*Hits pipe*

>12
That's fucked up.

i simply luuuuuuuv reddit ^-^
buuut im often too scared to post cuz i know id get downvoted >.<
good thing i can just post here then go back to post stuf i know gets upvotes (^______

There is no right answer to a black hole.

wife should speak privately with the father and settle it together before bringing it to the daughter, doing it on her own is sapping away the father's authority and will have a negative impact on their parenting as a whole

humanity was a mistake

I think I started at 14 or something.

>scared of reddit

thats a new one

I started jerking it at 13 or 14, it's not unreasonable. He should've just told her that she should wait until she's older for that kinda stuff and not to openly browse that shit

It's obviously a baitpost, congrats to the OP on plebbit for stirring up the r*dditors into a mad frenzy

>This isn't 1950. If your 12 year old wants to masturbate and have a vibrator, then you have to support her.
>You'll get to watch her become a strong, independent young woman.

>americans

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But she didn't masturbate with a vibrator. She was simply looking at them on Amazon. If she had actually ordered one it'd be different but that seems just like perfectly normal curiosity to me.

more like you'll get to watch her on pornhub in 6 years

i started jacking it at 10. Had a girl touch my dong at 9. Sadly didn't lose it until 16 to my gf who was older but a right fucking crazy bitch. put me off relationships until i was 22

I don't really understand Reddit. The post got 20,000 likes but all the top comments are arguing against it?

then you HAVE to support her then too. Sex work is a legitimate occupation you know, stop being misogynist af.

Contrary to popular belief, Reddit isn't a hivemind. People who upvote shit aren't the same people who comment.

i mean dad fucking his daughter with a vibrator is better than bongs giving away their daughters to the paki rape gangs

This, but unironically.

I'm in fucking awe that someone can actually post this shit.

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its the mothers fault. she probably told her about all this shit thinking she was helping. thats too much for a 12 year old.

The state did that. The parents were sometimes arrested for trying to kill the scum and get their children back
Our sociopathic leaders want us all ground into the dirt

You shouldn't buy your son anything. Men using sex toys is gross and embarrassing.

This

Although I jerked it as early as 13, I didn't even know about fleshlights until much later and I had enough integrity to know not to order them or anything until I was much older. Normies think if a feeling is natural (endorphins released from masturbation) then no matter how much you do it, it's good. Women can overstimulate much easier than men can, leading to a less successful love life later.

Do you feel in control?

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I really fucking hate that I know this but, but that subreddit is all about asking if you're an asshole in certain situations. On this subreddit even if you think the poster is an asshole you're encouraged to vote up rather than down so that more people can see the post and judge for themselves.

Reddit is shit BTW, don't believe the hype. I literally only use it because if anyone sees me browsing Yea Forums I'm instantly pedo scum

It's much likelier she just picked that stuff up at school, honestly.

So is your solution that parents should just ignore their children sexuality and hope that the kids just figure it out.
Seriously, I wish my mom bought me a masturbator and lube when I was 13, it would have been way better than wanking it with my hand.

I wish my old man copped a 240 Volt FuckMaster Pro 5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed pulsating vagina, elasticized anus with non-drip semen collection tray, together with optional built in realistic orgasm scream surround sound system for me when I was 12...

Citation needed. IF parents dont help out their kids develop sexually the kids will just do it on their own.

My dad bought me a porno mag when I turned 12 and told me to not tell mom. He also regularly beat me haha.

I wasn't implying I would. It's a dire situation when there are people out there encouraging their kids to use sex toys

>12 year old masturbating
OMG the humanity!

i'm not surprised the people who think is normal, are faggots or degenerates in general.

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None of you can even give a reason why letting your 12 year get a masturbation toy is bad. Do you think that if they dont have one that theyll simply never touch there gentials? Do you think that if men get male masturbators that they will masturbate anymore than they do now? Its simply dumb, masturbating is normal and it should be encouraged to help their kids in a nice manner and to not make it into this big deal.

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White shariah now

Fuck off, you still would have expected mommy to clean out your crusty fleshflight.

I hope they got her a big black dildo. You gotta train a new generation after all.

Well she already 'knows' about sex toys. Better to have a talk than to punish.

God, imagine if the dildo was black and the 12 year old was using that, wouldn't that be disgusting, just visualising that thing going on and out of her haha

Bro why stop there, just let 12 year olds take full grown dick - who are you to tell them what they can do with their bodies?

So what? Its not like moms dont already clean crusty socks. Its just now that parents have to pretend their children dont masturbate and they have to make something normal into this big awkward deal

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I think owning a vibrator at 12 is a bit early, but masturbating is absolutely normal

maybe this nigger just doesn't want to be a granddad before he hits 35

>pedophillia will never be normalised. You're just delusional

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I agree the dad acted a little harshly. The post is retarded, though.

Wow what crazy reasoning you have there. Masturbating is perfectly normal for a human to do and everyone does it. IF you think that just because we dont give kids sex toys that thye dont masturbate your just wrong. Seriously, whats your argument about making it seem normal for a child to be able to use threir own body to feel good?

Awright then, cheers for the explanation. I guess for that one subreddit its a decent subversion of the retarded popularity contest.

Huh, wow user I never thought of it like that. You know what you're right. But dildos are expensive, 12 is totally old enough for her to get a dicking though. I'll just hire that creepy hobo down the street to give her a good dicking for 5 bucks. Afterall, girls at 12 years old are perfectly sexually promiscuous according to you! While I'm at it why don't I go and buy my 11 year old son a blow up doll! He's perfectly ready for it at the ripe age of 11 he should be bagging thots left and right!

You're a fucking retard.

You can’t blame the little kid, it’s not their fault jews are brainwashing them

reminder that baiters create throwaway accounts on reddit, make up incel bait stories like this, screencap then and post them on Yea Forums to get bump limits

report these shills.

yeah, flipping the fuck out like he did is insane. if he thought she was too young then she'd be too young to understand what she was looking at much, and if she wasn't too young to know what it was, then it's time for a talk with mom to see what the fuck is going on.

>children should break their own hymens at 12 years old.
I dunno user, seems kinda weird.

>but masturbating is absolutely normal
How is it normal? When did it become normal? You want to know when? When pornography became widely and extremely easily accessible
A dildo is like a fully adult penis. So why not let them take the real thing?

yikes

12 year old girls masturbating and being interested in toys is perfectly normal.

I know this board is dominated primarily by old testament Christians, but the best way to deal with early bloomers is to sit down with them and talk and be open about their sexuality. The most fucking insane cumdumpsters I've ever come across all come from super strict, religious families who went to all female catholic schools.

>it's the jews again
yawn. go back.

How is it not normal?
I was already fapping away at like 7-8

this is so stupid, learn to reason better. Youre equating masturbation with getting fucked by a hobo.

"Yea Forums - Television & Film"
what are you even doing here

Also yh i probably masterbated at 12 and look at me now how great am i

The daughter didn't do anything wrong but the wife sounds like a cunt. I'm not married so I don't know what it's like to love someone but my immediate instinct would be to take control of the Amazon account and cancel my wife's credit cards. Fuck her for acting like an entitled bitch and undermining my authority.

I mean it's fine but if a 12 year old boy had a pocket pussy i'd be a tad disturbed. It's not like it'll kill either a boy or a girl to wait 700 days for 14-15 when it would be less weird.

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I didn't start jerking off until I was 15

Why are americans so hysterically scared about sex?

Shut up incel.
Have sex.

You are here mate. You are not normal.

I never masturbated at that age, from the age of 9 to about 13 or 14 I would have sex with my cousin. It started off with hiding out in cupboards and making out, then it evolved into oral and then full on sex. We honestly thought that there was nothing wrong with it, and you can imagine our horror a few years later when we discovered that this was NOT normal behaviour. Needless to say, the whole thing never gets brought up anymore, though I do have some fond memories.

I'm actually happy, let them keep going this way. We all know what happened last time as a result

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Are you saying they wont masturbate if they dont have a sex toy. This is the issue at bar. Plenty of girls break their hymens riding horses, what exactly bad do you think happens when a hymen breaks?
So I gues Chimps are always watching pron and thats why they masturbate, lol. Give me a break. You guys might think you are conservative puritans fighting for purity but you are fighting something that isnt a problem, its why conservative generally look stupid compared to liberal on certain issues.

The logic is the same, if a little 12 year old girl wants to experiment sexually let her do it then! But me buying my barely prepubescent daughter a fat black dildo for her to ram up her vagina at her leisure? Nah fuck that, not with my money. Not until she's at least 14-15.

Bruh, what the fuck?

Yes it's normal to masturbate at 12, but not with sex toys. You wouldn't buy your son a sex doll at 12 either. What, are hands and fingers not enough? That's like your first sexual experience being an anal gangbang or some shit.

>We honestly thought that there was nothing wrong with it
But if you both were happy about it there wad nothing wrong about it.

>OP CENSORING THE USER NICKNAME

HAHA I WONDER WHY

absolute state of incels.

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>240 Volt FuckMaster Pro 5000 blowup latex doll with 6 speed pulsating vagina, elasticized anus with non-drip semen collection tray, together with optional built in realistic orgasm scream surround sound system ...
Link?

Do you think that 12 year old boys do not think about sex? If they do, what the big deal about getting a blow up doll? Its just silly you think its a problem

>I'm a cuckservative
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH. No I don't like crony capitalism or corporatocracy, sorry

Wait I just realized you are cringing to the replys and not to the OP.
You are justified.

He's saying if you're willing to buy your 12 old daughter sex toys then she may as well start experimenting with sex too.
Do you honestly think the average adult person who indulge in fleshlights or a dildos are normal?

>this board is dominated by Old Testament Christians
Yes the very same retards who constantly shit talk Jews while unironically following the Torah and worshipping The King of Jews

Experimenting with her own body. Parents are supposed to protect their children and since masturbation is normal and will not harm a child there is no issue.

Wow those two years will really save her mind form becoming a degenerate whore, good for you user

If she wants a dick he should've just whipped it out.

The circle of shitpost, truly a wonder of nature

>old testament Christians
Just say proxy Jews next time

are we all gonna dress up like jovial clowns to fight the degeneracy?

what the fuck is wrong with redditors holy shit

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Dildos are completely normal for women

While I don't give a shit if a 12 year old wants to masturbate with a toy I know reddit would do a 180 if it was a male child and fleshlight.

If it were my kid I would use it as a chance to fuck with them
>I'd buy the black one, thats what your mom uses

This is a point where you have to be the man. I would smash the fuck out of that shit and get the wife in line, if she refuses I would probably leave her then and there. The fuck.

Wow, you're so amazing and smart user, it was a shitpost all along!
Gold star for you
*sticks gold star sticker on your forehead*

>we know what happened last time

Germans joined forces with non-whites to kill millions of Europeans, brought communism to half of Europe for good part of century, tainted the idea of nationalism forever and according to stormcucks failed to kill any jews?

>masturbate
You might not believe this but when I was 12-15 I had 11-12 year old girls willing to fuck me.
Hes kind of lucky that shes looking to be an incel

For civilization to exist reigning in women's sexual desires and training them to monogamous was a vital step. There's a reason people have an instant revulsion to unchecked female sexuality. We evolved to know that it will destroy peaceful societies.

Are you male/female? and you cousin?

Whats the big deal with having a sex toy at that age?
SO what are you, a fashy goy? lol
Normal people dont use sex toys because of the stigma. Give me one reason why sex toys are harmful to people. GO ahead
Secondly masturabtion is a harmless activity but having sex is not. Parents are supposed to protect their children. Masturbation poses no risks therefore its no big deal

have sex

>Experimenting with her own body.
Taking heroine is also just experimenting and it makes you feel good. So then it's also okay, right? As long as it makes you happy it's good for you?

You Hedonists make me sick to my stomach.

Every single girl has used something to masturbate. Like a comb's handle or something that you can stick there.
All of you are fucking naive and don't know anything about girls.

I'm a guy and she's a girl.

Like I said, I don't care if she experiments, but I'm not buying a giganigga 5000 XXX vibrating dildo with collapsible cupholder attachment for my 12 year old fucking daughter. It's just not happening, and if my wife were letting my daughter browse for dildos on amazon without me knowing I sure as hell wouldn't have just given the laptop back it would be broken over my fucking knee.

Of course Reddit took the bait, with style.

>absolute state of 4channel
>reddit spacing

not an argument

>Yea Forums

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I was jacking off for 6 hours straight and shoving my cock inside the vacuum cleaner when I was 12, and I had friends who had sex when they were 12.

I don't see the problem. Obviously the husband and wife has some communication issues but I wish I would have had a fleshlight when I was 12

Oh my god. DO you believe heroine is harmful? DO you believe Maturbation is harmful? Harmless activities like masturbation should not be stigmatized just because tards like you will equate it to anything
And secondly, doing heroine is not like experimenting with your body, you dont naturally produce heroince, you do natually have genitals that can be stimulated

>Germans joined forces with non-whites to kill millions of Europeans, brought communism to half of Europe for good part of century, tainted the idea of nationalism forever and according to stormcucks failed to kill any jews?
Its fun shifting blame isn't it? The only non white country they allied with was Iraq. And in peacetime their society functioned extremely well. Britian couldn't have that though of course so they set up Jozef Beck as their puppet in Poland to fuck Germany over

Holy shit, masturbation isn't good for you, doesn't matter that you saw a dog humping a rock, it's bad for kids because it rots their minds, especially porn.

It's one thing to talk to your child about masturbation, but to encourage them to use adult sex toys is degenerate and perverse.

This whole thread is weird as fuck. A bunch of weirdos fantasising about a 12 year old taking a dick projecting themselves into it. This is somehow worse than all those cunny threads

Is having pleasure at all hedonistic? What makes masturbation hedonistic?

Heroine floods your body with dopamine which you naturally have and it makes you feel good

This is why we need God.

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i asked about clowns fuck off

is it weird i started jacking off before puberty? i couldnt cum, but could still orgasm. the orgasm was nowhere near as good as after i hit puberty tho

>Not getting the pro *elite* model with the anus stimulating finger attachment
Shiggy

How is masturbation bad for you? Id really love to know
From what Ive read from doctors is that it reduces stress and prostate cancer even. But IM sure you have good reason to believe its bad for you

Redditscum need gassing

This is what happens when a group of incel shutins try to discuss real life issues.

What is a hymen good for? Only good answer is "nothing".

Ya but why? It seems that you people just think so because you think so. THeres no reason why.
Oh my god. DO you believe heroine is harmful? DO you believe Maturbation is harmful?

Marriage

This is a friendly reminder to read pic related. If you have the attention span to, anyway.

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All these fucking soys saying "Let her experiment it's her body! Buy her the toy she's old enough!" Are missing the crux of the issue, as per usual. It's not that the girl is 12 years old that is the primary issue. It's the fact that the father is expected to pay for her dildo on amazon without his knowledge and apparently with his wife instrumenting the entire thing from the beginning.

If she wants to masturbate fine, nobody has any problem with that. She can use her fucking fingers, I've never needed anything other than my hand to get off. But suggesting that it's morally wrong for me to not want to buy my daughter a fucking big ass dildo until I've talked with her about sexual responsibility? And having a cunt of a wife who will literally go behind my back on important upbringing issues like this? I would have honestly not given the laptop back and considered divorcing that bitch.

How is mastrubation at 12 not Hedonistic?
I quoted the wrong post

Nah same here

Weird to think my dick was even smaller back then than it is now

Our grandfathers died so this shit could happen. We are in the end times.
No reason a middle school girl should have a vibrator, the girls that have sex that young never become contributing members to society.

I think it's pretty obvious that the wife was gonna pay for the toy seeing as she had obviously already spoken to the daughter

>Ya
>Oh my God
Go back you scum

Read
If you have the attention span to.

>The only non white country they allied with was Iraq.
Japanese are based honorary aryans, eh?
Stop flailing, it is reoccuring patern with Germans, in WWI they allied with muslims.

I used to masturbate with one of those electric back massagers when I was 13. I just grabbed without mom's noticing. Now I realize she may have notices, but was too embarrassed to say anything.
Also i am a guy, so I rubbed that against my butthole while fapping. Shit was so cash

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Can't really close that box

She knows that sticking dicks/dick-shaped objects in her pussy feels good. As messed up as that is to know at her age, it's better to give her something safe to use. Otherwise she's gonna be riding the bedposts or stealing zucchini from the kitchen.

>How is mastrubation at 12 not Hedonistic?

You made the claim that it was hedonistic, explain why that is or else you don't have an argument

Regardless of who's buying it, you should have a talk as parents about buying your daughter a sex toy. That's a very reasonable thing to suggest is it not?

The dad's reaction is over the top. He should've sternly told his daughter off and warned her that she will not search for this again.
From the way he phrased it, she could've been just looking it up because she was curious. We've all had that experience where one of our friends would tell us about something 'adult' and we'd go look it up.

>I think it's pretty obvious that the wife was gonna pay for the toy seeing as she had obviously already spoken to the daughter

Have you ever met a woman?

Fuck off shill

Yea Forums - Television and Film

autism

I know you guys support having kids and all, but in this world we live in, the kid isnt yours at all... Maybe if society collapses it will be worth it to have kids and raise them how your instincts dictate. Adding more units to the army of brainwashed zoomers isn't preserving your race.

Yes we all know that those who didn't pass the virginity test won't have the tribe elders permission to marry

A guarantor of virginity. Obviously you can snap that shit doing other stuff but having it be intact used to be pretty important to raise market value for your wenches.

I was looking at girls getting gangbanged, two girls one cup and pain olympics (obviously not for sexual pleasure) when I was 12

Explain why I should freak out about a 12 year old girl getting a vibrator?

>our grandfathers died for this
What are you talking about I just had Sunday roast my grandparents house last week

Have you?

You do realize thats about porn and not masurbation though. I agree that there is some evidence to believe that porn is bad for you. That being said your brain on pron is unconvincing. It mainly uses the rat experiemtn to conclude that porn is bad when the experiment is just not very convincing. Anyway, it hasnt convinced many researchers wither which leads me to believe its just another pile of redpill garbage

No

Did you have your dick halfway inside of a cow vagina shaped fleshlight while you were doing it? No? Then shut the fuck up.

Oh yeah forgot about Nips. And Germany in WW1 was very different than the one in WW2. And all of Hitler's quotes on Muslims are fake or disputed
en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler

Man the older i get the more i resent this bleeding heart liberal nonsense. This feel good nonsense that no one should be challenged or be told no in any capacity is insane. You're there to be a parent not her best friend and that means making decisions that are in her best interest. There's this weird logic that children should just raise themselves, it's no wonder we're in such a fucking state. "oh your daughter just wants to eat bags of sugar for every meal, well you should just accept that and not shame her for her interests. she will resent you and hate her body". 12 is too young for an adult dick or any kind of extreme porn. If she wants to explore her body she doesn't need a prosthetic let her figure that shit out on her own if that's her interest. The whole mother facilitating it is weird as well.

Yeah absolutely, and the wife going against the dad in front of the daughter like that is bad parenting

Yep I actually have a girlfriend unlike the incels in this thread

As if you faggots didn't jack off to hardcore porn when you were 12.

Hypocrites.

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would you be willing to walk your daughter into a sex shop and help pick one out for her?

lol you dont even know hwy its bad, but you still want to say its bad. Here is a good example of an irrational person
Oh my gosh, sex toys for sexually developing children how horrible, we should have stayed irrational about sex am I right

Glad we agree that it stays in the past

ITT: people scared of sexuality that harms no one

hf seeing the world change and never return to what you want it to be

>Anyway, it hasnt convinced many researchers

Use your own fucking brain, retard, you realise "researchers" are guessing just as hard as anyone else, right?

>kids given access to internet
>adults surprised they are into sex
You're basically a moron for not giving your daughter a sex gift bag with a toy and educational material upon entry into 7th grade. Maybe even earlier.
It's a new world. Got a problem with it, you should have learned to make bombs and blew up capitalist scumbags long ago.

Isn't this normal? Asauming he only beat you if you did shit

It talks mostly about porn, but it talks about masturbation as well. It was written by a researcher who has research to back his claims up

Of course I did. Remember when pornhub only allowed 5 videos per day. Had to resist and go on shitty youjizz instead

I bet the mother is a white woman

yeah whether you agree or not with the girl buying a vibrator this is the real fuckup
a girl discovering her sexuality is fine but maybe buying the newest EXTRA GIRTHY CUNT DETONATOR 3000: NOW WITH REAL LIFE VEINS at age 12 is a bit young. that stuff is marketed for adults for a reason

but parents undoing each others decisions unilaterally just teaches your kid she can abuse that and use it to pit you against each other

Heres someone who will be responsible with a child
dont expect anything, they are irrational people
Is shill a name for people smarter than you?

Explain what's this huge moral and ethical difference between jacking off with your hand and jacking off into, let's say, a fruit you carved a hole into.

Yeah, wasn't great for me desu

But regardless, would it have been healthy or made sense for my parents to endorse it and encourage it?

No.

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>tfw just ordered a lolinco anal and a puni virgin 600
Based little girl. I wish I had known about onaholes earlier, would've saved years of boring fapping.

Okay thank you, is it also a reasonable thing to suggest that perhaps the wife in this case shouldn't be encouraging the 12 year old very impressionable daughter to browse for the fattest dildo to cram inside of her until both she and her husband discuss the right way to talk to their daughter about making responsible choices with her body?

Because you do it for nothing but pleasure at that age

1) No I was still too emotionally scarred from playing Disorderly on Newgrounds to look at naked bodies.
2) Masturbating and using sex toys is not the same thing.

>The situation is bad so let's allow it to get worse.

Shitty thinking.

>masturbation belongs in the same category of experimentation as heroine

>SEX BAD

Americans, everybody.

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Your hands don't cost money that your parents provide 100% of to you as you are a 12 year old child and have no source of income.

Lol, have you ever met a phd? I am in grad school and understand how well informed phds are. The idea that they are guessing as much as you is silly, you are like a chimp to them when it comes to their field of study
Anyobody can have research to back up a claim, but it must be good research. For example, /pol/ has research to back up their claims about jews but its shoddy research

Both give you dopamine rushes, which make you feel good. My point was just because it makes you feel good, doesn't mean it IS good

Hot.

>what is mowing the lawn

Exactly, why didn't he just hire someone to fuck her

I started masturbating when I was 7 from dry humping furniture around my house. I discovered this method after laying on the floor naked with my penis facing the tile and the floor rug after taking a massive dump. After a couple seconds of good dry hump pumps, It would feel great.

I had no idea that's I was doing it until I was 20 and realized it

How is using a vibrator or a toy better for "learning about your body" than using your fucking hands?

It's just gonna end up her blitzing her clit every night and not having a fucking clue as to how to let future partners know what works

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So parents should not buy their children anything but food clothing and shelter? Like I see where your going with this due to you having no good argument but this is so dumb. Parents buy kids loads of things.

Both the mother and the father are retards.

The mother should've had a discussion with the father, not go behind his back. The father also shouldn't just autistically take her laptop and never speak to her. The normal reaction is to sit down with her and explain what she did wrong. Punishing her at that age only makes it worse, basically ensures she'll take nigger dick at 15 just to spite him.

that's true. but why make the comparison in the first place? happiness without causing harm isn't the same as happiness with dangers.

based literal reddit thread

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How did you/not her pregnant?

>12 years old
>Her airpods
>Her MacBook
>Now Mom wants her to have her own dildo
Little girl is clearly spoilt as fuck, there's no reason she can't experiment with candles and hairbrushes and phallic vegetables like every other teenage girl, the asshole here is American consumerism

No I jacked off to Sears catalogs and 5 seconds of tits that would show up on those late night shows on E!, I had to be super discreet about it too not like these fucking zoomers buying 13" dildos and beating it to violent rape porn and using their step-dads credit card. Spoiled I tell you

>browse for the fattest dildo to cram inside of her
Why do you talk about it like this? You come off as getting very triggered about female sexuality mate
Obviously the mom isn't gonna buy her 12 year old daughter an 8 inch dildo that kinda speaks for itself.

And on the topic off talking to their daughter about making responsible choiches with her body, who says the mom haven't already had that talk? Repressing kids and teens sexuality is proven to be more damaging than helpful.
And if I was a 12 year old girl I sure as hell wouldn't want to talk to my dad about sex, it's much easier to do that to the mother.

The only issue in this story is the mother not talking to the dad and the way she handled what he did. The dad also overreacted though.

It decreases stress and lowers prostate cancer risk. Why do you think its bad?

No, your point was that masturbation is like heroin because both can be described as "experimenting with your own body".

In related news, sex is a also bad because it's just experimenting with bodies.

Fucking Hedonists having sex make me sick.

I can't wait to fuck this guy's daughter next week and then cite this to remind him that his barbaric antiquated sense of morality has no place in today's enlightened society, where children can explore every avenue of their sexuality as they see fit without being subject to the whims of their parents, My 8 inches in her tight cunny will make me more her daddy than this dickless wonder ever will be.

Why do incels think they know what is good for a 12 year old girl?

kids should be allowed to fuck, i hope she gets consentually gangbanged in school since 9 by her classmates

You're a hedonist if you eat anything but unsalted rice porridge and sleep on anything but a concrete slab.

You reek of Reddit friend :)

Same here, I remember jerking it long before I hit puberty at 13

I wouldn't even be a Christian if it wasn't for insanity like this.

why do reddit threads get over 0 responses? we need answers

>Ya but why?
Because it turns them into degenerates
>DO you believe heroine is harmful?
Excuse me?

hes irrational
You dont think a sex toy is safer than a candle? A parent should help their kids not ignore certain aspects of them because it makes them uncomfortable

Does a vacuum cleaner feel good?

This. When I was 12 I wasn't even allowed to have my own cellphone yet.

Zoom Zoom, don't go around calling other anons redditeurs when you're posting from your iPhone(c) 8

I understand why the chinks and the pajeets are aborting their daughters so they won't have to deal with this shit.

>joins a desert-crazy religion to find 'sanity'
user. . .

Because I know first hand mastrubation can be bad, because I got testicular torsion from masturbation and almost lost my testicle and had to go to emergency surgery. I still have the scars

90% of men don't even give a shit if their girlfriend/wife has an orgasm anyway, better for her to get used to having a vibrator for that. Saves her years of disappointing sex with men who watch too much porn.

The father should go the extra mile and help his daughter learn how to properly with a dick... I mean, it's only natural, right?

muh degeneracy
so a literal non-issue that alt-rights get butthurt about
so it has another positive consequence, good

>I wouldn't even believe in a fairytale book if it wasn't for insanity
wew

ITT people who would rather ignore an aspect of their child because it makes them uncomfortable

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Let be honest, when you all started jerking of? I'm about at 13, and it seems normal to me. Parent's control over sexual life is some Islamic degeneracy level.

>support her masturbating
Fucking lost

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Girls do, it's the only way they masturbate for the most part

Mastrubation can cause harm, I have experience first hand with it. See

>Because it turns them into degenerates
How?

I remember the first time I came.

There were HUGE dallops of sperm that just would not stop coming out of my dick. I was horrified. I seriously just sat there and watched it happen. I walked into a whole 'nother room and emptied into an empty water bottle just waiting, hoping my penis would stop giving up what I knew must be sperm because of media and sex-ed. I told myself never again. I got addicted.

May god have mercy on your souls

Based on what evidence do you think it turns them into degenerates? Does having sex with your wife make you a degenerate? Does looking at girl and thinking shes sexy turning you into a degenerate

>he doesn't know how girls start to masturbate

That is not a back massager, idiot. That is a Hitachi Magic Wand, a non-penetrative sex toy, a clit stimulator. Your mum used it for masturbating too. Look it up on youporn.

90%?

Don't believe it. The younger generations of men are far more obsessed with proving sexual competency than their fathers and grandfathers. You're just spouting a decades-old meme that has led to this anxiety.

When I was 12 almost 13

I remember thinking I was super late because all my classmates were already talking about it

>masturbation bad
You incels were all fucking cantaloupes when you were 12 buncha hypocrites

It allows her to go more and more into extremes at a young age

Were you squeezing your balls or something?
This is so dum tho. Why'd he go to the emergency room? Like do you not realize that everyone masturbates? Why is everyone not getting testicular torsion?

yeah if you do it like a fucking retard
testular torsion from masturbating, jfc

Incels don't realize that a lot of girls can't even reach orgasm from masturbating with their hands, hell many girls can't even reach orgasm from vaginal sex

>he doesn't know about hairbrush handles and electric toothbrushes

>I am in grad school and understand how well informed phds are.

What kind of phds? Science, social sciences, humanities?

There's nothing extremes about using masturbation toys.

It's like saying you're gonna go to hell for jacking off into a sock.

It doesn't matter if it's "normal" or not you fuck head. Parents are supposed to have their kids be proper and steer them in the right direction as much as possible. May as well let her start dressing in fucking lingerie too if you say yes to a fucking sex toy.

This isn't even tangentially related to TV or movies fucking failure jannies can't do their one job

>Why do you talk about it like this?
Because highlighting the absurdity of your viewpoint, exaggerating it and then attacking the exaggeration is a valid argumentative tactic.
>Obviously the mom isn't gonna buy her daughter an 8 inch dildo that kinda speaks for itself.
You've obviously never even seen a dildo so you have no reason to be weighing in on this discussion, 8 inches is pretty fucking average size in the toy market.
>Who says the mom hasn't already had that talk?
If she did have the talk, having that talk without talking to the husband first is irresponsible and terrible parenting, it's a team effort. It's obvious from the post that the father was privy to none of this.
>Repressing kids and teens sexuality is proven to be more damaging than helpful.
Once again, fingers and hands exist and that's all one needs to masturbate, I don't see why I have to spend my own money on that.
>If I was a 12 year old girl
Stopped reading there because you aren't no matter how much you like to LARP as one for the sake of argument.

and?
what's the problem?
oh yeah, it makes you uncomfortable

>SEX BAD is the right direction
lmfao fucking americans

Based on what evidence? Do you think looking at girls who are hot will make you go more extreme? You are just spouting your opinion. Its like you think if people start masturbating at 13 that they all be into skat. But guess what, pretty much everyone masturbates and extreme fetishes are very rare

Excess semen fluid got stuck in the spermatic cord, which twisted it and cut off literally all blood supply to the testicles, my testicles were literally dying. You have a six hour window to get to surgery before it's irreversible.

Yeah 12 year olds masturbating the end times are upon us you retarded frog posting fuck

I didn't jack off until I was an adult, asshole.

How do I express my sexuality? Does anybody give a fuck? Why would I want to do so?

Literally only retards masturbate into socks. And comparing a sock to a toy is stupid.

>muh healthy exploring
I believed that shit at that age and it caused me to become a porn addict and stray from the path of god and never go after real girls. Fucking evil narrative.

Based and redpilled.

But then in my experience, older men are more interested in their partner's pleasure than the young ones.

Young guys have their brains absolutely rotten with porn and ED issues to boot, the older generation didn't have access to hardcore anal gangbangs since they were 12.

im from norway and where i grew up people were pretty moderate/liberal etc about this kinda topic

but there's no way in hell parents who'd buy their children sex toys at 12 years old wouldnt be considered a complete fucking lunatics.

What are some movies about being proven correct time and time again?

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my point. girls start with something like this

Pretty much all of them are very well informed in their fields to where they could talk to you for years about stuff you dont know.

Oh yeah let's pretend she won't watch porn at all once she gets it, right?

Don't be a cunt. We don't tolerate that kind of racism here.

He acted as a man with honor but in the end its him who gets shamed.

Don't masturbate.
Don't have sex.
Don't breed.
Don't have children.

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It's like the other comments said, if she doesn't get a vibrator she'll just use her phone or an electric toothbrush to buzz her clit. If she's horny she's going to masturbate, like literally everyone does. All the dads doing is shaming her sexuality and ensuring she has daddy issues and starts sucking cocks sooner

sorry to hear that
but you realize this isn't common, right?

>I had no idea that's I was doing it until I was 20 and realized it
holy shit

Nobody said sex is bad, she is a child you stupid faggot. I'll leather and throw a laptop in a river if I see them watching degenerate trash and looking at sex toys at 12. Fuck out of here you pussy eurotrash.

Only good comment ITT

I don’t know what’s worse that reddit is posting this shit or that Yea Forums of all fucking places is disgusted by it
I’m actually starting to believe this clown world shit

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Its not stupid, its a homemade masturbation toy for fucks sake
That sounds like a problems from having blue balls right? Which would means it was caused by not masturbating.

Attention anons, nofap can lead to what happened to this guy ,adn hell still think it was masturbation that caused it

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The Soviets were right
We need to quarantine the west

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>porn is bad

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>i'm a retard

FTFY

Bitches understand honor like men understand childbirth: it's something that happens but otherwise have no frame of reference to enable comprehension.

You really think she's not already watching porn lmao? I watched my first porno when I was 10-11.

This
Repressing sexuality is literally proven to have the opposite effect it's intended to have. That's why all fucking teen moms live in conservative areas

>How?
Sexual frivolity leads to hedonism.
Also, since when everything became so sex-related, sub-cultures and even a fucking politc rolls around people's sex and their "rights" or "opression", a child hits puberty and what people's doing, starting to teach how world actually works, teach how to be responsible, how to keep your head under pressure of modern info-space, raise some morale values? nah, more important is what colour of dildo childs chose

Masturbation won't lead into people breeding, in fact it has the opposite effect. Look at the birth rate of Europe. Widespread availability of pornography and mastrubation was one of the man factors contributing to the lowering of birth rates. 3rd word countries don't have that kind of availability to pornography and parents are much stricter with them and they have a much higher birth rate

Dude, this could happen when you're having sex too. You were just unfortunate.
As a sidenote, it's fucking scary how flawed the human body and it's functions are. It can literally fuck itself up from nothing.
"Perfect organism" my ass.

>Not a single person ITT has made a good point

and? the problem is...?
kids are horny, deal with it
also do you think she needs the vibrator to watch porn you retard?

Aaaaah yes, this is definitely television and film

When did you start masturbating, user? Did you look at pornography or magazines when you were doing it?

>it's a homemade masturbation toy?
Homemade? As in you're a retard with no sense of decency or hygiene so you just cum into your socks like a god damn monkey? Welcome to the fucking 21st century retard we have this thing called fucking tissue paper.

But how exactly porn is good?

>Yea Forums - Television & Film

>he expects someone on Yea Forums to make a good point about any topic at all
You need to go back.

>masturbation leads to lots of sex
>masturbation leads to no sex

I'm confused.

Then you must have done something retarded while masturbating. Actual intercourse is much more dangerous for your genitals, up to and including broken penises

Most people only see this in black and white.
They think you either have to support and encourage it or shame it. Masturbation is not wrong, but it's a little different when your parent outright encourages you to do it instead of being indifferent or whatever. Encouraging it will shape how she thinks about the subject matter.
At the same time the OP is still a dumb retard, because the first time I heard the word "dildo" and "vibrator" I looked those things up on the internet too, and often times the google results will lead to a site that sells these things. Just because she was looking at it doesn't mean she was literally planning on buying it. People are too retarded to understand this too it seems.
There's this argument that it's way better to give them a safe toy to experiment with instead of letting them use hands or household objects, and while that is true, literally giving your kid a sex toy doesn't just provide it with a tool but also with a message.

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