

I don't think so
For Bran to become the 3ER means that Bran will be the new 3ER.

For the 3ER to become Bran means exactly what you're saying, that he will steal his body

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Arya took over the Stoneheart story line. And the show obviously didn't want to repeat the kiss of life with Arya so they had Berics higher purpose be to hold the door for Arya.

I think after 1000 years in the cave he wants freedom. Jon being a deterrent in the eyes of people who would wish to kill him would be an advantage.
Raised the dead because he is a powerful magic user. In the book he's even nicknamed the lord of corpses via the person talking to Beric who knows Beric is just a puppet and he snaps at the person to not refer to him as that. I think it was the ghost of high heart I can't remember. But they saw through the bullshit of beric 'revival'.

Raising Jon and Beric wasn't about changing the past. The inc is dry. If certain events are apart of a loop where time is non linear it doesn't mean every single action a person takes is non linear.

For the 3ER to become Bran can be interpretted as 3ER hijacking his body. And is just a less obvious way of stating it.

Fuck no, it had tons of dumb shit, situations where characters should've in no way survived, and wasn't even as good as the battle at Hardhome, the wall, or the Battle of the Bastards. Those battles had parts that were implausible sure but this one had people getting swarmed by undead and then just shrugging it off because of their main character armor repeatedly for two hours.

> Arya took over the Stoneheart story line.
Yeah, that would be a good end for Cat in the books

His motive of just wanting to live more doesn't feel good enough for me. Maybe the 3ER was a green seer a long time ago and when the Starks killed all the others he wanted revenge on the Starks and he's executing this plan.

Or maybe he's much older than 1000 years and what he's doing to Bran is something that he has done over and over.

You mean for Bran to become the 3ER. It does make sense but it also feels like we're pushing the argument here just to make the theory work

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Why didn't Arya turn into a white walker? It's clearly been shown in the show that the night kings touch turns a person into a white walker as seen in pic related. Additionally it's also been shown that a person doesn't need to be a baby to become a white walker since benjen started to turn into a white walker before the children of the forest stopped it.

So is Arya going to turn into a white walker?

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Another thing that bothers me, why would Bran take over the NK body? The NK had his powers before the 3ER allegedly took Bran's body. It would be pretty impossible to force his soul into the NK.

And why would the NK put his mark on Bran if he wasn't Bran in the NK body?

Also, Bran wouldn't let the dead kill Summer.

All the reaction videos of bars of people screaming in excitement for this moment sicken me
The average person really is retarded and will eat up any old shit
I really just hate other people

Why could the wights break out of the (presumably stone) crypts but that one they transported to Kings Landing couldn't break out of the wooden crate they kept it in?

lol these are the people who like game of thrones

they don't even fucking understand it's themses

fucking public school is pointless

When a Warg dies their consciousness goes into the creature they are bonded to. Bran is bonded to the NK via his mark. And obtaining the mark was through seemingly impossible circumstances. They should not have been able to see each other in the wiernet. The only person Bran could see was Bloodraven because they were hopping in at the same time from the same hub.

The mark was possibly trying to body hop back into young bran. Or simply placing a tracker / breaking the ward.

And the NK already having his powers before is the same explanation as why Willas turned into Hodor when Bran wasn't even Born yet.

Bran was born long after Hodor. Hodor was around the same age as Neds father. But it was Bran who gave him brain damage because there are certain events that take place that aren't on the liner timeline of point a to point b.

If low iq people didnt exist writers wouldnt be able to get away with this shit

As Ned not Neds father*

so you think cersei and dany will kill everyone and become lesbian queens?

that would be hilarious

You faggots seem to miss the point. This wasn't bad, this was horrendous and killed the foundations of the entire series. Because the entire series John was sold as the promised prince (azor ahai was never mentioned but still), but just a regular girl with ninja skills and a valirian dagger was enough to kill the knight king? after the NK received fire from the dragon it was clear to me that he couldn't be killed in a conventional way so of course i had hope, but nope, everything crushed just because they went full Shyamalan mode to surprise normies. Nice and all, but what was the point then, from the begginning, to make John? was was Rhaegal's plan then? he knew about the azor ahai prophecy, he knew about the wofl and the dragon. If in the series this wasn't a thing and john being the promised prince only means he is just the king, then why Rahegal came with all the trouble, because he knew "kidnapping" Lyana Stark (we know she wasn't kidnapped) was going to ruin westeros with a massive war and probably put his entire family at risk (which ended up happenning)? why would he then? he already had an heir (a son and a doughter i believe), everything was smooth, the mad king was probably close to die. Everything seemed just right, but instead of following a prophecy of the one destined to defeat the NK once again he just felt horny and wanted to fuck a northern woman.

Great. Thanks. Fuck you.

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I hope it gets re-adapted one day after fatty finishes the books

i don't think D&D have the mental capacity to think past 1+1=2

So that warg from the wildlings did try to force his soul into a woman before he thinks about his animal and wargs into it.

> And the NK already having his powers before is the same explanation as why Willas turned into Hodor when Bran wasn't even Born yet.
Assuming Bran would warg into NK because he was bound (which is not the same as warging into your animal that you warged so many times before), that would have happen in the present, not in the past. So Bran would have warged in the present NK. Also, Bran is not dead. If the 3ER warged into Bran then his soul is still there but unable to do anything. Bran never killed Hodor when warging into him.

> And the NK already having his powers before is the same explanation as why Willas turned into Hodor when Bran wasn't even Born yet.
The NK got his powers when he was turned into a weapon by the children of the forest, not because Bran went into the past.

Also, Willys became Hodor because Willys could hear Meera shouting to hold the door. So technically it was Meera through Bran that gave him the brain damage.

Also, Bran killing Hodor and Summer is just plain nonsense. Even if it was to get to the 3ER who would be in his body.

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So brave, so powerful! Now go outside and ask a girl if she would give you a "good guy" checkmark on you "good guy" pass because of that comment.

how much pusy do you think blue checkmarks get?

Bran isn't just a warg but a skinchanger and powerful greenseer so classic rules don't apply. Bran did kill Hodor as he had control over Hodors body. It was Brans decision to sacrifice Hodor. It wasn't Hodors decision to sacrifice his life for Bran.

And it's been proven via the Hodor incident that skinchanging during wiernet shenanigans isn't stable. Bran skinchanged hodor in the present. But was in the wiernet hanging around the past and it had an effect to which young hodor experienced the death of old hodor.

I never said the NK got his powers from Bran.

But back to Hodor. It wasn't hearing the words hold the door that fucked him up. bran was in the past. But on the outside he was warging hodor at the same time causing a link between the two different timezones. Hodor was forced to hold the door and die by a clawing deadmen stabbing him with knives. And young Hodor experienced it.

> Bran did kill Hodor as he had control over Hodor body.
That's not what I meant. I said that while Bran is controlling Hodor, Hodor is not that.

That's the same thing for the 3ER and Bran. If he forced himself into Bran's body, then Bran's soul will still be in his body.

The same thing happened when the warg from the wildlings entered the body of the woman. He had to fight her and, eventually, he lost.

If Bran soul entered the NK and didn't stay in his body because the rules didn't apply, then Bran as the NK would immediately stop the attack on Summer and Hodor. He would have ordered the dead to take them unharmed.

But doing anything as the NK would require so much control from Bran who just entered the NK body for the first time. And as we just saw he doesn't know how to control everything at the moment the 3ER is sliced by the NK (who is still not Bran yet and therefore wouldn't want to kill the 3ER because it stoled his body)

>I said that while Bran is controlling Hodor, Hodor is not that.
Hodor is not dead*

>Yes, a shit episode and still gets praised by almost everyone.
But this is false. The main avenues of old-school fans (Westeros, ASOIAF sub, etc.) universally hate it. It's just low IQ plebs praising it.

With his fucking sister.
Or with his sister, fucking. Whichever sentence you prefer.