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Scaruffi is a hack

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Just because you don't know anything about music doesn't mean there's nothing objective to critique it on you brainlets

Film is a better medium that standalone music. Prove me wrong. Film scores are great, but films are better than albums on average. In other words, music is mostly fucking trash. I hate music.

Of course there is music theory but why would it matter if every musician follows it. It all just comes down to taste after the technical skills are established.

What disease does this guy have?

Sup viewers Sneedthany Feedtano

i would rather have a giant birthmark across my cheeks and chin than have facial hair like that. absolutely disgusting

Seriously. Before you hit that post button just try changing music with film and see if it doesn’t make sense. You’re being willfully ignorant.

Baiting this fucken hard.

I think anyone who gives rap music a positive review doesn’t have a valid opinion on any kind of music

video game critics must be the lowest of the low

I'm actually serious. I used to love music, but recently it's become increasingly difficult for me to find albums and even single songs that I can just listen to and enjoy. Film is better, and the music that's made for films is top-tier music.

Music. Both can be incredibly arrogant but music critics just have something that really makes them unbearable. I think its because movies are relatively young and music has been around for centuries.

Film has more dimensions than music.

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If you're ever in a musical rut, go back to where it all began. I'm 100% serious.

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>listening to booga booga jungle bunny (((music)))
disgusting

music for thinking people think there actually movie caliber reviewers its sad at least some know there jokes and are light hearted fantano not being on of them

This does nothing for me, but I listen to a lot of old R&B, Soul, Funk, and Motown and even that's growing old to me. Thank you though. I Appreciate it.

>music critics just have something that really makes them unbearable
i think it's the fact that such a small amount of them play music and they have no understanding of how it works.
i know most film critics don't make films either, but music is a much more abstract art form
i think a film is easier to understand since a movie is basically a story

>t. illiterate music reviewer

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>music that's made for films is top-tier music.
Literally all sound the same. Hollywood ost are all soulless.

The value of art depends on the values of the art critic.
Most art is born as imitation, not innovation.
The critic, not the artist, is the one who defines innovation, and rates it.
The artist is merely a vehicle for the aesthetic/ideology of the critic.
The critic is the real artist.

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One of those dimensions being soundtrack, which is music, which has to fit the tone of the movie, which is objective so can be critiqued.

"Gentlemen, I have in my hand surveillance footage that, if released, will end not only Anthony Fantano's career but his life."

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Completely wrong. Nice surface level philosophy; graduate high school first, newfag.

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Do you mean contemporarily or for all of Hollywood's history? They've pumped out some great scores IMO.

Scaruffi is THE tastemaker. He's pretty much the Almond White of music

>soulless
the concept of a soul is a social construct
it's not real and your opinion stinks man

Music is entirely subjective. You can claim that there are objective aspects to music all you want but then you still have pseuds like fantano who try to legitimize 'music' that follows none of the music theory, weird ass droning sounds with no recognizable structure, nogs mumbling unintelligible nonsense over generic background instrumentals or shit that is intentionally recorded poorly that sounds like shit but it's okay because it was supposed to sound like shit.
If you like that kind of thing that's great but you can't claim to be a music critic when there is nothing to critique since its value is entirely determined by taste.

>blacks were oppressed
>blacks were also given access to studios to record songs they were allowed to write with instruments that require lessons to learn which they must have been given so they can sing about generic everday life problems like having trouble with a gf who herself was given the right to choose whichever man she wanted.

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When I listen to stuff like this, it makes me sad seeing how far the black community has fallen musically. This was their way of expressing their culture's connection to the world. Now look at where they are.

The EXACT same thing can be said for film you fucking pleb. Do you think Hollywood is the only institution which has ever made film?

You’re right. You’d also be just as right if you were talking about film.

Everything is subjective. Doesn't mean you can't give your opinions on a certain medium. Also doesn't mean you have to care about what any reviewer thinks. Film critics hated Alita even though I loved it.

cant take him seriously after the score he gave on the billie eilish review

Fucken yikes.

You should've stopped when he rated MBDTF a 6.

Virtually all of the early blues musicians were self-taught or had very minimal musical training, which is why the blues structure is so simple. I'm not even kidding when I say that you could probably buy a guitar tomorrow and learn how to play a basic 12-bar blues.

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Not an argument.

Even if I were to write something meaningful you would not change your mind. If you enjoy film music that is on you.

>can't into music
>thinks everything is a debate
yep, he's autistic

What are you here for? Take a chance.
What is banter?

Music is so fucking bland as entertainment. I am honestly convinced that most hardcore music fans are actually more interested in the culture surrounding a particular genre than the music itself. Why else would they be so hung up on the fashion trends, behaviors and such associated with a particular music style?

In short, I agree. So much of it is about image.

Those are what you call posers. Real music listeners do not buy into all that shit. The reason for that is because most people need an image for them to get into the music, so labels have to not only pickup the talented artists but also the ones that have a trendy image.

>I am honestly convinced that most hardcore music fans are actually more interested in the culture surrounding a particular genre than the music itself
like how the cultural monopoly represented by the Marvel Cinematic Universe in its latest release, Avengers: Endgame, depends on geeked-up viewers telling themselves that they are having a major cultural experience?

Music critics, without a doubt.

With a few exceptions, critics try to engage with the medium they criticize as broadly as they can, and absorb/enjoy as much diverse content as possible. This versatility for a filmgoer is admirable, a reflection of open-mindedness and developed artistic sensibilities. Having a taste for different things in cinema is a positive.

This same quality, for a music enthusiast, is pathetic. Music, particularly pop music, has a social function as well as an artistic one. It provides social bonding, cohesion, identity, a way for people (above all young people) to situate themselves within a fragmented society. The deep appreciation someone feels for hip-hop, or metal, or country music is a reflection of their lifestyle. The places they visit, the music that plays in the clubs they go, what they talk to friends about, how they identify someone else as "one of their own". The appreciation they gain for that style is deep and, by definition, alien to those who don't share the same experiences. You don't get that going through a RYM list of best albums in a genre.

A chubby white guy trying to be "in touch" and enjoy as many different music styles as possible means they're having a wide but shallow interaction with culture. Trying to be a jazz guy and an alternative rock guy and a hip-hop guy and a reggae guy doesn't reflect genuine deep appreciation, but empty desperation. They come from a place of no-identity, of sheltered upbringing, where they don't feel personal connection with any style or subculture in particular. Normal people are not "eclectic" with music, they're protective of the music that represents something personal to them.

>Music is so fucking bland as entertainment
Because it was never meant to be commodified and sold as a product. Keep in mind how recent the development of music industry and recording technology is relative to human history. People have been expressing themselves through music for centuries, but it's only extremely recently that we've been able to record it.

Music is all about the image nowadays. Such a shallow form of entertainment

Food critics

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You could have just said that taste is subjective, which it is. Classical music is objectively more complex and requires more technique than popular music. You can easily say that therefore it's objectively better IF that is what you deem better, which comes down to taste.

>some people consider Death Grips music
>implying they ain't

Am I gonna have to throw someone into the pit

Dunno about music critiques as whole but if you're talking about pic related then there are very few betas as fucking pathetic and backtracking as him. Then again you can't blame the guy was so scared of losing his livelihood by being demonized that he went full 180 on virtue signaling.

>You could have just said that taste is subjective
That is essentially exactly what I said.

I once played a show with Anthony's band. Ask me (almost) anything.

Did you cover a Death Grips song?

yikes

You don't listen to reviewers to validate your taste.

>It provides social bonding, cohesion, identity, a way for people (above all young people) to situate themselves within a fragmented society.
I'd argue that pop music is hypersexualized, subversive, and actually encourages the opposite of everything you listed. The vast majority of popular music promotes a combination of nihilistic, hedonistic, sadistic and masochistic behaviors. There is nothing about being a good person and doing the right thing.

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That is in fact exactly what most people who follow reviewers do. If that wasn't the case then reviewers wouldn't exist in the first place

>Be conservative alt-right rat who shows it through obscure references in his early videos and second channel
>Raise the awareness of twitter activists after you interview Sam Hyde
>Some of your shit like tour gets cancelled, videos demonetized
>Realize you fucked up and being an edgy kid on the Internet when your whole paycheck comes from it isn't such a grand idea
>Become such a terrified soi consumerist that you start virtue signaling harder than late night shows constantly having to mention orange man bad mantra and attacking other conservative youtubers in your streams - same ones you've been dick sucking just few years ago

Seriously anyone who defends this balding faggot should be ashamed, mutts from /pol/ like Fantano are pure cringe.

That's like saying film is shallow because of the MCU and DCEU.

Everyone’s a movie critic these days. Nobody cares about being a music critic.

How can you understand what things mean, yet not understand how anything fucking works?

So all of them

Not really, obviously shitty movies exist just like shitty music exists. What I am saying is that movies have a lot more going on by definition since they have visuals, story and such. Music is inherently limited since it literally goes back to the stone age. The technology to tell stories in such a vivid way as a film did not exist until recently.

Sort of like the difference between listening to music and looking at a painting. Paintings are pretty and for a long time the central part of artistic culture but there is only so much enjoyment you can get out of looking at a picture. Just like there is only so much enjoyment you can get out of listening to something going bleep boop bang bang for 3 minutes.

No. They weren't out yet.

So you get music at all. Now we know.

>Music is inherently limited since it literally goes back to the stone age.
If you're talking about live instrumentation, then yes. But the way people listen to music now is so fundamentally different than anything humanity has experienced for centuries.

i love both of then equally, i love them and i love you and i love everyone in this thread, even the cunts.

>Music is inherently limited since it literally goes back to the stone age.
Rock music isn't literal "rock" music you mongoloid.

So? What is making the sounds is irrelevant. It's still ultimately just sounds.

Most here care about being a critic more than trying to enjoy that which they are supposed to be enjoying. Would bet serious money that most here don't even like television or movies.

DUDE MOVIES ARE JUST PICTURES. DUDE PAINTINGS ARE JUST COLORS ON A CANVAS. DUDE TV IS JUST PIXELS.

The music listening experience is not significantly different between standing in front of a musician playing a song and listening to a recording of that musician playing the song.

You realize that for most of human history, you couldn't just put in earbuds and listen to your favorite song. You actually had to go to a live venue to hear something and there was a strong possibility you would never hear anything like it ever again unless you knew how to play an instrument.

Needs to be reiterated:
Film > Music

And?

>movies aren't still frames moving at incredible speeds for your sake
I hate to tell you this, but you don't know how film works.

t. never been to a live show

>The music listening experience is not significantly different between standing in front of a musician playing a song and listening to a recording of that musician playing the song.
>Not significantly different

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Does anybody actually care about the "technicals" of music outside of "critics" or try-hards? Because most normal people only seem to give a shit enough about whether the song sounds good or not.

>music isnt just structured sound to please your ears and brain
I hate to tell you this, but you dont know how music works.

How was his band?

There isn't any difference. Music fans just love to overrate the live performance experience (aka, the tinnitus center).

His arguments was that he wanted listeners to try bringing listening to music to the forefront of their mind, instead of just mindlessly listening.

Of course, that's just his way to justify making these reviews for a living at the age of plus 30. His idea of taking music seriously is just using a series of words like "the instruments" or "the production on this thing". That may or may not make you think more deeply about music.

Personally I stopped watching him when he started going political and deleted his other joke channel to save his public image.

I think the reason you dislike music so much is due to overstimulation. There is so much music being pumped out that you don't know how to make sense of it.

That actual audio is literally identical. Any additional enjoyment you get out of seeing a live performance comes from something else. Being in a crowd, seeing famous people live etc.

This faggot is insufferable. I can handle a normie reviewer like Jeremy Jahns but this faggot right here needs to blow his brains out and fucking die already. Music is a bit more subjective then movies especially when a lot of people can relate to something basic like being the good guy in a tough world

I never claimed music was anything but sounds. You're the one claiming it's a magical force of nature just because you want to mystify it further.

music critics because music is objective. movies can be subjectively shit

>There’s really poorly filmed movies that some people still enjoy, like primer
>Primer
So I'm guessing you're the type of person who considers the absolute dogshit that villeneuve shits out is the best because they have great cinematography despite having 0 other redeeming factors.

>That actual audio is literally identical
Explain to me why live versions of albums sound different than studio versions.

>There’s really poorly filmed movies that some people still enjoy, like primer

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Sludgey drone instumental bass and drums

>magical force of nature
That is what art is at the end of the day for people who appreciate it. There is a reason it is hard to describe what a good painting, movie, or album does to you. It is an experience all on its own.

Assuming that is the case, so what? You could say the same thing about the difference between the first guy to kick a can down the road for fun vs playing video games. People started making and listening to music because it was enjoyable, not because it's some kind of spiritual experience. If something else that is more enjoyable comes around the old thing is going to look worse by comparison.

I'm sure if you starved yourself for a week you would enjoy eating a slice of bread a lot more than you usually would too.

wank yourself off a little harder there friend

Sorry you cant enjoy things user. Must suck.

You sound like a complete psuede faggot who can't justify what he likes beyond liking it. There is objectively good art.

I enjoy lots of things, including music and movies. I just don't worship them like some kind of god.

>People started making and listening to music because it was enjoyable, not because it's some kind of spiritual experience.
I guess that would explain why churches have never thought of installing organs. Music isn't spiritual, so why should they even bother with something like that?

>There is objectively good art
Never said there wasnt.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

People don't go to chuch to worship music, they go to worship their god

Why can't it be both? After all, God created music.

god created everything depending on your religion, so by that definition literally everything is spiritual, even taking a shit or rubbing one out to a futa doujin

he's a melon

Music reviewers are not like movie critics
You follow a music reviewer if they have similar tastes to you in order to get recommendations

You don't masturbate or take shits during a church service. However, you do partake in musical activities.

this

music critics are bound to sound like a know-it-all know nothing douche 10x more than a movie critic

Yeah people who analyze music on a university paper level are a special breed of faggot. Not ever kidding.

There's only so many notes a human being can not only produce but also perceive. There's nothing magical about it. I agree that the enjoyment comes from the performances, but that's about it. Everything else revolves in our objective world.

All entertainment is gay
I spend my evenings sitting in a chair in an empty room drinking water, and if that sounds 'boring' to you, then congratulations, your imagination has atrophied

HALF THE TIME COOL INSANE MUSIC BARELY FOLLOWS ANY MUSIC THEORY BULLSHIT YOU RETARD HAHAHAHAAHH KNOWING ABOUT "MUSIC" DOESNT MEAN SHIT

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