Was he a good villain?

>They made him way more powerful than he ever was in the comics
Bullshit. MCU characters are less powerful than their comic counterparts, comic Thanos would wipe the floor with movie Thanos

Pretty much. Thanos made Infinity War great. His 2014 version wasn't in Endgame as much and didn't really interact with the heroes until the end.

In the comics, he didnt have to close his fist to use the stones

He was still upset over losing in 2012. Though since his big ship could likely space-jump as well as the GotG ship I don't see why he didn't just invade Earth earlier rather than sending minions who failed him.

>They turned the Mad Titan into the Ideologically Flawed Titan.
He's still the Mad Titan
He was doing this not because he wanted to fix the galaxy, he was doing it because he was asshurt the Titans had told him to fuck off with his idea he had come up on a whim
Had he truly wanted wanted to help, he would have found a better solution

In "Infinity War", Thanos was a sympathetic villain. He knew what had to be done, and knew there would be people to stop him. What made him likable was that he also respected the opposing sides right to self-preservation, and will fight him to the bitter end.

In "Endgame" we got a different Thanos, he seemed too much like a one-sided villain who wants to destroy the universe "for fun". There was no philosophy attached to his motives, and all respect see to disappear.

>retarded motivation
>Bad motivation
>he would have found a better solution

....lemme guess, "he coulda used the gaunlet to make all the food and resources so no one would be hungry, and there would be no war".....

lol. socialist are so funny.

Really, the big fuckup was that they had Ronan steal Thanos's spiel. Ronan is a cunt, but the whole omnicide shit isn't what his bag is. And Drax had beef directly with Thanos. And Drax actually tore Thanos's heart out in the comics. Punched right through his spine and out the front of his armor.

Note, this is just one arc. The whole Thanos Being A Dick And Being Killed thing has played out many times.

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Yes. Stupid cunt. He has the reality stone. Literally he could make any reality possible, including one where people had access to the resources they needed. Retard.

lol the only thing that could stop him in the comics was himself and marvel jesus

Why didn’t he just make more resources?

kys faggot.

Anything given to you, has no value.

What would be the purpose of life, beside occupying space you stand on?

More Thanos getting his ass beat.

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In if yeah in end game they brought the short bus version of him and fucked it up but still better than most villains

I think the reason why he was less interesting in Endgame was because they had to write him to be a lot more douchey and stereotypically evil.
He was very sympathetic in IW, to the point that a lot of people called him the hero of the story and actually agreed with everything he did.

He literally says just before that that he has never enjoyed killing, but the Avengers have caused him so much trouble that he will enjoy killing them and their entire planet.

Why was he able to be stopped by a handful of guys on Titan with a couple stones, but without the stones on Earth it took almost everyone to beat him?

>2014 Thanos is great
>He gets killed 10 mins in EG
>We get past Thanos
>Doesn't even know who these pissed randos are
>somehow this is an epic final battle
Seeing Scarlet Witch fuck him in every hole was pretty fun but also made him look weak, he was already fucked when everybody came in from the portals, his CGI army was pretty underwhelming and wasted potential for screen time for other Avengers to do something cool before everything blew up.

All they had to do is have him see his little "my gamora" speech and have him become super violently aggressive towards the heroes in order to secure a future where gamora lives. I feel like that's decently sympathetic, but not agreeable

He wasn't almost stopped Strange realized if they got the gauntlet off, Thanos would be teleporting out of there with the time stone and everyone else dead. The only way to beat him was the endgame method. You couldn't stop the mad titan at that point and he knew it.

>if they got the gauntlet (with the infinity stones) off
>thanos would be teleporting (with an infinity stone he does not have) out of there with the time stone (and infinity stone he does not know the location of)

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I'm asking why he was stronger when he didn't have any stones than when he had several of them

I was eluding that he would kill everyone at that point and then get the stone. And the whole thing of endgame would be pointless cause Tony and co are dead early. He would start legitimately killing them all had they gotten that far.

>That face he makes when he realizes his plan will never go into effect. The realization that the other half would find a way. That disappointment,
It was kino but he had much more depth in IW.

He wasn't stronger he was just actually trying to kill people. With the stones no one could really touch or hurt him.

imagine the scientific papers people will actually write about this. like it or not, people will eventually interpret the huge box office as people collectively processing the issue of overpopulation

>Villain fights fair one on one
>The '''good''' guys basically have to take turns lowblowing/hitting him from the back to even make it even

Makes me always want to see the villain win whenever this happens.

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He was very well acted. Well written not so much.

Has anyone written scientific papers about Avatar's huge success being the result of people collectively processing the issue of colonialism?

The next Avengers movie will show the world in chaos. They have to bring Thanos back so he can snap everyone back to the Wakanda battle. They then have to fight him tho with the stones and take them from him. This time they are un-successful and he snaps his fingers and they go to black. That's how you make another billion. Your welcome.

Your argument is inherently flawed, as all existential arguments are. Value is a first principle that will lead all arguments to semantics. It's clear you never studied philosophy, lmao

avatar was the world collectively celebrating the exit of George Bush, they sort of had a guilty pleasure indulging in stories they felt they couldnt before because it'd send the wrong message.

Has anyone written scientific papers about Black Panther's huge success being the result of people collectively processing the issue of white people holding down development in Africa?

I'm not really upset with what they did with Thanos. IW Thanos basically won, he didn't need to fight anymore. If anything, they put him out of his misery because he just looked so weak after both snaps. He seemed satisfied, his death was so meaningless. The Avengers got no satisfaction from killing him because there was no way of undoing his plan.

They had to find a way to make Thanos unlikeable. So they just went with time travel shenanigans to bring a more savage bloodthirsty version of him. And when it came down to it, he was a mean son of a bitch.

>gauntlet is taken off
>"hey tony take this and fly into space"
>"okay"
>make portal around his head and cut it off like his buff minion
you're right. impossible

You are silly

>left to many people alive
>better just start fresh next time
so he's literally God in the Flood?

What was his tax policy?

No his motivation and ideas are shitty
no you dumb fuck
>kill half of all life
>hundreds of planes crash killing thousands
>few people are alive to run generators, water pumps, farms and the like so millions are fucked
>everyone goes to war with each other over needing resources and kill each other
>nations launch nukes killing potential billions
what he should have done was choose who to kill instead of doing "muh random so its balanced" because when 5% of the population is filled with engineers then you have a problem when most of them go away

Why did Thanos dust half the universe instead of just placing a population cap on it? Like after a set number females just can't reproduce becoming infertile. And below that number fertility comes back.
Like god damn, have some fucking creativity.
And then the heros would feel bad because they aren't even saving anyone, just protecting the right for idiots to reproduce at every else's expense.

I thought he was great in infinitiy war but its very obvious the writers flipped his personality.
He went from cold, calculating, and genuinely merciful to edgy, evil, and down right arrogant.
Clown world, they took a good character and made him a huge faggot.

2014 Thanos was a good, intimidating villain but it was not as impactful as he did not have the same history with the Avengers as the 2018 one. I like the suggestion someone had the Nebula pities Thanos when they go to his garden planet and convinced them to spare him and she'll stay behind to help this broken soul attend to his garden. Nebula somehow accidentally reveals the Avengers are working to undo his plan via some memory bank slip up like in the movie we got, he decides he has to stop this and kill Nebula as she tries to stop, gathers what's left of his army and attacks the Avengers as they themselves do the snap that reverses his work and is desperate and hellbent on getting the Stark Gauntlet to do another snap. He's still fucking pissed and ruthless in the final battle but actually has a history with the guys he's fighting and it therefore has more of an impact. When Scarlet Witch confronts him, it's less 'Who the fuck are you?' and more 'I did what needed to be done!' justification.

>He went from cold, calculating, and genuinely merciful to edgy, evil, and down right arrogant.
Wasn't that the point, he even echoes this by saying they got "arrogant", exactly like he was about to do since he has already seen that he wins. Not to mention this Thanos hasn't sacrificed anything yet, and has no personal connection to the heroes other than seeing them decapitate him.

You're an idiot. Thanos in EG is very consistent with Thanos in IW before he kills Gamora and gets the Soul Stone. IW Thanos was nothing but sadistic and cruel to everything but Gamora in the first half, and even then he played manipulative mind games with her. EG Thanos and Thanos in the first half of IW are the same. Thanos cemented himself as a really good character in addition to a villain cause of how he behaved after Vormir, and he should have been the version they fought in the finale. Now fuck off with your 'muh clown wurld' shit.

In Infinity War, he was a great villain. It was the culmination of his life's effort, he did a great job at trying to justify his actions, and he had respect for his opponents. He was simply better than everyone else, and he earned his snap.

In Endgame, it's a younger, more naive version who has his dream handed to him on a silver platter instead of having to work hard for it. He doesn't have the hero's journey that IW Thanos has and that's why he loses.

Obviously it feels better to watch IW Thanos but it's good storytelling regardless.

There was also a suggestion 2018 Thanos uses the reality and soul stones to talk with some ghost or whatever of Gamora. Honestly, Endgame could have had Thanos be the compelling B story had they 2018 not been beheaded, allowed to live, and be the one they fight in the finale. Still, 2014 one was at least a very threatening villain.

That sounds pretty great honestly, maybe at the end he could have had his "oh God I was wrong" moment by seeing how fucked earth was at that time. IW thanos didn't really get any time to react to his daughters death/betrayal

yes but mostly because of the infinity war timeline thanos

I think Thanos in the finale can behave the same broadly other than changing a few lines or adding one or two in, like when he's pressing the axe into Thor to create the same wound Thor gave him some kind of 'How does it feel, Asgardian?' line, and maybe giving Tony some solemn but respectful acknowledge of his will after Tony does the snap and he starts to get dusted.

His "plan" works for about 100 years before population levels return to what they were. The whole point was to get in Death's pants. Shut the fuck up.

Yeah, I'd says so.

>Infinity War Thanos
>Tough but fair
>only wants his end goal
>doesn't needlessly kill or fight
>executes his plan near flawlessly
>finishes what he starts and then leaves

>Endgame Thanos
>younger and stronger (if you forget that its only 4 years)
>willing to kill because his plan is reversing
>cornered and more violent
>goes scorched universe and wants everything gone

They are both good villains. One being more morally grey as one can get, the other a violent and scary form.

He could have been GOAT. Here's what I would have done
>Avengers go to Thanos garden
>Thanos cries about Gamorah and Nebula, realizes they weren't worth losing for his dream of depopulation
>tried to bring back Gamorah with snap but since she died for the Soul Stone ritual she couldn't be brought back
>he destroys the stones in anger
>Avengers leave him a broken creature
>later in movie 2014 Thanos is winning against Avengers.
>2018 Thanos shows up and delivers crippling blow to 2014 Thanos
>2018 Thanos asks Tony to make sure he's part of his "snap"

He was in infinity war. Endgame Thanos was generic as hell

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>In "Endgame" we got a different Thanos, he seemed too much like a one-sided villain who wants to destroy the universe "for fun". There was no philosophy attached to his motives, and all respect see to disappear.

I think that was the point. I mean he saw what they did in the future, they chopped his head off and were trying to undo the snap, guy had all reasons to be pissed and want to kill everyone, it made sense and I think it was great

Perfectly encapsulated by how 2014 Thanos bites it, sits the same way IW Thanos did but instead of a look of contentment or relief he instead is visibly confused, a "what happened, where did i go wrong" look as he gets dusted. He didn't learn anything, the second he saw his own future without experiencing the journey it took him to get there his new fate was set in stone

this is unironically much better than the real Endgame schlock

>after 2018 Thanos asks To be included in the snap, Stark tells him “I hope they remember you”

I feel like Dr.Strange never wanted to defeat Thanos cause he knew the infinity stones could not be defended or trusted with anyone. There was him and Vision. Power, Space, Reality and Soul all needed protectors. Earth essentially would have all 6. Strange see's Thanos destroys the stones and prefers this outcome than trying to find a way to defend 6 stones. Imagine how long he avoided letting Thanos live till he explored those timelines.

If 2014 Thanos is now dead, doesn't that mean he was never there to snap away the universe? Meaning Tony, Gamora, and Natasha never died? Not saying I think they're alive except maybe Gamora, but it seems like it should prevent a lot of the crap that happened.

Id fully back this if they didn't need to include Captain Marvel. Remove Carol from Endgame (stark and nebula make it home without her) and The ship that takes out 2014 Thanos's Ship, is 2023 Thanos's ship.

also Id include Thanos asking Nebula to stay in the garden, as she's his only surviving child, and even Nebula rejects him.

As far as I know, when Steve returned the Power Stone the second after it was taken by Nebula and Rhodey that completely erased that whole alternative timeline in which Thanos finds out, goes to the present, etc. The film makes a point that doing shit like killing baby Thanos only benefits an alternative timeline that action creates, not the main one.

Rhodey had the stone and removed it from the timeline. Future Nebula was not removed from the 2014 timeline till after this. Perhaps cap could prevent it, but it still happens in the reality we saw.

Captain Marvel was bullshit. That whole fight should have gone to Hulk for the shit that happened at the start of Infinity War. CM didn't earn shit against Thanos. How cool would it have been to see Thanos headbutt Hulk and him not flinch at all?

That sort of makes sense, but wouldn't good Nebula have already inadvertantly transmitted her signal by then?

Everyone wants to say he is bad yet everyone today benefits from choices made by people with his mindset.

Listen man, your ancestors were hungry and on the brink of starving. Do you kill the opposing tribe down to the last infant or let them live and you all starve together?
They killed down to the last. That’s why you’re here.
You don’t agree with Thanos, unironically ky to make the world right

Changing the past doesn’t affect the future

In Infinity War yes. The story followed him more closely and he filled more than just the typical "villain" role. Endgame wasn't the same. He was just the standard Marvel villain with a modest amount of screentime and there to lose to the heroes. I think Infinity War was better.

In Endgame time travel rules, the past of a specific timeline cannot be amended. Travelling back in time puts you in a different timeline. 2014 Thanos's timeline was presumably saved because he went to the prime timeline and died. Prime Thanos still snapped and was beheaded by Thor.

Starving folks value the gift of food, the knowledge of agriculture and seeds of self reliance.
I value free PS4 games, WIFI and education.
You value nothing and spite others for seeing beyond your ignorance.

So, you have like 4 three year olds, 2 five years olds and a 7 year old all kind of trying to fight you. Why are they fighting you? Because you're doing your job that as far as you know needs to be done because it's something really important.
You're going to knock them away and shrug them off.
Their no real threat to you and you don't really want to hurt them. They are just weak, stupid and don't understand why you're trying to do what you're doing.

Then someone shows you a video of the future where they legitimately murder you because you finished your job.

Would you hold back the second time after seeing your own death at their hands?

imagine what his penis must look like

Went from "nothing personnal you guys" to "I will enjoy destroying your planet" for absolutely no reason

Maybe that's why there's Daisy Ridley's & Fags. Just saying

sneed

>Main timeline Thanos succeeds and eliminates half of all life.
>Destroys the stones so no one else can undo his work or use them selfishly.
>Accepts his death
>Avengers have to invent time travel to steal stones from other universes to undo their universe's Thanos's work
>They struggle to defeat another universe's Thanos and lose main timeline Tony
Pretty great villain, really.

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That was another universe they went to. It's not really time stravel, it's interdimensional / another time line travel. This is explained in the film.
That universe fortunately never had to suffer Thanos getting all the infinity stones now, they got to continue on happy as always but there are no guardians of the galaxy because this interrupted the plot of that film.

socialism doesn't work because in the real world resources are finite sometimes even scarce, if there were infinite resources made by the infinity stones then it would work

Other than, you know, them killing him and undoing his lifes-work. Are you an actual retard?

>Hey I'll just destroy half of your loved ones
>WTF why are you trying to kill me
>I'm so upset now
Retarded villain without any real plan or depth

Any plot device involving time travel is utterly retarded, although to be fair it wasn't "Days of Future Past" tier

Capeshit movies are made to please everyone. They cannot have any message that isn't
>love your country but not too much
>don't be racist
>don't be sexist
>love the Earth
Besides, scarcity of resources is a thing about Utopian Socialism, not the kind Marx & friends had in mind

2018 Thanos was cringe
2023/2014 Thanos was absolutely based and redpilled

he was offended that the remaining living beings weren't grateful with his "sacrifice"

He's the only thing in Marvel movies I've enjoyed since 2008

Wrong again dipshit. He broke the heroes morally, they were no longer fighting for an objective good like he was, they were fighting for selfish reasons. He wanted to re-create a universe without suffering. The problem was that it would come at the price of their lives. Thats what makes it interesting; in a cosmic sense Thanos is right but on a personal level he is wrong. In a vacuum, destroying everything and creating a new, perfect world is the objective right choice and the Avengers should have no qualms with it. But it comes at the price. They have to die. Not "someone", them. Not "others", their families and friends.

Their greed and insistence on preventing him from creating a utopia incurred his wrath.

Yeah I felt that, in his last cut

He is a stupid popcorn movie villain nothing more.

Joker in TDK was a good villain. Thanos is the regular 2d moustache twirler only he likes to talk philosophy, that doesn't make him a good villain.

a good villain for a movie for 6yos

>Anything given to you, has no value.

Life was given to you, so if you think it has no value then kill yourself.

Yes

Regarding his motivation, the whole point is that he is, indeed, an unhinged genius, whose obsession with "balancing the universe" is borne less by belief in its logic and more out of even-more-maddening guilt over inability to prevent his homeworld's destruction. He is frankly and obviously wrong, but his singleminded obsession with proving himself right and twisted desire to make up for his perceived failure- as well as, presumably, the weight of the atrocities he has already committed to achieve it all- will never allow him to see any different.

Which is why he's such a satisfying combination of threatening, sympathetic, and despicable: he'll never change his mind no matter how well he is reasoned with; his reasons for doing what he does are, at the heart, not so different from Iron Man's desire to protect no matter the cost; and all the while he's causing untold misery and horror he'll truly believe he's a tormented savior and dismiss opponents with a simple "You just don't get it."

So who is going to replace him in the coming capeshit?

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3pbp
He singlehandedly make IW great. They actually managed to make a fleshed out villain that we cared about. In Endgame he was just there so they could spend the CGI budget in an orgiastic massive battle which wasn't a bad thing, but he wasn't nearly as good as he was in IW. Much more flat.

He was alright.

Yeah at this point it's like can you really blame him?

Imagine someone literally transcending the fabric of space and time to undo your life's work and long term dream? He was upset, and understandably so.

no since he had a stupid notion and his chin looked like a ball sac

They have time travel and the stones. Let's go there, it's not like they are waiting for me ready to snap fingers the moment I cross the threshold. And who cares how they achieved time travel in the first place. Man...Thanos was supposed to be a mastermind.

In Infinity War, yes. He was fantastic. In Endgame, a little less so, but I still thought he was great.

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I miss them both so much

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Would Yea Forums like this better if he was closer to the comics?

>The only reason he's committing genocide by the billions is because he wants to impress a thot who is literally the personification of Death

>Days of Future Past
I liked the time travel there more.

>no depth
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