Was he fucking retarded? His sacrifice was pointless, they already had the battle won...

>get paid $50 million every time someone calls him "Iron Man"
>Wanted out

Yeah sure. I find it more believable that Disney wanted him out to shrink the size of the payroll.

T. Did not watch the movie

imagine paying money to watch your beloved superhero characters die
these superhero movie fans are an odd bunch

Did you even watch the movie?

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Just have him retire with his family and pass the iron man mantle on to Peter

It was retarded. They had already brought back all life.
Tony could have used one stone to defeat thanos. He could have just handed hulk the power stone and let him beat the fuck out of thanos.
But no it’s got to be super dramatic.
A happier ending was more deserved for Tony and RDJ. Thanks for carrying 10 years of MCU sure as shit Brie Larson ain’t going to get the same resumta

He already has more money than he can spend. He's drowning in it.

missed opportunity, the situation didn't fit with strange's premonition that it would be the only way , when it was clear that they could have won that fight and it wasn't the only way

if glove was stark's nanotech he should have been able to get it to fall apart

this would have been good desu, give hulk the powerstone and let him smash one last time

it's sad that hulk didn't get his moment

Why didn't they just ask Captain Marvel or Hulk grab the gauntlet and resurrect Tony right there? Thanos did this shit with Vision in Infinity War.

or thor, thor sticks it in his hammer or something.

Yea Forums is never going to be purged of retards like you, will it?

The glove wasn't nanotech though. It's clearly mechanical, which is readily shown to the audience when Hulk puts it on. Stark literally could've pulled the same move in IW, he just didn't think of it at the time. He's not even wearing a gauntlet when he snaps. The stones are just on his suit, and the nanotech forms slots for them in a totally makeshift way.

Stark's gauntlet was a flimsy glove Thanos could have easily snatched back, or the giant fucking army could have torn him limb from limb. More importantly it may not be entirely about keeping Thanos from the stones, since Strange signals Stark to do what he did. There were probably other scenarios like Maw ends up with the gauntlet or something.

Disney nuked all possibility by re-writing how time travel and alternative universes really work by claiming all stones need to be returned from where they came from or else the universe will de-stabilize.................but the thing is they came frm a hole in space during the big bang, so they never truely can be returned to where they came from. They did NOT originate in any place where they were taken

It was just a stupid plot device to justify cutting off all other possibilities while telling the audience to turn off their brains.

What part of this being the only reality they win did you not understand? If they did it any other way they would of lost again

that's the kind of thing I wanted to see and would really have taken the ending up a notch, they really needed to split up those stones and use them creatively on thanos instead of doing the click

> powerstone slots into the chest area of the ironman suit

the correct play would have been after stark took the stones from the gauntlet would be to destroy the gauntlet as a safety measure then just go to town on the thanos army

Nanomachines and a wizard made Tony's suit suddenly have the slots for the stones.

Find love trips

Strange told him it was the one, so he did what he had to win.

That's a stupid plot device. It basically tells you to switch your brain off and go with the script. So what? Tony basically died as a fatalist?

Yeah, it's stupid but it's a great argument to throw at all the butt hurt "what if, why not" babies

>we have to return the stones to the exact sme place and time we took them from, otherwise we alter the space and time continuum.
>what? Nebula from the past died on the future and future Nebula is still alive and well? LMAO turn your brain off you brainlet, let;s just have fun!!!

>He could have just handed hulk the power stone and let him beat the fuck out of thanos.
This is what should have happened. Tony's death was stupid and forced.

>Tony dies so Pepper can be Iron Girl
>Cap retires so Falcon can be Cap We Wuz
>Thor exhiles himself to deep space so black viking girl can be Thora

THE FUTURE IS FEMALE AND IT'S BEAUTIFUL!!!

go back to pol

Hulk will just magic some bullshit tech to time travel and save him. Don't worry.

all of it was stupid and dragged out
it did not need to be this long honestly
and these people do not even need to stay dead
when you're dealing with sacred relics of infinite power that could make you do whatever you want, you could do, whatever you want
it really felt like watching a play with forced events and not a sci-fi world with people doing realistic things with "un"realistic abilities

based discord tranny posters

He’s not wrong. They even had the shield’s star upside down.
Alright I’m out.

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It was the only way. Apparently, Tony dying was necessary. Strange knew this

I know Evans did, hence the sudden dropout at the end, didn't know Downy wanted as well

>Everyone I don't like is an Incel: A Discord Tranny's guide to life post-dilation

>Peter
lol

who would go to space?

Strange saw that timeline and it FAILED YOU RETARDS. This was the only way.

How was tony able to use the infinity gauntlet so easily when he is just a human? Hulk struggled to pull off the snap.

You mad

Have sex

Stark should have saved or uploaded himself as some sort of AI and became the new jarvis

retired from the team but not dead dead because that bus dumb

Captain marvel got btfo already though and was out of the fight. Nothing was standing between thanos and getting the stones back from Tony at that point.

That's why he died.

because he's not just a man, he's ironman, sheer strength of will

Because he had a full suit of nanomachine armor on. Hulk just had the little glove

Dr. Strange straight up told him "kys." That was the only possible way to do it.

nope, anything they did when they won would have been the one winning outcome that strange saw

Hulk could barely lift it up. I'm saying the power should have killed tony before he snapped his fingers.

>what is bad writing for 500

Because 1 stone cant undue the damage caused by all the stones

Ok guys can someone answer this for me?

Ok so 2014 Thanos comes into the future and is killed right? So what happened to the past if he's gone there? Doesn't that split the timelines?

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What I've always expected to happen, they even said rdj was done with being an MC but would still do guest spots

But they had all the stones...?

that means the strange in all the other timelines didn;t think to look into the future and see what to do, this one dr strange was the only on to do it

so on average he's actually not that bright at all, 14 million to one

You just mad because it covers all the bases.

He is almost 60 and rich why the fuck would he waste his time on capshit anymore.

brainlet here, so did old cap fight ironman in civil war?

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>Why risk Thanos getting the gauntlet again instead of just snapping him immediately?
because he doesn't want to die

"Turn off your brain dude lmao" is actually a legit argument in the case of capeshit movies. I'm not going to try and turn my brain off for movies that are based in reality or try and be serious take on something. Watching men and women in colorful outfits do pew pew is literally just meant to be dumb fun with some noteworthy serious moments.

the timelines are all fucked now
loki gets away in one of them with the teserract

we're just left to make up bullshit like they did with literally any other scenario

guess so
hope Cameron gives us hope

No. Returning the stones fixed the timeliens. Thats what was explained in the convo with ancient one

Seinfeld was offered $100 million to do one more season of his show, and he turned it down.

Some people know when to quit. RDJ was showing his age and knew it was time.

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And who else could use the stones without it killing them?

Which is why its the conclusion of Starks arc. He learned to not be selfish. To not put his own wishes before everyone elses.

so... in a way..... returning the stones actually killed way more people than thanos did since it erased entire timelines

How does returning the stone fix Thanos dying? The movie implies that returning them right to where they were stolen would just allow the regular course of history to take place, not bring people back from the dead and shit

Are you suggesting people who like comic book movies (seemingly everyone I know went to see this movie) are more likely to be virgins than people on /pol/?

No it just returned that timeline back to its normal pre stolen stones state

imagine

>timeline splits
> in this new timeline you end up getting rich and build a loving family
> then they return the powerstones

ooof

Hulk

trips of truth

desu the Iron Girl suit is way cooler with all the orbiting satellites and shit

The movie does not imply that actually. And apparently thats just how time travel works in the mcu

Most Nazis were tranny havent you seen the pics

> huh I dreamt i had a family, a wife, children. What a stange dream.

Except Hulk was already fucked up from using it the first time its reasonable to assume he wouldnt survive another use

His suit was busted after mjonir smashed into the center and short-circuited it

Why didn't Tony just use the Infinity Gauntlet to make himself invincible and then spam snaps doing whatever he wants?

Does anyone else feel like when he was incoherently drifting towards death he was looking at his family and friends like "why the fuck are you crying just get Hulk to snap me back to life" and then "oh god they're not thinking about it"

when they removed the stones it split the timeleines. The 2014 thanos was a different timeline thanos who was created when they took the powerstone and split the timeline.. when they returned the stones the timelines merged back together

the stone isn't gone for any actual time in the alternate timelines, they return them to the point where it was taken

how? why so frail all of a sudden?

>Avengers... Assemble!

I waited ten fucking years for this to finally happen on camera. It was kino.

>Moments away from Thanos snapping again and making all their time travel useless

yeah, weird... if the tesseract had the power on its own to make captain marvel invincible

surely tony could imbue himself with something similar using a small fraction of the power the gauntlet

>why so frail all of a sudden?
The last suit couldn't block a single punch from thanos
The hammer knocked him out and broke his suit

His army is 100% useless, Space Jesus destroyed the entire ship that brought them there with less effort than checking your watch.

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In the first Avengers movie, Thor isn't looking to kill IM just take him down, and as such doesn't throw it at him full power. In Endgame, he threw the hammer full tilt at Thanos but it hit Tony, thusly fucking up his armour. Also Thor had a big fucking powerup between Avengers 1 and Endgame.

Oh I get it, thanks user.

Ok so if using the guantlet fucked up hulk so bad, how could Thanos use it in infinity War and come out just fine?

Why the fuck were all the kids in Spiderman's school still the same age? Surely half of them would be 5 years older? Did I miss something or is everybody just okay with that?

[spoilers]Everything in all the Marvel movies happened. Cap then went back in time and presumably changed his name and got married. He lived his old cap life alongside the events of the movies probably just chilling at home. [/spoilers]

>Implying they couldn't have written an ending for his character without killing him
You just fly in from stupid town?

That was another thing that confused me as well. In Winter Soldier doesn't he see Peggy on her death bed? Why wasn't old Cap there then?

The gauntlet in IW tanked most of the damage because it was made by Dwarf autism. Tony's gauntlet is made of relatively fragile materiel and doesn't offer the same protection.

I don't know since I only recognised the one kid, whats to say half his class didn't already graduate

you dilate

Pretty hard to do considering I have a fully functional penor

Except it did fuck Thanos up and Thanos is stronger than the Hulk.

She only lost because Thanos literally used a stone

It's really weird but I THINK the idea was that time is always moving forward so you can't change what has already happened. You can't change the present by changing the past.
The only thing that creates alternate timelines is removing an infinity stone
Loki took one out of the timeline and his show will be in an alternate one. Basically...it's a "what if" story

The next movie they're all on a field trip. Everything is supposedly back to normal except Ant-man's daughter is still grown up for some reason? Time travel is always so fucking retarded

he doesn't want to get fucked over by thanos again even more

I didn't even watch the movie but I can just about imagine how stupid the scene must be.

She probably knew everything and purposly didn't tell him anything. She didn't die right at that exact moment (that I can remember). Maybe as a couple they knew Young Cap had to have that conversation so Old Cap stayed away.

>Power stone shown destroying an entire planet by just touching the ground.
>Captain Marvel takes a power stone punch to the face without so much as a bruise.

Maybe it'd make more sense if I bothered to watch the Captain Marvel movie?

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Except its not. Starks death is probably the best scene in the whole movie. Probably one of the best scenes in the entire MCU.

Thanos blasted a lot of people with the Power Stone in Infinity War and they didn't die.

I was talking about the first snap in IW, that one didn't hurt him at all, but the other anons post about the dwarven autism makes sense.

He lost the will to live.

captain america fucked her brain up with the mind stone, probably wiped her mind one too many times or used it to give her alzheimer's after he had his fill and left

it's actually pretty dark

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>could return everything to the state before the snap
>instead leaves the fucked up universe, torn families, tons of collateral damage, 5 years of misery and rebuilding only to have it fliped upside down again by returning the rest, just because by chance his waifu and daughter survived unlike for example hawkeye's who's had 5 miserable years without his family
>Tony's dad tells him "Individual objectives has rarely outweighed the greater good"

really makes you think

His arm was just as burnt out as the Hulk in IW.

Yeah I just saw that scene on YouTube. She obviously has the Alzheimer.

It definitely did fuck him up. His arm was toast after the first snap

>Tony zaps to space
>Thanos just sits there with a dumb look on his face

Fuck, Strange could have just teleported Tony to the other side of the universe instead of doing the stupid hand sign.

Do you think Scarlet, Chris and RDJ asked to be out? Or did they get written off

no it wasn't, when he's hanging out on that planet at the end of IW, he's totally fine. It's only at the start of endgame is his arm fucked up

Now I'm just imagining him like this while young cap is talking to her

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this, not to mention there was the whole 1 in 14 millionth scenario that doctor strange mentioned, which we can only assume that if tony flew off with the gauntlet, thanos would still somehow get it back

Maybe she means its been so long since she has seen young fresh faced Steve

Based and Gracepilled

youtu.be/6P2yGBIGgAA

No he got all burnt from the second snap, not the first one

You weren't this mad when Thor destroyed their ships with no effort in Infinity War

if he returned the last after his time with peggy, it makes the old cap thing make sense.

When he's with her it's still a different timeline, then he returns the stone and remerges the timelines.

it definitely would be the mind stone too, he probably turned her into a sex drone for 70 years and thats why she has alzheimers

>Stones are powerful enough to bring 50% of the universe back
>Can't bring Black Widow back

lmao wtf how did i not think about this?

like why did they snap everybody back to existence rather than just back in time? half of the planet going to have insane ptsd

They only way to for RDJ to get out was Tony dying, he's the main character of the MCU, it makes to sense for him to retire and never appear again in the movies. The Fast and Furious people had to do this when Paul Walker died and is awful, it makes no sense in-universe.

Tony looks a doctor strange before he steals the stones. Strange gives him the "1 chance" finger. What else do you think he could have been thinking knowing Thanos whole army was still going to have to be destroyed? Why take the risk of loosing anyone else? How was that forced. Your middle school fanfic idea is shit.

His arm was definitely fucked up. Not as bad as the hulks though. Which is probably why he could barely get two snaps off.

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Gay

>teleport thanos to the middle of the desert after the stones were taken from him and he's looking at the gauntlet in shock
> destroy his army in his absence using said stones
> finish off thanos at leisure. No ship, no army, no stones thanos

Losing. FUCK YOU

any way that they defeated thanos would have been the one chance that strange saw

Who was going to teleport him brainlet? Literally no one was standing between him and Tony after Tony stole the stones. If Stark doesnt snap there, whats stopping thanos from just taking them back from tony?

Thanos and his army without the stones is jobber tier considering you have Thor, Captain Marvel and Hulk there. Even if they lose a few people once Tony comes back they can still have all the time in thr world to figure out how to use the stones one last time to bring everyone back.

The dr strange prophecy shit is retarded with all the time travel and alt timelines bullshit anyway. As soon as you do that, any prophecy plot device stops being relevant

Strange did see every possible end to the battle, that was Stark destiny.

dr strange or any of the countless other magicians

remember when all the portals opened at the start of the battle? hell, you could just spam him with portals

This has nothing to do with time travel, my dude. Everyone that was snapped didn't age for the 5 years they were snapped. They didn't change it so the snap never happened.

Says who? The writers? In the context of the movie as it exist you fucking bozo.

They were all coincidentally snapped. It's implausible but it's the only explaination.

If she just leaves Earth with the gauntlet then Earth still gets destroyed by Thanos and his army.

whatever way they won would have been the way they would have had to have won

Forgot Tony had his legs and cement and couldn't just fly away.

Fuck if we are nitpicking, captain marvel could have just snapped thanos away when she had the glove. She surely would have survived at least one snap

My point is, the people who weren't snapped DID age 5 years. But they're all together on the field trip despite half of them strictly being like 16 and the other half being 21. We know we're still in a timeline where the snap happened because Stark has a daughter and Ant-man's daughter is grown up. It's such a completely retarded oversight that only comes up due to fucking around with time for the plot.

Would have been cooler if they had have split the six stones between the mainline Avengers and had them clean up the situation as a group.
Bonus points if it was just the female characters doing it.

Thanos was in much closer proximty to Stark (and the stones) than Strange was to either of them. So again nothing was stopping Thanos from just stomping Starks head in and getting the stones back. Furthermore even if Strange could do this. Why do you think Thanos would let it happen?

>But they're all together on the field trip despite half of them strictly being like 16 and the other half being 21.

All the ones on the field trip got snapped, maybe?

>Why risk Thanos getting the gauntlet again instead of just snapping him immediately
Like Captain Fungus should have done? Peter is just a kid and just got back I wouldn't expect him to do it.

this... the problem is that we're told stark doing it is the only way, but marvel has the gauntlet in her hand only moments before , how was her using it not a way?

Okay then replace nanotechnology with interactive. When he grabbed the gauntlet i don't think he plucked out the stones one by one, since HIS suit was nanotechnology it could just grab the stones from the gauntlet He created and assimilate them into his own suit. Since Stark made both I'm sure that was part of his plan.

It really did not feel like a scenario where "out of 14 million possible outcomes this is the only one that works".
Let's review Strange's plan. He sacrificed himself to save Stark, who would then invent time travel and use the power stones from the past to bring everyone back without any damage. That explains why he gave the Time Stone to Thanos.
But they could still do a lot when Thanos was attacking Earth. They clearly had the upper-hand. Thanos without the gauntlet would get btfo by Captain Marvel alone, and his army was weak as shit and could only kill filler allies. What was the point of Stark killing himself there? And how was that "the only scenario"? Literally anyone could take up the gauntlet and do the snap too. Including Doc himself.
And why couldn't he tell Stark that he needed to do the snap? How would that ruin it?
It was just very badly written.

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His suit was fucked up. Maybe it couldn't fly.

And are you sure about that? Nothing points to her being able to survive a snap

how would he stop it? he has no stones

strange could have mirror dimensioned him and this time he'd not be able to do anything about it, because no reality stone

You are a retard. There is specifically a scene in the movie of them rebuilding the glove with nanotech. Literally right before Hulk puts it on like you mentioned in your post. The movie is retarded, but you are even more retarded for not getting this. It's like misunderstanding a picture book.

How the fuck couldnt he? Thanos destroyed the mirror dimension in IW. Or maybe strange was too weak to use it again.

Hulk did.
She's weaker than Hulk now?

I know the whole 1 in 17million shit makes really low odds things a part of this but that's a horseshit cop-out. Even for a regular classroom of 24 kids, that's more unlikely than 1 in 17 million. Not to mention that even if you accept that that happened, I'm supposed to accept that months after literally half of the world being brought back from non-existence they're going to be doing field trips for schools again?

Maybe. Or maybe its not a power level thing. Hulk says he might be able to handle a snap because of the gamma radiation

Hulk doesn’t need a power stone to be stronger, he just needs to get angrier

he's just a physicality strong guy without the stones, how the fuck is he going to put up any defence at all against strange?

it would be like scarlet witch stomped him, only worse, and there's no ship to save him anymore

"I love you 3000"

Isn't her whole thing being able to absorb energy? Like I'm fairly certain they mention her being able to absorb the force of a nuke in some comic.

Why didnt they just hid the stones in the future?

>Even for a regular classroom of 24 kids, that's more unlikely than 1 in 17 million
Not it's not.
It's 1 in 16.777.216. So less than 1 in 17 million.

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why didnt scarlett witch resume her attack on thanos? she was fine, she got up after the missiles to do the girl power moment

The writers kept saying she stronger than Thanos. Also she almost fucked up 6 stones Thanos on her own.

If anyone legitimately thinks that the reason they weren't using the terminology "time travel" instead of "multiverse" or "parallel universes" is for any reason other than they now have the ability to go back and bring back "dead" characters, needs to check their heads. Its an obvious Mouse ploy that is underpinning the main reason a lot of the viewers are unhappy and pointing out alleged plotholes in the story. For lack of a better word, it is an asspull. And that's no so bad... but it is an asspull that has left ample opportunity for further asspulls... Mouse killed the stakes.

It wouldn't. Don't waste your time. Captain Marvel is basically Superman complete with all the inconsistent power levels whenever the plot demands it.

Why didn't he just wish for the enemy to turn to dust and that he not die?

Being the mouse's mascot is severely limiting to what roles he can play. He can't go into serious roles or dark roles since he's the star of a kids movies

is there one movie that has no time travel flaws?

He wants to quit capeshit and who can blame him?

Absorbing a nuke is different than absorbing the power of the infinity stones

>also almost fucked up 6 stones thanos on her own
>this meme again
No she fucking didnt. All she did was hold his hand open so he couldnt use the stones. Yeah she tanked a headbutt, but thats it. The second he was able to even use one stone she got BTFO.

he could have thought of some shit that might have worked, but we know it wouldn't work because strange checked all the realities and the only way to make it out is where tony dies

he could have tried some other shit but he saw strange looking at him and knew

Primer

Alright, let's say 25 kids then, whatever. My point is, we're talking scales of improbability that were so big that the whole film was based on the premise "this is the last chance and it's incredibly, incredibly slim"

time travel in dragon ball is straight forward because it's not actually time travel, it's dimension hopping

>stakes
Gamora being brought back is the main reason there's no stakes in my opinion.
She's removed from the past, but her absence don't change the main timeline (Quill still likes her etc.)

>Thanos, now that I have the infinity stones ill use just the time stone to stop time and stab you and your army in the necks

Then use it to have sex.

You are literally too stupid for capeshit

The gauntlet tanked most of the first snap, but I wrecked the gauntlet. Second snap wrecked Thanos. Tonys gauntlet couldn't tank a snap and wrecked the Hulk (meaning he could no longer dab on haters)

>ousting yourself as someone who hasnt watched the movie
GAMORA WASNT BROUGHT BACK YOU RETARD. THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE POINTING TO HER EXISTING IN THE PRESENT TIMELINE.

Did you forget Tony literally has a stone on his hand that can teleport him anywhere?

I just saw Captain Marvel and Endgame today.
Captain Marvel
>basically a $150+ million SyFy movie
>Danvers shoots the alien engine and absorbs powers and becomes the most powerful being in the universe...for some reason. I have no idea why she didn't die or why Jude Law didn't absorb some of that magic juice, too.
>the Kree HATE the Skrulls and want to wipe them all out...for some reason
>Ronan literally would have destroyed Earth just to wipe out two dozen Skrulls
Meh movie over all.
Avengers: Endgame
>starts with a timeskip so Tony can have a kid, Clint can become a serial killer, and Thor could become a fat drunk. By trying to pull heart strings by giving Tony a little girl, the entire MCU is fucked up. There's now a 5 year timeskip that future movies have to work around.
>Banner says the past can't be changed but Cap goes back 80 years and changes at least Peggy's life
>Thor steals his hammer from the past with no consequences
>Loki gets the Tesseract again with no consequences
>all the Infinity Stones are stolen from the past with no consequences, but Cap HAS to put them back for some reason.
>2014 Nebula brings 2014 Thanos and a gigantic army to 2023 with no consequences
>if Thanos, who is dead in 2023, can be brought from the past without any problems, why can't all the dead characters (e.g., Loki, Gamora, Vision, Black Widow, and Iron Man) be brought back from the past?
>2023 Nebula shoots 2014 Nebula and nothing happens...
(cont.)

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Can't they use the power glove to make them immune to taking damage from the power glove?

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Perhaps he doesnt know how to use it

Hulk brought back half of an entire universe. Tony snapped away maybe 200,000 monsters at most

The field trip in Far From Home could be a fake out.

>EVERYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS POL
lol

>But they're all together on the field trip despite half of them strictly being like 16 and the other half being 21
Well school was probably closed for those 5 years.

They tried to handwave all this shit with Balda Swindon and Hulk having a chat but it's dumb as shit. I know they're probably saying "don't think so much about it, it doesn't matter! haha we listed all the other confusing time travel films, you'd be dumb to waste time trying to make it make sense!" but that's just an excuse for dogshit writing tbqh

It's so funny that incels got so insecure about someone calling them out that they're trying to turn it into a meme

He wanted to get out of having to live with Pepper Potts

I mean if society ground to THAT much of a halt there are so many more problems

1) just everybody coming back is somehow going to need to be supplied for? Like that's a lot of mouths to suddenly need to be able to feed
2) an entire generation of brainlets who didn't learn shit for 5 years
3) mass mental illness from losing half of the world instantly, disproving all religions and causing mass nihilism
4) despite all this, schools re-open, unchanged from pre-snap, in under a year. cool

lmao

look at all the faggots in this thread

i watched ten minutes of this and walked out

literally the silliest shit i have ever seen in my life

i don't understand how the actors were able to get through this without cringing their guts out

to call this a film for children would be an insult to children. more like a film for retards masquerading as a film for children. get a life nerds, get laid and don't ever talk about this trash film on this board again.

shame, everything I do like is /pol/

except when the Asguardians of the Galaxy are literally swiping from holo-map to holo-map saying "hmmmm I wonder where my lil goblin waifu is... let's go find her... despite it not really being her". Yep other than that one GLARING INDICATOR there is nothing to suggest that hey

Dimension hopping is unironically the only way to do tine travel desu

>that one fight scene where all the girls are in shot for some GIRL POWER
>literally only captain marvel had her own film, the wasp gets .5 at most

that was the only fucking part of this shit i laughed out loud at

>the MCU movie from the first Avengers at least, should be affected by the time travel shenanigans, but nothing changes.
>Thor with Stormbreaker can defeat Thanos with The Infinity Gauntlet, but Thor with Stormbreaker and Mjolnir can't beat Thanos without the Infinity Gauntlet.
>Tony Stark literally kills himself for no reason at all. Nigga has unlimited power in his hands and he chooses to snap Thanos and his outnumbered and out-skilled army? I guess Tony's daughter is growing up without a dad now.
>Captain Mary Sue destroys Thanos's ship easily. Cheesy all-girl superhero shot for no reason other than a cheap pop.
>Gamora is still dead? Did the 2014 version disappear with Tony's snap, too? She wasn't at the funeral and couldn't be found by Star Lord.

I won't even get into the fact that all technology based superheroes are just magic now, or how Hawkeye and Rocket survived a missile barrage and a building collapse without a scratch.

Just bring all the dead good guys back from the past. There are no side effects, so might as well.

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>Like that's a lot of mouths to suddenly need to be able to feed
That's not a big issue since food sources (animals and crops) got snapped and unsnapped with them.
>despite all this, schools re-open, unchanged from pre-snap, in under a year. cool
Are you telling me you wouldn't want to bang a 16 yo legally on a field trip?

She exists, but she's the 2012 one. She ran off after the battle, Guardian's 3 is almost certainly going to be them trying to find her.

The baseball glove proves it retard.

>thanos about to get all the gems
>they already had the battle won.
is op fucking retarded?

Pretty much this. I've never understood why people try to tackle time travelling stories whilst not really being bothered to even think out the story they are tackling. Its so utterly lazy and almost always done for contrived reasons to write a scene that you almost otherwise wouldn't be able to write (i.e. Cap's happy ending).

>starts with a timeskip so Tony can have a kid, Clint can become a serial killer, and Thor could become a fat drunk. By trying to pull heart strings by giving Tony a little girl, the entire MCU is fucked up. There's now a 5 year timeskip that future movies have to work around.
How is the timeskip at all hard to work around?
>Banner says the past can't be changed but Cap goes back 80 years and changes at least Peggy's life
Banner didnt exactly know what he was talking about.
>Thor steals his hammer from the past with no consequences
The hammer isn't a stone. Plus once all the stones got returned (the hammer got returned as well) the timeline reverts back to its normal state
>Loki gets the Tesseract again with no consequences
One of two things. Either it created a divergent timeline which is what the Loki show will cover. Or that timeline reverted back to normal as well when the stones got returned
>all the Infinity Stones are stolen from the past with no consequences, but Cap HAS to put them back for some reason.
Oh so you havent actually watched the movie? It literally fucking explains this.
>2014 Nebula brings 2014 Thanos and a gigantic army to 2023 with no consequences
What consequences was there supposed to be?
>if Thanos, who is dead in 2023, can be brought from the past without any problems, why can't all the dead characters (e.g., Loki, Gamora, Vision, Black Widow, and Iron Man) be brought back from the past?
Except it wasnt problem free. If they remove someone from the past it could create timeline problems
>2023 Nebula shoots 2014 Nebula and nothing happens...
Changing the past doesnt change the future. Another thing mentioned in the movie. Fucking watch it. Plus her killing nebula didnt matter since cap returned the stones that divergent timeline with thanos in nebula reverted back to its normal state.

I'ma already cringing imagining all the reddit posts trying to explain away all the plotholes in this film.

Except for all the scenes with her in it.
If you mean she went back to the past, then how?

>the MCU movie from the first Avengers at least, should be affected by the time travel shenanigans, but nothing changes.
Why would it be affected? What changed?
>Thor with Stormbreaker can defeat Thanos with The Infinity Gauntlet, but Thor with Stormbreaker and Mjolnir can't beat Thanos without the Infinity Gauntlet.
Because, as its explained in ragnarok, most of thors power comes from his belief in himself. And at this particular point in time Thor is pretty down on himself.
>Tony Stark literally kills himself for no reason at all. Nigga has unlimited power in his hands and he chooses to snap Thanos and his outnumbered and out-skilled army? I guess Tony's daughter is growing up without a dad now.
Was Thanos army outnumbered? You have numbers to support that? Furthermore it doesnt matter since nothing was stopping Thanos from getting the stones back from Tony unless he did something quickly. Also what makes you think Tony knows how to affectively use the stones?
>Captain Mary Sue destroys Thanos's ship easily. Cheesy all-girl superhero shot for no reason other than a cheap pop.
Something she did in her film. Why is this hard to believe. I will admit the femvengers scene was cringe as fuck
>Gamora is still dead? Did the 2014 version disappear with Tony's snap, too? She wasn't at the funeral and couldn't be found by Star Lord.
Yes she is still dead.

Anything else?

so, he has like 300 millions
enough to make 600millions without do anything else

She was in exactly ZERO scenes after Tony did his snap. Why discuss a movie you havent actually see?

How was he gonna get the gems back? Tony had 6 powerful gems to chose from to resolve the situation. Instead he went for the overkill and left his children fatherless

The same fucking way Tony got them from Thanos?

The guy that figured out time travel in an evening and is like the smartest guy around couldn't figure it out?

Okay Mr. Reddit, then how do you explain Thanos's decision to travel FORWARD in time for the final fight?

I'll answer it for you - because Thanos is actually a retard. You're going to tell me that it's a logic failure on the character's behalf (despite being shown across more than two movies that he is one of the biggest forces in the universe to be reckoned with). You're going to expect me to believe that Thanos is dumb, right? Because it couldn't possibly be plotholes... No no no...

If not. Then give me another fucking reason as to why the bad guy realises the "good guys" are running around in the past trying to foil his life plans and his immediate reaction is to timetravel and try and stop them when they have ALL THE STONES... Not to time travel back and stop them before they get one of the stones or something. But to fight them at full power with ALL OF THE STONES. Even AFTER watching his own death.

Which actually raises another issue... If it is really parallel universe travelling and not specifically time travelling solely... Then why the fuck can there not be multiple infinity gauntlets? If there is the insinuation that there are multiple stones across multiple timelines... Why the fuck did Thanos not just go insta complete his life mission when he gained the ability to pimple particle all over the joint.

THIS IS WHY USING TIME TRAVEL IS A LAZY MECHANIC BECAUSE AMERICANS ARE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO EVEN BREATHE LET ALONE WRITE A REMOTELY CONSISTENT STORY.

Wakandan spiritual beliefs are confirmed real.

2014 Thanos comes into the future and dies. There is a split timeline from that where a snap never happens.

>but what if Tony...
>NO YOU RETARDS DR.STRANGE SAW 14 BILLION SCENARIOS AND SAID IT WOULDNT WORK
>but if Tony just....
>NO IT DIDNT WORK
>but....
>14 BILLION

Lazy writing desu

Tony had all the stones, though. He won. He has more power than he knows what to do with. And Captain Marvel is a few feet away. Why did Tony have to snap Thanos? Thanos is very killable without the snap.

>How is the timeskip at all hard to work around?
Peter Parker is still 15 in 2023. Did all of his friends get snapped, too? If not, some of them should be in college now. There is a five year fucking gap everywhere that has to be worked around.
>Banner didnt exactly know what he was talking about.
The stakes are lessened if rules are stated that can easily be worked around. Bring back all the dead from the past. Nothing bad will happen.
>The hammer isn't a stone.
Irrelevant. Past Thor doesn't have his fucking weapon for a decade now and nothing changes.
>Plus once all the stones got returned (the hammer got returned as well) the timeline reverts back to its normal state
There is literally no difference between the timeline's "normal state" and the one where the Infinity Stones are all together in 2023. None. The only change that matters is Cap going to the past and staying in the past. Why? I don't know.
>One of two things. Either it created a divergent timeline which is what the Loki show will cover. Or that timeline reverted back to normal as well when the stones got returned
So another case of the past divergence changing nothing.
>Oh so you havent actually watched the movie? It literally fucking explains this.
The movie tries to handwave it, but it still doesn't make any sense.
>What consequences was there supposed to be?
How about every fucking Marvel movie that takes place between 2014 and 2023 being changed? Are you dense? From Guardians on, a shitload is different now.
>If they remove someone from the past it could create timeline problems
Wasn't demonstrated in the movie in the fucking slightest.
>Changing the past doesnt change the future. Another thing mentioned in the movie.
Then bring the dead heroes back. Problem solved.

You mean the ship that was tiny in comparison to Thanos’ command ship that he had to zip through multiple times to destroy?

The stone can't bring her back because she is IN the stone, she was the sacrifice

>1 in 14 million
sorry sweetie, but you're wrong :^)

Which he conveniently couldn't do in infinity war, and now he that he's merged with banner definitely can't do

In case you don't remember, just wearing the gauntlet nearly killed Hulk. Stark had a ton of adrenaline going but would've been in a shitload of pain and unable to concentrate much. Hell it takes him 20 seconds to say I am Iron Man. He wouldn't have been much use trying to do anything but snap.

>y..you sre reddit
Is there a bigger sign that someone got btfo than them having to resort to this? Anyways because he clearly wasnt afraid of them even with all the stones. Like you said yourself, he is one of the "biggest forces in the universe to be reckoned with" Why travel around gathering the stones when you can go to one location and gather all of them?? Its not like his faith was completely misplaced, he almost succeeded. Also I dont see how seeing his death was relevant to him. He was in a weakened stste after using the stones. Its not at all relevant to his current circumstance.

False. The divergent timeline reverts to the normal timeline when Cap returns the stone. This is discussed at length in the movie

>trying to find sense in movies for basedlets

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Calling them out for not having sex?

Dr. Strange shows him the "1" with his fingers, meaning out of all the potential futures, they only win if Iron Man dies.

Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.

maybe he already saw in those other 139999999 possibilities that if they did anything else some bullshit would happen for them to fuck up completely

>Why would it be affected? What changed?
Because one can't just make massive changes with zero consequences. One can't make the New England Patriots bus crash, killing everybody inside, but also have the Patriots win the Super Bowl regardless. These aren't little changes at all.
>Was Thanos army outnumbered? You have numbers to support that?
Captain Marvel herself could have fucked most of them up. Tony had the Infinity Gauntlet. The other heroes were crushing Thanos's army.
>Furthermore it doesnt matter since nothing was stopping Thanos from getting the stones back from Tony unless he did something quickly.
How the hell do you know? Is this a predestination thing, because Thanos can't fly by himself and could easily have gotten his ass whooped by the Avengers teaming up on him.
>Also what makes you think Tony knows how to affectively use the stones?
Thanos used the stones effectively without practice Tony could have pulled something out of his ass. His entire character is a deus ex machina scientist.

I don't know how you don't see the gigantic hole in the plot. Being told that something is bad is different from demonstrating why it's bad. Show, don't tell.

Yes, I know that, I'm not retarded, it's the plot.
But in practice the writing did not fit the standard it set for itself.
It did not FEEL like that was the only way, you understand what I mean?
Let me rephrase: I understand that it is [WRITTEN] to be the only way and that any other way would fall in the 1399999999 possibilities, but it did not [FEEL] like that.

>make 600millions without do anything else
how?

Got btfo? What are you even talking about you insignificant fucking insect? I called you reddit because the way you are defending this shocking puddle of a flick is so embarrassing that I can only imagine you're on the wrong site entirely... Thanos not being afraid is a dogshit defence and you know it. Being fearless doesnt equate to being a fucking retard. You're talking about a dude who has meticulously devoted the entirety of his existence to doing this. A dude that kills off his own daughter for this one pursuit despite her being the only thing he cherishes. A guy hinging all his hopes on the power of all these stones combined... yep no fuck it I'm just gonna wing it in a fist fight and hope I win. His actions immediately undermine how powerful the stones are. If he is not scared and thinks he can just rek the avengers shit and take the gauntlet then he must not think the stones are really such a scary force after all.

No, no, no but now you will tell me that he didn't anticipate that any of them would be able to wield the gauntlet! You're gonna tell me that he underestimated le dumb humans... Or that it was his own hubris (despite us being shown the opposite in regards to his character)... In reality, the answer is the writers suck. It's the same answer as to why Strange spouts his bullshit "it has to be this way" dialogue over and over again. Like many have pointed out it is a HANDWAVE in the face of the audience and idiots like you gobble it up. But what's worse is you smash that shit down, wash your mouth out with some urine, and start spitting equal bullshit about how its the best meal you've ever had. The only one that got btfo is you my friend ;^)

Not really. It was the snap that did the damage.

No you fucking retard. Watch the Hulk scene again. He's almost incapacitated just from wearing it despite being the most powerful and it takes everything he has just to manage snapping his fingers, despite being the fucking Hulk.

>First ten minutes you mean you watched a guy talk to himself and a 3 people disappearing and decided it was the worst thing you ever saw
I pray this is b8

Captain Marvel just got btfo by thanos. So she is out of the fight.
>time skip
What friends? The fat kid? Is it really that hard to believe that he and maybe a couple others got dusted? Other than that what "issue" does the timeskip cause?
>The stakes are lessened if rules are stated that can easily be worked around. Bring back all the dead from the past. Nothing bad will happen.
What rules did Banner set? He said he didnt know what he was talking about
>Irrelevant. Past Thor doesn't have his fucking weapon for a decade now and nothing changes.
What fucking decade nigger? The time heist and the fight with thanos didnt take a decade. Cap returned the hammer presumably. And most importantly. THE DIVERGENT TIMELINE RETURNED TO ITS PRIOR STATE WHEN THE STONES WERE RETURNED
>There is literally no difference between the timeline's "normal state" and the one where the Infinity Stones are all together in 2023. None. The only change that matters is Cap going to the past and staying in the past. Why? I don't know.
What the fuck are you talking about? They flat out say if the stones arent returned there will be a divergent timeline. Well the stones were returned. The divergent timeline doesnt exist then.
>>One of two things. Either it created a divergent timeline which is what the Loki show will cover. Or that timeline reverted back to normal as well when the stones got returned
Except it does. This is what the movie doesnt explain well. Was there 1 divergent timeline for each time period im which a stone is taken? So there is now only one divergent timeline in which loki got away with the tesseract. All the other time periods would be fine since those stones got returned. Or did returning the stones just revert all the timelines back tk normal? Idk.
>it doesnt make sense
How doesnt it?
>cap marrying peggy changes every marvel movie
How exactly? Nothing changes here.
>removing people from the past doesnt change anything
How wouldnt it?

Why the fuck didn't Ant-Man just turn the gauntlet small, Thanos would be done and Captain Footfungus would have ended him.

holy shit

better yet why did they even make the gauntlet universal to mold onto anyone's hand

Antman is outwardly shown to be the least intelligent of all the hereos. He thinks Die Hard is a time travel movie. Why the other heroes didn't suggest this though ? I have no idea... Maybe he is so dumb that he literally didn't explain his powers properly to everyone so they didn't know it was possible.

You're right though. This is on the endless list of Infinity Holes for this fucking tanked franchise.

There have apparently been 2 captain americas the entire time. If you don't think that is stupid. Then you are stupid.

Better yet, why didn't he have the gauntlet controllable and fully changeable like any other of his techs, that shit could have flown straight to him or anyone else during the fight.

Cont.
Remove cap he cant participate in the events he needs to be in. Why do they need to explicitly show this? They dont show them going back into the past again. And its irrelevant since that timeline gets reverted.
>Then bring the dead heroes back.
How exactly?

What does cap marrying peggy change?

Captain marvel herself got fucked up and Thanos was about 2 feet away from Tony and the stones

And how do you know thanos couldn't. The other avengers had either gotten their shit kicked or were busy fighting his army. What makes you so sure thanos couldn't get them back from tony?

And again how do you know he could use them effectively? Maybe just tony using them period would have fucked him up.

Lmao seethe more user shit. Again apparently it wasnt an issue since he almost did get the stones back.

So show me Tony visually suffering. He was looking all businesses before the snap. The way the scene was executet it looked like he just did it out of panic. Show me why he can't use just one of the other broken ass stones, or why his sacrifice was absolutely necessary. Captain marvel could have just snaped thanos and co out of existence when she had the glove earlier. Or even Hawkeye, who has desperate to sacrifice himself hours earlier. There were no stakes as long as Thanos didn't have the stones.

They literally turn the stones small to get them to the present. They knew it was possible. Also drax is probably dumber than Scott

You thinking its stupid doesnt mean it doesnt make sense in the movies universe.

Scarlet got written off, I'm sure there's a version of that scene where Hawkeye jumped off instead. She's getting a solo movie next year so she's still in.

>my face when Cap lifted Mjolnir

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royalties
or betting it all on black

Why didn't Captain Marvel just pick the time stone or the teleport stone out of the glove and get to the van in like 1 microsecond instead of running with the stones like a retard.

Hawkeye should’ve just thrown the moon at Thanos and his army as soon as he got the gauntlet

He had a whole suit on. Maybe thats what protected him. Hawkeye probably wasnt strong enough to use the stones. And it probably would have killed Marvel off as well.

The moment a franchise brings in time travel is the moment you can throw any sort of stakes or logic out the window. See "The Flash" for more details. I'm disappointed they went that route.

Captain Marvel is higher tier than hulk so she would have survived at least one snap. Even so there were still so many other possibilities she could have done instead ot fly around thano's troops with the thing they want like she trying to bait them or something.

I don't think they do, when they return they have all the stones but some not in stone form like the scepter, the Tesseract, power stone in liquid form, Soul stone in stone form, the orb from GoTG and Hulks grabs the time stone.

All they do is try to figure out a way to turn the non-stones into stones.

>seethe more
>apparently it wasn't an issue

Um he fucking lost. Which means that everything I said was correct. And ultimately your counterargument does boil down to - lmao I guess he was wrong and retarded. You fucking suck. Your parents and I both wish you got snapped away tbphwy user.

Did you miss the part where Dr Strange told him he had to an hero as it was the only future where they win? Brainlets.

Except for the fact that it doesn't really make sense on top of it being stupid.

>"Your homework from 5 years ago is STILL due!"
like who would actually care about school anymore

Cap wielding Mjolnir

Why didn't Dr Strange just trap Thanos in the mirror dimension, he fought Thanos good when he was using the stones, now without them he could have just ended Thanos. Or even Captain Marvel/Scarlet Witch combo, or Captain and Strange.

Rather than doing that they let him holding water, that last fight wans't planned that well. Scarlet could have held the water or big Ant-Man.

>watching YouTube from the closet

Explain it to a brainlet like me but how did Thanos time travel? The Pym Particle was used by 2014 Nebula to come to the future right? So how the fuck did he transport an entire army? I think I must've missed a scene.

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Clockstoppers

There's actually quite a few. 12 monkeys springs to mind immediately. Primer being another one. They are somewhat hard to find because the mainstream ones that dominate the genre are all trash and riddled with logic inconsistencies and plotholes. See Harry Potter 3...

Thanos turned his whole army small with Ant-Man tech, shoved into his ass and made it big when he arrived in the future.

That or Nebula technology rigged the gear into taking more people into the future. Same way Thanos have teleportation technology on his ship he may have some other advanced tech.

There's a scene where past Nebuala takes the pym particles from future Nebula and gives them to Thanos.

>review 14 million possibilities
>only win in one despite having time travel
sorry Doc, the math doesn't add up

How does 14 billion match against infinite possibilities. Tony left his daughter without a father because he trusted some guy on a wimp. When he has a few options ahead of him that lead to guaranteed success doesn't mean he has to go with the most stupid one.

investing in high-heels for men

hawkeye dumb as shit

I'm guessing Nebula handing Thanos the Pym particles implies he replicated the formula but damn, they made no mention of it from what I can recall. Nebula just uses the Pym particles to travel to the future and opens a gate that can only be used by Pym particles.

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>Gets all the gems
>Doesn't use them to instantly make a final and ultimate Mk.∞ suit to have a sick fight with Thanos and go out in a blaze of glory while Driving With the Top Down plays
I probably shouldn't have gone in hoping that would happen, I was setting myself up for disappointment.

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I literally cannot fathom how this board does not understand a movie made for kids.

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We perfectly do. We just poke at retarded writing. The way marvel thought they could just hand wave any plot holes with the dr strange prediction and how retards are using it as defense is hilarious.

Another explanation is that they had past Nebula memories and she was a part of time travel travel project so so she knew all about it. Making so past Thanos could've gone back into the even older past to get all the Pym particles he needed and making so he could travel without any problems.

But again they never say anything even close to that.

He didn't know the full capacities Thanos had at his disposal, Thanos seemed invincible in almost every way. He had the chance to end it all right then and there with 100% certainty and took it. Let's say he flew away and Thanos can blast him with beams coming from his eyes or hands or something. No. He had the stones, the gauntlet and could just snap and end it and he did. Of all the things to complain about this is not one of them.

Thor took the power stone to the face in Infinity War and didn’t suffer any substantial damage.

Bitcoin.

Every single thread involves retards that don’t understand the basic time travel rules of the movie as well as the different timelines, or even worse, brainlets who didn’t pay attention and ask questions that were blatantly answered in the flick. Differentiating between criticism of the writing and someone being a literal mouth breather doesn’t take rocket appliances. And most of the discussion falls into the latter.

A movie made for kids still shouldn't have blatant plot holes. Kids still have reasoning/critical thinking skills. They aren't retards.

Why was Thanos able to change time with no consequences but the Avengers can't do it without destabilizing everything?

grab gauntlet
ask one of the kungfu wizard there to zap her to some whatever the fuck safe to hide the gauntlet
zap back and cuck thanos

Strange was entangled with the water, he has to be able to enchant to use shit like mirror dimension, hell he cant even portal without the sling ring. Your scenario means thanos drowns potentially hundreds of soldiers to try and save Tony. Strange was correct, this is the only way.

Why didn't they just use the stones to bring Stark back to life?

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In my case is not that i dont understand them, since im actually a comicfag from back in the day, the beautifull late 80s early 90s, is just that, the way they decided to build the plot makes no sense, and i wouldve expected them to make the plot coherent since, unlike comics, these movies arent going to be ereased and rebooted in 6 months, these are a one shot and done, jin the comics i give them a pass since every 6 fucking months theres a reboot and characters die and come back.

Dr. Strange could have, at any time, teleported himself and the time stone to the center of a black hole, or a distant star, and destroyed it, thus making it impossible for thanos to get it during his lifetime.

I liked the part where Stan Lee gave that black dude the shield.

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He's right, Disney is very clearly pushing an SJW agenda here and it should be called out. I'll be very interested to see how well these new "Diversity" characters will do without the main crew backing them up.

My cynical side is telling me it's to make room for Iron Girl as a previous user pointed out. We'll see where that goes.

Seriously why didn't strange just teleport the gauntlet to a safe location while they finished off thanos and his army? 9

>Beating Thanos

It was very clear that scarlett witch, captain marvel or thor could beat thanos without the gauntlet. As soon as stark got the gauntlet the battle was over, he didn't have to sacrifice himself.

NANOMACHINES SON.
While I understand Falcon becomes Cap in the comics, I think the honor should've gone to Bucky instead.
Falcon is just a normal human with fancy tech wings and firearms unlike his comic version.
Bucky is at least a super soldier, with vibranium arms now to boot so he can wield the shield more effectively than a normal human.
He doesn't even have a superhero name unlike Falcon, Winter Soldier was his villain name.

Nice head cannon

The stupid part is that the gauntlet alters reality, it's essentially a wish. It was powerful enough to bring trillions back to life, across galaxies. On top of that it had the power to kill all of Thanos army at the same time. Meaning stark specified these two things at the same time. He could have also rolled in there" oh yeah make sure I survive this ". That's the main plot hole I see.

>Meaning stark specified these two things at the same time.
hulk brought everyone back, dumbass. the only thing stark did was wipe out thanos and his army

i thought hulks snap brought everyone back and IM snap killed the army

Oh yeah huh. Me, I'm retarded

Don't you think thanos and or hulk would have done the same damn thing? Bruce is like the smartest dude on the planet brainlet.

because Dr. Strange says theres only one successful outcome timeline. Obviously this outcome was the success and all others were failures. Marvel would have BOTCHED something.

Plot device constraint BOOM.

They literally killed Thanos in the first 5 minutes of the movie. He's not some god being.

didnt paul died offscreen and they called a baby in with his name

Any of the Avengers except Widow or Hawkeye could solo Thanos sans Gauntlet/Gems.

See this guy gets it.

Thanos might not have known it would fuck him up since he was first dude to try. Hulk just tried to muscle through it and figured his gamma wank would work.

What is using the infinity gauntlet twice. It took Thanos 5 years to recover enough power to use it a second time. Yeah they murdered the fuck out of him.

Hey guys

Wasn't Hawkeye in the battle at Wakanda in infinity war? Why was he at his house when the snap happened?

This.

Theres an implied botch chance. Strange makes it explicit that all other routes have chance of botch failure or long term unforeseen consequences

1 fucking chance, this is the only universe where they won

t. doktur strange

Except strange only saw 14 million possibilities out of infinite. And captain marvel didn't know Tony had to sacrifice himself.

What the fuck are you talking about you brainlet, it only took him 23 days to use it a second time

based speed watcher

this and this desu desu ne

You're a brainlet

>23 days

Hawkeye and Ant man were'nt' in Infinity war. There is a single line of dialogue from Black widow explaining that they took a deal with the government to stay underground in order to protect their families.

I loved the shit out of the beat down sequence after he got it. I want that shit in a webm as soon as the discs are out.

But Tony knew he had to make the call. Its implied when Strange says "If I tell you it won't happen"

and also when Strange gives tony the "just 1" finger sign.

Tony knew he had to be the guy

Honestly I was playing FFT with the movie playing on a different monitor.

Oh I must have imagined that, thanks

You simply have no sense of film user. I'm sorry.

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Tony will come back as AI, he will be just like Ultron uploading his artifiicial brain into any suit he wants.

widow will be brought back just like Gamorra was, they will travel bakc in time and bring her just like Gamorra, it cant be revived because the soul stone mandates the sacrifice cant be undone.

My only real complaint was that Bucky didn’t get the shield, but from interviews I’ve read with Stan I really got the impression he wasn’t interested in playing the new Cap and dealing with all the contractual obligations that come with it. I’m happy to just fine with every other conclusion I’d say, this one just bums me out. WS should have gotten a tight redemption story through picking up the mantle of Captain America. I don’t dislike Falcon or anything it just feels undeserved. Neither of them feel like they would be an exact replacement of Steve, I just personally think Bucky would have a better arc and personal conflicts as Cap.

I still am, homo. It's much better than that trash in your reaction picture.

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Cap can bring Widow back. It'll probably be the post-credits scene after her solo prequel.

Falcon already had some interesting room for exploration in both his abilities and his character. WS had great character depth we can explore but his ability is... guy with an arm and a gun. Having him go from Hydra Assassin to America's Ass would have been a neat way to bring out some definition to his character on top of making his 'power' really thematic. New Hero Name: VibeMan