Avengers fucking plot hole

They just won't bring it up again except for maybe a 4th wall breaking style quip from ant man at some point.

Because Thanos wouldn't ever know about the time loop... It would be completely pointless.

Now I'm just picturing old man Cap sitting at the back of an Avengers briefing, yelling "Why don't you just time travel Antman up his butt a week ago?".

They literally brought back Hank Pym tho

And they can get rid of him again, very easily. Continuity and capeshit don't mix well.

Pym is canonically an asshole, so maybe he just don't wanna.

Since soul stone requires a sacrifice of your loved one (and lets be honestly, there exists only one such person for everyone), does this mean that Hawkeye didn't really love his family and was a cheating son of whore?

I assume this was due to female writers desu

Tony Stark is the only person who could figure out time travel and he is dead now.

Banner has the pop up shop for time travel but they will never be able to do anything on that large of a scale without Tony is my guess.

>B-but all the instructions are probably saved somewhere

a person can love more than one user
the real bullshit part is that if someone else rather than that couple goes to the soul stone it would be for noth
>Nergomanchine and blue chick go there
>Eh... my love one?
Also why didn't they already know about the condition for soul stone from blue chick

>"Why don't we travel back to 2013 and stock up on those dark elf black hole grenades?"
>..."Ok, now that's not a terr-"
>"And then have Scott put one up Thanos' butt!"

Dormammu lived in a dimension where time doesn't exist. Strange won since he introduced a factor Dormammu has no mastery in.

Cause he knew that wouldn't work. He saw 14 million, or something like that, different possible outcomes and the only one where they actually won was the version where he, Strange, willing gave the stone to Thanos. In all of the possibilities, he likely tried that and it failed just like when he tried to use the Mirror Dimension and Thanos blocked it.

just go back in time before you use your last pym particle and get more

based

>B-but all the instructions are probably saved somewhere
how is this not a valid point? Inventors left back blueprints, their researches all the time. Did you think techs just suddenly vanish or something? Especially something as important as time fucking travel.

did you finally realize cape shit is shit retard

they didn't know, only Thanos/Gamora knew the condition

95% of the discussion I've read of this flick is time travel shit and how much money its going to make.

so even co-worker relationship would have been enough for soul stone, and Red Skull screwed Thanos over, essentially making sacrifice of Gamorra completely unnecessary? lmao

But if you've got none to start with how do you go back to get more?

power stone to the guardians of the galaxy and they blast him, it would give them something to do and help gamora re-integrate into the team

well they made time travel the backbone of the movie so the discussions would naturally be steered towards that direction

Thanos had four fucking infinity stones. No amount of time fuckery could've stopped him for long.

then save at least ONE for that?

this
much better solution than muh sacrifice cause I have family now

thanos understands time it only worked on dormamu because his dimension didn't have time and strange brought it with him

I am captain planet!

pym has at least one hidden somewhere, guarantee. I don't think you'd ever find them all. He probably has a whole warehouse full of it shrunken down and hidden in a matchbox

*discussions of plot holes

no it wouldn't
you cant fix capeshit

how do you return the grenades to fix the timeline?

haven't seen the film yet, but let me get this straight:
> to undo the snap, they have to get the stones from multiple alternative universes instead of from the past
> (which would effectively create multiple universes due to multiple variations of timelines)
> they succeed in the undoing
> real timeline Thanos is still dead
> one of the timelines' Thanos uncovers the shenanigans
> four more Thanoses still threat to their respective timelines
> within each of which he is likely to succeed
Bravo lmao

Thanos controlled reality meaning the method of trapping him would have incoporate that which Thanos controlled, space.

SHHHHH....

Idiots can not understand the difference of being outside time and what that means. So do not bother.

Kudos for getting it though.

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You don't. Just grab a spare from the belt of any masked goober that died on Asgard.

In the film they mention that time traveling to the past wouldn't work because your present then becomes your past. But then they went and broke every time travel rule including their own so there are several plot holes surrounding the time travel alone.

but that grenade had a place in the universe

Thanos would know. The stones talks to each other. Vision knew and so did Tony via mind gem radiation.

No, he's only away in 2014 because Nebula's bluetooth went haywire.

They basically have a discussion about how time travel doesn't work the same way it does "in the movies" so the MCU timeline is canonically not like anything seen before and so can't be used the way you're thinking of.

>Why didn't they just use the time stone to revive Iron Man, Vision, Black Widow, and Gamora?
>Why didn't they use the time stone to turn Thanos into a baby on Titan?
>How can you destroy the infinity stones without killing the universe?
>Why didn't Iron Man use the Hulk Buster in the finale?
>in part 1, why didn't Thanos use his armor?

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Plotshield

He could do that because he can control time-space and knows how to open portals to alternate realms where he could have left Thanos at the very first sign of him

It probably sat in a vault in Asgard until Ragnarok.

There's a reason why after they snapped there weren't 2 thanos's

wow, just turn your brain off. people like u are ruining good super hero movies

Why didn't he send Thanos to Dormammu's dimension?

They?

Black Widow was traded for the soul stone, that one can't be saved because it wouldn't be a cost if you could just sacrifice someone for the stone then bring them back with it. Same thing for Gamora.

Presumably there's a similar cost with Iron Man. Using the stones has a physical toll you must pay to use it. Anything you trade to use the stones power would be irrelevant if they could just swap them back.

Vision is kind of a maybe. By their rules, you can't affect your own timeline, only go into branches so theirs is totally dead. But they could go back to right before he got Thanos'd, take him forward, safely remove the stone, then send it back to Thanos. It'd be complicated but would create the least disturbance.

When Iron Man turns up to school then all after they mess up the first test without him.

>just turn your brain off.
That's a shit excuse and you know it.

>By their rules, you can't affect your own timeline, only go into branches so theirs is totally dead.

Yet we had two Captain Americas do just that.

Admit it's half-assed writing meant to be more of an emotional conclusion than a reasonable one.

well that was retarded lmao.
Why didn't they just return the stones once undoing of the snap was done? Did mindfucked Nebule from 2014 steal the gauntlet or what?

magicman literally used the time stone to revive entire streets in his own movie without any consequences except of a whining nigga "muh dark magic"
now explain to me why can't he do the same in this movie?

Why didn't they go to another dimension or timeline and grab another Black Widow?

>BW didn't land on Gamorra's rotting corpse

WEAK

Why would she when she was there years earlier than Gamora?

>Gamorra didn't land on BW's rotting corpse

Fixed it for you. The fact that it wasn't there shows short-sighted writing.

it was before gamora jumped wasn't it

they should have has black widows body already there in IW but so we couldn't see who it was

but she did it earlier... gamora should land of natashas rotting corpse in iw

Out of curiousity, how did they actually get the Soulstone if Hawkeye didn't actually "Sacrifice" Black Widow? And was she really the thing that he loved?

This to me just seems absolutely ridiculous.

>its a plot hole thread
>its just anons asking why their headcanons arent on screen

Thanos with the glove punched out of the mirror dimension, pretty sure he can punch out of a time spell

they were both gonna sacrifice each other. no matter who died, they were gonna get the soul stone. plus its in BW character to do the thing to get shit done

You're not making sense here. Didn't she Fucking throw herself off the mountain? How does Hawkeye get credit for sacrificing her?

Except in IW wouldnt Widows corpse not be there? Since Cap returned the stones the timelines merge back into the one, and she hasnt jumped yet

They could’ve just gone back in time and got the black widow who didn’t sacrifice herself yet and bring her to the future based off their own logic. Black widow doesn’t cease to exist from history because of her sacrifice. They literally did the same thing with gamora and brought the past gamora before she was scarified to the future

The movies dog shit

He was technically holding her and she just threw herself out of his grasp

See even this Fucking dude is saying Black Widow sacrificed herself! Hawkeye didn't sacrifice shit, so how does he get the stone!

>people are still claiming Gamora came back
Holy shit did you people not actually see the movie? At no fucking point does it suggest that past Gamora decided to stay in the future. I dont understand where this meme is coming from

So that's him sacrificing her? Yeah Fucking no. This is absolute Bullshit reasoning.

They could honestly just say only stark new the fine intricacies for making it work and the idea died with him

it doesnt matter who died because the other was going to get the stone. they both love each other so the stone was going to one of them regardless of who dies. black widow is all about getting the mission accomplished no matter the cost and clint has a family to raise and all that and BW has nothing. it makes sense for her to go, but it also makes sense for clint to go because she loves him too to sacrifice him to get the stone.

either way, one of them was going to get the stone.

Why because you dont like it? Its pretty fucking reasonable reasoning. The movies never fucking say who has to do the actual sacrificing

>It's a retard is too stupid to understand even Capeshit episode
It only worked on Dormammu because his dimension didn't have time, therefore the same Dormammu had to kill strange millions of times. But with Thanos it would be a 'different' one every time, meaning he would never get tired of killing Strange

i dont know who any of these female characters are they all look the same

not a plothole but
>completely receycling the scenario on Vormir.
>i mean literally beat for beat, verbatim, the exact same thing that happened in infinity wars
did the fanboy retards at your theatre freak out (in an inexplicably positive way) to this shit writing as well?

This. The machine got destroyed when Thanos attacked.

yeah and how did Cap go back in time to return the stones again? jesus you retards

They were both gonna sacrifice THEMSELVES until they got all "I AM JUMPING!" "NUH-UH! I AM TOTALLY DOING THIS!" "NO YOU'RE NOT! I AM TEH SACRIFICE!"

scene would've worked better if anybody cared about these characters

That still doesn't make sense though. Are you saying they love themselves and that is the sacrifice. A sacrifice is something someone gives up. It's why it worked when Thanos pushed Gamora over, he sacrificed her. It's not a sacrifice when someone commits suicide.

You’re going to feel rather silly when guardians 3 comes out and past gamora is with them. Hell she was in the ship with rocket, quill, drax, ant lady and groot and Thor

no you dolt, they love each other more than themselves. thats why they were both trying to get the other to sacrifice themselves.

hawkeye let go of black widow and she died, thus getting the stone. the scene would have worked had the positions been reversed. however, black widow wanted clint to live because he has a family and she wanted him to live so he can be a father and husband.

i dont see whats so hard to understand.

Gamora wasnt on the ship with them. Why do you think it showed Quill searching for her on the monitor.

This.
It would have been interesting if Red Skull did something like conjure up the souls (with the power of the SS) of his family for Hawkeye and maybe Banner's soul for Red Widow, and whoever wants the stone has to make the sacrifice of said souls being lost forever

that could have been an interesting solution, either destroying Hawkeye's family for good, or gimping the Avengers (across all times, because soul stone)

No she fucking wasnt you dumb fuck. Quill was looking at her on a screen.

I find odd that they decided to bring back everyone after 5 years and not use the fairy godfathers trope of making everything go back before the event occurred. In this case it would definitely create a lot of trouble in the entire universe, just imagine:
1. You used to be married with children but only you survive, then after 5 years you move on and get married again just so your first wife shows up again.
2. You were a student and disappeared, then you come back and all your friends continued without you, probably not even at school anymore.
3. In some random planet the population gets halved then the other half tries to bring them back using crazy science only to destroy their planet. What happens to the ones that come back? Do they just reappear in the middle of the space to die again? That would be pretty horrific.
It's such a shame that they will never address this situation as you can see with the new spiderman movie. It could be a very interesting drama.

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They can revive anyone they want, it would just cost them the stones. Which they didn't want to do because muh other dimensions, which is also flawed, because those dimensions are already doomed. The moment they go back in time, it won't be the same "past" anymore. It would just be a new one.

Lmao you didn't even watch the movie

That other user apparently didnt pay attention. BW definitely sacrificed herself. But you are splitting fucking hairs here. Are you saying the ritual is smart enough to differentiate between who actually did the sacrifice? Because again, Hawkeye was holding her when she forced herself out of his grasp... also as i mentioned before. It doesnt even ever specify who actually has to perform the sacrifice.

Except redskull doesnt have access to the power of the soul stone.....

Lmao except its not just a co worker relationship brainlet. They state several times. Through several movies. That Widow and Hawkeye feel like basically family. So essentially its like sacrificing your sister. Which seems like something that would be sufficient.

Why didnt Thanos just do pic related?

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Except it will. They LITERALLY explain this. If they return all the stones right after they stole them, then all the dicergent timelines cease to exist and go back into the one main timeline. Watch the movie.

>Except redskull doesnt have access to the power of the soul stone.....
You don't know that, it is never said anywhere and even it would take absolutely nothing to change that.

He's the guide to the stone, and has clearly become some kind of spectre thing, presumably not because of his own volition (maybe the soul stone appoints its own guardian, idk), so it could have been easily done

no they won't? as soon as you shift even one fucking molecule, you've irrevocably altered the timeline. that all the events WE care about might remain the same doesn't change that it's nonetheless an entirely different timeline from that point on

is neil the most stupid "smart" guy in the world?

>he doesnt know about the comicforce

>so even co-worker relationship would have been enough for soul stone
More than just a co-worker, probably someone REAL close. They were treating each other as family, BW even admitted that early on.
Nebula knew, it's the reason why Star Retard flew into frothing rage in IW.

Also, pisses me off that they relegated Doctor Strange into a fucking dam. The guy could've easily sent Thanos into the mirror world, especially since he doesn't have the gauntlet early on the clash. That fucking sacrifice part was forced as fuck.

they already killed fucking past Thanos and past blue chick
now tell somehow returning the stones will magically fix that timeline into the main timeline again

>by the time the power stone is collected 2014 Thanos already knows about the plot
how does that timeline reset? Thanos just magically forgets about everything and goes about his business?

the alternative that the knowledge died with 2014 Thanos in 2023 also poses the problem that if he is removed from 2014 then IW never happens

so this is basically only solved if, when Cap puts back the power stone Thanos forgets everything he learned in the past couple of hours, and/or gets resurrected and teleported back to 2014

I am aware that the stones have some "reality-straightening" ability, but lifting a stone and putting it back the next moment should not clear memories, resurrect people or do basically everything that was fucked up in the timeline so far, this is fucking retarded on so many levels

because the point is his plan is flawed, hes a fucking maniac who wants to cause mass genocide

Seriously. I fully expect Pym to be mad at Lang for giving his tech to a stark, even though it was to save half the universe.

I laughed. It was so unintentionally funny to me. This has to become a meme. Just everyone throwing female characters off a cliff and dead bodies at the bottom. The fact it was BW and space-BW is even cringier. Not gonna kill someone who would have am impact on audiences? No one actually likes this characters.

Why didnt he chop his hand with a portal

>being proud of watching capeshit
embarrassing

>baldwoman
>we need the stone to defend oursevles from dark and evil forces bla bla... can't give you that

>dr. magicman and other avengers
>eh... just... return those stones or something, we don't need them for any "dark and evil forces", muh temptation bla bla bla
this movie is fucking retarded

Has time travel ever worked properly in a movie ever?

Are you seeing any Saturn V rockets or Concorde planes around?

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because better versions of them already exist?

>here’s why thanos is stupid. This is what I’d do
Tyson might be good att numbers and stars, but he doesn’t seem to have a basic clue about a simple ass comic book hero

No, they don't exist.
There is no Moon travel.
There are no civilian supersonic flights.
There are no large cargo capacity spaceships.

>There is no Moon travel.
yes there is
>There are no civilian supersonic flights.
because it's fucking expensive and not profitable
>There are no large cargo capacity spaceships.
see above

>even one fucking molecule
Man, that is so good to read. They could come up with all the theories they want, but you can't avoid that.

Yeah idt so. You think redskull would be trust worthy enough to weild the power of the soul stone?

Okay sure. This is fucking fiction though. Time travel doesnt really fucking exist. So you are applying rules to something that doesnt exist. And since this doesnt exist they can create some of their own rules. And one of those fucking rules was that returning the stones returns the divergent timelines back into the singular timeline. They explain this in the movie

Boy Americans sure are stupid

That isn't even remotely comparable retard, those don't exist anymore because they're far too costly to fly/maintain not because the blueprints are lost.

>sacrifice was forced
Sure. But it created one of the better scenes in the film. I almost teared up a bit with Peter Parker and his interaction and the Pepper bit.

>yes there is
The last travel to the Moon was in 1972.
>because it's fucking expensive and not profitable
Still, it does not exist.
>see above
Could you link it? I will concede that, in the future, and if it works, Space X's BFR will have a payload capacity four times bigger than the Space Shuttles. And that for the Moon, not low Earth Orbit. Time will tell.
Just to clarify, I would like this, but it ain't gonna happen. I am bitter.
youtube.com/watch?v=xLNA7MRdjlw

Well, it wouldn't work with they rules the set (can't change past)

No they just went into the past not into 4 different universes.

Who knows. Its just one of the rules they established for their fictional interpretation of time travel. I mean we have gauntlets that can dust the whole universe in a snap of the fingers. But it can also bring all those people back with another snap. I mean is this really where it gets too far fetched for you?

yes and then captain stayed in the past and married Peggy, which fucking changed the timeline anyway, so they fucked their own rule

yes when movie create its own set of logic only to fucking rapes it later

Is he autistic?

He was busy making a giant whirlwind to hold some water at bay. If he can create such a powerful force to keep tons of water from flooding the battlefield, why didn't he just create a minor dam out of earth? My headcanon is that he wanted Stark to die because Stark turns out crazy after Thanos and builds armor for the planet and becomes a dictator.

or he could use the time stone after the battle to revive fucking everyone there just like how he did in his own movie

Why wouldn't it? It said they cant change THEIR past. That Thanos wasnt from their past. So returning the stones made the divergent timeline in which Thanos was killed cease to exist.

The cap thing is the hardest to explain. And probably should have been handled better. But from what I can tell him marrying her doesnt actually change anything. Do the previous movies ever say that Peggy stayed single forever?

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I don't watch capeshit, but time is nothing more than the reality of change. So if there's no time, how can anything ever be introduced?

Because, as the ancient one puts it, the stones create the flow of time, so therefore if they erase errant timelines when put back in place, its a snap back effect. All changes moot.

if she marries captain fucking america then Shield and Hydra would know, how the fuck could she even hide it?

Cap is a causal time loop, he was always peggys husband so its okay. He didnt change anything.

>he was always peggys husband so its okay.
and for some reason Shield or hydra never discovered that their top agent marrying a guy who basically looks exactly like captain murrica?
we saw old cap, he's just Even with bad aging CGI, not some deformed monster. We also saw him with Peggy in the past, the dude looks fucking the same

This is exactly my point

Would they? Why the fuck couldnt they hide it?

Sure, like how? We're talking about hydra and shield here dude,

here's another plot hole

if thanos had a ship in orbit why the fuck didn't they shoot at the army that came through the portals? why did they do the dumb two groups of people running at each other trope?

...Fucking hell. They could've just taken the timestone and reversed Tony's condition. I'm overwhelmed with all the plotholes I didn't see the most glaring one.

>loki escaped with one stone
>they somehow have all the six

Literally explain this

Does Shield make you disclose the identity of the person you marry? Just keep the shit a secret. Hydra literally managed to keep a secret that they infiltrated shield for over half a century. Yet now its somehow unbelievable that Peggy cant keep the identity of her husband secret?

As far as old cap is concerned, its a fucking stretch to claim that someone would just immediately recognize him like "oh you look how I would imagine and old Steve would look like." And even if they did all he would have to say is that must be a coincidence. And in fucking 70 years time he can be completely anonymous since they literally find Captain America.

they went back to take the one from Tony Daddy's lab in 1970s
but still that won't explain how they fix the timeline with Loki running around with the space stone

I didnt say it was flawless writing.

Hydra and Shield in the 40s and 50s you mean. They didnt have the kind of surveillance technology we do now back then.

All he'd really need is a bear and some hair dye and nobody would be none the wiser, because everyone already knew at that point that Captain America "died" in World War 2.

It doesnt fucking matter you god damn retards. Once the other two are put back in that timeframe, it auto corrects, thats what the whole scene between Ancient One and Banner were about.

it's your fault for taking red skull's words at face value. thanos threw his daughter in because he didn't seem to bother doing anything different.

The moment the went to 1970 they retconned all the mess they caused in 2012. Then when cap went back to return the stones everything supposedly happen according to the Canon. So loki should still be dead.

Dont they explain in Dr. Strange its dangerous to fuck with the time stone? And lastly these movies need some weight someone needs to die. I mean as far as we know maybe the damage caused by all the stones cant be undone by a single stone

I would have just gone back before either of them sacrificed themselves and then shoved hawkeye in instead

>. Yet now its somehow unbelievable that Peggy cant keep the identity of her husband secret?
Does Shield make you disclose the identity of the person you marry?
yes? because she's a fucking agent not some random citizen, and the organization must pay close attention to whom their agents were fucking you retard

>That Thanos wasnt from their past
Are you kidding me? That Thanos was 2014 Thanos in a timeline created by 2014 visitors identical to their timeline till that point, not different from Tony meeting his dad, but not the same. Now, if Tony from that timeline went back in time he would meet original tony with his father, but Tony from the original timeline could go back in time1000 times, at the same moment and that would create 1000 timelines, but he would never meet himself with his dad. When you "create" a branch you create past-present-future and all the possible branches and connections. You can't change your past means, I couldn't go there in 1970 and kill Tony in that timeline because I can't change the past. If I manage to go back in time in that timeline I could slap tony, but it would be another tony, my action would affect a, let's say, mirror timeline of tony going back in time. But I am not even sure that would be possible, I mean, compared to go back from your original timeline, that is a timeline you're not actually "connected to", but I may be wrong on this one.

to make it evident that she is not with them of course. she will be a plot point in the next movie obviously

Now this is entering head canon territory. At no point in the movies do they point out that shield agents have to disclose their spouses identity.

Thanos literally brought back Vision WITH the mind stone
And Strange never really care about muh dangerous time stone, it literally has no consequence

>Once the other two are put back in that timeframe, it auto corrects, thats what the whole scene between Ancient One and Banner were about.
like how the force solves all the incoherent nonsense in the prequels?

You also have to accept the fact that Peggy listened to Cap's explanation of where he was from (whether the truth or a lie) and was perfectly fine with him doing nothing.
Probably every time something bad happened, she would ask him if he knew already about it. And she was fine with that for 70 years.

Im thinking that actually gets to stay as a divergent timeline. Which is where the Loki series on their streaming service will come into play. Idk though i could be mistaken

We have literal evidence of Shield not only not forcing their agent to disclose the identities of their significant others/family, but the leadership actively hiding it from any form of archival records.

Do you dipshits remember Hawkeye?

yes it does you fucking sub-80 verbal IQ mongrel

>Shield's agent has soviet lover
>tee hee now she's leaking info to the commie, it's okay though because we care about our agents' private life

it's up to red skull to decide, he is the caretaker after all

But vision wasn't killed by any of the stones. Scarlet Witch killed him. So maybe they can reverse that damage.

And maybe strange was tiptoeing a really fine line and it was something he could only do in Dormmamus realm. They definitely mention alot how dangerous it is to fuck with the time stone.

where's the proof?

it's not public information to all agents, but the top brass like Furry still knows it

No, it never says you have to sacrifice directly, Red Skull says "you must lose that which you love".

Lose, key word, that doesnt mean you have to be the one to hurl the bitch off a cliff, just that whoever lost was someone you deeply cared about.

Scarlet witch power also came from a stone so fuck it all

OFF THE RECORD user.

HE PREVENTED ANYONE ELSE FROM KNOWING.

THATS YOUR ANSWER.

Why didn't they just all time travel back to Titan and just beat Thanos there and then borrow the soul stone from Vision?

Plotholes aside, can we talk about the sudden girl power moment during the final battle? Was that supposed to be a glimpse of the future?

Okay sure. I had forgotten about that. But even still. In a universe with fucking alien racoons, you find it hard to believe that a secret agent who works with shield (meaning she knows how that organization itself works) would be unable to keep a secret about who her spouse is?

And an even more simple explanation. Maybe the people who would know who each agents spouse is, are fine with it as well. I mean i highly doubt they just have a database where every agent can see all the personal info about other agents.

Okay but a single stone. That damage was done by all the stones. That was my point. What if a single stone cant undo the damage cause by ALL the stones?

What the FUCK.
How the fuck can future you become past you?! That's a basic time travel rule present in every form of fiction ever made!
WHAT THE FUCK!

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because fuck back to future and fuck boomers lmao

...If you go back in time?

user are you retarded? If you go back in time 10 years, then the version of you 10 days before you went back in time is the future version of you, which is your past.

He didnt. There was just two Steve Rodgers. One was frozen under water though. So he could live out his life while the other one was frozen and no one knew about him... by the time they unfreeze Cap. The other one will be an old man. So no one would ever really know

Why didn't they go back in time and teach Thanos basic malthusian economics, or at least convince him to just kill every nigger and other nigger-equivalent groups of the universe?

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because that would be a better end without muh epic CGI shitfest

What happened to the second Captain America?

He will get unthawed and the everything that happened in the MCU will happen normally.

What Writers probably meant: it's the same cap, went back in time, fixed everything putting the stones back to their place, stayed there with peggy, laying low, while his old self did everything you know. What bench instead of platform actually means by their time travel rules: alternate timeline.

How the fuck do you even put the soul stone back

Wait, I haven't seen the movie yet but are there actually 2 Cap's in an alternate timeline at the end? For what purpose?

Wouldn't that mean when Thanos destroyed the stones that time would stop?

No, don't worry. It's about the ending. Some people say the ending makes sense, some say the ending could only work in an alternate timeline (According to their time travel rules).

Cap goes back in time to return the stones to their right place, he decides to stay there instead of going back to the present, so there should be a future Cap and a past Cap.

I have no idea. I asked, but I got replies like, why would that be a problem? He goes there and leaves the stone and something like that. Not to mention I would love to see that awkward moment when he meets Red Skull "oh, look who's here"...

or when he somehow putted the reality stone inside Portman again, probably through her ass and she will take it
or when he sneaked up into shield base again after like 10 minutes of them just escaping from that place, to return the space stone (which is not a cube anymore) to a container Tony already destroyed
or when he walked back to the elevator full of Hydra goons to return the mind stone (which also not a scepter anymore) after "borrowing" it from them for like 4 minutes
or when he met redskull (who already fucked off after the stone is gone) and returned the soul stone (can it even be returned?)
or when he woke Quill up and stuffed the power stone (now without any container) in him and basically blew up the poor guy

India just crashed a ship into the Moon you dumb fuck.

Maybe in a few months writers will reply to question like these at some comicons, in some podcast, twitter or something like that.

If Thanos was trying to better life in the universe why did he allow fucking Fortnite to stay after the snap

He could have in the beginning of infinity war.

if Fornite exists in the MCU, does that mean that 8 years old play as the worst mass murderer in it?

The ages don't match up at all.
Howard stark looks like he's in his 30's in 1970 and peggy should by in her 50's but looks 20

just use the Time Stone

>MCU is the timeline where the Epic Games Store beats out Steam.
>They weren't playing Fortnite because it was popular. They were playing it because it's literally the only game with a development team left.
Not that hard to maintain constant updates, even with half your crew gone, when everyone is forced to work 70+ workweeks in the first place.

Most likely because Thanos had the reality stone and could use it to stop that shit.

Sorry, but he's right. Dormammu had no concept of time and that is what eventually drove him mad. Thanos is after the stone, and once Strange was dead, he'd just take it and reverse the time trap.

This doesn't make any sense, because if only taking the stones creates alternate timelines then they could in fact go back in time and change the future

discussing plot holes in capeshit is pointless
the genre doesn't follow any rules of logic regardless
you have wizards, gods, magic stones, time travel etc.
they can make literally anything happen and it doesn't matter, as long as it looks cool on the screen and the quips land, people eat it up
plot doesn't matter

you can't find logic in capeshits and fantasy movie, just get over it

No, it wouldnt change anything because the stones create the flow of time, meaning they'd just revert any changes once you leave.

>There's only one scenario in which we win out of 14 bajillion or something

But that's wrong, because now there is also a Universe in which Thanos and his army do the time travel thing and they never come back.

So that's two Universes saved, not one.

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Because then you wouldn't have a movie you dumbass

You can't have normal logic in movies because then movies wouldn't exist.

I do believe the Ancient One said that Bruce Banner just by being there had altered the timeline.

No she didnt.

>Tony Stark is the only person who could figure out time travel and he is dead now.
but they rebuilt the time machine after he died

they had to spend a lot of time in the movie talking about how america seemed to have an inability to move on. NYC was completely dark but tokyo seemed fine

I mean, they’re right. It doesn’t matter. Primer is probably the best done time travel movie as far as consistency goes yet it’s still mind numbingly boring. How it looks on screen is always the most important thing.

because they needed some theatrical ironic poetry to drag out this easy-fix as much as possible
seriously
and a five year gap after his victory?
seems like strange wanted to play this as a game and see just how far he could go with his psychic magic

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A future you shows up and gives you pym particles so you can go back and get pym particles.
Fuck this movie

How come when Thanos used the Infinity Stones, they evaporated into air, but when Hulk AND Iron Man use it, they're still there?

If you created a time loop, Thanos would just keep doing the same thing over and over again. Dormammu lost his shit because he usually exists outside of our conception of time. He was actually able to perceive that he was in a loop.

MCU time travel doesn't let you affect the past of the current timeline, it only lets you grab items from the past and bring them to the current timeline.

They literally should have had Deadpool use the gauntlet to save the day. You know how many heads would have exploded if they did this out of the blue?

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Someone apparently never watched her movie where she unlocks her potential at the end and puts ronin the accuser and his entire army on notice...

She could have resigned her post to get married.