>stares at him for solid 10 minutes
>slooooooooowly takes off his sword
>ear quasimogirl crawling behind him
>easily and quickly grab her
>could literally crush her frail juvenile neck instantly
>doesn't because plot hole #1567
>wait
>slowly look as she drop the knife mid air
>thinks huh what could happen? uh oh
>gets killed
why?
The real hero here was Bran and his autism powers
This, Bran orchestrated the whole fucking thing.
>Night king walks towards Bran
>Bran becomes "Autistic Raven".
>Arya jumps towards the night king
>Night king can catch her just in time.
>Nobody questions this because Autism 3000
>Arya tries to stab night king in the belly
>Armour.jpg
>Arya spergs out keeps poking night king as he smiles and breaks Arya's neck like a twig
>'WHOOOOOOOSH'
>A Valyrian Bolt buries itself in the night Kings right eye as he turns into Ice dust
>Camera pans towards smug looking Bronn on the rubles of the wall holding a crossbow
>"Where's that blood dwarf??"
The hero Westeros needed, but NOT the one they deserved IMHO
still thinking about Sansa's rape
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>hound survives arya stab
>night king doesnt
hound canonically more powerful that night king CONFIRMED
This show is painfully bad. Hollywood writing really is fucking dead.
kek
welcome to contrived writing where everyone clearly does things purely to serve a plot progression rather than feeling organic
No Bryndon Ryvers did.
The whole scene feels like some kind of videogame trailer. Hamfisted drama without a hint of subtlety. Out of place music without any ambient sound whatsoever, The halo 3 toy trailer comes to mind, literally can't get it off my head.
they're the same person
because you're homo sex.
I would have probably cried tears of joy
>bran goes raven flight simulator
They literally did the exact same gag with the giant and the mormont girl earlier in the episode.
Same difference
it started kino as fuck, the fire swords going out was 10/10. Then it ends with a YA novel
>Maintained, modern brigandine armor against tiny smallsword.
>Ancient, rotten ass armor from before the Andals probably made of fucking copper and wicker against a valyrian steel dagger
I knew the fire swords would go out the second they did it. Really, the cavalry should have been used in hit and runs, not some dumbass frontal charge into what is likely spear/pike wielding zombies.
Even fucking video games are smarter than this.
i was happy when he crushed her. she was so annoying. she couldn't just be a proud queen. know, she had to let the world know she's a strong, independent wahman who needs no man.
It was happening so slowly that I was sure that the Night King wasn't going to kill him. I thought he was gonna fucking kneel or speak or some other crazy shit then cut to credits.
what were the dothraki going to do if the fire witch didnt show up? they had 0 weapons to kill white walkers with
>unsullied are routed in a perfect phalanx with fucking SPEARS
>Could have literally killed all of them outside of the gates by stabbing them with the second and third rows alternating
>no arrows coming from behind the unsullies connect to any white walkers
The whole battle was shit
>bran looks solemnly at the NK.
>"You beat me this time"
>Audience reminded that death/life is cyclical
>NK goes in for the kill
>Bran flakes is stabbed
>NK looks satified with what he has done
>A stabbing sound is heard as the NK eyes change and he dies and shit
>Bran's last tactical play in the GoT is an exchange for the knowledge of the world to beat/delay death.
But instead we have arya flying at Sonic speed and got him with the old dagger drop
Same here
So why does the Night King look like an adult version of Bran? Was that uncanny resemblance really just nothing?
fuck why is this so accurate
>raisin bran looks at the night king and says "not today"
>fucks off to live in a ravens body while his crippled one gets stabbed
I was really hoping they kept doing "last minute hero saves" over and over in the episode to make it surprising when Bran didn't get saved just like his father didn't get saved. Nope.
My sister and I both thought he was going to kneel before Bran and hand him his sword or something. Bran does not feel like a good guy anymore and I refuse to believe there isn't more to this.
Their shit was dragon glass
well you're wrong, the dumb part is wights can only be killed by fire so there's no reason to fight them with anything but dragon fire anyways
Based, as long as Bronn does the head nod Olly does.
Convenience m8, season 7 and 8 are the most convenient writing ever.
This show had so much potential... maybe even D&D have no liberty dealing with it, HBO executives must have taken over and are milking the cash cow
What a shitshow, I watch it as a comedy now
>"I want my fuckin castle you cunts"
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?
>Big battles get really boring
>we knew for three years that it was going to be arya
>It didn't seem right for it to be Jon
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DO THEY HATE THIS FUCKING SHOW? WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING STUPID. NO WONDER GRRM DIPPED THE FUCK OUT 4 YEARS AGO.
Pour oil onto them while they climb the walls and set them on fire.
thanks user, my headcanon is now that this is what actually happened. you made it enjoyable for me
wights die from being stabbed by dragon glass too, they just don't explode into ice dust. Jon demonstrated this to Cersei and everyone last season. the most logical thing would have been setting the entire field on fire with the dragons while everyone sat back firing dragon glass arrows. instead, they waste it to forge a bunch of blunt weapons
Spears made out of valyrian steel, do you even watch the show?
Because fandom = ratings. That's why. You don't kill off your cashcows until the final episode.
Even the washington post disliked it
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>These visual missteps alone might have merely diminished a great episode, had this been one. But if “A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms” prepared us for the possibility that a significant number of important characters would meet their doom during this critical battle, the show seemed to lose its nerve and turn to the sorts of traditional fantasy tropes it had once upended.
>Once, we knew that Arya’s training in the House of Black and White and the murderous road she’d walked to get there had morally deformed her. Now, her skills with Valyrian steel and dragonglass (not to mention her foresight in weapons design) have turned her into a mere badass. How did we get to a place where Arya’s assassination of the Night King felt like an intellectual letdown, where a big episode of “Game of Thrones” felt like badly shot and edited fan service rather than a genuine revelation?
>But “The Long Night” was a powerful, late-in-the-game example of how its showrunners and directors have too often mistaken the show’s weakest qualities for its strongest. But if you asked me whether “Game of Thrones” is a genuinely great show, after “The Long Night,” I’d have to answer: not today.
She fucking teleported behind him. What a bunch of bullshit. Dude had hundreds of zombies and his generals right beside him, and no one noticed her? And where did she fucking jump from they were in the middle of an open space, the castle walls were too far away. Come on.
the wights have might as well be killed by bronze. Others die from Steel but can survive fire, wights can die by fire but will always be re-animated if the Night's King can revive them
>why
Because he's not that smart.
The children of the forest gave some rando human that pissed them off super freeze powers and the ability to raise the dead, but he's just some rando guy. He's not a mastermind, he's not well-versed in subterfuge or assassination or whatever. He's meant to be a blunt instrument and the way he operated in the past got the job done.
But get close enough to him with a proper weapon and he's toast and they managed to draw him out to do just that.
I might have bought it if Bran did some cool warging shit to briefly incapacitate the Night's King and give Arya an opening.
psssht nothing personal men
The battle was some Peter Jackson shit. Why on earth are they charging forward with cavalry in a fucking defensive battle.
stick to comics, brainlet
>Jon Snow's literal destiny built up from minute one of the story stolen last minute and given to Arya for no reason
It really is awful. I don't even dislike Arya, it's just blatantly disregarding your own lore and character arcs.
>Bran did abso-fucking-lutely nothing except reveal that Jon is banging his aunt
WHERE THE FUCK IS POD?
All of the spear heads were dragon glass, brainlet. A phalanx at the castle gate would have worked perfectly.
ouch desu
Because fire swords look cool and watching them burn out 50 seconds later = double cool. Triple cool equates to a sizable chunk of dothraki and the rest of the QUEEN'S army mysteriously surviving during the next EP.
Surprisingly based
Are you people fucking retarded? how did you not get this? Bran was controlling the knight king.
not even defending this shit, but if you thought Jon Snow or some typical muh hero character is going to kill some great villain, you haven't been paying attention
They completely skipped over the whole part about the NK being a Stark.
he was getting gangbanged against the wall along with Jaime and Brienne but I think they lived
This, why even resurrect Jon?
>he was going to kneel before Bran
It would have been absolutely amazing. It would redeem 80 percent of shit that the show had done.
But yep. It just nullified 9 years of buildup.
Fuck you D&D. Who fucking cares who gets the throne? Existensial threat is dealt with, they are gonna be fine now. Who fucking cares about a fucking Cersei when you have fucking dragons?
you mean the direct staredown for 20 seconds between Bran and the NK? yeah somehow retards are missing this
I honestly thought D&D were going to save the entire series by having the Night King kill Bran and then fucking off, leaving the behind everyone else because he gives zero fucks about the 5 survivors. Then Cersei would get fucking trashed by the undead in a battle and then her lords could revolt against her and straight join the North and Dany to save humanity from absolute destruction. Would have been a great opportunity for Dany to learn what ruling actually means and that the price of the iron throne is fire and blood (TM).
that really would have been something if good guy bran's eyes rolled back and then turned blue. why is Yea Forums fan fiction better than 100 million dollar HBO fan fiction?
the crows as well.
bran going into warg state and the next scene is the knight king in the sky.
Brutal
Oh shit... it was all part of his autistic plan??!?!?!
That's based
here's a better ending:
>Night king approaches Bran
>Theon is already dead, it seems that there is no escape for the crippled boy
>Bran stands up
>He takes off his jacked revealing his 300lb ripped body
>He roundhouse kick the Night cuck into oblivion
>the other white walkers cower in fear and agree to rebuild the wall, they will pay for the damage
>thus the legend of Bran the BodyBuilder is written
meanwhile in the south
>Cersei killed herself trying to fit an elephant dildo up her ass
>Euron is fully king now
>the (((iron bankers))) took all King's Landing money to banks in Braavos, they got away with it because of all the white walker turmoil
>king Euron starts coining fake gold coins to calm the plebs
>inflation makes all currency valueless
>in a desperate act Euron surrender King's Landing to the North, making the king in the North the true king of the seven kingdoms
>this makes the pleb hate Euron even more, and now he is pretty much the most hated king in history
>a charismatic young man named Adolf is rising trough the political ranks with his speeches about how the "iron bank" fucked King's Landing
>soon his followers overthrow king Euron and Adolf starts an ofensive taking land back from the North, land that was surrendered by king Euron during the Treaty of Winterfell
>with the backing of the "iron bank", Dorne, the North, the Reach and the Vale declare war on Adolf
>despite being in the right Adolf loses the war, Pyke, it's only real ally get nuked by two dragons
>after Adolf's death, the winners make a bunch of stuff about how he killed iron bankers in wildfire chambers
>decades later the Seven Kingdoms are now a hellhole full of degenerates and soibois overrun by Dothraki immigrants
No it wasn't.
You see it several times, it's metal.
Except the show hasn't been that kind of show for a while now, you can't jump between gritty storytelling and epic all the time and not expect the audience to feel cheated.
U AVE KILLED BROWN EYES, GREEN EYES, NOW U WILL KILL BLU EYE
>WAT DOES TEH LORD OF DETH SAY
>NOT TODAY
They wanted to get rid of them, this was on purpose.
The real plothole is how is anyone going to reasonably the defend how shit their tactics were? BoB can be explained with Jon losing his cool and his generals having to improvise on the spot and abandon their plan, but for the battle tactics employed in this battle to be so retarded with all these seasoned generals planning and Jon who knows how the Wights fight how does it make any sense?
I was going to ask for what purpose, but this show doesn't need to give reasons for anything.
wtf I like washington post now?
they’re retarded and it’s mid evil times they’re not smart
It's just the truth.
>no prophecy
>Bran is best friends with Theon near the tree
>Does nothing else but be a retarded mute
Seriously, why did he even warg into birds?
Why tell Sam to reveal Jon's true parentage?
Literally who cares?
>Arya kills the Night King because his White Walker Lords are useless.
You insipid cretins keep saying this but it fully is and has been that kind of show since Jon was revived from the fucking dead. Shut up retard. Crawl in a hole and die
bran was controlling the knight king.
arya took a wraith's face and thats how she got to the knight king.
Why did it all have to happen this way?
we will see bran's flashbacks next episode, which will clear everything up.
The episode makes sense.
I mean, really, it does. Season 1 started with Ned being "the main character". Everyone though he was gonna be the main character, gonna solve all the problems. And what happens to him? He dies. He's not the main character. He never was. That's not that kind of story.
Cut to season 8. Night King. The main villain. The big bad guy. The Great War. Well guess what? He's not a main villain. He dies. Cersei is the main villain and Euron with his big cock.
This show has REPEATEDLY trying to tell everyone it's not LOTR. This whole show, the whole theme is subverting your expectations.
"There's only one war that matters. The Great War, and it is here"
Said by a guy that was supposed to be the chosen one. Azor Ahai. But there was never Azor Ahai. He was never the chosen one, and there was never the great war. Just a big ass battle between Cersei that is just gonna sort of happen now.
The show begun with subversion and ended with subversion. That's what they always wanted to do. The only people that are fools are people who got baited.
There's a reason why David Benioff and DB Weiss were hired by Kathleen Kennedy. They operate on the same kind of thinking Rian Johnson does. Having your expectation subverted. Snoke never mattered just like Night Knight never mattered.
And now it begins. No, now it ends.
Speaking of the other Night Lords, why did they all die too? I was under the impression that they were just like the Night King, not thralls of his like the corpse puppet horde.
The entire story is based around a balance of fantasy and reality. The two elements interact and often conflict with one another. Those characters who have fantasy arcs often find themselves getting fucked over by the nature of reality. Basically Thoros Myr, Jon Snow Dany and others have all been given fantasy hero narratives. Their problems arise when they try to fulfill their fantasy novel story arcs through the tools given to them in a reality based story. It's why the Nights Watch gets eternally cucked of soldiers, Dany gets trapped in Iraq with her dragons, and Thoros Myr is literal who bandit. This battle is 100% fantasy, and would make excellent catharsis for Jon Snow or anyone with a fantasy narrative to win.
it also made 95% of season 7 pointless since they barely used the dragons, the dothraki were wiped out in seconds, and the unsullied mostly acted as road blocks while everyone else retreats into Winterfell where they should have been the entire time. Dany's army really served no purpose.
stop posting this faggot copypasta
He was the very first one so every WW is traced back to him, if you kill him everything snowballs and ends.
unironically
Also, why did he need to do that if he knew Arya was going to kill the Night King?
This show is fucked off.
Maybe this is George Martin's fuck you to the fans of the show, presuming this is the outline he gave to the retarded show runners
>not today *wink wink wink*
bravo user, bravo
the fuck was bran even doing the whole time he was out warging?
did they show it and i just missed it or something?
Why the fuck do you care?
The show is dead, so all the characters die too.
He can’t see the future, just everything that is happening or did happen.
no they didn't show it. He just comes back right when the NK is getting ready to come in to the courtyard.
gr8 b8 m8, i r8 8/8 no h8
I can't imagine people still being invested in this horseshit show. There wasn't much dialogue in this episode and what there was literally was just repeating lines from earlier, more memorable episodes
>Not today
oh go fuck yourself
One dragon. And they can easily kill it with the giant crossbows.
they immediately showed that he warged into the crows. As soon as his eyes flashed over so did the crows flying through fire and shit and going around the night king. So many people asking about what he was doing I can't imagine that you even watched the episode.
you're no longer invested in it? oh fug
Yeah but what did the crows do? Bran learned nothing he couldn't have seen with his regular autistic eyes.
grrm noped out because he got into an argument with these chucklefucks over his own source material, they kept disagreeing with him citing their own fan fiction as fact "because it works better this way" and he just gave them one good, long look and said "Yeah your way is better" then washed his hands of that shit and is living comfortably now while retards smear themselves in shit with his work.
Seeing as the final books aren't complete, HBO had to come up with their own plot.
Want the real story? go get the books.
To call it fanfiction would be an insult to fanfiction, because even fanfic writers wouldn't have Arya, of all fucking people, teleport behind the Night King and take him out.
>you realize that Walter Frey been the real hero all along
Nope it was just metal. Not sure why even agree to let them fight when they didn't know they even were going to have fire embued. It is like Dany/Advisors/Everyone is just stupid?
Why?
Fanfiction is less fanfiction than D&D
That's not a joke. That's not Yea Forums cynicism overload. That's not an exaggeration. They CANNOT fucking write
> As soon as his eyes flashed over so did the crows flying through fire and shit and going around the night king
We get it, brainlet but what the point?
Ultimately whatever he did had no impact toward the end. It might have but they didn't even show.
What actually happened w D&D didn't even try to write good lines anymore and put Brann in his autistic mode so he wouldn't say a thing.
It would have been more thematic to have Jon do the White walkers and friends and Arya and Co do Cersei in. It would make much more sense. With Arya's powers she can clearly off anyone she feels like night king, cersei, ...
Why did the Lord of Light revive Jon in the first place again?
apparently to make you forget the entire rest of his story they've been talking about all season long but most especially the last two two episodes
turn your fucking brain on
yes because that mattered at all when they decimated the lannister army. you stupid fucking sperg.
Yikes that sounds even more cringe worthy. Was that written by an eight grader?
>youtube.com
I'm kind of crushed that this scene is what got me into watching this series, and this episode 4heads its way around it.
Thoughts?
At least let Jon kill Viserion himself, even if it would not have mattered. Everybody has plot armor at this point, but Arya gets to be the cocky badass who never does anything wrong. Everybody but Arya's actions have consequences. She had a little training in Essos and now she is just a cocky super assassin.
Fuck! I thought Jaime killing the Night King would have been ridiculous, but I would have taken that over teleporting Arya doing it. The ending is going to be everybody dead but Davos and the three Stark kids.
Did the dragon that got swarmed by wights die?
This is exactly my problem. I'm shocked somebody actually wrote this... now. I expect that by the end of this year, people aren't going to look back fondly at GOT's last couple of seasons. It's been acts of convenience that don't match a show that literally killed a dude that was on the shitter.
right? I only care about the dragons too, user.
they didnt have enough food, this was troop management
cause dothraki are fucking retard land sea niggers and all they do is charge with horses
everybodies stab proof
how many times was sam getting stabbed 20 times in the chest to get saved
Bran literally did nothing? What's the point in demonstrating that his time travel powers can affect the present if he literally never uses his powers
That was an ambush, not a full blown battle on an open field. You use different tactics depending on the situation, sperg.
Drogon was the one who was swarmed and he was nestled up to her at the end of the episode with Jorah. Rhaegal was the other living one, and he survived. They showed him in the trailer for next weeks episode.
>Why did the Lord of Light revive Jon in the first place again?
If you haven't figured out that the only reason he was brought back was to knock up his aunt, so she can give birth to "the prince who was promised" or whatever the fuck you wanna call him yet, you're clearly slow and fucking retarded.
I think it boils down to a fundamental misuse of twists. GoT got popular based on twists that ran against the grain of traditional fantasy - Ned's death, Red Wedding, Jon's death. But in each case you can look back and trace a direct logical progression to how such events came about.
Benioff and Weiss know they need the ebin twists to keep the average normie watching, but lack the ability to create foreshadowing and buildup to them. Instead you end up with idiocy like the "blue eyes" thing.
thank goodness, I was feeling genuine panic over that bitch letting her dragon get swarmed.
Waiting patiently for Clegainebowl to be initiated by the Mountain killing Arya
>sperging about 'muh battle tactics' like a fucking sperg.
Have sex you stupid idiot bitch faggot.
They need her for the spin-off series.
That would've been better. What a boring turn of events they ended up with.
theory: the plot in the tv show is so fucking bad because GRRM plans to finish the books differently
>finish the books
I know
Struck a nerve did we? I think it's best you go back.
upvote
spoonfeed me the deal on bran, i fucking despise this shiteating kid, he literally does NOTHING EVER through the WHOLE series, then what feels like his ultimate moment comes and what does he do? nothing, he sits there and makes a bunch of people die for him, then gets saved. what the fuck did he do? what was the point of his character? i don't understand.
How come barely anyone died?
Pics of your sister, please.
>implying that Arya won't help The Hound fight The Mountain
>implying that it won't be a mutual Clegane kill
>implying that Arya won't walk away alive and healthy
>watching with sister
OwO did you spooned her under a blanket on the couch? Do you guys watch the siblings sex scenes together and look at each other awkwardly?
The only person that was stupid was Dany. The plan laid out in the last episode was that all of the fighting force was a diversion to draw the NK to Bran. Dany sees her army getting slaughtered and decides to abandon the plan to go help them and gets caught in the NK's trap instead.
never change guys
If the plan included the Dothraki riding out in total darkness to fight the undead, then the plan was stupid from the get-go. Either that or they completely lack discipline and can't wait.
No he fucking wasn't. The NK literally tried to kill Jon several times. What's the purpose of telling Sam to tell Jon his destiny if Bran is just gonna kill Jon for the lolz?
>Inb4 subverting expectations.
this is so fucking gay, far more cheesy and over the top and less naturalistic (e.g. stupid fucking flashback cutaways and voice overs with dialogue from previous seasons) than what D&D get away with
No she didn't take a wraiths face. She ran right past the white walkers which were standing near the entrance to the courtyard. Get HBO and then watch the reruns so you can see how wrong you are about all of this.
I tought NK was going to kill Bran and he would stay inside the crows.
Arya killing him doesn't really bother me, since the red witch scene with Arya was already foreshadowing it. Jon still have importante shit to do, he will reveal himself as Azor amidst the salt and smoke on black water when they storm the red keep again
Who fucking cares? My wife is dead. I hate this shit show.
>didn't have Bran shoot the Night King with a crossbow that uses dragonglass bolts
>instead of taking the opportunity to empower cripples they make him a useless gimp who just watches shit happen (just as he watched and probably fapped to Sansa's deflowering)
He gave no outline to them about this, only how it actually ends. D&D are the ones who wrote this outline and handed it to their director of choice.
how do you take the face of something that explodes when you poke it?
>arya runs past at the speed of sound with ice cubes glued to her face
>the white walkers catch sight of her afterimage but realize it is just one of them
>must be the wind
The night king is fast but no one said he has the fastest movements out of anyone. Arya canonically should be ultra fast and stealthy. That's literally what her character is.
>Night King comes at Bran
>Bran just sits there autistically
>NK get his sword and ready to strike
>*KAPOOF!*
>Bran had a crossbow ready under his furr with one glass arow
>NK is kill
>Bran gets up and walk away
To be honest I thought NK was gojng to stab Bran and he would turn into a cloud of ravens and fly away, or a cloud of ravens would come down and take Bran away somehow, or anything related to Bran warging crows scene or his crow powers or anything actually related to him being three eyed raven and its importance. Instead that happened, the fucking teleport behind you, I swear to god it was so disappointing, like my shoulders dropped and I let out a loud sigh, completely automatically, like being really really disappointed, I wasn't even mad, but Aryia flying out of nowhere just too much. I didn't expect anything from this season because of previous ones, and I still got disappointed, bravo I guess.
On the lead up to the end I half expected Arya to have somehow switched with Bran in the chair. Holy shit.
well now i can have two endings that im eternally mad at, mass effect 3 and this awful dogshit
What was the point of the ravens?
to troll you
scene transition
I would have liked if it was arya pretending to be bran.
I don't know mayne. In the books it's pretty clear he ain't (physically) coming back from Bloodraven's cave. I would say they have something more in store for him but knowing these two hacks they'll have him sit around and say "wise" things for the next few episodes.
the worst part was the trope that if you kill the main boss every other henchmen dies too
bullshit, what about the night princes?
With Jon Arryn being Gavrillo Princip, right?
Then please explain why she didn't use this super human speed to ran away from the wights after escaping the library? This is her home. She knows every nook and cranny so she should have had no trouble running through it at max speed. And it wouldn't have mattered how big the crowd must since she could move faster than even the White Walkers.
the only thing that would make it more contrived is if after the night king died we saw flowers start to bloom and birds chirping.
>"spring is coming"
arya whispers
just occurred to me the mormonts are fucked
>jeor mormont dead
>maege mormont (head of the house in the earlier seasons before lyanna)
>jorah mormont dead
>lyanna mormont dead
They made it look like everyone was going to die and the throne was for nobody but now pull this off. I dont get it.
Every house that answered the Stark's call is fucked. The only people left alive are the essential NPCs.
What the fuck is the point of the vision? Dany turns from the throne and towards the "true" threat, but that threat is gone. The throne is the only thing left now and King's Landing hasn't even experienced real winter yet.
Arya killing the NK is the most retarded thing ever, but I still need to watch it to see what happens to Jaime. At least I'm not paying for HBO.
The music in that scene sped up is White Walker music too.
I already had my Skyrim theme song activated when Jon faced the dragon.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOO oOOoOoooooooOoOOOOOOOOOO
>and then he dies like a fucking robot from Star Wars
This was always my favorite. Fuck D&D
Don't be a tease
Winter is not over user
Running at max speed inside a structure filled with furniture is retarded and non practical, also some anons pointed out already thah NK wargs inside the Wights, he was controlling the one surrounding Bran, commanded to standby, that's why only one of the generals saw Arya and also why she could run past them.p
What I want to know is from where is dany going going to pull more troops. Everyone but a handful survived.
I love how says only cunts name their swords.
It's probably going to be revealed that more than we thought survived and their army is now just as big as the Golden Company, making the last battle "equal" or some shit to make it more suspenseful.
Nigger he is thousands of years old and has fought against men way before any of these people existed
My friend watches this show with his sister. I never thought about this.
>I never had a father so I hate heroic characters
>MASCULINITY IS A PRISON
>The real hero here was Bran and his autism powers
Melisandre was by far, he was good though
Lighting an army of swords with magic, lighting the trench with magic, guiding Arya for the most important moment of the series etc.
Stannis the Mannis was there in spirit
Jesus Christ, I have no words as to how retarded all of this was strategically and tactically.
>Cavalry charge from a defensive position.
>CATAPULTS USED ONCE AND ARE OUTSIDE OF CASTLE WALLS
>No flanking is even attempted
>Trench defenses behind army instead of being the first line of defense followed by spear men.
>No one even thinks about taking out white walkers with some small force to thin the number of undead.
What the hell was this fever dream? Is this actually real?
>Then please explain why she didn't use this super human speed to ran away from the wights after escaping the library
She hit her head against the wall after her lance fight scene and was visibly disoriented until she met Melisandre
>lol learning battle strategies is for fags
>I impress women with my knowledge of estrogen filled IPAs
>wights line up on other side of pitiful trench
>no arrows show at them
... why is that stupid
niceeeeee
what is worse they actually have a person hired who is supposed to help them with planning realistic battle strategies.
well written version
>actual time to construct trenches, fire defenses, huge line of siege weapons
>the horses charge in from the flank
>entire strategy is to take out white walkers
etc
but instead we have WWZ Visual Effects so the undead army is more like a wave of bodies than an actual army. So the entire fight is some garbage shit.
It was still a 9/10 episode for normies though, but was mostly uninteresting from a non low IQ persepctive
Based af
>implying Arya won't save Sandor again
They're going to start keeping score like Gimli and Legolas. So far its 1 for 1, but Sandor refuses to aknowledge the zombie shooting and only reluctantly agrees to a tie for her BTFOing the entire Night King's army
Make it at day
Use the mongolians as flankers who harry and try to get access to white walkers
have huge knight charge to get at ww
have knights/main characters fighting and dying while killing WW
killing WW make part of army go full-dead
end up killing most of the main WW
Then the knight king should show up with the dragon and kill like half of the main characters left alive, danny/jon join battle at this point with their own dragons
End up wounding the knight king dragon and chase him back to some waterfall location
Jon jumps off the dragon and epic duel commences where they both die.
That's how it should have ended.
Last 10 minutes should have been Jon and night king fighting at the waterfall location.
actual based journalism
fucking fanservice pandering episode.
Didn't fly so good
A well written version would have had Melly Sanders and the cavalry hiding in the dark off screen and you're only alerted to their presence when she lights up their swords.
fatman fucked off because he knows fully well that these hacks will destroy the story, completely
then fatman can release the new book with comfort and all the fans will praise it like the second coming of Jesus comparing to this shit show
No it wont because if they kill Varys I will murder the showrunners
>Did not care about the show
>People telling me I look like Jon Snow and those cool ice zombies made me start watching around S03
>Watching this episode with my family including my sister
> We call my sister Dany for short
>She relates herself to the dragon bitch
>My mom acknowledges it and say all we had left is having incestous sex
>Mfw
Fuck this show.
How were they even planning to win?
If it wasn't for Arya learning how to shadowmeld and shadowstep into the NK from 60 feet away when he was surrounding by a ring of wights and white walkers, everything would have been lost.
Everyone knows killing white walkers is how to thin the number of wights, and yet NO ONE had any plans for taking some of them out?
How is writing this poor even possible?
yeah I'm thinking winterfell itself shoulda been the diversion.
With the mounted troops and 2 dragons being offscreen and ready to flank to get at WW. Jon could remember them observing the battle from above. Entire strategy could have been to hold off at winterfall long enough to spot and flank the WW. With milesendra magic used and Bran warg powers to kill all the WW scouts.
Whatever works.
>Implying he will release a new book
The white walkers can make giant chains but not body armor against valyrian steel and dragon glass?
There are good fantasy authors that finish series
A song of ice and fire is good for the first half only. GRRM is too busy being a fat slob to write.
I laughed.
>armor
>game of thrones
whats the point when a butter knife goes through both sides of a steel plate
any recommendation for fantasy books user?
Why would such a serious injury heal so quickly? Do football players recover from a concussion during the game and get right back on the field minutes later?
AZOR BRONN
Yeah, Troy Aikman won a championship for the Cowboys that way and says he doesn't remember the game.
When did kino become a term?
I'm German and kino means theater in German.
Also, what does YA mean?
did brienne actually die?
nah
What are you waiting for?
What was he doing?
No she's alive next to Jaime at the end
Since the lord of fire subverted my expectations bring back Stannis in the end and im alright
their reasoning for arya doing it is as simple as "we thought it would be cool and hope viewers forgot about her running out of the castle. lol"
You can tell you're young and still growing up by the users of the word "rando"
As the other person said, keep your undeveloped ideas elsewhere. We already have enough normies thinking they're smart.
Post nudes of sister thks
You're fucking retarded.
Eddard wasn't killed just for it to be "subversive". He was a fish out of water, the honorable relic dropped into THE nest of backstabbing-filled political intrigue.
Much of the story takes place during an Interregnum with no solid leadership for the kingdom.
Towards the end, this story begins to unfold into a new Age of Heroes, with characters such as Jon Snow able to take the lead as the intrigue actors who rely on the contraptions of a society (built on lies) lose their ground.
wow GRRM leaving directly coincides with the quality drop in the show, then suddenly now they don't have source material at all its complete shit
why can't we have nice things
The rape, Sansa.
God. Why are boomers so degenerate?
young adult
Brian Sanderson
Brent Weeks
Steven Erikson
The Malazan series is the greatest fantasy book series of all time but requires 115+ IQ to like.
TV shows and series are for brainlets for the most part.
Keeping the dragons offscreen to go after the Walkers while Bran was acting as bait for the rest of the undead army WAS the original plan. Dany went off-script, flew out too early, and started attacking Wights like a fucking idiot, forcing Jon and the other dragon to follow suit. Had they stuck to the plan, the WWs would have died an taken out a sizeable chunk of the Wights with them, leaving just the Night King and his dragon to deal with.
>>doesn't because plot hole #1567
this mad incel brainlet doesnt know what a plot hole is
>The Malazan series is the greatest fantasy book series of all time but requires 115+ IQ to like.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>You can tell you're young and still growing up by the users of the word "rando"
There's something to what you say. It's easy to pick up on when someone's a developmentally retarded adult by the way they toss around words like "based"/"redpilled"/"unironically"/"/ourguy/" and suchlike.
they didn't have any white walkers fight either, only wights, then they all die along with NK if that's the end then they could have had Jorah, for example, die fighting one of them in a le epic reddit moment at the LEAST.
thanks for everything dabid
uh what have you read?
Because Yea Forums isn't run by kikes and feminists.
>attacks select word instead of argument
you can tell you're still young and still growing etc etc etc
I don't think you know what the fuck a plothole means.
Literally flying the night sky as a bird.
HBO is in the business of making gruel for the masses
GoT started off as a well-written fantasy series (till the last half of books). What The showrunners are doing now is equivalent to shitty fanfic pandering.
Keeping everyone alive, killing off only the easiest characters to remove, etc.
GUYS
What if all that happened this episode was just
Bran seeing into the future
during >I'm gonna go now
He then realizes that the Night King is an important part of the cycle and does an asspull time fuckery that saves both everyone at Winterfell and the Night King
this is what would have happened in the world where d&d were actual writers and not hacks trying to get their checks and get out of dodge
here's a plothole, why didn't jon's dragon rhaegal just light the trenches when dany couldn't see shit?
Also did anyone else laugh hard when jon and the NKs dragon were fighting, and they kept cutting to the NK struggling to aim his little ice spear lol
>be ultimate badass
>a girl jumps on your from behind
>die
Okay then.
Scenes like these were absolutely kino
>Flintlock rifles firing more than once per loading
I'm beyond triggered by this shit.
>How were they even planning to win?
They were planning to wait until The Night King came so Jon and Dany could jump him. I just don't know if the Dothraki's retarded charge was a part of the plan or if Melisandre made them cocky by lighting their swords up.
The Night King should have just stayed back, but he decided to fight Rhaegal and Drogon 2v1 for no reason. He could have still won had he just waited with his lieutenants and let the wights kill everybody, but he decided to go directly for Bran and kill him personally.
Most of the time, the White Walkers DO just sit in the background and wait, but they did take an active role in Hardhome and Home. The problem I have is that this time, they know the living have weapons that can kill them, so why not just wait it out?
he can't see into the future
put in a little bit where Jaime is reeling on the ground disoriented and he has a quick flashback/voices in his head shit before standing back up and 1v1ing the night king would have been fucking sick
He is just a lich king. He is not an omnipotent, invincible God
he can't? why not? he might've leveled-up or something.. and being near the weirwood gives him a +1 to future sight
An imp looking dissapointed at us
it's not about subverting destiny, nor do I think Jon should have killed the NK, but they really should've had a solo sword. Not because it would be cool, but because the shows imagery has hinted at something like that for so long - when Jon is leaving the North by boat and the NK stretches his arms at him. It should've happened, it would've made the chaotic quick cut action better too by slowing it down for something more initimate and that requires actual coreography.
Except the shit regarding Arya is so fucking obvious.
He caught her when she had the drop on him so how did he not figure out that Arya was going to do literally the only thing she could attempt?
it's told to him by the original three eyed raven that he can't see the future only the past. he's supposed to be a collection of all memories or some shit.
Looks like 2 here
The other dragon didn't die, they would have made it a bigger deal if it did. Drogon caught stabbed like a thousand times and survived.
I dont get it, was killing Bran their only objecitve? Why?
Why didnt they send Bran over sea where zombies could not get him?
All this seems kinda stupid to me.
shit like that happens all the time in sports you fucking nerd. go watch a boxing match, people come back from getting fucking flattened
>I dont get it, was killing Bran their only objecitve? Why?
The Night King wanted to wipe out all human beings and the memory of humanity. Flying Bran to Essos would not have stopped the White Walkers from trying to kill everybody at Winterfell.
>Walter
Arya is more than a child now. She is blessed by a god and she proved on many occasions than she is powerful.
Snow falling on the throne probably means Jon is going to take it instead of her.
We've already seen how white walkers respond to valarian steel. It doesn't work the same way humans do when they get random cuts or decapitations. It looks like any cut from a valarian steel blade simply shatters them.
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit.
Jon is not even Azor
Fucking Dany is you retards
Born amidst salt and smoke: check
Reviving Dragon's from stone: check
All she has left is to kill Jon, with a a sword through his (foreshadowing) already stabbed heart. He was brought back for that prupose.
Also there is no mention of Azor killing the NK, just ending the darkness that fell on the world, the darkness insides all men hearts. That's stabbing hearts (foreshadowing) like the NK's and Jon is so important
what if they kept almost all of them alive because the plan is to do a sequel in a couple of years
The whole arc is rebuilding the wall which will be the last action of the series.
Cersei will win, seems fairly logical her brutal tactics will win out.
Wouldn't even piss me off, good for her. Dirty cow.
Arya is going to help kill the Mountain, too. What the fuck did we do to deserve this horrible season focused on Quasimoto saving the world?
You guys don't understand, this was all Sansa's ploy to get Dany's army to all die first. Dothraki all got murdered, unsullied all foddered, now she has nothing to threaten the north with. Just like when she had the northerners die only to be saved by the (then loyal to her) knights of the veil, now she has the immigrants die while most of the loyal to her northerners are still alive to beat the dragon queen into submission, since she has no more army. Truly, she has become the player of players.
I think that there's going to be more to this. Obviously Bran didn't warg into the crow's and fuck off for most of the episode for no fucking reason, just as littlefinger didn't give an iron coin to that girl for no reason.
Also what was up with Milesendra saying valar morghulis to grey worm? (I realize this could just be because he's from back out that way, but for some reason it seemed like there was something more to this)
I'd be amazed if they do this next episode
At least lyanna got fucking destroyed by that giant
Holy shit, that would have made so much more sense while maintaining the general direction they wanted to go.
My main issue with Arya killing him is just how she was able to sneak up behind him while he was surrounded by white walkers.
>Cersei will win
I hope not. The south is boring. They are just humans with one single super zombie. The north has dragons, witches, prophets, at least 2 gods.
>iron bankers in wildfire chambers
You know what the worst part is? Normies are going to be jerking off tomorrow at work about how this was the greatest episode in television history.
>All she has left is to kill Jon, with a a sword through his (foreshadowing) already stabbed heart. He was brought back for that prupose.
For what logical reason would Daenerys want to kill Jon at this point? For a throne that he doesn't even want? Why alienate a large portion of her constituents by killing Jon instead of just marrying him and splitting the power with him? She also saved him in this episode, too.
you shut up
>people getting mad over a fanfiction
Why?
>Want the real story? go get the books.
It's been 8 years user and he still has at least 3 books to go
mfw No sickly Roosevelt/Bran comparison
Autistically playing with his ravens while everyone was getting BTFO
We forget that he already lost once to men. He's not infallible. This battle was the first he really got involved in. It's obvious he stayed in the rear of his army because he isn't invincible.
Do you fucking people even watch the show? I don't understand this stop saying this shit. She explicitly needs to KILL AND SKIN a person to wear their face. Do you not remember the entire fucking season where she was in a cult where they cut people's faces off and added them to the wall of faces?
Stop saying "duh she should have taken the face of a white walker" they fucking EXPLODE INTO ICE when you poke them with dragonglass she isn't getting one of their faces off.
Fuck you guys are retarded.
What happened to him bros? it's the only character I'm worried about
>Want the real story? go get the books.
I would if I could.
im with you for the top sentence.
but as for melly greeting greyworm i think it was about him having to sacrifice his soldiers (she probably saw it in a vision)
>The whole arc is rebuilding the wall which will be the last action of the series.
All the wildlings who are still alive are on the Westeros side of the wall and the White Walkers are all dead and gone, so why rebuild the wall? There's nothing left to keep out.
>Walter
Wrong show faggot
i had such low expectations and yet i'm still disappointed
>but if you thought Jon Snow or some typical muh hero character is going to kill some great villain, you haven't been paying attention
>gets killed by arya
nigga
hes in the trailer for the next episode. pretty annoying how they randomly show him in a few shots then never again.
It's already established that Dany is not logical person and have fucked up shit because of wimmin logic, like the whole blood magic on Drogo, sand with her armies decimated Sansa can start plotting against her, leading to Jon dividing loyalties and conflict.
>Walter
So the spoilers/leaks kept mentioning Tyrion gets executed for being treasonous to Daenerys I literally can't think of anything he did being treasonous besides saying he'd love to slam Sansa's cheeks over Danny's
Yeah the most important battle of the show seems ridiculously asspulled.
It seems like they didn't really even think things through. Just slapped shit together.
I mean why even make your stand against the dead at Winterfell? You're in the middle of a tundra where the dead have a gigantic advantage over your human troops and there's no advantage in terms of terrain. Winterfell has fucking plains on all sides.
They could have crossed the sea and fortified at Meereen or taken advantage of the Vale's location.
Then the issue with keeping the women and children in the crypts when your opponent can raise the dead. I mean i forgot about that issue but when it occurred, I was thinking like how the fuck could they overlook that part?
I'm a girl you freaks.
Did these two actually accomplish anything? Their entire arcs revolved around the night knight threat.
Know what would have been badass?
If Bran had equipped his swarm of crows with dragonglass beaks and dragonglass claws, and then when everyone thinks it's over, and bran is about to be struck down, a swarm of crows comes and fucks the night king up.
That would have been great.
>We're gonna build the wall and the White Walkers will pay for it
dare i say, bravo
tits or gtfo
>Jon and Dany on Dragons spot the wights at the tree line with no wight walkers in sight
>proceed to running a airstike elsewhere
Why?
I would have maybe been okay with Arya killing the Night King if it had happened during a long 1v1 sword fight with Jon or something. At least let him fucking do something besides walk to Bran the entire episode. The decisions that went into this episode are fucking mind boggling. Don't forget the totally worthwhile 5 minute scene of Arya recreating the kitchen scene from Jurassic Park.
I thought even being touched by a white walker fucking killed you. So how did she survive being grabbed by the throat? Fuck this show.
nope
they will be involved with the WW in the books if its ever made and will have more to do with the secrets the ancient starks have
what the fuck was bran up to the whole time people were defending him?
the halo 3 toy trailer was good though
Fuck. Same Here.
I was sure NK was going to kneel over Bran
D & D should have just let fatty pen the last seasons, or at least the broad outline, including all the twists and turns, and actually listened to him instead of thinking they're the ones who "made" GoT.
if only they had seven good men
rewatching his sisters' sex tapes
its ash not snow
ya that was kino
Except "jaqen" had arya's face so the show completely shit all over that prerequisite
>Walter
That'd be great. Proving once and for all that when two characters have their stats maxed, STR > DEX
wasn't she just tripping balls because of the poison or whatever?
"arya" is jaqen waering arya's face
Those days of shock are looooong gone
Plot armor
>the army of the dead is coming, the whole world needs to band together to stop it
>doesn't even make it past winterfell
>Autismo not the good guy
Get out.
I was thinking about that too. Silly for him to sit there on his dragon instead of lighting that line on fire.
Also Dany and her dragon getting burned...why would that matter. Aren't both immune to fire?
I personally thought Arya would end up taking out the commanding wights to save Bran.
With Dany and Jon taking the Night King's dragon out of the sky, eventually Jon besting him in sword combat.
That would have been more palatable imo. Somewhat expected but subversion for subversion sake leads to shit like this. I think the directors wanted to try to surprise everyone.
Do you have that much faith after how awful the braavos story arc was?
That was just a mindfuck scene immediately before she also goes blind for no explained reason. Jaqen I can only assume is a magical/god being, the faceless men in general are not on the same level. Arya even explains the process to Sansa last season as a threat after Sansa finds the bag of actual skinned faces. Though they also never explain how she imitates their voice or their fucking height/body shape but whatever I don't care about plot holes anymore there's too many.
>David! GRRM is still touring at restaurants and we need the scene, what do
>Call in: the writer
>Aging gen x'er walks in
>Dude why not have him be the head zombie so if they kill him all the other zombies die
>Writer's other suggestions are drowned out by sounds of raining dollars
>David he saved us 30 minutes of writing!
this show is basically a soap opera
it's shit, you know it's shit, but you accidentally watched too many episodes so now you want to know how the story ends
That's the part I least have issue with. It definitely appeared they had taken pretty much everyone out and their walkers had pretty much cleared the castle. It's reasonable to think they just needed to deliver the final blow.
...except for Dany and her Dragon still roaming around. You'd think he'd at least wait to know her dragon was taken out.
In the last book it's implied that he eats a bowl of howland reed and then never leaves the tree cave thing. I'm not sure he is supposed to be a good or a bad guy.
>It's already established that Dany is not logical person and have fucked up shit because of wimmin logic, like the whole blood magic on Drogo
So your only reason why you think Dany will try to kill Jon is because it doesn't make sense? Sorry, I'm going to need more than that to believe that Dany will try to kill the man she loves and risked her life to save TWICE.
>sand with her armies decimated Sansa can start plotting against her, leading to Jon dividing loyalties and conflict.
Sansa has absolutely no pitch whatsoever to convince Jon to turn on Dany. None. Dany went North to fight just like she said she would. Jon isn't going to turn on her just because Sansa doesn't like her.
Because despite it happening in slow mo, in real time, he'd have to instantly react and predict two surpising moves back to back.
I don't really have an issue with that part. No one said he can predict the future or is the fastest fighter in the land.
My main issue is how exactly Arya got past all the other wights.
did the dragon jon was riding die?
Yeah it would have probably been painful but for a creature that size it would be like being stung by a shit load of bees.
no.
both dragons are still alive in next weeks preview though probably decently fucked up
>My main issue is how exactly Arya got past all the other wights.
I think you're meant to assume she just ran past them, the visual cue is that white walker's hair moving with the wind before she leaps at the NK.
For whatever retarded reason they just didn't react to her. Lazy ass writing.
i only like jorah's and theon's last stand. everything else was meh. wish jorah had some final words
These fucking retards. The books are called "A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE", Jon is the promised child, the ICE AND FIRE due to his Stark and Targaryen connection. He has been at it with the White Walkers since the very beginning. Where was Arya? She only knew about the White Walkers from this season and she is gonna deliver the killing blow?
Totally subverted my expectations there.
based and redpilled
They have been laying on the foreshadowing VERY thick in the last 2 episodes. I'm not sure how this is confusing to anyone at this point. She snuck up on jon at the tree and he even says DUH HOW'D YOU SNEAK UP ON ME for the very slow members of the audience (i guess you're slower) which means she can be completely silent even walking on snow. If she can do this while running there was nothing to react to, by the time they saw her even at a normal humans speed she would be out of their reach. The night king catching her was stupider than her running past them, but she did kind of yell as she attacked.
Misspelled KWAAAN shitlord.
fuck off rian johnson
B A S E D
Actually not getting any last word/last words being "i'm hurt" is the least D&D thing that happened this season.
Motherfucker wasn't even thinking about dying until it was safe
Absolutely this. These fucking retarded showrunners don't get that these "twists" that GRRM made in the books each had a purpose. Ned's death started the War of the Five Kings, Robb's death ended the War, Tywin's death allowed the story to progress forward and Jon's "death" unburduned him from the Night's Watch and will allow him to focus the story on the Others.
These dumb showrunners simply forget that there is a meaning behind each and every impact in the books. They are not simply done for show or to say "GOTCHA". There was logic behind them, story progression, etc. From season 5 onwards they've done this kind of shit purely out of shock value. "HAHAHA, your Jon theory sucks ;)". They don't have any respect of the books or what they represent and the fat fuck should be fucking fuming at what these morons are doing.
Based
No I get all that. But in those scenes right before this, they invalidate that by having low level scrub wight walkers hear a drop of blood from her making it seem like just the low level wights have super sonic hearing and that Arya isn't as stealthy as we imagine her to be.
Since they've never shown her move that quick and silently before, it feels out of nowhere that she kills him the way she did.
A better way to foreshadow would be to have her quickly sneaking past wights without any of them noticing her and also have some scenes from earlier in the battle showing her super human like speed.
It just wasn't well executed.
post pic of sister
I'm not saying that you're wrong, because you're absolutely right, but how do you know this won't have a greater meaning behind it? We don't know what is going to happen following this episode.
That'd be a valid post if anyone of note actually died, D&D are basic bitch television writer's plugging in a bunch of YAAAAAS moments, GRRM doesn't care anymore about anything except dying with a full stomach.
The entire library scene was her MGS-ing around a ton of them, followed by her running away from them down the hallway. I think the scene was meant to show that the wights DID have supersonic hearing, and that she moved more quietly than a drop of blood landing on the floor.
Suddenly I'm glad I came to troll this thread, and I don't even need to do anything. Well played user.
I get you're a gurl and want JnD to be happy ever after, but this is a medieval show lassy, they don't love eachother more than their family convictions and wellfare. We are talking about a guy who lives by the law of the realm, same guy who just learned he is the rightful king, who did not want any of his position but got them anyway, he already left that wildling because of it. And a girl whose only goal is the throne and only agreed to helping Jon because she saw the dead herself and he gave her that wolf/dragon dildo.
Both Sansa and people of the North could peer preassure Jon into running for the chair, like they already did countless times.
Touche
> Then Cersei would get fucking trashed by the undead in a battle and then her lords could revolt against her and straight join the North and Dany to save humanity from absolute destruction
There would be no winning against the Night King's army. It's not a war that's winnable by normal means. The way he was defeated, although the execution was kind of retarded, was the only thing that could work. His army is unbeatable.
Maybe you missed it but so far no leaks has been accurate on what happened this episode so I don't see why you would keep talking about that one plot point
>even the liberal journalists blow the fuck out DnD for all their worth
on this day, I am happy, not because the episode was shit, but because normalfags will hate it and DnD will stop ruining intellecual properties
So who’s going to win the iron throne?1 dragon vs lannister army because the north is completely destroyed
>I get you're a gurl
False.
>and want JnD to be happy ever after
I want them to live up to their purpose as the union of ice and fire, which was robbed of them by Arya. In-fighting for the sake of it is lame.
>but this is a medieval show
So?
>they don't love eachother more than their family convictions and wellfare.
Jon bent the knee to Dany. Why would he take that back now? He didn't lie to Cersei so why would he lie to Dany, who saved his life multiple times?
>We are talking about a guy who lives by the law of the realm, same guy who just learned he is the rightful king, who did not want any of his position but got them anyway, he already left that wildling because of it. And a girl whose only goal is the throne and only agreed to helping Jon because she saw the dead herself and he gave her that wolf/dragon dildo.
So where is the conflict? Jon pledged himself to Dany because she pledged to fight for him. She fought for him and everybody else. Where is the conflict?
>Both Sansa and people of the North could peer preassure Jon into running for the chair, like they already did countless times.
Again, what is Sansa's pitch?
"Hey Jon, I know you love you love Dany and she is literally your aunt. I know she gave all of us a chance to be alive right now by coming up here and fighting for us. I know she risked her life to save you more than once. But PLEASE betray her because I don't like her! Pretty please, Jon, with a cherry on top! :)"
Come up with something better.
Two dragons. Rhaegal and Drogon (and Ghost while we are at it) survived. Watch the preview for the next episode.
Jaimie has visions and fight phantom Mad King, then he fights various other people he struggled with throughout the series until he gets to swordfight with Jamie in his prime.
As he stabs the phantom, the visions fade and reveal NK stabbed, and a fading out glow out of his hand.
Or something
They did try to go for the WW with the dragons but the storm fucked them