Sicario > Hell or High Water > Wind River

How the fuck can you consider Sicario the best of anything

It only is the best of Villeneuve flicks, but that ain't no big achievement

Sicario is obviously the best of the three.

HoHW was wonderful but just not at the same level.

Wind River was really poorly paced and had quite amateurish writing, then they chuck this tacky political message right at the end when we would otherwise be completely immersed in the quite well acted and emotionally resonant final scene.

The implication here is clearly that the US doesn't give a shit about Native Americans. But if you think about it (and ignore the massive amounts of aid that these people get on their literally independent sovereign lands granted to them within the borders of another nation) why should they exactly?

Isn't the whole point that these people want independence on their reservations? Well why should the US government keep tabs on their missing peoples? Just because they aren't able to keep a database of missing people doesn't mean that an entirely different nation state has to bear the burden. It's like complaining that France doesn't keep track of missing people in Malaysia.

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>then they chuck this tacky political message
Oh dear. It's not like the rest of the film had been political or anything...

It was, but it was a natural tone elicited by the setting of the film and the characters that you would expect to inhabit that setting. That little bit at the end was very abrupt and unnatural and reinforces the idea that you're watching a political message in the form of a movie, rather than watching a movie that happens to have political implications.

Hell or high water > Sicario >>>>> wind river

Not sure I've only seen Sicario.

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Pic is already in order you retard

God damn Wind River was excruciatingly poor

I’ve not seen wind river but I can tell you that sicario and hohw are on the same level, at least for me

>while missing person statistics are compiled for every demographic, none exist for native american women

So what it's saying is that they know exactly how many people are missing, but nobody bothered to write them up as native american and compile it into a statistics and that is a travesty because...?

The fuck am I missing here? The fuck is this shit?

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I think I pick HoHW 2nd because of the buddy dynamic between Jeff and his partner.
Wind River is good but Renner is bland, the Olsen chick is bland and based Bernthal is a bitch

>The fuck am I missing here?
A brain, obviously.
It's pointing out that North American women are a demographic that are largely ignored by the government.
The film was about two opposing cultures (cowboys and indians) coming together in a world that has left them behind.

>It's pointing out that North American women are a demographic that are largely ignored by the government.
Seems to me that it's only pointing out that they dont have statistics specific to native american genders, which they dont have for any other ethnicity either.

I dont care about the inherent themes of the film, who gives a shit, it was a turd anyway. What I care about is that quote which seems to attempt to make some outrage over absolutely nothing.

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Ya yes wind river, WEINSTEIN'D last produced movie
where he tried to pin the high homicide rate of native women in north america on whitey
(((every fucking time)))

correct

Hell or High Water > Sicario > Wind River

>THE TRUE ORDER

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Ton of plebs itt, Wind River was fantastic

Very based.

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HOHW>>wr>>>>sicario

Only correct opinion in this thread.

You have the reading comprehension of a nigger.

I think I liked HoHW better than Sicario, it felt more human with the relationships between characters (though I understand that Sicario did not aim to be that). Only flaw for me would be that final scene with the two of them. Too much explaining.

I just began watching Wind River after finding this thread.

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HOHW>>>>>>>>>>>sicario>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shit river

There's a wikipedia article on the issue of the lack of statistics. Google would've been your friend.
>Similar to Canada's situation, specific data on Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women (MMIW) in the United States has also been difficult to gather. Contributing to this difficulty is the fact that many times when Indigenous women and girls go missing, or when Indigenous murder victims are unidentified, forensic evidence has not been accurately collected or preserved by local law enforcement. Cases have been allowed to quickly go "cold", and crucial evidence has been "lost", or never forwarded on from local law enforcement to the appropriate agencies.[53]

>Between 1992-1996, even though Indigenous women experienced similar or more rates of assault and crime, they were less likely to be reported [54]

>As these cases go unreported, it allowed violence and murder to be inaccurately represented in statistical data against Indigenous women, but it has also allowed aggressors to go unpunished.[55] Multiple groups have attempted to represent more accurate statistic or bring to light the lack of record keeping by law enforcement, such as the Bureau of Justice Statistics.[54] However, numbers are still skewed today as they were 2 decades ago.

The Hunter >>>>>> [POWER GAP] >>>> Hell or High Water = Sicario >>>>>>>>> [POWER GAP] >>>>> Wind River

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>forensic evidence has not been accurately collected or preserved by local law enforcement
so the tribal police are incompetent

>Cases have been allowed to quickly go "cold", and crucial evidence has been "lost", or never forwarded on from local law enforcement to the appropriate agencies
again, incompetence and lack of agency of their behalf

>even though Indigenous women experienced similar or more rates of assault and crime, they were less likely to be reported
so native americans are more criminally inclined and also share the same 'no snitching' attitude that blacks have? what a wonderful combo, it's really helped black ghettos that's for sure

honestly this all just seems like their issue, why should anyone else be held accountable or forced to intervene and police them when they are always demanding more independence? they know what independent means, right?

Don't drag the Clintons into this.

>incompetence
Even if you want to simplify it down to that, there's plenty of issues that can be brought up. Especially why incompetence has been allowed to become prevalent, and if proper training or equipment have been provided by the government.

You just sound like a brain dead /pol/ user. Your thoughts were formed before even seeing the article, and you're doing your damndest to make sure the only view you can get is your own.
I mean that last paragraph is just embarassing - especially when you're complaining about a film that was dealing with government intervention.

Wanting shitstains of the country held accountable for the crimes they commit and their victims having justice, isn’t very political it’s a basic human right.

Not that user but you really sound like a dumb treenigger. Always crying and blaming everyone else instead of taking responsibility.

All 3 are great. But yeah, definitely.
Also, Yellowstone is literally just a tv series of Wind River with less snow and more ridiculousness

Also, Sicario 2 is damn good and I still don't get all the criticism. Even if I accept that the ending had its flaws (it did, though I think they're overblown), it's not bad enough to ruin the previous 2 hours which are amazing

As a film critic:

Sicario > Hell or High Water > Wind River

As someone who goes to movies:

Sicario = Hell or High Water = Wind River

>I still don't get all the criticism
it's a generic action movie

>"so you want to be a Sicario too, Soldado?"
>doesn't get the criticism

it sucked, my man. it isn't even a case of "but at least the action scenes were good." they weren't. clear and present danger from 25 years ago puts the convoy attack scenes in sicario 2 to shame.
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