Hey Peggy

Can someone explain how, if the timelines didn't actually change, she still had kids that weren't Steve's with someone else? It's implied they spent their life together leading up to the point of old-man Steve. Maybe I just missed something.

>inside a block of ice! Let him be
why wasnt there 2 Captain Americas at the end of the movie then?

russos said fuck it it's all alternate timelines now

To be fair if you looked like captain America you could get away with that. I’m just mildly attractive and the shit I can say to women and still smash is dumb.

>be 6ft chad that could get any girl in the world
>muh peggy

did steve have the most extreme case of oneitis ever?

Isn't that how all American comics are now?

just imagine the smells

My bet is that they did not stay together, that's why he doesn't talk about "her" when Sam asks.

He went back
Got the dance

Lived a life

>b-but she met her once in the first movie
>muh foreshadowing muh poetry

Cap didn't have a relationship with her niece though, they literally kissed once and he never saw her again, he was a 105 year old virgin.

Supersoldier serum is basically steroids so he's infertile anyway

in phase 4 the reveal peggy married a black guy instead, because captain america couldn't fulfill her emotionally

He was wearing a wedding ring, they obviously got married and had a family. The truth is that he was always her husband and she had to cover it up and keep it secret so frozen Cap could go through all the same stuff in order to eventually go back in time for her, otherwise the loop would be broken. Just as Doctor Strange told Tony, if you know what happens it won't happen.

>if you know what happens it won't happen.
Sounds familiar

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There's no loop. The directors gave an interview yesterday and they said that Cap just went to another timeline.

>changes in the past create alternate futures
>puts the stones back instead of living in a universe where Thanos can't do the snap

Got a link?

based

>girl so infatuated with you that even through Alzheimer's she still remembers you
>rocking set of prime titties during the 1940s
>get to live an entire fulfilling life before America turns into a Mexicanized shithole
yeah, I'd have oneitis too

so how did he appear on that fucking bench without going through the fucking machine then?

You WOULD tell all of this to a woman because of your autism

>kissing a girl once means you’re in a relationship
Fucking hell lad

>Hey Peggy it turns out the future is full of 20 year old virgins, nigger music that consist of lyrics about being drunk or high and fucking whores all the time and internet porn that becomes pathetic just after a week of use but hey I you know what sounds absolutely worse than that? White America where I can make love to a beautiful wife who makes me food everyday and raise a 20 year old who won’t be a virgin loser
Right, very unbelievable.

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you see this kids Peggy, they used to be yours but they will never exist in this world.

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Except her family was always him. His ex-girlfriend / her grandniece? That was HIS grandniece too.

>cucking your past self
absolute gigachad

What if Steve always came back in all timelines?

Full on mad, top kek

Wait so did he cuck himself? seriously there's another steve freeze below sea.

>marry a beautiful woman
>have a long life of happiness together
>have a several children to carry your name
>suddenly gigachad comes back from the future
>steals your girl
>cucks you out of reality
How do you even stop this, bros?

>The director was later asked if Endgame’s plot operated by the logic of a closed time loop, to which he responded:
>“Nope, not a time loop. Both Ancient One and Hulk were right. You can’t change the future by simply going back to past. But it’s possible to create a different alternate future. It’s not butterfly effect. Every decision you made in the past could potentially create a new timeline. For example, the old Cap at the end movie, he lived his married life in a different universe from the main one. He had to make another jump back to the main universe at the end to give the shield to Sam.”
wegotthiscovered.com/movies/avengers-endgame-director-explains-big-plot-hole-caps/

but how did he make the jump without going through that fucking machine

This

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He probably used harsher language, to be fair.

I don't care if he stops 9/11, but I hope Cap stops that Jewish politician from enacting the 1965 immigration act, which they promised wouldn't affect the cultural and ethnic identity of our country.

Is self-cucking the true redpill?

I wish we could all go back in time and stop (((them)))

>He had to make another jump back to the main universe at the end to give the shield to Sam.
this makes zero sense since there is no way anyone could get back via the quantum realm without anyone noticing as the actual machine is needed to return and not just that time/space gps thing

I'd do anything to go back. Now i live in the Weimar/Mexico 2.0

>implying stopping the 1965 IA wouldn’t prevent 9/11 and a whole host of terrorist attacks and other symptoms of societal degradation as well

You're telling me you wouldn't fuck off to the 50's to fuck a titcow until you're literally drained of life?

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Peggy please don't be in Manhattan on the morning of September 11, 2001. Don't ask me how I know, I promise I'm not involved

Russos obviously gucked up and had to retcon their own movie in an interview. I guess even having physicists on production didn't help them

Why didn't Bucky go with him? Does he prefer to spend the rest of his days alone farming in Wakanda instead of going back to his friends and loved ones?

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>anternate

I can't think of a fate worse than having to life through the 1940s through now. No internet legal weed or prostitution would make for a very boring existence

And for the guy who was supposed to be your husband and the kids you were supposed to have, well...

Stark and Cap did that when they jumped to the 70'

>hey peggy, it's all messed up. We're fighting for the wrong side in WW2

kys degenerate freak

what a chad

So there's still a timeline where half the population died and tony just abandoned that universe for one where he's a hero?

>No husband in the pictures
Steve managed to watch a few time travel movies before he went back. Boy knows what a paradox is

don't forget tranny toddlers chopping their penises off and the father's losing custody if they complain

Having physicists to consult on the mechanics of time travel only truly works if you actually pay attention to them.

>cap does nothing to stop Jim Crow laws
>Cap doesn't save JFK
>Cap does nothing about the countless genocides that happened in his wake

Guess he was redpilled all along

Because instead of "returning" to his original universe, he did the long wait untill he could just jump to this universe using the time GPS, maybe doing a trip to the past?
Remember that he was able to go to 2014 and 2013 and 2012 in the same trip without going back to the platform.

and how did they do it?

>had a family
No, they just get married

Very true.

They're adopted.

>Peggy, stop fighting the Germans! We got it all wrong! And we need to stop immigration NOW

Well you can kinda explain it this way: the machine is necessary to fixate the point of return. So they can go back in time using their hand devices and suits but the only way to go back to their original reality is the through the machine. Which make Cap's return even more stupid

If cap went to another timeline and lived out his life how come he was sitting on the bench in Timeline A instead of needing to be brought back through the machine?
I thought the whole point was that they weren't sending people back to their past, but to a version of their past on a different timeline... so how was cap sitting on the bench waiting for them?

>Remember that he was able to go to 2014 and 2013 and 2012 in the same trip without going back to the platform.
Because the platform is only needed to go cak to the starting point. He can hop back in time without it as long as he has enough of pym particles

How come he left JAV porn behind? That shit makes the modern age the golden age.

>JAV porn
>golden age
>not sex dolls for the masses/VR porn

I would totally cuck myself if I could, that’s literally peak chad and the pinnacle of alpha.

You know that there was a shit ton of prostututes even back then, right?

The whole point of returning the stones was to PREVENT alternate timelines. Steve even says "trim all the branches" before he goes back

returning the stones doesn't undo the fact that the avengers were there in the past and interacted with people, causes other changes in the past aside from the stones
Take the elevator scene for example, Cap saying "heil hydra" will have a drastic effect on the winter soldier's story in that timeline

Are you retarded user? Those timelines are already altered. He returned the stones just not to fuck them up even further

returning the stones didn't prevent alternate timelines it just kept them on track to be the same as Timeline A without getting totally fucked by infinity stones not existing
see: Hulk vs old time ady dialogue

>Steve went back to the past to live the wholesome life that isn't possible today
Huh

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He was saving himself for right woman.

> Steve Rogers, Captain America
> Liking asian girls like a pathetic beta
He's an alpha chad, not a loser. People like you are probably why he decided to stay in the past.

The Russos confirmed that Steve had sex with Sharron

>Directed by the Winter Soldier and Civil War directors
>Writers of Endgame also wrote all the Captain America films including The First Avenger
OH IT SHOWS
FUCKING CAPTAIN AMERICA FANBOYS

Russos officially said he lived in an alternate timeline and only returned to the Prime MCU at the end of the movie. There goes all my neat "putting the stones back reset the timelines" headcanon.

web.archive.org/web/20190501022537/https://ew.com/movies/2019/04/30/avengers-endgame-russo-brothers-captain-america/

Wtf are those comics? I've never read any of them so am I supposed to read something like this and go "Huh that Red Skull guy is really a villian"? What's the writer's intention here?

Yes he cucked himself. Not only that he swam down there to take his shield and left his own frozen body down there. Howard said there was no more vibranium so this is the only way he'd get the shield for Falcon.

>I can't think of a fate worse than having to life through the 1940s through now. No internet legal weed or prostitution would make for a very boring existence

It's easy just swing by the dollar bin at walmart and bring back Pink Floyd's Dark Side, Led Zeppelin II, Kraftwerk Autobaun, and Beatles' Abbey Road and pretend you wrote all of them.

Invent rap in 1975 but sign everyone to shyster Playtone records style deals and steal all their ghetto posturing bucks and invest it in shorting airline and reinsurance stocks on Sept. 10, 2011.

>implying she would care if alpha super chad showed up at her door

>invest it in shorting airline and reinsurance stocks on Sept. 10, 2011.
y not buy an assload of Berkshire stocks instead

>paying another person for sex wasn't invented in the 40's

Are you retarded user? It's called the oldest profession for a reason

it's been established that he hates technology

you would all fight the bonds of time for a chance a those choice titties

why invest in a company that picks bones when you already know where all the corpses are?

>No, he'd explain about the time travel shit. She'd say she doesn't care because she wants to be with him, he says the same. Weird isn't it? Le fuck le normies xddd Yea Forumsros

This but Steve being frozen in the ice is still kind of a problem.

>the time travel shit

Nice way of glossing over the fact that he's not really the same steve and that whole philosophical dilema. I know you're trying to do this cute thing where you do an ironic le le thing but this is actually a shitty plot point and it is completey glossed over, much in the same way you're doing now

kekekekekek

Not in the movies it wasn't. In WS he says how useful internet is and how great it is not to have to boil all the food

That was a very ambivalent line. He’s impressed and finds it convenient, but does he really like it?

Well then were is it established that he hates it?

You'll avoid all the headache that the post 9/11 investigation will bring
nothing random about a man shorting a shitload of stocks on that specific day.

MCU worldbuilding and atmosphere is 0, they never bother delving into the real interesting bits like these. Look at the deleted scene of the first Avengers movie, it would have added depth to the movie
youtube.com/watch?v=Pov4qMSfg9w

>They clone Peggy using crazy Nazi shit
>Steve and the original Peggy runaway together
>end up in Texas
>Steve changes his name to hank (last name hill)
>becomes a propane and propane accessories salesman
>even older Steve comes back after giving falcon the shield to smash that peg poon one more time
>something goes wrong and he gets his legs cut off at the knee
>this combined with not being able to get Peggy for one more go because of young Steve (now hank) causes him to become bitter and angry
>changes his name to cotton

Nigga wakangans have infinite vibraniums, he probably just flew there and asked them to make one.

Literally nothing wrong with chicanos

>I can't think of a fate worse than having to life through the 1940s through now. No internet legal weed or prostitution would make for a very boring existence

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>What's the writer's intention here?
Skull paints everything in its most pessimistic light and Cap pulls through with relentless optimism regarding MURRICA's future.

Would you take Peggy or Natalie Dormer's character from Cap America 1?

>hot British officer
>trashy private

Option 3: Jenna Coleman's bit part.

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Dormer was so slutty in that movie hnnnnng

Do you think Chris Evans gets laid with absolute ease?

And we will just make love while the Avengers fight Thanos and all that down a man.

sure, with men tho

He's a poofta???

And fuck that guy you were going to marry. He can fuck off to another split timeline. Oh yeah, we need to move from this area before it is destroyed in 50 years. Don't tell your friends. NM, tell whoever but I won't.

Let's be honest, none of you faggots can function without the internet. You'd enjoy living in the 40's for like three days and then you'd hang yourself from boredom.

of course I would never, ever wanna go back to those times

I want a few girlfriends of my choice

Wait. How did the giant ship appear? Didn't it just randomly pop in the sky?

I liver through my entire childhood and adolescence without internet. I'm pretty sure I'll do somehow.

pym particles bro
nebula had em in her skull

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Endgame. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the time traveling will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Thanos' nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these quips, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Endgame truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Thanos' existential catchphrase "Right in the Infinity Stones" which itself is a cryptic reference to Stan Lee's American epic. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as The Russos' genius wit unfolds itself on their theatre screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have an Avengers tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

Complete and utter character assassination, brought to you courtesy of hacks too unimaginative and short-sighted to grasp the implications of their own story decisions.

Jesus fucking Christ.

You need pym particles to time travel at all. Did they establish that you need the machine?

no bro you don't need all that
the movie retcons itself as it goes along
just turn it off bro

Come on. They have Captain Marvel now, they don't need Cap. He can retire, dab on niggers and suck his wife's titmilk 24/7.

>men

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Not how time travel works in the MCU

I would like to have seen what Cap's reaction at seeing Red Skull again would've been

>god i wish those lips were sucking my cock right fucking now

It bothered me that Hawkeye never even bothered to mention to Cap that Red Skull was guarding the Soul Stone

If anything it would be easier to get prostitutes back then than it is today.

You are a faggot and I dont like the way you speak... This plothole was ridiculous and we're all happy you are not a screenwriter

Chris is pure and doesn't think like that

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thats why he's worthy of thors hammer though
he lets go of needing to fight just for the sake of fighting

Cap is too good of a friend to cuck Bucky

creepy hollywood drone

So did he leave Bucky to be tortured and brainwashed in the alternative timeline too? What about The Hydra infiltration of shield? Ultimately I just cant see him trying to retire, especially when his gf is busy as a secret agent

I saw Captain America in the 1950s in New York yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him what the implications to the timeline were for him staying in the past to vigorously fuck Agent Carter.

He said "Oh, like you're doing now?”

I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going "I can do this all day" and explaining to me that he couldn't interfere with 9/11 or the Kennedy assassination in front of my face. I walked away and continued to go about my business, and I heard him chuckle patriotically as I walked off. When I tried to cross the street I saw him talking to Hank Pym with like 15 Pym particles in his hand without any need for them.

Hank was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Steve, you need to use these to return the Infinity Gems.” At first he kept pretending to not be a man out of time and not hear him, but eventually turned back around and started handing the particles back to Pym.

When Hank refused one of the particles and started blocking Steve's hand multiple times, he stopped him and told Hank that he had already returned the stones “to prevent any chrono-spatial anomalies,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s how time travel works. After Hank took each particle and put them in his pockets and started to explain time travel, Cap kept interrupting him by motorboating Peggy's sweet, sweet tits really loudly.

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Doesn't Pym get resurrected in the end? Why can't he make more particles lol?

That was actually a really good film.
Pure Cagekino.
I think I'll watch it again now desu.

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Not how it works. Steve created an alternative timeline by getting with Peggy in the 40's. She married someone else in the main MCU timeline though. MCU time travel isn't like Back to the Future time travel when doing something in the past immediately alters the present; it creates a branching timeline.

>not realizing he WAS the father

Perfect.

It's not his grand niece though. Peggy married someone else in the main MCU timeline. Steve created a new one by getting with Peggy that effectively means Sharon doesn't exist in this new one, or not as she did in the main timeline. Him kissing Peggy's grandniece isn't incest or whatever.

Impossible to trim the one where loki got away tho

>Moron still doesn't get how time travel worked in a capeshit film whilst smugly mocking it to try and appear smart
Anons constantly and arrogantly overestimation their intelligence through smug posts is one of the funniest and more irritating things about this board.

Then why the fuck is he in that timeline. The time travel in Endgame makes less sense than Back to the future 2

...Because he loved Peggy and wanted to be with her. The Endgame time travel really is about as straight forward as Back to the Future time travel. I think it's confusing people cause they are used to the type of time travel where altering something in the past immediately alters the present and creates loops.

No, he created an alternate timeline where he wasn’t a member of the avengers because he was too old. Captain America can’t just jump from one branching timeline to another.

>hey peggy, these photos look like some very bad photoshop, are you sure they're real?

He did but the Russos confirmed he was still doing heroics in that timeline, which suggests shit like nipping Hydra in the bud, maybe pushing for the Avengers thing even earlier, etc. Scream bullshit if you like but I was satisfied enough by the Russos simply saying there is a story in there somewhere in this alternative timeline.

Yes this is all fine, but how did appear at the end then? He’s in a totally different timeline. It makes zero sense if you actually think about it.

He got married to that faggot in the meeting.

>5x7 prints in the 1950s

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Russos said something to the effect of 'There's a story in there somewhere' explaining how he jumped back. Tbh, it wouldn't surprise me if Cap returned with some purpose, i.e. things played out fine in his timeline but the guys from the main timeline need a warning or something to stop a new threat or whatever.

What do you think Cap was doing on 9/11?

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Too old to do something.

I want Peggy to peg me

peggy's actress is an awful person, but yeah I'd take brunette big-tits any day

tyrannical modern attitudes, endless regulations/laws, and the surveillance/paranoia state are why I spend all day in my room to begin with

If I could go back to the 50s, I'd be outside every day traveling the country, hiking/camping, and working like 3 months a year to support myself since everything was so cheap back then.

Explain

No

All the WW2 vets were already old as fuck in the 80s

i'd be stoked. Who needs that shit when you can see timeless classic tv/film when they aired, on the big screen, how they were intended, experience all your favorite dad-rock bands live during their peak, spoil Empire Strikes Back for everyone, working a minimum wage job and still able to afford an apartment and luxuries, driving now classic automobiles, fucking torpedo titty'd babes and having a real family, experiencing the golden age of vidya with your son, etc.

and theres still plenty of weed and prostitution, my friend, believe me.

>MCU time travel isn't like Back to the Future time travel when doing something in the past immediately alters the present; it creates a branching timeline.

Explains how Butch back in time to give himself the sports guide yet returned the time-machine to the unaltered timeline where Doc and Marty still where.

>Also, I'm 13 years older than the Steve you know

I don’t even mind Sam but why the fuck would he give his shield to a dude who’s like 40? There’s a reason soldiers and professional athletes retire

Isn't that the plot of The Notebook?

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