Antagonist is evil because... he's evil

Maggoty bread

What vile magic is this

>tfw no scene where sunset finds Sam squatting in Mordor, groaning. Every rancid lembas shit looser than the one before, and fouler. By the time the moon came up, he'd be shitting pipeweed-brown water. The nazgul sleeps, and Sam shits, but the more he shits, the hungrier he grows.

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Tolkien wasn't happy with the way he wrote Orcs as being just born evil because it goes against his Christian faith
He died before he could rewrite them to be redeemable htough

B-B-BUT MUH SILMARILLION

Very few, actually, most people feel justified in their actions. At least Hitler had a motive.

he's evil because he wants to take over the world.sauron wants world domination and those who oppose him are called the free peoples.
its literally
>liberty=good
>authoritarianism=bad

I would argue someone like Pol Pot was way more "evil" than Hitler

he had motivation too

Elaborate.

Not really. Pot only really targeted his own people. Hitler went for everyone.

doesn't he just want to pursue morgoth's plan or something

They imported food from the east, which had fertile steppes.

No. Morgoth wanted to essentially destroy everything and start again. Sauron just wants to be king of all.

Actually, no. He's evil because he's angry at the preferential treatment that humans got from God.

>white people are evil because.... they're white

Based and true

>white
>people

Read The Last Ringbearer for likeable orcs. It's pretty short and not terrible, at least in comparison to LotR which is also not fantastically written.

>finds out his gf cucked him
>only thing he knows is that the guy was an intellectual with glasses
the rest is history

Actually, no. He's evil because the black death caused Christian Europe to reinterpret the Devil's role in the world. Up until that point the Devil was seen as a servant of God to test humanity. However, the plague was such a shock and experience to Europe that they began to believe that maybe God had given the Devil far more power and agency in the human realm than originally thought. This then mutated into the Devil actively opposing and working against God.

>austrian artists submits his paintings to the academy of art
>the only thing he knows is that the professor who rejected them was Jewish

Kino

And God's evil because he purposefully made the angels love the shit out of him knowing full well, seeing how he's God and knows everything, his angel Satan would rise up against this because his love for God would make him jealous of humanity.

T. Christian lorelets basing their misinterpretation of religious doctrine off of bad fanfiction

What the fuck? the devil has been evil from the beginning in Christianity. Satan as a servant of God only exists in Judaism. Do you also think the Book of Revelations was written after the Black Death in Europe?

Sauron is evil because he was the lieutenant of Middle Earths equivalent to the devil who created evil itself.

So yes he is evil because he is evil because he is a loyal servant to his master who created evil itself.

And yes Sauron did have a tax policy.

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Book of Genesis was written before Judaism was a thing.

Before Rabbinical Judaism was a thing, but clearly not before Judaism was a thing...

Each other

Not even canon, user

It dates back before that, to their days of slavery under the Sumerians

Jews, in slavery to ancient Sumerians? What the fuck? Is that what they teach in American schools?

Their ancestors m8. Once Sumer fell, tribes spread-out through the region and established the more modern "races" of the area. The ancient jews took/adopted/appropriated elements of the Sumer religion and added it to their own as did others, but Judaism is the one that survived and went on to influence other religions.

>sauron is evil because hes evil
Imagine thinking this, hes evil because he made multiple decisions and did multiple things that are universally accepted as evil

That makes it way worse dude.

This is not how it went down, at all. Sumerians weren't Semitic, they were an isolated group. Eventually, they were absorbed by Eastern Semitic people, Assyrians, who absorbed their culture. Ancient proto-Jews were Western Semitic people who inhabited the Canaan region (modern Israel, Syria and Lebanon) and followed traditional Canaanite paganism. Yahweh and Asherah were their chief deities, with a number of lesser deities. Ancient Assyrians conquered Canaan for a some time, and then their empire collapsed. Around that time, Yahweh also became the sole remaining Jewish god. This happened in the 7th century BC. Nobody knows when the Book of Genesis was written, but it was no earlier than the 6th century BC. I wish Americans stopped posting.

With the new trend of making evil characters relateble i find genericly evil characters refreshing

This is what the burgers tell each other when they carpet bomb the Middle East.

If the President of the United States carpet bombed his own people that would be worse.

Epic of Gilgamesh m8.

There's a bunch of places I'd carpet bomb if I were the President.

pic related is pure evil and a great character too
what now ?

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How does Gilgamesh figure into it at all?

Why are you so evil though?

>protagonist lets villain go on a five-minute monologue about nothing really even in particular other than the guy just saying he sucks and won't win

It's evil not to bomb these places.

Non-essential humanoid legs, maggoty bread, and beast (warg/horse/etc.) meat.

DID DYO JUSSSS CRITISIRFSE LOTR THE ODNE THINGD YOURE.NOT ALLOERD TK CTITIXZIES

Same stories as in the book of genesis.

It depends. What's on the menu?

>MONDAY: BRAISED HOBBIT WITH SEASONAL ROOT VEGETABLES
>TUESDAY: LEG OF MAN
>WEDNESDAY: GENERAL SAURON'S CHICKEN
>THURSDAY: PULLED ELF SANDWICHES
>FRIDAY: MAGGOTY BREAD
>SATURDAY: MAGGOTY BREAD
>SUNDAY: MAGGOTY BREAD

>evil

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What is I told you that tribes in South Africa have essentially the Tower of Babel story?

This never fucking happened lmao, neither did the Egyptian shit

I'd find that interesting and ask to know more

>>WEDNESDAY: GENERAL SAURON'S CHICKEN
hearty chuckle

Contempt and hate for ones own people and nation is the most reprehensible

You have to love and respect your own before you can do the same for anyone else

Explain

Why should I be moral Yea Forums?

Since you are all smarty pants.

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Ghana:
>People decided to get to the God's abode in the sky and began building a tower from pots. Once they ran out of pots, an old man suggested to take the lowest pot from the tower and put it on top. The tower came crushing down, and the people were so scared that they began speaking different languages
India:
>People decided to build a tower to reach the moon and make it shine brighter. The tower grew so tall that the people on its different tiers developed different languages and customs. Once the tower grew near to the moon, the spirit who lived there sent a hurricane that toppled the tower and scattered the people across the land.
Native Americans:
>People began building a tower from rocs to reach the sky. A wind blew and scattered the rocks, toppling the tower, but the people attempted it again. On their first attempt, the rocks fell onto their heads, making them speak in different languages.
I could go on. The point is that folklorical plots are much more ancient than any religion and exist all over the world in similar forms.

>first
fourth

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The african one is downright retarded holy shit

Most evil people have normal upbringings yet end up as pieces of shit like serial killers for example.

Why? I find it quite humorous.

Whatever they want.

because God says so

You'll never guess what will traumatise a person's mind. The human mind is a complete enigma and psychology is barely better than a pseudoscience explains why women are so attracted to it

Whatever is on the menu

I expect more from folklore tales than a Laurel & Hardy sketch

>read this le ebin postmodern fanfic written by some russian shitposter
Yeah no.

You expect wrong. These tales were told for entertainment before Western douchebags in turtleneck sweaters began searching for deepest meaning in them.

You haven't read much creation myths and legends then. Even half of european stories (celtic, germanic, slavic etc) about the origin of stuff sounds like a Benny Hill sketch.

You're talking like LotR is not a conservative catholic's wish fulfilment fanfic in the first place.

I wonder how many people on Yea Forums think that Thor is a mostly accurate rendition of Germanic mythology.

You're using the word "fanfic" in a derogatory and metaphorical fashion, while The Last Ringbearer is actualy literal, unironic fan fiction. It's baby's first postmodern historiographic metafiction. Begone Yea Forumslet.

> his own people

His own people rallied with him, though, from the North of Cambodia, against the degenerates at the cities, who sucked french (IIRC) cock.

The real answer is that not all of Mordor was all shitty like that, just the Plateau of Gorgoroth (which is the only place the hobbits go). The Sea of Nurn was a salt sea, so Nirn was one big drainage basin. The surrounding area was green and lush. It's where the animals were from that Sauron corrupted into wargs/ fell beasts/ those things that carried Grond. By the end of the third age, Nirn was a fairly well-developed rural region farmed by lower-caste orcs and slaves. I read a really well researched theory once that Nirn is where the Entwives went away to, and when Sauron came into power he enslaved them there

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>tfw some anecdote about soviet leaders will be basis for space gay communism religion in the future.

Fanfiction can be better than the source material.

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>big bad guy is gonna ruin the world with his uhh...bad singing?

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I'm reading the Wikipedia pages about this and it somehow manages to sound more autistic than that MLP Fallout fan fiction.

>Unlike J. K. Rowling's original books, in which the orphaned Harry Potter is raised by the abusive Dursley family, HPMOR Harry's aunt Petunia marries Oxford University Professor Michael Verres-Evans, and Harry is homeschooled by his parents in science and rational thinking before learning about magic and traveling to the wizarding school Hogwarts.[4]

>at Hogwarts, this alternate universe Harry first attempts to apply the scientific method to the study of magic.

If you want a good fantasy pulp about rational magic, Mieville's Perdido Street Station might interest you.

No, I hate grimderp. Also I've read it.

>africans built tower of babel out of flower pots
>they think playing jenga is a good idea
>it fucking falls over

Why am I not surprised the africans came up with this one

Come on who doesn't love a bit of self deprecating humor