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Avengers Endgame 1.2 bilions in 3 days
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Is everyone and their grandmothers going to see this? how does a film even generate that much hype?
That's quite scary actually. If someone told you ten years ago a superhero movie would gross 1bn in three days (let alone a movie), you probably would've laughed them off. What the fuck is going on?
Good.
Avatar is a shit film.
Quality, talent, trust, nostalgia, passion, respect, daring, and marketing.
About fucking time
Avatar sucks, I haven't seen Endgame I hope it sucks less
A lot of marketing and talk about it being the final part for the current Marvel lineup. Obviously, the first viewers will be the fans of various Marvel movies, who go to see how the hi jinks of their favorite,
But after those have seen it a couple of times, the curious onlookers will go to see it as well, as people often are curious about tings branded as biggest something ever.
But yeah, it is a triumph of marketing. Disney has pulled all the stings for this one and it shows.
It's 5 days. It was released on the 24th.
Rampant marketing, the widest movie release in theaters, popularity/word of mouth, AMURICAH!, and libtards wetting themselves over their SJW crap.
Brainwashing through social media
re-read the pic.
Better than MCU though
What's that have to do with comic book movies ?
this. disney should have always been regulated. they brainwash kids with their trash, who then drag their family into paying for this garbage.
I'd rather watch the First Avengers film, Some of the Iron Man films, The GOTG films, the Infinity Wars films, and Dr Strange than anything Cameron has done in a long, long time.
inflation
Why do people give a shit about box office? Are you getting a percentage of the gross? Do you have Disney stocks?
>Do you have Disney stocks?
i do actuality
Because this is like sports for nerds. My team beats your team.
Why are you so fucking stupid that you'd post this question without immediately knowing the answer?
But Cameron hasn't done anything in last decade except for putting his signature under bunch of shitty projects to collect a check.
Dark Knight came out 11 years ago and made 1 billion at the box office.
Actually you and OP should re-read the pic. That 3 days is for the domestic release. It literally opened in China and a bunch of other countries on the 24th
Because with sports it makes sense, the numbers tell you what team is better because they scored more points. With cinema it doesn't mean shit, how much money it made isn't a factor of the film's quality, at best its a reflection of the competency of the distributor's marketing department. Just take a look at this list
all of these movies are the worst most generic shit.
It's a popularity contest, so in that sense it does. It just a vote for which film has the bigger dick.
The good old FOMO
How many of the character's names from Avatar can you remember without looking on IMDb?
I could probably name all of the major characters and most of the minor ones
Not everybody is a retarded Californian that some hack youtuber cherry picked for his video.
>I could probably name all of the major characters and most of the minor ones
Then you're very much in the minority.
TDK was the first capeshit to gross 1 Bil back in 2008.
The dropoff is going to be even better lmao
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tic toc, MCU. James is coming to reclaim his throne soon
COPE
>What is Dark Knight
>James is coming to reclaim his throne soon
Disney owns Avatar.
so this is the power of monopolies and brand marketing . whoa
>m-muh inflation
Cope harder retarded faggot
And word is they'll probably cancel all the sequels except for the second one.
Definitely going into my macro. Catch it soon on the nearest "XXX days until Avatar" thread
>When will they learn
>Disney spent $4 billion to acquire marvel
>makes that back in 2 movies
Fucking amazing.
No they don't, they own the Publishing rights for the movies. James owns the IP through lightstorm entertainment.
Then why are they already filming the third film?
>ignoring foreign at 71%
Don't worry, the next massive cinematic universe is gonna come out
Remember when Yea Forums sad BvS would be kino, Black Panther, Cap Marvel, and this would flop?
>Disney owns Avatar
Fucking hell...These motherfuckers gets ALL the money
>captain marvel will fail because SJWs
>makes a billion
Lmao never listen to Yea Forums
>4 white men
it will fail
Avatar's foreign is 72.7% like most blockbusters. Not sure what your point is
Why is there always the presumption that the wild success of one property means other properties can't be created or make any money? Do you babies really only care about who made the most? Was shit this bad back in the younger years of Hollywood?
movies arent made for us anymore
Seething D.C. Cuck lmao
>how does profit work
>this would flop?
Who the fuck said that?
No its not, its shit, no one knows what the story is or any of the characters. It only made so much money because the chinese couldnt get enough the shitty 3D.
Nothing but laddercuckfag niggers in here.
Avatar was never alive. Gone with the wind has like 5 times what avatar made. Even star wars is above avatar
72.7% is not normal for blockbusters.
It's 5 days, but it's pretty funny it out grossed Captain Marvel in less than a week
It might out gross Titanic, but not Avatar, the drop off is gonna be huge
It's gonna gross 2.2 to 2.4 billion
>Quality
>the drop off is gonna be huge
Why do you people do this to yourselves?
most blockbusters have around 35/65 split
sure it's a bit higher than usual, but nothing that out of the ordinary. It's not like the latest fast and furious movies where its 20/80 split
>Then why are they already filming the third film?
The second and third films were shot simultaneously. They didn't shoot the second movie first and then moved on to the third one, they shot scenes from both back and forth throughout the entire process.
Disney is just unsure of the IP considering how long it's been since the first one, so they don't want to spend the cash for the outrageously expensive post-production of all sequels. The second one is much further along in development (a finished scene was actually screened to investors a few months ago) and most of it was funded through Fox anyway so they'll release it. Anything after that is 100% up in the air, though.
I ask you the same, you said Infinity War would out gross Avatar & it had a pretty big drop off & fell 700 million short
Inflation.
Avatar is 10 years old, adjusted for inflation it's probably at like 3.5 billion
Nobody said that though. The argument was about whether it would BTFO Force Awakens.
lol no, countless marvel fanboys were saying it would break 3 billion
>The argument was about whether it would BTFO Force Awakens.
Wut? Everybody and their mom knew by know that it would outgross TFA.
Wrong.
Look at this, it didn’t even make $20,000 today.
It made less money than TFA you fucking spastic.
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>white
none of them have blonde hair and blue eyes
While I do think endgame might beat avatar with inflation,
these records are kinda meaningless without accounting for inflation.
>anyone who disagrees with me uses reddit. Therefore making my opinion the only right one
It will need to reach 2B foreign alone to beat Avatar
Not going to happen. Sorry disneypakis
COPE
Avatar 2/3/4/5/6 will be the highest grossing films of all time. Marvel can't hold Jimbo's jockstrap.
>Domestic
Chyna has a bigger movie market the mutts nowadays
haha cuck
This already failed. Blumhouse is making those films now for like 5 million per film.
Will be interesting to see the drop off. Summer movie with some hype movies coming in may. Pokemon, John Wick, Godzilla. If it doesn't make another billion this week, it's not even going to beat Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Which means Rise of Skywalker, December release, with no competition, will make so more money than this
In Korea, 5 million tickets were sold for the first weekend alone
the population is 50million
bu a cutie
I wouldn't be so sure
First of all the numbers aren't definitive, they're estimates, second of all, unless this opening weekend turns out to be worth over 40% of the full box office numbers it will surpass Avatar
It's overperforming expectations already by a lot
>it will surpass Avatar
it is laughable even thinking this. Its not going to break $2B foreign.
Its best bet is breaking a billion domestically because you Americans love this shit
How it gets the money isn't important, what matters is if it manages to beat Avatar
It can, I'm not saying it's a sure thing but it might happen
All it would take to make certain would be an internet campaign to make it happen, just get a bunch of people riled up and get them to watch the movie a bunch of times to make sure it beats Avatar
No wonder people are booing at the Star Wars trailer, Rian really did murder the franchise.
for it to beat happen it needs to have long legs.
these marvel films dont do that. always the big openings because everyone rushes to find out the latest installment in this cinematic soap opera. Infinity War beaten Force Awakens in openings but failed to beat it in total
After all these years of shoving shit down people's throats they've learned to enjoy it.
Again, unless the opening weekend alone is worth over 40% it won't need long legs, it'll blast past all the others in a very short amount of time
damn, disney has that much money to blow on buying their own tickets?
The played Black Panther for over 6 months.
infinity war released until september as well.
neither got close
long legs means people WANTING to see them for a long period
lol no actually it's the MCU banking on the Chinese to beat Avatar
Avatar made close to 200 million in Germany, France, Japan (very tough market to crack)
it made just barely 200 million in China because the market was much less developed at that time
The number that matters most is actual individual tickets sold, not dollar amounts. Prices vary and inflation changes the value of a dollar. Obviously more people saw Star Wars than Gone with the Wind because there was more people alive to see it. You might try to cleverly point out that there's inflation with populations too as there weren't enough people alive to see the older movies. So the real metric should be tickets per capita. As that would eliminate the effects of population growth.
Avatar is still more impressive because it was a lone movie, endgame had 20+ movies and 10+ years leading up to it with ridiculous marketing.
why is that important though? besides people not liking James Cameron
his franchise has to be number 1 spot and he is butthurt it isn't
But Avatar has literally no entry barrier, the simple fact that you need to do homework and watch 20+ movies just to be able to watch this and it's still bringing in massive audiences makes it even more impressive
never seen such delusion as this post
10 years of build up and marketing.
Because highest grossing movie ever is a dick measuring contest so obviously people care
I personally dislike modern James Cameron, I liked him better when he made Aliens and Terminator rather than chick flick on a boat and chick flick for furries
I disagree, 20+ movies and over a decade of lead up time makes people invest in the wrap up movie that is endgame.
it's as much impressive as people going to McDonalds instead of trying something new
it's called brand awareness
or it's like a finale of a popular tv show
not exactly ground breaking
I say this as someone who enjoys capeshit
Yes and no
I know some people, myself included, who got bored of spending money for the barrage of capeshit every year and decided to just watch it later down the line
Now Endgame is out and while I would like to watch the big finale in theaters, I'm like 5 or 6 movies behind because I haven't seen all the enormous lead up to this
I watched the first Avengers in theaters because it was a big exciting crossover movie and it just didn't have that much baggage to deal with
Alright Yea Forums let's make a deal.
If Endgame doesn't end up grossing Avatar. Everyone should send a audio recording of themselfs singing the James Cameron theme song from South Park.
Goddamn I cant wait for DIS to pop after this.
What exactly sucks so much about avatar? Cuz its dervative, formulaic? Yeah like fucking 90 % of blockbusters.
It's literally Pocahontas in space.
I'm impressed.
Everything besides the visuals is just mediocre. It doesn't even really have good performances.
GWTW has still sold the most tickets period. That list is already adjusted for inflation AND change in ticket price. That movie played for years on end.
>why would Disney buy Captain Marvel tickets to make it seem popular?
>what would they have to gain?
People caring about the box office is one of the weirdest shit humans do. Like when oreo cookies releases a new cookie do you all obsess over their sales? What about doritos? If pepsi makes a new drink do we care how it sells? It's so fucking bizarre to give a shit about this especially since none of us have a cut in it
5 actually, but everyone already knew this was going to be insanely frontloaded due to hype and build up. The reason why its opening weekend is so big is the same reason why Captain Marvel's was huge as well - it opened in all the major markets at once. It won't make more than 2.5b at this rate, but most likely it will fizzle out at 2-.2.2 billion. Endgame's length is going to hurt its box office.
>Food analogy
t. Laddercuck
There's nothing else to watch
This only applies if you're insanely reductionist about Avatar's plot, and assume that Pocahontas was the first "different races meeting for the first time" film, which it wasn't.
>nostalgia
Lmao no
>daring
LMAO NO
ITS GOTTA BEAT 3.2 BILLY
AVATAR ADJUSTED FROM 2009 TO 2019 DOLLARS
IT WONT BTW
its gotta beat 2.7B to be highest grossing of all time you retard
NOPE, IT HAS TO BEAT THE INFLATION ADJUSTED FIGURE WHICH IS 3.2
We win?
No one gives a shit about those films
And the China factor.
That's a retarded benchmark considering that one burger is worth twice as much as it did in 90s. And there are a lot more theaters today, especially the expensive IMAX theaters that inflate the BO. Ticket admissions is the only benchmark that matters.
This is just box office right? Doesn't even include the axe body spray, audi, and fortnite ad money
It's one of the few moments where a marvel movie was released worldwide at the same time instead of in different markets during different weeks.
Gone with the Wind is the highest grossing movie of all time. Adjusted for inflation it has made 3.3 billion dollars. Does this sound familiar? Whenever people bring up big summer movies that make a ton of cash there is always someone who throws this out there and to them I say... that's awesome, but let's put that into context. All $ from here on out has been adjusted for inflation.
Gone with the Wind was released in 1939 and its initial run lasted until 1943. It made 221 million its first year in limited release and then 285 million over its next 3 years in general release to bring its initial 4 year total to 506 million globally. Combining those 4 years it sold 60 million tickets. So over four years it sold 60 million tickets and made $506 million in the US. Let's compare that to Iron Man 3 that sold roughly 40 million tickets and made 380 million in its first four weeks in the US or The Avengers that sold 50 million and made 532 million and all of a sudden Gone with the Wind isn't looking all that impressive. So where did the rest of Gone with the Wind's gross come from? That would be the eight re-releases in 1947, 1954, 1961, 1967, 1971, 1974, 1989, and 1998 which earned the movie its additional 2.8 billion dollars.
So the next time someone throws out how much money Gone with the Wind made keep it mind it took the movie nearly 60 years to reach it’s total. Many of those years took place during a time when alternative entertainment was not as easily accessible as it is today. There was no TV for the first 10 years of the movies run, no movie rentals for the first 40 years, there certainly wasn't Netflix, video games, sports packages, computers, and whatever other endless river of entertainment options we have today.
TLDR – Gone with the Wind made 506 million in its first 4 years and had 8 other re-releases over the span of 60 years to bring its total to 3.3 billion.
Caring about pro wrestling is weirder.
Let me guess, this is straight from r/boxoffice (marveldrone infested subreddit) or r/marvel?
Bah, that's just semantics.
Yeah it's just Box Office. These big blockbusters make a shit load from those product placement deals. Man of Steel made 170mil from them
Based
YOU IDIOT THATS THE THEATER AVERAGE
LEARN TO READ A GRAPH
Avatar 2 will make a lot but people are going to be so pissed at the large passing of time and quality drop that the others won't do as well.
Brainwashing.
>quality drop
Name a bad Cameron film.
>Let's compare that to Iron Man 3
>using a capeshit movielet for your comparison
I'm glad capeshiters are starting to put down Gone with the Wind after using it endlessly to put down Avatar
remember that Endgame will never sell as many tickets as Avatar or Titanic
The Inflation adjusted chart is the only one that matters
Avatar hate is the most reddit opinion out there, Reddit.
You were close, U.S. inflation calculator says $3.2 billion.