>Opening move is to send calvary on a full frontal charge into the darkness >No outriders to recon and probe >No Skirmishers to harass NK lines >No cavalry retreat when they start getting BTFO to regroup >Artillery deployed to the front of the lines >Troops deployed in front of the trench why >Archers stationed in loose formation to protect Bran in wooded forest with lots of cover for enemies. >Wall archers not firing in volleys >Large wood caltrops not placed outside the wall behind the trench >Inside the wall troops have no formation >Unsullied phalanx just stands still three formations deep with only the first row fighting and no replacements.
Well done Game of Thrones, the humans deserved to die.
The phalanx alone would have wiped out all the undead. It was literally designed to fight retards like that.
Levi Morgan
imagine being this much of a virgin incel nerd
Carson Garcia
tbf they showed the zombies zerg rushing and completely piling on top of the formations which I imagine would overwhelm them pretty quickly battle was complete shit and ridiculously anticlimactic though
Carson Long
>defending a fort >send pure cavalry rushing out into the unknown darkness away from your defensive position >have infantry formations standing IN FRONT of the pits and barricades >no archers being used whatsoever until the undead already BTFO'd everything else and are already climbing up the walls >no use of burning pitch despite this being their #1 weakness >choosing to fight in Winterfell at all in the first place despite it being the shittiest and least-fortified capital in the entire seven kingdoms and also the most northern one in the middle of the long winter
>TFW Alexander The Great would have killed the entire undead armt with 1000 hoplites
Landon Ross
No matter how well trained or organized a unit of pikemen is breaks in the line are inevitable.
On top of that the problem is that the dead are so numerous that even if the pikes could hold, eventually they would be flanked by more and more dead.
Ryder Gonzalez
I'll accept that they wouldve died quickly anyways, but at least don't let them have the dumbest battle plan ever. Not when fucking Jamie the greatest battle strategist was there.
Josiah Price
>breaks in the line are inevitable No, they aren't.
Henry Sanchez
Is there any doubt that GRRM had absolutely no imput into this season at all? Every episode so far feels like it was written from the ground up by a committee of basedboys and women who care about EPIC MOMENTS and main characters more than the grounded plausibility that made atoif good and popular.
Mason Morris
It feels like it was given the Avengers treatment.
Jason Adams
>literal tidal wave of unrelenting zombies >HURR LETS ALL JUST HOLD A PIKE FORMATION AND GET FLANKED
pathetic desu
James Miller
robb must have been winning battles by simply sitting on a hill with archers and cheval de frise lined around it
these people are fucking retarded
Colton Scott
We see in the scene where the zombie horde first contacts the infantry, it hits them like a wave of bricks and completely smashes through the line instantly. So if we accept that the undead horde is just this powerful, it makes even more sense to stand BEHIND THE SPIKED BARRICADES. Would the zombies be able to zerg rush over it with enough numbers? Sure, but it would slow them down and prevent them from instantly smashing right into the front lines at full speed like we saw them do.
i know its retarded, but the true reason they did that is CGing the whole horde was probably expensive as fuck so they had to die first
William Green
>All those Dothraki, Dany's first major plotline and first army, sent to get jobbed just so they can do one mediocre shot of the flames going out pottery
Isaiah Russell
Jon Snow is such a shit commander, the only battle he ever won was the one at the Wall with the Wildlings.
Nathan Fisher
>Jaime the greatest battle strategist huh?
Adrian Price
>only 6 episodes to wrap up literally everything >first two episodes have zero plot-relevant content, consisting entirely of "hey we haven't seen each other since ____" and "remember that one time we ____" dialogue >third episode wraps up entire white walker plot arc in the most anticlimactic way imaginable while the entire 90 minute episode is mostly action fluff filler of zero substance >three episodes left devoted to Dany vs Cersei, something nobody should give a fuck about
GRRM is a lazy fuck but he's not capable of stooping this low
>Recon >Probe >Harass >A literal sea of death that can afford to use their own troups as bridge over fiery trenches
Adrian Carter
>that can afford to use their own troups as bridge over fiery trenches You mean like that one trench that they stood in front of doing nothing for literally 5 minutes while not a single archer shot any arrows at them? Fuck, even barring the immense fuckup of sending TEN THOUSAND cavalry into the darkness to fucking die, they should have had the dragons constantly strafing past those undead while they were standing there in front of the flames doing NOTHING instead of waiting for them to wise up and start using their bodies to snuff out the flames. This episode was fucking stupid, immensely stupid. A fucking 14 year old could come up with a better battle plan than this shit.
Juan Howard
Exactly why would anyone care about the Cersei plot after they fought the humanity-ending crisis. Seems anti climactic
Connor Hill
when has he ever done anything strategically intelligent in a battle?
They didn't know exactly how bad the walkers would be or how many which is why recon would've helped, and if the Dothraki could harass and get a portion of the walkers chasing them off somewhere that makes it better for the defending troops and would let them divide and conquer if there was any capable Commander out there. Shit I'm beginning to think the little girl who got the soup from the onion knight made all these battle plans
Ryder Perry
It'd be as if the Fellowship of the Ring traveled to Mordor and destroyed the ring and killed Sauron, and then afterwards they go to Moria to visit Gimli's uncle Balin and end up needing to fight some orcs and a cave troll. Main plot is over, who gives a fuck?
Asher Stewart
I can't believe they couldn't even find one person who studied any type of warfare to consult with. Hell even a PA who's played total war could come up with a better battle than this.
Elijah Perez
Yeah, but the writers room want the main plot to be about powerful yassss queens duking it out now, so the night prince had to get dumped if they wanted to have enough time for the epic one liners and stare downs that'll be the real climax of the show.
how come the wights weren't that strong, fast and effective in all the previous episodes like the lake of ice battle?
Christopher Stewart
His siege of Riverrun was conducted pretty well even before he was grounded and based. Jaime ran three different armies at once, after beating the Riverlander forward army and completely shutting down any hope of getting another army together.
Robb was a much better tactician and inspiring leader however, and had the Blackfish killing Lannister scouts. Jaime would lead his cavalry out to screen for the northern army himself, which he knew was coming, and he was a great leader to be fair for leading in the front. Fearless. The Battle of the Whispering Wood was a complete ambush, Jaime fought on by three sides, and yet STILL nearly cut down Robb Stark personally. You don't do that by chance. He led a desperate cavalry charge to kill the King and very nearly did so.
The ensuing Battle of the Camps was carried out by lesser and weaker commanders who easily fell and routed. If Jaime had not gotten captured, which was extremely fortunate for the Starks, he'd have a sizable portion of his army be able to either fight the Starks or simply retreat and regroup. Nevermind that he goes on to command the ensuing siege of riverrun part 2, and leads with a capable and sharp mind. You don't suddenly become intelligent from getting your hand cut off. He just got more humble. That's it.
Ethan Long
Shoya boyu
Camden Hughes
Good night sweet prince
They shouldve had the red witch just go balls out shooting fireballs and magic missiles until she slowly turns into an old lady and collapses from using all her magic
Joshua Rivera
>On top of that the problem is that the dead are so numerous that even if the pikes could hold, eventually they would be flanked by more and more dead.
Bro they had 2 dragons. the unsullied could've hold the line (which you clearly see they do, they are the last unit standing while everyone else is already running) while Dany and Jon just did strafing runs keeping the pressure off
But for some reason Jon just stares at the battle like a moron and Dany does.. something?
Thomas Gray
ehhh, i think a giant fucking clump of undead niggers would just pile onto the phalanx until it collapsed from the weight of a billion dead cunts
Kayden Ward
>Feed them more fodder to use against you If WW weren't written like retards as well, they would have undead Dothraki charge right back.
Andrew Mitchell
>Play a shitload of Mount & Blade >Watch this whole episode >Get increasingly furious as the "battle" goes on GODDAMMIT DID THEY HIRE AN ACTUAL RETARD FOR A TACTICIAN
>Implying they would do even the basic of asking someone about tactics in their fantasy show They dropped all political maneuvering, strategy, and character development and intimate drama that drove the show for the same bullshit of characters drawing strength from off-screen resources and being as weak or strong as desired because to them, only the spectacle of the fight matters.
Alexander Davis
You'd come running too if you knew this beef castle was on the other side of the wall
