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If Captain America "didn't miss his window" then why didn't he appear again on the platform in his time suit?

Dr. Strange uses the Time Stone. Loki uses the Space Stone. Rhonin uses the Power Stone. The dark elf guy uses the Reality Stone. Thanos uses the stones like he's playing Guitar Hero with them. Etc. None of them ever got injured at all.

>...He and everyone else would have been dead without his Avenger involvement.
You have it all wrong. There are two caps at most points in time now. One cap that is an avenger and one cap that is not and is chillin with peggy on the low.

>why old cap he not dead in 2023
SUPER SOLIDER SERUM

To use the US military in the movie you basically had to have some scenes sucking off the army like Transformers does. Army didnt like the way that the army was portrayed in Avengers and demanded all their scenes to be cut. Thats why theyre so heavily in the trailer for Avengers but not in the movie.

There is always a buffer inbetween themselves and the stones before they use it.

Bitch you're just making up your own lore as you go.

>they had jeff goldblums orgy ship, they got away
>not an argument
>yes, whatever they need, it's nanotech science fantasy, it's the least interesting question to answer
>wrong
>wrong

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>Eye of Agamotto
>Tesseract
>Ronan's (you don't even know his name so I know you're trolling) hammer
>He doesn't use the Aether in a typical way

Thanos literally just grabs the power stone with his bare hand and blasts Captain Marvel with it. No injuries come to him. Not even a mild headache.

Thanos is Hulk level's of strong

>they had jeff goldblums orgy ship, they got away
Where and when was this stated? You can't just conveniently assume your own plot.
>not an argument
What isn't an argument and why? You're evading.
>yes, whatever they need, it's nanotech science fantasy, it's the least interesting question to answer
That still doesn't change the fact that it makes no sense. Technology isn't magic it takes time and effort to craft and figure out, especially when its FUCKING TIME TRAVEL. The "a techno wizard did it" excuse only goes so far.
>wrong
>wrong
Not an argument.

After infinity war: you know what would be superlame ending? If they build a time machine and get the infinity stones before Thanos.

I wasn't even expecting much. My thoughts before Endgame: "as long as it's not time travel, I am ok with that".

>implying The Power stone didn't start to fuck Ronin up when he first got it
>implying he didn't have to put it on his weapon, because he literally couldn't handle it
You need to re-watch GOTG

The ability to use the stone depends on how you channel their power and how strong the user is. Most characters can't just grab a stone and use it. It would kill them. They have made this very clear.

>Time Stone
never physically touched by any character (they all have to levitate it to use it), or it is encased in the eye of agmotto.

>Space Stone
Encased in a cube. Even the cube is dangerous to touch, and kills people see Cap 1 and red skull.

>Power Stone
It can just kill a person on touch. Has to be embedded on something.

>Reality Stone
The average character has no ability to control it. They can be touched/infected by it, but they will have very little control over what they can do with it or what will happen aka Jane. The dark elf never really figures out how to use it at fucking all. That is why that final fight in Thor2 is such a weird cluster fuck, and the stone barely helps the dark efls at all.

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Strong or not, there was literally zero ill effect from using the stone.

This

It is very well established that you can't go just "grab" a stone an use it. You need a buffer.

>Most characters can't just grab a stone and use it. It would kill them. They have made this very clear.
The only time it was ever mentioned that infinity stones ever harm you is in Endgame and that's only when you use them all at once because the Snap uses "enough energy to power a continent." It was never said that using a single stone causes harm. Characters use them all the time.

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You could see that shit going up his arm you mongoloid. Watch the movie again.

>pic related
>saying the wakandans were there, why can't the us military? isn't an argument. there could be real reasons why they're not around, who knows, there's a giant alien ship above the Avengers HQ, they're probably just going to let them deal with it, this is also like an hour at most after 50% of the population spontaneously reappears after a 5 year disappearance.
>they show in Avengers 2 tony has a robot fabrication line in the facility, it only makes sense they could make suits too.
>still wrong, watch the movie again
>pic shows thanos' arm mangled after using the stones once

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1. screenrant.com/avengers-infinity-war-asgardians-survived/ Directors confirmed the surviving Asgardians escaped before the beginning of Infinity War. They were heading for Earth anyways so they probably didn't have any better ideas.

2. 3. Tony Stark did? They didn't make those suits until he got there. Did you actually watch these movies?

4. Rocket would be the only person who even knew about the ship, he likely wanted to figure out if any of his friends survived.

5. Infinity War showed how Thanos was willing to sacrifice everything to achieve his goals while the avengers pussyfooted around it. If they had destroyed the mind stone right at the beginning like was suggested, Thanos would not have had the knowledge of the time stone to figure out how to travel back that far without studying the mystic arts.

6. It did though, the gauntlet just absorbed most of the damage. You could see see his arm was burned. I really don't think you actually watched the movies.

7. Because then you would be shitposting on Yea Forums about how brand new Mary Sue swooped in and saved the day instead of a character who has been instrumental in this whole saga.

8. This isn't really important though? Either what we are seeing at the end of the movie is a slightly altered timeline or this was somehow part of the canon timeline all along, but the second feels more retarded. In the end it doesn't matter to the plot and gives Cap a satisfying ending, so why do you care?

9. Super Soldier Serum slowed down the aging process for him. He is definitely well over 100 years old and will probably still be alive for several more years.

>it's only mentioned in endgame

Nope. It's mentioned as early as The First Avenger, when Hydra is trying to handle the space-stone in its R&D and the tesseract keeps killing their own people.

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the power stone will mess you up if you're not strong enough, this was a pretty large plot point in GOTG

Thanos is powerful enough to touch the stones. Anyone else would have died.

Yep, it took all the guardians together to be able to handle it's power without dying.

>BUTT THANOS DID IT do EVERYONE CAN DO IT
>missing the godamm point
>implying your ability to handle the stones isn't correlated to your strength/tolerance
You're godamm retarded dude

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>In the end it doesn't matter to the plot and gives Cap a satisfying ending, so why do you care?
Are you retarded
>Explain in detail why you can't just go back in time and change events
>Entire plot revolves around why they can't just go back in time and change events and why when they time travel they're actually just going to an alternate universe
>Take the piss out of other time travel movies
>Fuck up at the very last minute as it's revealed that you actually can change past events because ???

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My biggest issue with the Army is that they could take on almost anything in Thanos army. The multiple armed monsters are shown to be hurt by Bucky’s bullets. So imagine what a bunch of Abrahams, F-15, rocket launchers and hundreds of guys with guns could do. It’s annoying seeing the Walandian army running towards the enemies with spears, like idiots.

I have no idea how captain America is even still on the same timeline. Shouldn’t it have changed when he went back? And if there were two captain America’s then where is the other one who didn’t go back in time?

>thinking the army can compete with the power of kangz

So Hawkeye is also as strong as Thanos? Interesting. Never knew that.

There is no way captain America can appear at the end. By the films own rules, it can’t happen

Each stone has it's own unique set of rules in order to be wielded by someone or collected. Notice how the Soul Stone did not kill Hawkeye. Black Widow sacrificed herself to get it to Haweye. Therefore he was granted it. The Reality Stone infected Jane to escape it's prison, she was not able to use it, and it was killing her. The elf could not use it well, and I could not tell what the requirements were for it's use or how to earn it. The Space Stone seems to not like being touched, as it tends to warp people to faraway places and be a bit tricksy as Gollum would say. Power Stone reacts only to power, you can only keep it under control through sheer physical power. I saw no one lay hands on the Mind Stone, but I would imagine it would be a constant mental battle to keep it under control. As for the Time Stone, I saw no one physically touch it either. With all six, Thanos breaks them after three weeks. Maybe he could not put up with their fuckery any longer?

>Each stone has it's own unique set of rules
It looks like you're inventing your own set of rules right now.

Yeah? And? The GOTG held hands and used the Power Stone to annihilate Ronan. They held it longer, and barely got a bloody nose out of it.

>Captain America needs to go back in time to put the stones back in their place
So how did he go to
>Asgard (and put the stone in Natalie Portman)
>Morag
>Vormir (and did the backwards magic to hide the stone again)
all on his own without the possibility of asking for help?

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>all the realities where they took the stones from went on to suffer catastrophic futures, but it's alright because they PRESUMABLY undo it at the end
Avengers are jerks

he also held the space stone in Infinity War without suffering anything, it just does the power surge thing when puts it in the gauntlet

You're a fucking tard. It is established that you have to earn the Soul Stone. Hawkeye also never attempted to use it. So he was at bare minimum granted the possession, not the use. Who knows what would have happened if he tried to use it to talk to Black Widow.

He had as much time as he needs

You are the retard in this thread. Enjoy your (You).

>tfw it was him all along

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I get that Cap Marvel is part space-stone, but why does this mean she can overpower Thanos when he's wielding the gauntlet with all the stones?

It is established that you have to earn the Soul Stone. Anything else you said is not established and is just lore you're creating on the movie's behalf to fill gaps.

>If doing the big Vanish Snap hurts you that much, why didn't it injure Thanos when he did it the first time in Infinity War?
It did as you can clearly see
Doing that much damage to a Titan would be lethal to a human so that's why Tony died

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Have you not seen the south park movie? The wakandans were operation human shield

It seems like, in MCU rules, using a stone in your hand has a more potent effect than using it in a gauntlet, at least as far as its own, specific effect goes. You can combine the stones together to create all sorts of wacky abilities, but if you just want to punch a motherfucker as hard as possible you would hold the Power Stone in your hand by itself. Tony's gauntlet probably also isn't as good at channeling the individual powers of the stones as Thanos' was, since Thanos has even more advanced tech and has presumably been working on this for decades, as opposed to like a week.

A) Maybe there were escape pods or something and they all coordinated to land on earth.
B) Both Thanos invasions happened almost within a span of what appeared to be minutes. I think the second one was like 20 minutes and the first one 45 minutes. The military simply would not have been able to mobilize that quickly and would not have had a clue what to do.
C) I imagine they had some 3D printing tech at the lab via the genius of Tony Stark that Banner was using. But you have a good point that Tony is sort of "magic science engineering man" who can make anything.
D) ?
E) It did.
F) Thanos body is literally stronger than the ship, he's practically invincible.
G) Either the whole MCU takes place in the timeline he created or the audience camera just switched to the other minutely different timeline when he he went into the device for dramatic purposes. In the original timeline he probably vanishes and they look for him, go back in time to find him and realize he just wanted to stay and so go back.
H) When he went back there were two of him, the younger version that gets frozen and the older one. The younger one does everything we saw in the avengers and the younger one lives his life with that woman.

>How did the Asgardians get to Earth when their ship blew up?
Magic
>Why didn't any military get involved with the Thanos invasion? Are soldiers just not cool enough? Imagine how much more effective a fleet of tanks and missiles would be than a guy with a robot arm or a kid with a spider suit.
They wouldn't do shit
>Who designed and made the Avengers time travel suits, time travel platform, etc? Tony Stark wasn't around. Do they have some factory and group of engineers behind the scenes we don't know about?
Yes
>How did Captain Marvel not only find Tony Stark in the depths of space without any communication, but also somehow towed his ship BY HAND a thousand light years back to Earth?
She can literally do anything.
>Why didn't any of the Avengers use the Infinity Stones to stop Thanos when they had them? Even if using all of them at once kills you, that doesn't mean you can't just use one or two. Fuck, just use the Time stone to rewind whatever you want it takes a second.
None of them could use them, except Strange, and rewinding time wouldn't do shit
>If doing the big Vanish Snap hurts you that much, why didn't it injure Thanos when he did it the first time in Infinity War?
It clearly did you dumb faggot piece of shit
>If Captain Marvel has enough force to just dive bomb through Thanos's entire mother ship, why can't she just dive bomb through Thanos?
Thanos is way stronger than a fucking ship
>The movie states MANY TIMES that going back in time does not change the future, only the future of the timeline you traveled to. So then how does Captain America manage to come back to his original timeline after he missed his window to come back?
He's fucking Captain America
>How is Old Captain America still alive if he chose to lead a normal life and not fight as Captain America during all those Earth invasion plots? He and everyone else would have been dead without his Avenger involvement.
Because they had Captain Marvel now

my only issue was how thanos needed help to fight scarlet witch and captain marvel(characters that mean nothing)...but was able to take out thor captain america(with a hammer) and iron man at the same time no sweat.

Even though I like Cap ending up with Peggy, poor execution
Here's an improved version
>Cap goes back to give the stones back
>Nat comes back with the shield
>Shows Cap dancing with Peggy in a distinctly different dimension

And even then it’s implied they only managed to do it because Starlord is half celestial

If time travel was always the answer, why didn’t Strange just use the Time Stone to travel back and retrieve a complete gauntlet in the first place?

If Heimdall can access the power of the Bifrost from anywhere, why didn’t he just space Thanos and his cronies back in Infinity War? He had the opportunity before Loki ever handed over the Space Stone. Why doesn’t Thor later use Stormbreaker for the same thing?

Why didn’t we get this based motherfucker in pic-related instead of Captain Plug-in? We already knew the Nova Corps existed and it could have given us a movie showing the destruction of Xandar and Thanos retrieving the Power Stone - you know, stuff that’s actually *relevant* to the ongoing story instead of the blatant, manipulative bait-and-switch that Captain Marvel was? Rider’s power is also a variable instead of a constant. It would be easy to show how housing the entirety of the Nova Force simultaneously makes him unbelievably powerful while it’s also slowly killing him. That’s infinitely preferable to a story inserted in with barely even tangential bearing on the the plot and that actively undermines its backwards continuity.

Bonus: the helmets the Nova Corps wear are more than just protection - they contain a HUD and communications equipment which would make it easier to accept him showing up to help Tony and Nebula as the result of a distress beacon instead of just blind fucking luck.

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Maybe he was getting tired

>implying it's impossible to get a ride or another ship
>You dumb nigga

>Hey, should we maybe bring Thor with us in this lucky ride we just hitched?
>Nah, the plot needs him where he is.

You dumb, nigga.

yas qweeen slay, also....have sex

The thing i dont get. The say they all only have enough pym particles to go to the past and come back. Past nebula stole future nebulas pym particles to go back and pretended to be future nebula. Past nebula couldnt have given thanos pym particles cause she needed to use it all to fo to the future, so how was she able to bring thanos from the past to the future? Did i miss something?

Actually, it’s the entire movie series that misses the point. The Stones in the comics can be used by literally anyone. That’s a huge part of what makes them so dangerous.

If thanos used the time stone to revive vision, why dr. Strange didnt use to save tony stark ????

Reasons.

>trying to find logic in capreshit movies
Just stop. It's useless.

Ike Palmer annoyed the US military so they don't want any part of the marvel movies

Only half of the Asgard ship was destroyed

You literally see it eating away at him when he grabs it.

Movie stones are different from comic stones

>They barely got a bloody nose
>>You can see their skin peeling and falling off

He'd reverse the click and Thanos' army would be back
Better question is why didn't Tony click to fix the timelines and put the stones back in place, sending Thanos' army back and eliminating the need for Cap to go put them all back (which creates far more branches, by the movie's own logic)

Answer the questions then nigger

Captain marvel meets the avengers on Earth in-between Infinity war and end game and they tell her to get Ironman

This is the end credits scene in Captain Marvel

They don’t know where the fuck he is.

In dr strange movie it was proved that you can go back in time for just one object without affecting the rest, for exemple the apple in the table!

Why not reverse time on a Thanos till he’s a baby?

>but also somehow towed his ship BY HAND a thousand light years back to Earth?
>thousand light years
They left Titan, as in titan the Saturn moon....

But infinity war established you can use the time stone on something specific
When thanos rewinds vision and the mind stone back scarlet witch is unaffected, she doesn’t suddenly go back a few seconds

He send a distress signal, no diferent from the guardians searching for the asgardians in infinity war

No, it’s its own planet

it is canon that it is the saturn moon

Yeah okay I have no idea honestly
Except for

looking for sense in a blatant cash-grab formulaic movie

Nova still makes a hell of a lot more sense. What should make it obvious even to you is how you’ve focused on this to the exclusion of every other point.

In the comics, sure. In the movie, it’s its own planet thousands of light years from Earth.

I understand the reason behind this with the propaganda abroad and all, but jesus christ, what a bunch of fags.

Why didn't any military get involved with the Thanos invasion? Are soldiers just not cool enough? Imagine how much more effective a fleet of tanks and missiles would be than a guy with a robot arm or a kid with a spider suit.

the wakanda military did respond

>How did Captain Marvel not only find Tony Stark in the depths of space without any communication, but also somehow towed his ship BY HAND a thousand light years back to Earth?
And if she can move this fast, how was she not fast enough to get the gauntlet to the van before Thanos could destroy the van?

Jesus christ you're retarded. All of those characters had powerful artifacts that harnessed the power of the stones, and Thanos explicitly stated to be powerful enough to use at least one raw stone without being destroyed, I honestly don't understand how you can be this retarded yet still somehow manage to type grammatically coherent sentences.

Wondered the same thing as it happened. Not seen an explanation yet.

Good point.

In the comics all they are dead
and were resurrected on Earth in other bodies
Thor comes to Earth and looks for all Asgardians and makes them remember who they were
It was an epic moment of the Marvel comics that we will never see on MCU

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Why is some random powerless big purple guy strong enough to use the stones yet reality bending magic man isnt?

>reality bending magic man
He's still physically a normal human, though. He would use his magic to touch it, which he does by making it float. Thanos is an alien who is aberrant in power even for his species. He's basically a mutant. Physical power seems to help a lot in not getting fucking merked by the stones, as Hulk was the only one able to use it among the Avengers and come out relatively okay. His arm will probably be back to normal before too long. Not to mention Thanos has been prepping for this plan presumably for a very long time, so he'd have a better idea of how to use them than most.

This movie was boring. And I'm usually extremely easily entertained by somewhat decent capeshit.

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Except that makes no sense.

1) He fucked his niece (Gross and Disney wouldn't allow it)

2) Why didn't he teleport to the future after Carter died? She was his only reason for being back there.

3) How did he age so much when it is clearly shown that the Super Soldier Serum reduces aging.

4) WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HULK DURING THE FINAL FIGHT?

I will never be over how bad they fucked up everything about Asgard.

That's probably why you found it boring. All of the action is near the end, and there are a lot of scenes of dialog and people dealing with the aftermath of a horrific tragedy. This isn't even me doing a "you're just too dumb", it's that the structure of the movie, at least in the first half, is very different from most superhero movies.

>4) WHERE THE FUCK IS THE HULK DURING THE FINAL FIGHT?
Nursing his fucked up arm, presumably. Not to mention he was holding up a whole building after Thanos' ship blasted the fuck out of the complex so Hawkeye and Rocket didn't get squished.

thanos is like, either the #1 or #2 most powerful individual being in the universe so far

its not like anyone else could do that

1) ?
2) she dies in like 2012 or whatever
3) he’s 100 years old and pretty healthy seeming for it
4) Hulk got damaged badly by the infinity gauntlet. I don’t think starks was as good as the one thanos had

Now that the Marvel Universe is done, its time to selll off the DVD's, start washing your own clothes and retire tendies as a food group.

>I don’t think starks was as good as the one thanos had
Yeah Stark's definitely wasn't as good. Thanos' was made by the Dwarf King out of the power of a sun. Stark is good, but he's not that good to make something comparable in...what, a day or two?

Why would you need to stop eating tendies? They are amazing with sweet baby rays

I know you're not doing a too dumb cause I never said I didn't get it or why. The drama of the first half was not gripping, and the music wasn't good, besides when they refused songs from earlier Marvel movies. It added up to being fucking boring

Earth was too busy trying to restore order in nations which just lost half their population.

It was also all too easy, considering. Remember when Loki took the tesseract in 2012? All that happened is they said “aw shucks, guess we need to go to 1970”

Magic hammer.

Agreed, that was an extremely dissatisfying wrap up to that plot thread. The movie just isn't that good in my opinion.

all the people criticizing the movie sound like adults, but all the people raving about it type like manchildren
really makes me think

When you have access to time travel, you never have “just a day or two.” They had access to unlimited Pym particles as well, All courtesy of the past.

this.

reckon nobody actually gives a good explanation just follows along because "cools hit happened haha"

Wait this user has a good point. How did Cap in "our" original timeline go to the exact spots in time and do all that shit? Did he fuck Natalie Portman to inject her with the Aether? Did he apologize to Red Skull and throw his wife down to return the Soul stone? I'm so fucking confused

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because we ended up in the worst possible timeline, user. enjoy your stay

They can change events of the past, but it will not affect their reality, only that of that timeline they traveled to. My take is that Cap missed the window and returned when either Peggie died or that timelines Cap was woken up. He has the clock to return, it is up to him to activate it.

Does he fuck his own niece? Um... probably. But only in that timeline, not the one where the MCU happens

Daily reminder that Infinity War should've been the canon ending of MCU.

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Maybe Tony would end up going bad or some shit way later if he survived and that's what Strange tried to prevent? Like, become a herald of Galactus and destroy earth? Idk. It makes no sense for an all powerful Sorcerer Supreme to just let Tony die if he could've teleported the gauntlet away into a pocket dimension Thanos couldn't access.

Does that mean Loki never got the tesseract? How do the events even transpire after Loki in 2012 steals it and flees--does that mean he's still alive now in 2019? Or is it just another branch that was created? But the Ancient One explained how if you remove a stone from one reality it fucks it all up, so did Loki fuck up a timeline?

Good for who? There's a reason Marvel chose to graphically show their IPs going up like paper money burning away.

Cap brought back two extra vials.

Still doesn't matter, he's alive so he should've been fighting Thanos.

How do they reference The Big Lebowski if Jeff Bridges is Obadiah Stane in their universe? Who plays The Dude in the MCU?

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We don't know because the MCU does not take place in that timeline. Loki takes the teserract but he is still part of the timeline

Based reference here. Thor was butchered though

But how does 2014 Thanos get a vial? 2014 Nebula uses 2023 Nebula's vial to go to 2023, then later turns on the time machine to bring 2014 Thanos to 2023. Did she make another trip to 2014 to give Thanos a vial? That would require another two vials just for Nebula to make the round trip again.

Can someone tell me why Thor jobbed the entire time? We go on this whole journey to get him a new axe that wrecks Thanos the first movie but then all of a sudden he can’t do shit in the second one??

>OOGAA BOOGAA HAPPY ENDINGS ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN COHESIVE NARRATIVE AND GOOD STORYTELLING. I WANT THE GOOD GUYS TO WIN BECAUSE REASONS. I WANT FANSERVICEEEE
The absolute state of capeshit-fags. They couldn't accept the kino End of Evangelion-tier ending of Infinity War.

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cause he's a fat alcoholic who hasn't fought in 5 years

He lacked the spirit to fight.

If you think that Marvel movies should end the same as Evangelion you clearly misunderstand the themes and target audiences of both franchises.

I just said it should but I know it couldn't because I know capshitfags are retarded.

Quantum realm lets you travel through time and SPACE. How do you think they all got to those places the first time? Cap's crew just appear in New York and Widow's crew just appear on Morag. They took the Milano so they could split up.

Does everyone bitching about Old Cap think two Caps can't co-exist in the same timeline or something?
It felt pretty obvious to me that he decided to settle down knowing that the other Cap would do the things he did. The only weird part is how Old Cap didn't feel like trying to help the world with what he knew, but he probably had the foresight to not mess with the timeline more than he already had.

1. Banner would have been smart enough to calculate the ideal safety parameters. This is why it's not likely that people who were in planes or on sea vessels to suddenly drop out of the sky. Quantify "all retuned *safely*" when thinking about it.

2. Consider your question. Earth was not prepared for the snap. Earth is not prepared NOW for people to suddenly return. People suddenly returning and humanity is notoriously inefficient with concerns of going off to fight after being suddenly restored.

In real-world time, earth got it's population restored and had roughly 15 minutes to get any kind of military organized and ready to arrive when only Wakandans and Asgardians were already prepared due to having already been in combat or closely enough entangled with comba. Now, factor this reality into your question.

3. You are actively ignoring the tech stark has at their disposal and the fact that Rocket is known to be light years ahead of stark in engineering ability. This, plus banner's intellect and access to wakandan materials/tech/info makes the question seem small and petty.

4. Rocket was on earth. He knows how the Benetar can be tracked, it's literally his car and he sent her to find it. Being that Pepper was there, there was enough hat happened between her back and forth between the ship to let them know stark was alive that occurred offscreen for her to arrive at the mansion to be ready for him to return. It stands to reason that among all of this that a warp point was used somehow, but she only towed the ship from low orbit.

5. "By-proxy" holding the stones via item is the only non-lethal or non-harmful way for a majority of mortals to hold the stones. CA1 and GOTG1 explain this extensively by showing you the results. Using the stones are even worse. Thanos happens to be a being who can not be so concerned on the matter of direct contact with the stones, but using all stones at the same instance taxes the user beyond all reason.

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Scarlet Witch was powered with the rage of watching her husbando die

>people who get their ass kicked by sand people standing a chance against Thanos

To get one of the stones you have to kill the thing you love most so does that mean that Hawkeye doesn’t give a shit about his wife and he and black widow fuck each other’s brains out back in the day?

isnt she like the most powerful avenger next to Strange?

I thought the most powerful avenger was marvel seeing as she almost kicked his ass

Why didn't they have Peter Dinklage make another gauntlet?

>How did the Asgardians get to Earth when their ship blew up?

Whenever Thanos attacks someplace, he always kills half of the population, and lets the other half live. When he attacked the Asgardians, he let half of them go, including Valkyrie, Korg and Miek.

cause Iron Man made one

>Who designed and made the Avengers time travel suits, time travel platform, etc? Tony Stark wasn't around. Do they have some factory and group of engineers behind the scenes we don't know about?

Did you miss the scene where he drives up to the Avengers compound and agrees to help them with the time machine?

>How did the Asgardians get to Earth when their ship blew up?
They had escape pods, Valkyrie led the escape. Mentioned very briefly in infinity war.

Clearly not as good as it it charred the Hulk's right arm

>How does valkarye survive Thanos' invasion on Thor's ship at the beginning of IW because Thanos destroys the entire ship by using the power stone?
>How does the new asgard have such a good army shown when doctor strange opens multiple portals?

Wanda wouldve killed him so he cried for planetary bombardment to kill everyone even his own army. Thanos was just annoyed by Marvel and eventually kicked her flat ass ezpz.Wanda shouldve been the face of "female" Avengers tbhq

apparently you don't know the answers either

>If doing the big Vanish Snap hurts you that much, why didn't it injure Thanos when he did it the first time in Infinity War?

It did. Watch the last scene of Infinity War.

>Why didn't any military get involved with the Thanos invasion? Are soldiers just not cool enough? Imagine how much more effective a fleet of tanks and missiles would be than a guy with a robot arm or a kid with a spider suit.
Lack of time when the final battle happened. They wouldn't involve the government with the time travel plot because the red tape would be insane, they didn't want to debate, risked everything to make things right.

>Who designed and made the Avengers time travel suits, time travel platform, etc? Tony Stark wasn't around. Do they have some factory and group of engineers behind the scenes we don't know about?
They looked like copies of Ant-Man's outfit. Also, who cares?

He literally had to use one of the stones because he couldn’t overpower her

She was crushing him

>How did Captain Marvel not only find Tony Stark in the depths of space without any communication, but also somehow towed his ship BY HAND a thousand light years back to Earth?
Awful part of the film. She's a Mary Sue and a Macguffin with a dyke haircut.

yeah and she immediately dropped out of the battle and the movie for the rest of it LOL

he could've overpowered her, he just chose the quicker and surefire way because he wanted to use the gauntlet asap and didn't wanna spend more time dealing with her

all she had to do is start the push really fast and just follow, no air resistance in space so the ship would not slow. but still retarded

here's proof of have sex still making you a dumb faggot/

>Why didn't any of the Avengers use the Infinity Stones to stop Thanos when they had them? Even if using all of them at once kills you, that doesn't mean you can't just use one or two. Fuck, just use the Time stone to rewind whatever you want it takes a second.
They didn't use the gauntlet twice cuz it almost killed the only guy who could have lived using it once. Couldn't use the stones after that cuz the attack happened pretty quick and they lost the gauntlet under the rubble. Then had a lot to deal with during the fight. They are human, for the most part.

Where the fuck did this have sex meme start from?

I hate how no cosmic entity was alerted by the numerous use of all 5 infinity stones. Like come the fuck on, where is Galactus? Eternity? The Tribunal?

>If doing the big Vanish Snap hurts you that much, why didn't it injure Thanos when he did it the first time in Infinity War?
Thanos is uber powerful. Which is why the Captain Marvel shit was so cringy. Destroying the gems almost killed him cuz as explained they are super important to the universe as a whole and bigger than the snap.

>Why didn't any military get involved with the Thanos invasion? Are soldiers just not cool enough? Imagine how much more effective a fleet of tanks and missiles would be than a guy with a robot arm or a kid with a spider suit.

Let's see how Ice Cube's son fares with Godzilla, then you'll see how useless they are.
Real question is why did Asgardian armies come out of the portal, they died in Ragnarok.

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>If Captain Marvel has enough force to just dive bomb through Thanos's entire mother ship, why can't she just dive bomb through Thanos?
Including her was dumb but feminists would have bitched. Also, then you wouldn't have a final battle of ultimate destiny.

ITT
>I'm gonna find any reason to hate capeshit because of normies reee
reminder that plotholes are not actual criticism

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>tfw alot of male characters got nerfed
>alof of female characters got buffed

YAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS SLAAAAAAAAAAY

Yep, I was let down that there were no cosmic abstracts in the film. Hoping GG3 uses them, with Thanos dead the universe needs rebalancing. Good excuse to bring in Lord Chaos and Master Order, or Infinity/Eternity. Warlock/Magus arc would work. Or a reality warper like Korvac/Beyonder.

I makes more sense that the stones just had to be in that reality the moment it was taken not the place it was that would mean like three Caps fighting each other

Or, you know, because they're based on children comic books and made for children and teenagers?

No. They are precisely that. They are criticizing a poorly-constructed story. That will never not be valid criticism.

The comic books are way, way smarter than this shit.

>cont'd
5.5:
A very rare few of people across the universe even understand how to make the stones function to their will as-is, and based on the statements of Dr. Strange and the intellectual aptitude he possesses, he likely already tried that, but found that it didn't work. Both Dr. Strange and even Thanos himself declare it an inevitability as a standing fact that can't be contested. The very substance of Thanos in some way has events hard-bound as such that in those other 14,000,604 outcomes of wildly different strategies, plans, ideas, attempts of killing thanos/assassinating thanos, tricking thanos, hiding from him, or whatever else happened in those millions and millions and millions of outcomes that they only delayed him from inevitably winning.

6. Look again at IW. It did injure him-even though he has a far higher resistance to the stones.

7. (infinity war) Nebula smashed into an unprepared Thanos going well over 200 MPH with a goddamn necrocraft and it didn't even leave a scratch, yet you're asking why she couldn't cannonball him. Furthermore, In endgame, Thanos eats a triple-threat of a Vibra-waveburst, Wasp blasts and what is most likely a fully-charged Unibeam from Shuri, Hope and Pepper respectively at the same time and it didn't even leave a scorch-mark... and Ultron couldn't say the same in AOU from vision/thor/tony triple-blasting...and that was a vibranium body. I mean to say... did you really ask this question?

8. I'll let "alternate-universe Me" answer that one:
9. Your last question is so poorly formed that you'll need to rephrase it in order to specify precisely what you're insinuating.

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He knew they would win, because his past self was there fighting

>unironically admittig you watch movies made for children
Evangelion was made for teenagers too and it had anti-escapist message.

before they do any of that, i'd rather they do the F4 justice and introduce Dr. Doom

I thought the shield was unbreakable?

>unironically admittig you watch movies made for children
Who gives a fuck? You just sound bitchy that people enjoy things.

better way to do the ending would be if he used the nanomachines from his suit triangle to make the glove --so he's not wearing the suit initially.
Then he could click his bare-hand to have the nanotech glove come off thanos and fly to him, where it builds into the ironman suit with the space gems on

then he says 'I'm ironman'

[it didn't do him any good in that last fight anyway, mjolnir took him out in one hit]

Nothing short of the Infinity Stones is supposed to be capable of breaking it. That’s yet another thing they fuck up trying to follow the rule of cool.

1. They had escape pods and Thor told them to go to Earth
2. The invasion was in wakanda
3. Pym tech. Rocket Scott and Hulk built them.
4. There was a few scenes cut that explains it. Captain Marvel could have gone to Earth first, learned from the Avengers that Tony was missing and went out to find him with something rocket could have given her to find the ship.
5. That wasn't their plan to use a few stones at a time retard.
6. It did, but not to the degree the second snap did.
7. She very well could have but she didn't. Irrelevant overall
8. He didn't
9. Will probably be explained by the russos or whoever on Twitter soon along with a lot of other questions. At least as well as they can. It was a movie after all some things just needed to happen regardless of how

Yeah I blame capeshit for lowering the standards even more. Hollywood is creatively bankrupt.

I thought cap didn’t age?

Get mad at other studios for trying to rip off Marvel then, not at the people who just want a good time in theaters.

Vibranium is nigh-indestructible for "human standards" when fabricated a certain way.

Keep in mind, Ultron knew better and made vision's body with the stuff, yet still got pierced by whatever weapon Corvus Glaive was using.

It's very safe to assume that the weapon thanos was using was made of the same material. As strong as thanos was, you'd have to imagine he could easily hack apart the shield the way he did.

Stop defending shit writing. If someone “copies” them while putting together a more interesting story, it’s not exactly copying, is it?

a capsicle doesn't age.
A thawed cap can.

He’s supposed to age very slowly, not Wolverine-tuer, but not far from it.

he doesn't have enough pym particles to keep jumping back in forth and go back to the past he wants to be

Unbreakable by Earth standards.

It's more than likely that Rocket had a tracking beacon for his own ship

The shield isn’t just Vibranium. It’s an alloy that no one’s ever successfully duplicated. It’s so fucking indestructible that adamantium was discovered just trying to reproduce it.

How do we know they weren't? They had a lot of shit to do in this movie. They couldn't answer shit like this.

There’s no good reason why they didn’t recall Carol Danvers for gathering back the infinity stones. Also, if Fat Thor stoke Past Thor’s hammer, doesn’t that need to be returned too or it will create a unforeseen consequences?

Captain Marvel threads. Brought on b

Just turn your brain off bro

Did you miss the part where it had already been built and tested before he showed up lol

Stop seething on the internet and go enjoy life.

If you didn't realize that time/dimensional travel is fucked up in the movie when they said 'lol nah bro, five seconds here is five years there' you deserve to be made fun of

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Explain

They should have. The gauntlet was fucking magical and was created for the specific purpose of being able to handle and harness the power of the stones. Cosmic magic that only this dwarf was able to create. Tony just making a glove shouldn't have been able to do what it did. But whatever. Not sure why they didn't go get him and bring him to Starks lab and have him help build it, at least that would have fixed the issue.

Stop acting like they didn’t have literally 22 movies to establish this shit, full 2/3 of which are pure filler.

the movie was made for 8 year olds

stop overthinking it

They retconned it into just something you love, not what you love most. Also I'm pretty sure they cut more out from that scene.

it charred Thanos too.
Purple Homer > Hulk
in terms of like everything

I’m not the one defending lazy-ass shit. It’s me who’s having fun here.

>If I see a situation pointed south, I can't ignore it. Sometimes I wish I could
>No, you don't
>No, I don't

>proceeds to abandon his teammates and hide with his waifu to the end of his days ignoring all the world's troubles he knows for certain are going to happen

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>Thor’s new hammer can summon the bifrost and he had five years to get them all set up on Midgard
>why didn’t the army go through magic portals because a man in a cape told them to
>tony stark was there, along with the hulk and space geniuses like nebula and rocket
>it took captain marvel 21 days to find them, probably just looked at the home planet of Thanos and then went to earth, saw a ship along the way. Character powered by the space stone could easily tow a ship, she’s considered the most powerful good guy right now
>it did hurt Thanos, watch it again
>Thanos is stronger than the ship’s metal
>they were always in the second timeline
>cap was there, he always got frozen and ice and then at the end of endgame he went back. There were two caps existing at the same time
You are literally too stupid for a kids movie, how does that feel?

Imagine being a tripfag who’s always the first to comment on a capeshit thread lol

The MCU shield isn't the 616 shield. Even then, 616 Thanos shattered cap's shield with an offhanded smack.

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How did Thanos and Nebula figure out how to use pym particles and transport the whole ship?

Cause he had the foresight to not try to fuck up the timeline more than he already had.
Either way there was another cap doing what he would've done regardless.

>How did the Asgardians get to Earth when their ship blew up?
Escape POD. This is spelled out loud.
>Why didn't any military get involved with the Thanos invasion? Are soldiers just not cool enough? Imagine how much more effective a fleet of tanks and missiles would be than a guy with a robot arm or a kid with a spider suit.
Not only every army, but every human institution was reduced to half. Also, THANOS appeared through a magical portal. How the fuck the armies of the world would know about this? Not even the avenger knew.
>Who designed and made the Avengers time travel suits, time travel platform, etc? Tony Stark wasn't around. Do they have some factory and group of engineers behind the scenes we don't know about?
They do have staff. Bruce Banner (arguably, only less inteligent the Richards) is there with them too.
>How did Captain Marvel not only find Tony Stark in the depths of space without any communication, but also somehow towed his ship BY HAND a thousand light years back to Earth?
She has access to far more developed Kree tecnology. She received her power from merging with the Tesseract - the Space Stone. It might be possible she bends time-space continuum, like a Star Trek Warp drive.
>Why didn't any of the Avengers use the Infinity Stones to stop Thanos when they had them? Even if using all of them at once kills you, that doesn't mean you can't just use one or two. Fuck, just use the Time stone to rewind whatever you want it takes a second
A normal human can't utilize the stone powers without dying. It took Quill - a half celestial - help from his friends to use the power stone. Also, the Time Stone requires studying in order to be used. See Dr. Strange trying to understand how it works in the montage with the apple. None of the heroes even know about Mystic arts.
>If doing the big Vanish Snap hurts you that much, why didn't it injure Thanos when he did it the first time in Infinity War?
He literally almost died.

Glad you're having fun, I am too.
Maybe we should go see Endgame together, bro? It's fun too.

With the gauntlet. That little set of panels illustrates a good ploy against Thanos that nearly worked. He wanted to beat on the little man the old-fashioned way, but when Cap was too agile for him, he used the Reality Stone to have the stone they were standing on literally grab him. Then he proceeded to whale away on his shield, taking a sadistic pleasure in breaking it. Then he paused to savor his death strike.

All according to keikaku.

The Surfer, one of the fastest beings in this or any other reality, streaked in to try to snatch the gauntlet. Sadly, Thanos’s enhanced spatial awareness from having the stones alerted him in time to yank his hand out of the way.

In the movies, we get a retard poking a sleeping/entranced Thanos in the face with a laser blaster while no one does a fucking thing to stop him. Masterful writing, that.

I wonder how would Peggy look on the whole situation.
>So, Steve, there's something fishy going on at my work, in SHIELD. Do you happen to know if maybe we were infiltrated by the enemy spies?
>Sorry, can't tell you because it'll fuck up the timeline
That whole ending destroyed the logic of timetravel.

Yep, remember when the collectors slave touched it and she exploded?

No thanks. I don’t consider it fun having my intelligence insulted. Neither should you. Literal children’s stories are better written than this.

They do that sort of thing all the time. Hell, they even put Fortnite in the movie while there's an event inspired by these very movies going on in that game right now.

I personally have no problems with depressed alcoholic fat Thor. But using that as comic relief is really stupid. Especially the scenes where he rambles about Jane like a fucking clown

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The only bitching point OP really has is probably Marvel dive bombing Thanos and killing him.

>If Captain Marvel has enough force to just dive bomb through Thanos's entire mother ship, why can't she just dive bomb through Thanos?
To Avoid colateral damage to the heroes. The ship was high in the air. Even if they coordinated an attack, Thanos could just a easily dodge her or avoid her the same way the heroes would.
>The movie states MANY TIMES that going back in time does not change the future, only the future of the timeline you traveled to. So then how does Captain America manage to come back to his original timeline after he missed his window to come back?
This Steve Rodgers can be one from the future - not necessaraly the past. Bruce Banner clearly states "He passed through his time mark", when he fails to show up. When Hulk, Sam and Bucky got there with Present Steve, Old Steve was already there sitting in the bench the whole time. This is also why Steve didn't say a thing about his wife - to not fuck with timelines.
>How is Old Captain America still alive if he chose to lead a normal life and not fight as Captain America during all those Earth invasion plots? He and everyone else would have been dead without his Avenger involvement.
The Movie estabilishes that is not wise to fuck up with events during time travel, even if you don't like them - Thor's Mother, for instance.

There's nothing wrong with Thanos's flesh being more durable than the ship's metal

>Also, the Time Stone requires studying in order to be used
Thanos didn't need any studying

I'm guessing after years of seeing Iron Man, Cap and other superheroes and monsters throw cars at each other, the military was probably "yeah, fuck this shit" and deal with regular human problems.

> Hurr durr my adult movies
Lmao @ your lonely life

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Watch the movie again retard
Cap brought the hammer with him along with the stones to the past

"You are not the only one cursed with knowledge"

Dr. Strange probably knew about the stone more than Thanos, but Thanos knew enough to operate it.

>If doing the big Vanish Snap hurts you that much, why didn't it injure Thanos when he did it the first time in Infinity War?

He could take the damage of the first snap, the second one is the one that fucked him up

Stop questioning the jewish writers. They know the boomers and zoomers audience will pay for a movie where the plot doesn't make any fucking sense, just bunch together a big number of superheroes and billions will rain in.

They barely had any issue finding the stones themselves. Mary Sue wouldn't have helped much anyways, since they never fought any battles in the past, and it was basically a Heist Movie.

Also, how could you miss Steve holding the hammer while he goes back?

You can see Thanos's shoulder is fucked up after the snap, along with the gauntlet

Who said he didn't? Getting the stones together was his life's ambition. Presumably, he's done a ton of research on how they're all supposed to work before he put the main plan to actually gathering them together in motion. All his prep wouldn't have meant shit if he accidentally blew himself up as soon as he got them or trap himself between timelines or whatever.

>Also, if Fat Thor stoke Past Thor’s hammer, doesn’t that need to be returned too or it will create a unforeseen consequences?
Cap brought that with him, too.

Future Nebula's memories. She was around for a lot of the prep work, since she's also intelligent enough to help the science bros out. And since Thanos' crew is WAY more advanced than anything on Earth, it wouldn't have been that difficult for them to reverse engineer it from whatever was left in the vial Future Nebula had on her when she was captured. Also they would have had access to a suit via Future Nebula's capture, as well.

The Gems also seem to be way more powerful and reliable than the Stones. While Thanos almost kills himself doing the huge dieback in the movie, in the comics it's a casual action, and 616 Thanos probably didn't even need to actually snap his fingers to do it, he was just being dramatic to show off.

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There was 2 caps existing in that timeline, one is the one we seen fighting our cap and one is our cap. The thing that broke the plot is why can cap meet with peggy in the first place when bruce just explained that it impossible to change the timeline since it was already happened

How do Tony Stark and Steve Rogers just walk into a top secret military base at the height of the cold war and just fucking steal the most awesome super secret weapon thingy in the US arsenal ever?

>She was around for a lot of the prep work, since she's also intelligent enough to help the science bros out.
Damn, ok, you are right. Should have watched it sober

>Why didn't any military get involved with the Thanos invasion? Are soldiers just not cool enough? Imagine how much more effective a fleet of tanks and missiles would be than a guy with a robot arm or a kid with a spider suit.

In-universe explanation, they (along with the government) cut ties with the avenger so they wont know what they are dealing with, and so vice versa. Also they got cut in half so I recon they were stretched way too thin securing srategic position and maintaining civil order

Real life explanation. The pentagon dissaproves MCU potrayal of the army that seems to bow down to S.H.I.E.L.D since the MCU didnt bother explaining is shield our organization or the UN. They think it would give bad reps if our military shown to bow down and receives command from the UN

>The thing that broke the plot is why can cap meet with peggy in the first place when bruce just explained that it impossible to change the timeline since it was already happened
I completely agree with you. All to do to make sense of this ending was to show that Cap lived the rest of his life with Peggy in another universe/timeline. Instead they broke their own rules

Hulk was wounded from his snap as well as holding up all that shit. This MCUs hulk is weak as fuck.

so you aren't willing to think for yourself and what he said was true. Okay then.

my response was to make a point. The way user postured the initial question pressed it as if to imply "indestructible and that is the final word."

I merely made a point to explore precedent.

Honestly, the whole MCU seems quite a bit weaker than the comics overall. Which is fine, honestly. Keeping things a tiny bit more grounded for major feature films compared to how crazy and over the top comics get is probably the right move, even though I would have fucking loved to see a scene like this in a movie.

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>The pentagon dissaproves MCU potrayal of the army that seems to bow down to S.H.I.E.L.D since the MCU didnt bother explaining is shield our organization or the UN. They think it would give bad reps if our military shown to bow down and receives command from the UN
What? MCU armies are commanded by their goverments. SHIELD is kinda an intelligence organization commanded by "world counsel' whatever it means. My main gripe with this is that shield has access to their own nukes

Why did Thanos with the gauntlet seems weaker than Thanos with only dual sword? I am just confused when I see 2014 Thanos able to tanking Thor with both the hammer and stormbreaker eventhough in the previous movie we seen him jobbing hard againts it. Also why did Hulk, Thor and Iron man seems to receive major nerf in this one? Iron man able to hold on his own againts gauntlet weilding thanos but he too, like thor, jobs hard againts normal thanos with anime sword

One thing that makes it really obvious that Thanos was acting heroically was that when he snapped, he could have easily wiped out all the Avengers and everyone who stood in his way and killed his loyal men. But he doesn’t. He applies the snap fairly, to everyone. Ultimately this is his downfall. It’s really sad.

Everyone in this thread needs to have sex right now, a part from me I always have loads of sex, and stop arguing about some disney bullshit kids film. HAVE SEX NOW.

Endgame Thor is obviously out of shape. Hulk is weaker because he can't get as angry as before. Completely agree with you on Iron Man though. Probably didn't want him to be too strong because Cap would look even weaker in that case.
Honestly, I wish Cap would have a longer fight against Thanos. His combos were sick. I know, I sound like onions, but that was the only scene of the movie that got me genuenly excited

hulk does show up at the end during the avengers assemble bit but I'm pretty sure that's the last time you see him in the whole movie basically

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>The movie states MANY TIMES that going back in time does not change the future, only the future of the timeline you traveled to. So then how does Captain America manage to come back to his original timeline after he missed his window to come back?
Absolute brainlet. The explanation, like it or not, is in the movie. The only times a branch in time is created is when an Infinity Stone is removed from that point in time. Cap put back all the Infinity Stones, went back to the 40s without messing with the Stones, and lived his life in the background.

Yes. Considering that Tony's snap wipes out not only Thanos but his loyal followers as well. WELL THEY WERE ALL EVIL SO IT DOESN'T MATTER LOL

Well.....just like what I said it was a problem of miscommunication in the marvel studios part. The pentagon sees the script with nick fury giving orders from the world council to nuke new york and the pentagon sees it as an insult as their brave boys getting an order from a globalist negro. It just misunderstanding from pentagon that didnt know what shield Is and marvel who didnt bother with explanation.

This shit cost us a kino of modern army fighting againts savage xenos

> When you are retarded and have no leg to stand on so you just repeat your original remark

>I'm pretty sure that's the last time you see him in the whole movie basically

He shows up during the final battle, remarks that they need to get the stones back to the past and then shows up again at the funeral scene.

thanos had all the time in the world to figure out the tech. also do you really need the particles to do it? they were going back and forth with vans and buildings and stuff all during the ant man movies. are you telling me they use the particles every time?

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also the whole world just gained its population back so im sure it was at least for those first few hours a time of chaos and celebration the military would have been chaotic to begin with, besides the fact the avengers might even warn against sending any military if something like the base got attacked as that probably means its a threat only they could handle anyway.

Unironically, the UN had issues with Shield being portrayed as a military organisation that was decentralised and unnacountable. That is partially why they only supported Winter Soldier because it revealed that an decentralised and unnacountable military organisation might be corrupt - therefore showing them in a better light.

my question is how did they have life support on the way home? did she really get them home in less than a day?

>Honestly, I wish Cap would have a longer fight against Thanos. His combos were sick. I know, I sound like onions, but that was the only scene of the movie that got me genuenly excited

This, there should been more of cap and iron man jolly co-op combo. But instead, we got muh "girlpower" and captain africa. Its making me so upset since I think those shit /pol/ blabbering about muh propaganda, turned out to be true............oh and also this one is filled with pure contradiction as cap stayed with peggy and change the timeline despite bruce's and others statement

All they needed to do to win was simply avoid sending Nebula back in time.

he went back over and over again for more prime peggy pussy

Or just asking others that not tony to do the snap

how does thanos make sure he isn't in the 50% of life that dies?

Well in the comics he's not doing it out of some sort of ideal, he's just doing it to show off to Death. So he'd just make sure he isn't part of it. In the movies, he's a huge hypocrite who says it'd be random, but if you hear how he talks earlier in the movie about how he'll wake up to a grateful universe, he was clearly intending to make sure to exclude himself, as well.

This. Sending an alien who is the fucking adopted daughter of the main baddie is plain stupid. Doesn't matter if she's on the other side now. It's just a logical safety measure

Removing Nebula would have allowed War Machine to knock out Quill, gain the Power Stone and return without issue - thus avoiding the entire final battle

There was probably another actor who played lebowski

Or Stane just happened to look just like him. There are people in the world who just happen to bear striking resemblances to others on sheer coincidence.

>Its making me so upset since I think those shit /pol/ blabbering about muh propaganda, turned out to be true
Man, I feel the same way. I always didn't think I'll fall for the conspiracy theories but during the last few years it became really apparent
He wouldn't know how to open the door to the stone

have sex

>Don't send Nebula
>warmachine has no idea where to find the power stone
>warmachine takes too long to enter the temple because he's woried about traps and is thwarted by "WHO!?" man (apparently kree)
>warmarchine is killed by the lasers

>send nebula on another team, they wind up aggroing thanos and die

>dont send nebula at all
>warmachine somehow manages to get the power stone back in one piece
>thanos makes it back in another way
>gamorra doesn't change sides and fucks things up

>Don't send nebula at all
>thanos doesn't show up
>don't get Gamorra back at all
>quill comes back
>Quill fucks things up again because muh Gamorra

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>He wouldn't know how to open the door to the stone

He would have simply looked in Quill's bag and found anything that looks useful. Quill also demonstrated in Gotg that the walls are just normal stone and can be blasted apart so using fancy tech to open the door is pointless. Blast the wall, check for traps, blast the device holding the Power Stone, grab the Power Stone.

/pol/ is still full of shit. Falcon becoming the new Cap is a thing that had happened multiple times in the comics over the years. He's generally considered Cap's heir and has for a long time. This was a reference to that. And the VERY BRIEF "girl power" scene is a reference to A-Force. And even if it were a "conspiracy", it's just them reaching out to other markets, which an expanding media company needs to do to keep growing.

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If you want to play this game. How about the following scenarios?

> Iron Man uses suits 1-84 in final battle
> Doctor Strange actually gets everyone including Netflix heroes, Starhawk's team, Nova Corps, Agents Of Shield, etc...
> The heroes get the Gauntlet to Doctor Strange and/or give him the Time Stone

Strange still manipulates things so that Stark has to use the gauntlet, because fuck killing yourself if there's another guy with a beard to do it for you.

>The heroes get the Gauntlet to Doctor Strange and/or give him the Time Stone
Jesus you're right. They could just give him the gaunlet right after he came back from Titan and Thanos wouldn't have any chance to win

If Strange has the Time Stone, nobody would have to die. He could have trapped Thanos in an infinite loop like he did Dormammu. Even then he could have trapped them all in the mirror dimension so they could not hit the heroes.

He had it in the previous movie and yet he didn't.

Thanos had stones to defend himself in Infinity War, not the case in Endgame.

This. It's like Strange looked at all the scenarios and chose the one where he completely forgets his spells from his own movie and instead holds water for 10 minutes letting all the common soldiers and stark get killed

>why capeshit movies do not make sense, while comics do not either.
I wonder. Capeshit is really for subhumans

Thanos used the stones to break most of his spells including mirror dimension. His just a big guy without the stones

Reread his post, holy shit what is wrong with you?

Because in the film's world, Stane is Stane, not Jeff Bridges playing Stane.

Since Heimdall apparently didn't need to be at the Bifrost, or even Asgard, to teleport people, why didn't he just teleport Thanos and his little buttbuddies into a nearby star back in Infinity War? There was literally nothing stopping him. Oh yeah. Just send the Hulk to Earth because reasons.

yeah but Stane must've looked exactly like Jeff Bridges

The Bifrost magic exists to transport individuals between realms, not suns.

His hand burned when he pulled it out the gauntlet. Pay attention cunt.

They were already in our "realm" when he teleported the Hulk to Earth. If they weren't, the Guardians would have never found their wreckage.

Concerning the ending...

So, did Steve go back in time to a tune where not only was he able to put the stone back but also his part self existed?

OK. So what did he do? Did he kill off his past self so he could "have a life"? Did he leave his past self frozen in ice... Forever? Did he go back to a time before he was born and stop past self from being born?

It was truly touching, his send off story... But (as many story beats did) it raised more questions than it generated joy.

That second point is bullshit because the us military has supported several marvel films since the first avengers movie

>tfw brain is too small to understand the time travel
>tfw don't understand a movie made for children

That's because they tried to cheat the "rules" of time travel. They tried to act like closed loops can exist in a multiverse scenario when, by definition, they can't.

This. I actually really enjoyed this movie and i dont see as many plot holes as everyone else but this is the thing that i cant find any way to make sense of.

Basically I see it like this

>Cap shows up at Peggy's house after taking care of all the gems and whatnot

>"Hey girl, I'm back to give you America's Dick. BUT! It's REALLY important that everyone thinks I'm still frozen. I can't explain why, but trust me, it's super, duper important."

>Cap creates a false new identity with Peggy's help in order to not fuck with things and lives life as a normal, if super-buff, guy.

See the third part of Since they kidnapped Future Nebula with her suit and particles intact, with their super advanced space tech it probably wouldn't have been too difficult to reverse engineer the suit to fit their ship, and to create more pym particles.

half their team just was murked, and she was one of the few who had general space knowledge. they weren't really working with a deep bench.

So is this nigga dead or what?

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Now my question was what would have been stopping Cap from grabbing an extra suit and particles and bringing Peggy to the future to grow old with? We know that someone from the past can come to this timeline because of Nebula's whole deal, and I feel like Peggy coming to the future would arguably make less of a timeline difference than Thanos' entire army jumping.

Since the Cap that was frozen is obviously still a thing, she already would have to come to terms with the whole time travel thing with Cap going back to her, right?

why can't they just replace ironman and widow with one from the past like what was done with gamora

Yes they used the particles every time. If they wanted to shrink/grow random objects they had to throw those disks at them which had the particles. And presumably their van and building had some device that used the particles on them whenever they pressed the button similar to ant man in the suit. If thanos was somehow able to reverse engineer the pym particles to make more then there should had been at least one line acknowledging that it was their plan, then i could buy it. But as it stands the movie has no explanation. We are left to make our own head cannons

He dies at the beginning of Infinity War.

BUT he does get the Tesseract in one of the time heist sequences and escapes, so maybe he'll come around later on?

I think it was literally just because this was prime Thanos vs. 5 years out of practice Thor, Cap, and Iron Man

Cap probably wanted to live in his own time. Even though he's had a decade to get used to the current world, he probably always felt like he didn't belong.

I'd say "probably". Since they went even further back to get the space stone, it likely undid that change. But even if it didn't, I assume that'd be something Cap would have double checked while he was putting the Mind Stone back where it was supposed to be.

Do we even know the fate of Past Gamora, though? The last time we see her is when she knees Star Lord in the nuts, and I don't think we saw her on the ship with the other Guardians. I guess GotG3 will address what actually happened with her.

Also I assumed the reason why Widow is super-extra dead is because her death created the Soul Stone that was currently in use, meaning she has to stay dead. As opposed to Gamora, whose soul stone doesn't exist anymore.

Because he chose to stay. It doesn't force you back, didn't you see Nebula get interrupted when she tried to return? Then old-nebula used it to come back instead. You return to the same point in timespace no matter when you leave, be it 5mins or 5days or 5years.

no

he's one of their most popular characters, the only villain besides thanos (who is definitely dead) with an ounce of charisma, at this point him not actually being dead has been well-established as a running joke, they deliberately designed the endgame plot to give him an out, and both his fellow AU-dweller gamora and his brother are being set up to appear in GOTG3

i think him actually being dead is about as likely as tony coming back

>.t

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How long do you think it was between Tony's funeral and Peter's return to school, and why do I feel as though it wouldn't just go back to normal school for a while. Especially seeing as some kids would have aged 5 years during the movie and others snapped and missed 5 years of history. Did they just pick up where they left off when everyone reappeared?

>Doctor Strange actually gets LITERALLY everyone, merges the universes together
>Wanda discovers her old brother wasn't really her brother, her father is Gandalf, she's actually a mutant
>Battle progresses, somehow Thanos reclaims the stones, about to snap
>Wanda loses it, House of M
>We get the movie we deserve instead of the absolute garbage we got

you're retarded to the core. That doesn't explain at all how the timeline is fixed when past Thanos was dusted, thus massively changing the outcome of GOTG 1.

This cap can't be MCU cap. Has to be from another timeline. Assuming all rules remain unbroken.
They dictated rules and broke them. The children will think it's fine because they only recall 15 minutes of movie at a time.

Pretty much spot on. Thor has joined the Guardians so Loki is guaranteed to show up at some point in 3 or 4 at the absolute latest.

I'm gonna miss Tony though. Robert Downey Jr was the perfect actor to play him and like anyone besides Mark Hamill voicing the Joker, it just won't be the same if anyone else ever does. At least this way with him being canonically dead we don't have to worry about that. Plus, where the fuck else can the Iron Man movies go at this point?

You're retarded to the core. Bucky had took the mantle of Captain America way before Falconigger and his Captain America comic run bombed to shit because nobody wants to see Captain Nignogrica.
>which an expanding media company needs to do to keep growing.
Tell that to Star Wars.

Different timelines. Still happened in one, didn't happen in the one where Thanos left.
Can't you faggots just suspend your disbelief and enjoy a goddamn movie for once in your lives instead of nitpicking every detail you can find? No wonder the world's going to shit, you've forgotten how to enjoy the little things and not overthink shit.

He only gets dusted in our time. When all the stones get put back, the flow of time is fixed and the past proceeds as it always did, other than Steve staying behind. Think of Thanos and his crew like someone copied them into our time. You'd still have to fight them, since just going into the past and fixing things to return to how they were won't unmake the decision for them to jump into the future, but after Steve put all the stones back, the events that led to past Thanos finding out about the time heist plan and all that never happen in the proper history.

>May 1999
There have also been quite a few alternate universes where Falcon became Cap. As for why not Bucky in the movie? He seems like he just wants to get away from all this soldier shit for good and live out his life on a farm in Wakanda at this point. Understandably so.

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