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Is she right?
Did this bitch completely miss the Ramsay part? He realized the error of his ways and redeemeed himself
Female characters aren't supposed to be flawed and have depth and an interior world, you silly.
A redemptive arc for a woman would imply a woman did anything wrong which is a pretty problematic idea if you ask me tbqhwyf
People aren't good or bad. People do bad things and they do good things. Theon did more good than he did bad in his later life.
Of course you autists like this guy. He murdered boys, killed innocent people, and took advantage of women. What did I miss? She's unironically right about him
It's funny how close she is to seeing the truth but missing it due to her own bias.
The reason you don't see redemption story for women is that would imply the woman did a lot of things wrong and needs to improve.
And you can't say that! Even if a woman is evil, she had a good reason! Why can't a woman have a right to do as she pleases! Plus, she was probably victimized anyway!
#Bitchesgetshitdone
Weird how Yea Forums shills for Tywin, Jaime, Theon, and Stannis. They all killed kids, innocent people, and sexually abused women. Imagine defending these people. They only felt bad bc bad things happened to them. Meanwhile, Arya, Jon, Dany, Sansa, and Sam are getting shit done
There is probably some interesting psychological answer to that based on the type of people who frequent chans - including myself who often has a hard time being on the side of the people the narrative keeps on the better end of the spectrum of good and evil.
Yeah, imagine.
>game of Reddit
Back to your containment general you cancerous nigger
Wow. Even pity women complain they're not getting enough of
what a fucking idiot, she did not understand a single thing about theon's arc. he was a fucking prisoner that was raised by the man who beat his father in a war. he fucked up, admitted, was tortured and mutilated, and then he spent the rest of his life trying to fix his fuckups by helping the people he betrayed. i unironically can't think of a better redemption arc in modern fiction
i dont like theon and seeing him dying was the second best part of the episode for me
but he passed like 4 seasons suffering, being literally tortured, lost his dong, become a pet, and everything
dunno, i didnt like his redemption because i never liked him, but he kind of had his punishement
>Is she right?
what do you mean? she's just your typical SJW - she thrives off bullying , belittling and psychologically torturing poeple, in what manner can she be right (other than "might makes right", which modern journalists understand perfectly)?
I thought the red woman redeemed herself? She did shitty things and tried to fix it after feeling remorse
the shireen sacrifice was how she brought jon back from the dead. the whole only death can pay for life thing. the snows melted because mel needed to get to castle black
Most of u on Yea Forums like Jaime and Theon and Stannis so you have mo room to talk, retard. How about u act like a normal person and recognize they're bad and root for, idk, the fucking good guys
Imagine thinking this is a burn against me bc I have a moral code. Right, just compare me to vox to make u think u win the argument. Kys faggot
can't wait until next week when davos comments on how he forgives her
Probably because most people on Yea Forums are contrarians and have a shitty moral code but have a little goodness in them. They don't want to identify with the good guys like Jon and Sam because they're insecure, so they think they're interesting if they like Jaime and Stannis and Theon, all dickheads who think they're right until get humbled and it's too late
Only Stannis and Jaime are well liked. Stannis was based as fuck, and his story arc is bullshit. Jaime went from asshole to good guy, it was always shown throughtout the show that Jaime always had a little good in him as opposed to Cersei
But why not just root for the guys that were always good like Jon and Sam and maybe Sansa and Arya? Makes no sense
Still don't know how u can be "based" and have a shitty arc lol he just walked and talked, lost both battles, burned his daughter, then died. Wow. So compelling
Theon Greyjoy is unironically one of the best characters in literature.
People who are flawed are more interesting. Their flaws make you relate to them more. Fucking retard.
you don't know what you're talking about, mate. Take that advice from me, you're talking and talking about stuff you don't understand. Are you really gonna be so arrogant? I doubt it, you seem sensible. You seem like you'll say "Oh, alright, I suppose there are perspectives I'm missing, and so I shan't go on and talk shit because maybe I can find these perspectives agreeable". If this isn't your answer you're quite clearly trolling
Spoiler: This is a fantasy show. It is not real. These characters do not exist. Liking one over another is not indicative of a person's moral character. With that being said, you're a nigger and a faggot.
Shut up roastie take this shit to Reddit
>rooting for Sam
What kind of cocksucker does shit?
>cnn
>not at least archiving it
Fuck off
Reminder Arya btfo Littlefinger & The Night King. But you can keep muh morally grey character
this shit*
Theon stood by and watched while a girl was brutally raped by a short ugly man.
How fucking dare he get a redemption arc.
You think people choose who to like based off what they think will make them interesting? Arr you female?
Because arya is a cringy edgelord and Sansa is a lifeless thot
>CNN
>literally moralfagging over got
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
because the former are all interesting and flawed characters, the primary reason people were interested in this shit show for the longest time, the latter are all characters that could be transplanted into any fantasy world and fit right in, why in the fuck would I care about them
Jon is based too, he killed Olly.
>.cnn
how do you even end up on there? are you like, a 40yo house mom with too much free time?
Your point is...?
Relatable? So you've pushed kids out of windows and fucked ur sister like Jaime? You killed kids and betrayed your family like Theon? You murdered you daughter like Stannis? You acted like a snake like Littlefinger? These are assholes. How tf do u relate to that lol
>Makes all of the Dothraki people go extinct within the span of a few years
Nothing personnel, sandniggas
I'm saying there are lots of times Yea Forums unironically defends these characters. I don't mean like "oh we like them cause they're interesting and make good drama", I mean, they literally defend their actions and unironically think they're good and people like Arya and Sam and Jorah and Jon and Dany are evil or cucks
U faggots trying defending their actions too
Those were all flawed men who tried to do the right thing, but sometimes made mistakes. That's more interesting than people who just always do right/good things. They're objectively better characters. Except Stannis. D&D didn't get Stannis (Because they're numales, and fucking morons.) and completely butchered his character for pointless shock value.
Jaime = kills innocent people, attempts to murder a child, fucks his sister, only starts to turn good because he went through pain
Sam = ultimate underdog. First to kill a white Walker, found out about Jon, survived multiple battles, has sex with women not his sister, always stayed good despite a shitty world
She gets shit done is still alive, unlike all of the other assholes who just botched and hurt people but still played victim once bad shit happened and they couldn't take a dose of their own medicine. See Stannis, Jaime, Theon. Losers.
women were a mistake
What did they miss about Stannis? I never read the books. I always thought Dillane looked good as Stannis, though
>These are assholes. How tf do u relate to that lol
Be female.
Jaime saved the entire city from being burned alive but still got saddled with the title of kingslayer, being held in contempt by the entire world despite the fact that he saved countless lives.
Theon always felt out of place, not fully a stark, but not "manly" enough to be accepted as a greyjoy either, and the need to be accepted either by his natural or adopted family caused his descent into reek.
Book Stannis literally told them to pray harder and fuck off with sacrifices, tv Stannis is a caricature made by writers who completely failed to understand his character.
Littlefinger was a magnificent bastard that amused readers with his plans, and he had a decent backstory.
Every character you listed had human flaws that made them interesting and relatable, or they were cleverly written like littlefinger, for a story to survive it must have interesting characters, otherwise the reader gets bored and wont buy any more of your books.
A character that has no human flaws and its good just for the sake of being good is a boring character, and boring characters kill stories.
he looked pretty stupid charging the NK.
like he had a big ass and was kind of awkward looking when you saw his whole body. also - it was a pretty gay way to die. pull out a sword and fight like a man, not some screaming bitch.
>why can't be have a redemption arc for a woman?
Because it's not believable enough for the fantasy genre.
You say that stuff like it's fact. If this is so true why do the majority of the people hate said characters and prefer, you know, good fucking guys like Jon and Sam and Arya and Sansa. Just look at the popularity dude. You're wrong
are women even interested in redemptive stories for themselves? they seem more interested in social struggles and examining people's inner stories without simple moral judgements.