THEY FUCKED EXPLAINED WHO THE NIGHT KING WAS AND WHAT HE WANTED TWO SEASONS AGO, YOU FUCKING RETARDS
He was created by the Children of the Forest to destroy the First Men and they lost control of him. That's it. There's no mindblowing, grand twist. Question answered.
You can argue all you want about his death being a letdown (and I'll agree with you) but stop with these dumbfuck posts whining about how we never knew who he was or what he wanted.
I guess we akk just thought that there would be more to it than that. Its just so stupid. >ya hes just some guy the children put a rock in and now hes made of ice
Jack Campbell
except they have whitewalker castles and a society in the north. They have mysterious plans. We dont really know exactly why they want to go south. Just saying "muh lebensraum" is just as cheap as saying that about Hitler. Clearly there is always a complex ideology behind a lifelong ambition. But you dont understand that. You just think "he was evil, who cares lmao"
Luke Murphy
Game of Thrones is fanfiction you dumb fucks
Wait for the books
Fucking show cut my nigga Victarion Greyjoy and the Blackfyre storyline, fuck this shit since season 4
Isaac Williams
it was 8 seasons of build up for a disappointing conclusion.
Thomas Baker
GRRM is done. He doesn't want to finish the books.
Josiah Russell
Still a lot of unanswered questions.
What did he want with Bran? Why did they take the new born babies when they could've just killed everyone in Craster's house? What was his endgame? What would he do once everyone was dead?
Noah Thomas
>Victarion Based yet retarded >brother rapes your wife >kill her instead of him due to your retarded honour
David Gutierrez
>stop with these dumbfuck posts whining about how we never knew who he was or what he wanted. But what is his tax policy?
Jaxson Gutierrez
>Wait for the books Only if they go into the Night King's bowel movements in tremendous detail.
Sebastian Cruz
more than that, why not kill all wildlings who already live beyond the wall? Apparently there were millions. If the nightking had truly been such a pure evil guy, he would have exterminated all of them pretty much immediately. Why allow them to live? We can make theories about it but it doesnt make any sense that these white walkers would just wait in the deep deep north without almost ever being seen, even by the wildlings.
Sebastian Ward
ahh the ol Islam technique
Jordan Green
>What did he want with Bran?
“He wants to erase this world, and I am its memory.”
They told you last week, idiot.
Josiah Parker
WHY DID HE DECIDE TO GO SOUTH WHEN THEY HAD EVERYTHING UP NORTH???????
Henry Long
>be doomsday weapon >be out of control >Do nothing for 3000 years >Suddenly decide now is the time to destroy humanity >"Why?" >THEY FUCKED EXPLAINED WHO THE NIGHT KING WAS AND WHAT HE WANTED TWO SEASONS AGO, YOU FUCKING RETARDS
nah, bro. he's a force of nature, not some adolf hitler. you're the one who doesn't understand that because his early demise proved your shitty theories wrong. i bet you think he's gonna come back kek
Juan Brooks
according to *your* logic he should come back if he actually were a force of nature
Robert Sullivan
Oh God, GoT is coming crashing down. The new LOST.
Dominic Foster
you are objectively wrong. A force of nature would have killed all the wildlings and all other life up north. the writers are just idiots.
Cameron Morgan
It's actually because killing women is easier
Ethan Lee
Nah man i think GRRM was waiting for the show to finish, then all the attention would be in the books. He didn't want competition between his fanbase
Ethan Carter
>He was created by the Children of the Forest to destroy the First Men and they lost control of him. That's it.
So he's just a mindless killing machine like Jaws? Sucks.
Alexander James
Why was he immune to dragon fire? was he a targ?
Ian Long
>Jaws >Jews White Walkers are a metaphore of the Jews
>babies so that they could turn them into WWs which apparently is only doable with infants
Jacob Price
why did he want bran so much though?
Oliver Phillips
Make Westeros Great Again.
Christian Long
>What did he want with Bran? He's a living wikipedia on wheels, if he kills him, humanity loses countless years worth of information. >What was his endgame? What would he do once everyone was dead? He would just chill. >Why did they take the new born babies His lieutenants are Craster's sons. White Walkers can't reproduce, they can only be created from humans.
Ryan Brown
No, that's just a spiral. Back to the force of nature, circle of life idea.
Dylan Brooks
force of nature does not equal unstoppable. it just means he wants to kill hoomanz because they fuck shit up. he doesn't have any ulterior motives, and you think he has then you're a deluded little fanboy who's trying to cope because he feels disappointed
Elijah Howard
cool so he didnt kill all the wildings in the north because...? force of nature does mean unstoppable and unkillable btw
Angel Hughes
shitty writing is shitty writing, bro. you trying to build your theory around that shitty writing makes you a moron.
Eli Adams
boi pussy
Gavin Morgan
so what the fuck was he doing for 8.000 years then.
Aiden Young
jerking off
Jaxson Carter
>shitty writing is acceptable because it has a in-universe justification The state of reddit got shills
Isaac Hill
He was a bad guy
Brandon Diaz
>spend thousands of years building up your rep >feared throughout the lands of Westeros, people use your name to scare children at night >finally the red comet comes and your prophesied march south begins! >die like a bitch in your first battle to a girl with a toothpick
John Rivera
The Night King was created thousands of years ago. Targs (and valyrians in general) were sheepfuckers without any dragons or magic back then, and none even set foot on Westeros before Aegon, only 300 years before the show. The only way he's a Targ is that he's also somehow Brynden Rivers (aka the Three-eyed Raven) gone back into the sacrificed body of the Andal that becomes the NK.
And it still wouldn't make sense.
Nicholas Hughes
cripple fetishist
Ian Gray
Except GRRM sat down the producers and D&D and explained exactly what was going to go down canonically. All of this shit in the Show is what GRRM planned and wanted. Accept it
Connor Johnson
Then why didn't the night king kill all the humans when they were simple goat fuckers that didn't pose a threat?
The thing about killing Bran because he remembers everything is kind of pointless if your whole goal is to destroy all of humanity. Why would you prioritize Bran yourself anyway? He could've just killed him through the horde no reason for him to go and catch up with Bran directly. That's my whole point.
So you needed Craster to give you more lieutenants, why have lieutenants anyway though? you have a horde going in a single direction it's not like you're breaking up your horde and splitting them across the realm and need legates for each legion of horde.
Levi Ross
He wanted to capture Bran and use his autismo powers to kill the rest of humanity 100x more easily.
Josiah Evans
But why?
Adam Perez
This movie is so good in the Director's Cut it's not even fair the theatrical release ever existed
Lincoln Turner
The children of the forest are the bad guys. Humans were trying to kill them off because they were bad little monsters. Bran is the three eye raven. Bran is the bad guy.
Wyatt Scott
>Then why didn't the night king kill all the humans when they were simple goat fuckers that didn't pose a threat? Because he liked to watch.
Grayson Carter
It seems like the writers never had an explanation for why the Night King wanted to destroy all of humanity other than he’s just a bad guy and that’s his thing. I guess then I’m glad they got rid of him and made Cerci the final boss.
Kayden Sanders
Then why didn't he just... kill him? He had an unlimited amount of chances and ways of killing bran the disabled raven. Throw a spear at him like he did the dragon. Let his armies kill him. Stab him. Starve them out. The list is infinite, the one thing he shouldn't have done is walk up to him as if he actually wanted to do something else.
Or maybe you're saying that the writers for this series are spastics, which is the real answer to every single question regarding this series now.
Cooper Green
Dabid literally said they were having a conversation about who gets to kill the Night King. Obviously the fat man didn't tell them everything.
William Baker
Wasn't he just following his original programming and going to kill men?
Connor Scott
It's implied by their attacks on the Children and the existence of non-human wights that he's trying to kill literally everything.
Gavin Flores
>he's middle earth's/westeros' osama bin laden yeah, fine. bin laden's death was kind of a letdown too, so at least there's historical precedent.
Alexander Young
WHAT DID THOSE GODAMN SYMBOLS MEAN THAT NK KEPT LEAVING AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE?!@?@??@?#$I$#(2
Joseph Bell
Osama isn't NK, he didnt want all humanity killed, he only liked dead westerners
Lincoln Bell
You can blame him? Memes aside, he's living the life and I would do the same shit that he's doing. If he die before finish his shitty epics the butthurt will be glorious.
Easton Williams
Reddit spacing has increased drastically over the last week, what did capeshit/GoT normie tourists mean by this?
Aiden Green
An end to tax.
Charles Walker
Lost was way better than this. At least Lost didn't have to rely on books for its good seasons.
Why did the dead even attack? It's not like they were afraid of the cold or may lack supplies. They LITERALLY had to starve them for a couple months Hell, they could wait fucking YEARS just standing around if they wanted.
Mason Walker
yeah but why
Lincoln Nelson
They really really really wanted to kill Brann because... well I'm not really sure why.
Owen Peterson
>GRRM told them that 7 seasons of preparation comes to an end in a garden where the little girl teleports behind him and assassinates him ending the greatest threat the world has known in a single episode with no notable characters dying on the human side wow
Julian Anderson
So the NK just milks his undead women to feed to babies? Does he wait until they grow and then kills them and turns them r he just has a bunch of undead toddlers in his army?
Luke Gomez
>Wait for the books your funny user i'll give you that
Luke Williams
dont make excuses for that fat hack
Caleb Jenkins
yeah that show would be fucking great you mook
Jason Wilson
>The show can either be boring or completely retarded That's why you need good writers to find the good balance.
Ayden Lewis
To fullfill the prupose of his existence, kill all men. The only thing left unexplained is why he turned against the children of the forest. But is Magic, aint gonna explain shit.
Chase Stewart
imagine the shitstorm, glorious
Asher Sanchez
When did they lose control of them? Why didn't he wipe out humanity sooner? Why did he wait until dragons were reborn, when there was a long period without without the thread of giants. Why was the horn buried with dragonglass?
>He's a living wikipedia on wheels, if he kills him, humanity loses countless years worth of information Yeah if only humans could design some other way to record information, and if only there were an order of learned men to pass this knowledge on to others...
John Ortiz
The kinslayer is cursed, the hoeslayer is celebrated
Tyler Smith
Anyone got a Mega link? My stream ended in the last 5 minutes.
Mason Lewis
>dead westerners >dead in westeros pottery?
Landon Ward
his looming stormwall grows
Brayden Anderson
>The war that GRRM didn't even finish writing was a war for the fate of civilization and the future of humanity, and that’s become the template. I’m not sure that it’s a good template, though. The GRRM model led generations of fantasy writers to produce these endless series of dark lords and their evil minions who are all very ugly and wear black clothes. But the vast majority of wars throughout history are not like that.
He’s not a force of nature, the White Walkers clearly have their own culture and personalities, it’s just never elaborated upon
Carson Russell
>why are you upset that a story made of grey areas has a black and white ending to an arc
Ethan Jackson
>he wanted to capture bran Then why was he about to draw his sword before ayra jumped in?
Colton Jackson
but she's a jedi, she's got the force behind her
Julian Carter
Clearly NK knows something that no one else does. Bran is the ultimate evil here, he's with the Children of the Forest and wants to see mankind extinguished
Jayden Parker
he was literally about to kill him you fucking retard
William Robinson
He was going to kill him you moron, Night King took his time because he thought he won, he just didn't expect the shit Arya pulled.
Anthony Stewart
What the fuck was the night king supposed to do when there was a giant wall and no dragon to destroy it?
Nathan Ramirez
>He's a living wikipedia on wheels, if he kills him, humanity loses countless years worth of information.
Humanity seemed to get along fine without any assistance from the previous three eyed raven. He didn't use this knowledge to shape the course of history, nor shared them. Bran himself did not offer much technical advice of worth for the battle, wasn't able to piece together Jon's lineage without Sam, and spent his time sight seeing rather than providing intel.
The kind of knowledge that actually matters to human progress: technology, philosophy, politics, economics (sure, that includes taxes), seem to be preserved and passed down just fine. The only situation where Bran would matter is if there were some cataclysm that wiped out much of humanity and our accumulated knowledge, such as what happened to Valyria. Absent a calamity, along with poorly articulated consequences for his death and being nearly a non-factor during the battle, Bran's arc isn't fully actualized and lacks closure. I know we have 3 more episodes to go, but I can't see how he could be important. At least not in any way that doesn't perpetuate the old ways and cliches that I thought this entire series wanted to upend and overthrow.
James Foster
This explanation is underwhelming and shitty as fuck you braindead retard. That's why everyone was hoping there would be something more to it. When you hype up this guy for 7 seasons one would expect it to be something more interesting than "lol he's just a weapon".
Asher Gonzalez
>When you hype up this guy for 7 seasons one would expect it to be something more interesting than "lol he's just a weapon".
I think something even more disappointing was that this weapon was confronted and defeated with force and violence. It validates every bad person, every Cersei, and the "wheel" itself.
If this truly is the end of the Night King and the northern threat, then I feel mildly deceived.
Evan Jones
To destroy the realms of men and rule over them in eternal winter. He's no different to Sauron or Morgoth. Why are people so butthurt that he doesn't have a deep and complex motivation?
Mason Lee
>He's no different to Sauron or Morgoth. George R.R Martin LITERALLY promised he wouldn't be that. So fuck you.
Levi Richardson
There is nothing i can say to people who actually defend this retarded shit. He should have just killed him instead of killing himself and you know it.
Carson Morales
>according to show NK has been around for ~8k years >in that time he’s ammounted (since his first defeat, btw this was never explained, how was he defeated the first time if he’s still alive) to accumulate about, a thousand zombies and 20 white walkers (in the fucking span of 8000 years)
If this guy was truly out to kill all men he’d be dormant a thousans years so people forget about him, then he kidnaps wildlings, makes infinite white walkers from babies, all those that die from sickness or old age are raised as zombies, do this in the far fucking north where no one hears about it. In a thousand years you’d have millions of zombies and a hundred thousand white walkers.
And if he wanted to kill all of man, hed have just said fuck winterfell, sent half his army there with WW to raise dead, and go south himself and kill all of Westeros and then sail east. He could’ve overran the entire world in a year
Blake Peterson
>Mysterious undead entity setup over 8 years turns out to be generic zombie meanie >why are you complaining they expositioned it last week? imagine being this autismo that you just eat up shit writing like a full on plebtard because "they said"
Oliver Green
To suck and fuck
Jackson Gonzalez
> no long winter freezing lords in their castles and being hunted by white walkers on giant ice spiders > No treacherous journey to the frozen north > Dark Lord is dark lord cos reasons > Warging basically did nothing, Bran didn't watch a dragon > Resurrecting Jon basically did nothing, let teleport behind you > Daenerys coming out of the flames with 3 dragons basically did nothing > Who will kill who to make lightbringer? No one > Thousands of years for literally "a long night x1" > No existential threat to make squabbling kingdoms re-evaluate how they do things "muh gonna end the wheel" > Varys and Tyrion still do nothing > No one had to fight a single white walkers for any reason > Faceless neophyte girl zips passed all of the zombie lords unnoticed > Symbolism just to tell us there was a connection between WW & Children of the forest Holy fuck not even Cleganebowl "we thought having the hound kill the mountain would be too obvious so Arya kills him" won't save the show.
I'm pretty convinced that the meme ending I heard about Euron blowing up Jon is probably going to happen
If he wanted to finish them he'd still die before he got an ending. But he doesn't, he's fucking done m8, it's never gonna happen.
This was the greatest monkey paw trick ever pulled. >Hey kid, would you like to see your favourite book series adapted in a huge budget tv show? >Oh boy mister, would I ever! >Haha you're gonna remember this moment in 10 years >When the books are finished??
God I'm so unhappy with my life
Bentley Diaz
Because that fat fuck gurm shat on beloved Aragorn for not having a tax policy.
Grayson King
No you retard, he give them guidelines and they mcan and have worked outside those guidelines, Martin doesn't even watch the show anymore (of course he actually does, he just can't shit on the show openly for years).
Jose Kelly
Martin never did that and Martin isn't to blame for the fucking show.
Jaxson King
Here's how it's gonna go down >Dany now knows that Jon is her brother, and the heir to the throne >Dany has wanted the throne for herself, so she begins to plotting to have Jon killed >Bronn arrives in Winterfell and tells both Jaime and Tyrion about Cersei paying him to kill them >Jaime and Tyrion vow to kill her >all hell breaks loose >Dany tries to kill Jon but Jon realizes at the last minute and they stab one another >They say some sappy shit to each other then croak >CLEGANEBOWL GET FUCKIN HYPE for about 5 minutes and Sandor kills Gregor >Golden company put up a good fight but they fall >Yara hears of Theon's death and ends up killing Euron >Cersei is captured alive >Cersei is executed and Jaime, who is overcome with grief even after Cersei tried to kill him, commits sashimi >Sansa's vag is super duper wet and she ends up with Tyrion >Tyrion convinces Sansa to stay in what's left of King's Landing >Arya and Gendry decide to stay in Winterfell >Sandor goes with Arya >Bronn and Pod the Rod stays with Tyrion >Brienne finally lets Tormund dig in them guts and he's happier than a queer in a pecker patch >Grey Worm and Missandei go find those beaches and scissor each other I guess >Sam and Gilly stay on in Winterfell
Luis Gutierrez
None is more accursed than the kinslayer, showfag
Ryder Jenkins
>why are people butthurt that a show about warring factions and characters with complex motivations had a main villain that didn't have a complex motivation
gee I wonder. Sauron works because LOTR is built in a mythological world of good vs evil. people meme about muh tax policy quote but that wasn't so much a critique of LOTR so much as George pointing out the differences between the series.
Robert Brooks
desu even George had described Victarion as being retarded. he's actually supposed to be a dumb brute character
Christopher Howard
ok great we know who they are, what the fuck did he want with bran?
Juan Cook
DUDE, JUST SHUT YOUR BRAIN OFF DUDE!
Leo Sanders
>He's no different to Sauron or Morgoth Sauron >starts off as a good boi >has a great love of order and structure >wants to improve things to give people better lives >gradually comes to despise the inhabitants of the world because of their imperfections >joins with Morgoth because even though he wants to destroy everything he at least actually knows what he's doing >ambiguous as to whether or not he was genuinely on Morgoth's side or was just using him for his own ends >attempts to repent but eventually goes back to his old ways because he's got a taste of what it's like to be on top >spends hundreds of years building himself up militarily only to be defeated by the Numenoreans >realising he can't defeat them he lets himself get captured and begs for mercy >worms his way up from a lowly prisoner to the advisor to the King >convinces him to attack the LotR equivalent of Heaven >with Numenor out of the way he slowly resurrects himself and resumes building up his forces >by the time of LotR he's expecting a big epic showdown with Aragorn wielding the ring >when he realises that he's been duped he freaks out and panics, giving us a little insight into how his mind works >the small snippet of The New Shadow we got shows us that even after his defeat his spectre still loomed over Middle-Earth
Night King >wants to destroy everything for no reason >barely makes it past the Wall before being defeated forever
He’s better than all that. He can tell you exactly what happened in any event as though it is happening in real time.
Brody Evans
This.
It's 100 percent fan fiction.
Christian Baker
Is he even in the books. I don't remember anything in the books about white walkers more than just a couple of people running into them here and there. They are a looming threat, but not really focused on.
William Edwards
They explained it during the battle planning scene of episode 2. It was cheap and rendered all this pointless
Juan King
The Night King in the books is a Lord Commander that went mad. A totally different character at a different time. D&D just took the name and made up a White Walker king.