Have you noticed that the colors in 90s films are more pleasant and vibrant than modern movies?

You mean 90% of it wasn't CGI clutter and garbage? Weird.

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Film>

Early 90s nostalgia is really just 80s nostalgia.

Are you serious? The picture you posted is pure yellow.

This.
Digital is shit.

>yellow
>natural electric light
No green, blue or orange filters at all

Kys zoomer

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Oh? On God?

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Slathering a color onto your movie is a hack move and you're a pleb for even having a preference you fucking plebeian faggot.

Thats because
>film
>less CGI because it sucked
>didn't use dumbass filters
I noticed too that they started using that shitty grimdark blue filter a lot in early 2000's movies

Shut the fuck up libtard

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Are you retarded? Serious question

It's surprising how short of a time it took for everything to become total shit isn't it. I'm 29 and basically have no hope for the future.

He's not wrong about the electronic though, it was pretty good.

city street lights are yellow

everything was better then, nostalgia is not a bias

what people don't realize is that just because you cannot appreciate the present without contrast from the future, doesn't mean it's not objectively better from a hindsight perspective -- no one could realistically appreciate those times when they were the present, but now that they are in the past and we know what the future was gonna be like from there on out we see the full extend of what we had and what we lost and the absolute fucking shit show we're saddled up with now, you can unironically consider those the good old times because they are, and if you could time travel back to that period knowing then what you know now it would absolutely be much better

sadly the dystopia we're headed towards will do the same with the 2010s as the 2010s did with the 90s, 80s etc -- as shitty as these times are, and they really are shitty, the 2020s and the 2030s and so on will be orders of magnitude worse and we'd wish to fuck to get back to our present day

Probably because they were shot on film.

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movies that made this gimmick popular:

>The Matrix (green for matrix scenes/blue for outside)
>Gladiator (blue for the first battle scene/yellow for the arena)
>Traffic (yellow for Mexican desert scenes, blue for NY scenes)

irl 90's life was more pleasant a vibrant, too.

Cruise's recent films get a pass purely because it's literally Tom Cruise.

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>Probably because they were shot on film.
this guy gets it

Pain & Gain was terrible, but in a terrible way.

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You're alright.

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Heh, nothing personnel kid

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90s films were cold but still saturated where modern films are completely desaturated. Suspiria is the peak of colour in film or maybe Tokyo drifter, not sure. In any case 60s and 70s has some nice vibrant saturated primary colours in their films.

>The Matrix (green for matrix scenes/blue for outside)

This is a meme and not true of theatrical release.

You need a lot of filters on everything to try to hide the fact that modern movie are just a stage play in front of a green screen.

Yes.

Film stock vs Digital.

Film just looks more beautiful and can be ethereal. Digital a shit.

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>completely desaturated
You dunce, it would be in black and white if it was completely desaturated.

Holy shit, I wonder if it's because movies are shot on digital and every single frame is color graded to hell by a bunch of spineless sheep.

Nah, it's probably nostalgia. 35mm unironically captures colors, depth, light, everything better. It's not even more expensive.

>Spend 150 years carefully perfecting a chemical process that exactly captures reality on transparent film
>Throw it all away as soon as a cheaper but less accurate method comes along

If Hollywood had any sense of decency they'd not allow digital movies to be nominated for oscars

>implying
youtube.com/watch?v=hMqenL2A9co

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About fifteen years ago or around that, a new digital editing software came out, and one of its default settings was orange vs blue color balance. In that period a dozen of the cookie cutter Hollywood blockbusters were all in orange (through yellows) or blue. A blogger showed several unedited screengrabs next to one of the program with the exact same shades set.

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Digital color grading first gained prominence in the early 2000's.
Before that filmmakers had to meticulously plan out a color "vibe" for their film, but ever since DCG they just adjust the colors in post.

So same as today? But replace college with soundcloud.

God I miss this look.

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As opposed to...

I only now just realized this hand shot was an allusion to Boorman's own Deliverance. Neat.

Matrix was always green.

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>t. zoomer

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At least not nigger and spic music everywhere.

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The look of Excalibur is 90% the lenses and techniques used and 10% the film stock. A similar look could be done with digital.

For other John Boorman as well as native boob kino see The Emerald Forest.

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Anybody else feel calmer and more relaxed when watching films from early 2000s and back in contrast to modern films where you feel more tense and negative emotions?

Cruise was unironically the reason that movie was shit. He wanted to cram in all his circlejerk stunts and make it a Tom Cruise movie. Just had to fucking run a bunch.

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Cheers, I'll check it out one of these days.

Im talking about how they look btw

What makes blue such a defining color of modern cinema?

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Movies like JP and T2 are such fucking kino, they're exceptions. They raised the bar for everybody else. Truly special when they came out, still endlessly pleasant today. The innovative CGI was the cherry on top of traditional good filmmaking craft and creative storytelling. They still feel special. Do you remember what it felt like to be able to see these movies at home when the first high quality tv screens and DVD players came out to replace VHS and CRTs? Those were the movies you could use to showcase and sell the tech. It was mind blowing. Now all the big blockbusters rely heavily on CGI to carry the spectacle, and they're all manufactured in the same soulless mold with poor filmmaking and storytelling. We have 4K and Bluray but I also feel no enthusiasm from watching newer movies in quality conditions at home.

>slap a david fincher filter on it

what were they thinking?

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This the pre-2000s kino thread.

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Jim always loved his blue
Let's not pretend it's a new trend
See also: Mann

its a cool color used to psychologically program viewers into being more docile.

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Probably because they weren't color corrected entirely by computer.

This is false, there was always a process involved when developing the film which gave the movie a specific colour palette, even the stock was chosen based on its colours.

Fucking hacks think "we gotta have the whole scene blue so it will be sad!".
But the far more common reason is to make it look better, even though it looks like shit

Good thing we got LotR when we did.

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There was a process in SHOOTING on film that gave it a specific color palette, colored lens filters, colored gels over the lights. Want to really make blue pop on film? Slap a blue lens filter and shine orange light on the subject and regular light on everything else.

The fuck are you even trying here? What's that dogshit quality image supposed to show?
Just google "green tint" + matrix.

IM BLUE

how does this much video come in under 3 MB, what sorcery is this

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Yes, yes, the internet is full of zoomer retards like you. It's a fact that that green filter wasn't added until after Reloaded came out, it wasn't in the cinema, and it wasn't on the early DVD versions.

The power of Arnie.

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Blue/Cyan and Orange/Bronze are complementary. Making everything blue will really bring the orange out. See how the details of Sarah's face on a blue background stand's out in It's some weird contrasty thing that makes both colors really oppose each other and thus make more of an impact. You could literally use any opposing colors for a similar effect, but the orange is the closest thing to skin color.
This is, incidentally, why Spray-tan (Including you know who's) tends to be orange.
That doesn't explain shit like , where everything is blue.
My theory on that is simple: I had a friend who was red-green colorblind but did video editing back when we still used RGB cables. One day his red cable came loose and was not connected to the tape deck, but he didn't notice until somebody else watched the video he made and asked why it was so green.

people are generally the opposite color of blue. We're warm blooded and fleshy.

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The 90s color palette is indeed superior, but whenever there's shit you must remember it is so because people are shit. If you're not a misanthrope you haven't been paying attention.
T. Zoomer

I do too, fellow man of culture.

30s-50s technicolor has the most vibrant colors by far, 80s/90s movies cannot compete

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wtf is that framerate gtfo

They aren't, it depends on the DP. You're just an idiot.

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dude, proto electronic music started taking off in the early 90s
by the late 90s we had techno, tech house, house (many varied subgenres), trance, jungle (split off and we got dnb from jungle by late 90s too), etc
i bet you never fucking heard of Orbital
faggot

He is obviously an American. As you say in the UK we had lots of choice.

sure bucko

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I wish I could see the original theatrical release

Jean Michel Jarre has been making electronic music since the 70s with analogue synthesisers

youtube.com/watch?v=6Q00HQwO2Sg
>t. 1976

>that fuckin banner dropping during the roar
Man this movie was so well made. I wonder what Lex's hair smelled like?

I bought it on DVD in 2000 which has the original version on it, pic related with the card case, you can probably track it down at a second hand store if you keep an eye out. The 4K is closer to the original but still not quite right, that's a bit more blue than the theatrical.

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And here's the blu ray/4K comparison

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So perfect

top image looks better to me

the film itself was the colour correction

Which one is supposed to the "right" one to like according to you autists?

The original theatrical/DVD version

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this basically explains it. people too caught up in the development of tech to the highest and most efficient level but ignore the soul.

Same with architecture. Why live in a home when 100sqft condo will do? Sure its soulless, but its the "way of the future"

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We have K-pop now.

IF I WAS GREEN I WOULD DIE

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No and you're fucking retarded and blind if you actually think this

Grading used to have be done per-reel from the negative (even dailies needed to be graded this way). It was incredibly time-consuming and expensive to maintain consistency as it was a chemical process, so very few films went with a "processed" look. Digital workflows completely eliminated this barrier and now directors spend almost as much time fiddling with the look of their films as they do on principle shooting.

In short: it was because of film.

Holy shit is this real? Lmao.

I really hate the blue tint that gets slapped onto everything. People think if the scene is sad, set in someplace cold, or 'dark' in tone, then the entire fucking picture needs to be blue to reflect it. As if the emotions can't come through in more natural light and colours. Ughhh

>See how the details of Sarah's face
What about the details in the window behind, which are now washed out?

even as a kid i remember those hospital scenes looking cool because the orange sun makes you realise shes stuck in there while the general population is outside probably enjoying life

but apparently grimdark is so much better. "mental hospital = bad. so MAKE EVERYTHING BLUE!!!"

I MISS THE OLD TIMES, BREHS

Culturally the late 80s and early 90s blend together. Grunge and that whole "we're all fucked" attitude didn't take off in the main stream till the mid 90s.

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books on this subject? how do you know so much about it?

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Any book on film making before computer workstations became mainstream?

The belief that movies can't look good anymore because of digital format is false, but it does feel like there is a profound lack of talent, passion and soul (meme buzz word that applies here) in the look of modern films.

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tue, most netflix originals come in 2 colors black and brown

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which ones? say the name of one at least

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Good question, most have been updated to cover digital editing and effects and just gloss over the history.

Yes.

Wrong. The excessive flashbacks and exposition designed to make the Chinese dub easier to make ruined Mummy.

Not always. I think of things like Twin Peaks which were just black and brown. Digital despite all it's negatives usually isn't as dark as film

That is the most boomer movie I've ever seen and I'd legitimately be curious and surprised if there's something more boomer than it. Closest thing is like Chicago PD or Ray Donovan as far as shows go and maybe like "Salt" as far as films go.

i think the matrix killed that. every fucking movie nowadays wants to have their own unique filter so people know they are watching X movie.

>American music """"taste""""

As we get closer to the Nigger Singularity, each second past will seem like Utopia compared to the present.

what kind of nose do you call this?

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Everything would be better with VHS filter

Santa's elf.

old germanic warriors called it a blood groove nose, you know like the blood groove on a sword. Which of course has nothing to do with blood.

Have you even considered that maybe all movies look like shit to you because you are watching them in a shit display? Try watching T2 or The Matrix in an OLED tv in HDR or Dolby Vision and tell me it doesn't breathe new life into these films.

You fucking retards realize that a good 50% of movies are still shot on film right? God you faggots are worthless

There’s two formats, so naturally it will be 50%. Retard.

The face is more detailed in the bottom pic but it's less pleasant to look at and kind of feels generic desu. The backgrounds are also washed out.

>The face is more detailed in the bottom pic
Only because it's a new 4K scan. Imagine if they left it like it was without digitally altering it. It would look like the top but better.

It's how the "30 year old boomer" meme came about.
90s worship is pathetic.

i know exactly how you feel, there's something about the way most 90s movies were shot. it has such a unique dynamic to it, it doesn't feel as sterile as movies do today.

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It's TEAL you stupid fucks. TEAL.

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Yes, human skin color is naturally green.

What were a lot of people depressed about during the middle of the 1990s, anyway? How long did that last, until the emergence of emo 2000s stuff, and it never truly went away until more recently, with some of that hipster optimism?

>What were a lot of people depressed about during the middle of the 1990s, anyway?

The cancellation of Brisco County Jnr.

>Born too early and in the wrong country to enjoy happy hardcore when it was new

youtube.com/watch?v=ZLkdyO5nFHc

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On a related note, is there a website that compares the quality of blurays to dvds? Ever since discovering that blurays of old films can be absolute garbage, I've held off on buying them.

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i said that as soon as the 80s shit started some years ago (again)

the 90s was an era of optimism before some sandniggers blew up the symbol of american greed in 2001 and there has been a worldwide western butthurt ever since. now people are so depressed they shoot each other in schools and other places because of some barely perceived notion that they;ll never get laid even though it only takes 200 bucks and the guts to go to a hooker.

kurt cobain and layne staley made it cool to be depressed and take heroin.

Film vs digital doesn’t really matter, George was right about that. You can’t find a single compelling technical arguement In this thread about any actual identifiable differences. Theres lots of movies shot on film that look like absolute shit, in fact I would say most of the films ever shot on film looked like absolute shit. You just need your own Sven Nykvist to make everything look really good, Tarkovsky made his best looking film with Sven’s work. It’s all about the talent of the cinematographer. Color and all that stuff is honestly an afterthought, set design, ‘atmosphere’, misè en scene, rhythm that’s what makes all the difference, not how fucking ‘pretty’ something looks espically when everyone’s watching things on almost radically different equipment.

they didn't have disgusting teal and orange color grading

New one looks much better.

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Good god, make up really fucked up with his fucking eyeliner wtf

>HURRRRR! OLD GOOD! NEW BAD!
kys brainlets
you're just mad because humanity is progressing and has left you behind

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bottom unironically makes the harsh desert look a lot cooler, which has plenty thematic implications

To think this came out almost 26 years ago

No you don't, it wasn't a thing.

>look ma I'm cinematographing
Zoomers are no different than fucking cats or crows.

>58KB jpg
Are you retarded?

>experimemtal electronic compositions are the same as mainstream EDM genres
Wikipedia pseuds like you are the biggest fags. What's next, death metal wasn't formed in the '80s becase WELL AKSHULY niggers played proto blues in the 19th century?

>Grunge and that whole "we're all fucked" attitude didn't take off in the main stream till the mid 90s.
Nirvana's Nevermind was released in 1991

>50%
imagine being this wrong

Is the present messing with my memories of 80's and 90's movies and tv shows from when I was a kid?

Oh fugg, after a decade of wondering why Arthus looked so familiar I’ve finally got it!
Thanks user, that can finally stop bothering me

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men who don't like scenes like this literally can't be male

idiot

>everything behind Cruise is blurry

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PORN before that law eliminated the fetish big tit stars. Retro 90s minka....

this

Gotcha senpai, but 2.0 is even better
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Anyone else like film grain? Even fake film grain?

Why are the responses to this post so retarded? You're right on the money, that shot has everything I love about the 90s film look.
Have you never seen Fight Club? Any David Fincher films from the 90s? Those kinds of shots weren't unccomon.

It's the monitors. Tube monitors at their peaks did color better than LCD and plasma ones did. Plus film captures color better than digital does just as it captures resolution better.

The tech effects the color, which is why for Dukes Of Hazard they painted the General Lee in a GM color that's nearly red and called "carnival red" just to make it appear as light-to-medium orange on TV.

>when you can't comprehend hyperbole

The one time where the new version is better

The Sentimentalism of Verdi or Puccini is probably the most frequently used form of film scoring. It is to sound what filters are to vision.

Romanticism... Chopin, Schumann, Wagner, generally derided or used ironically.

Realism emphasized the role of race-over-environment (in contrast with Naturalism), which is largely why Mascagni is opted for in films like the Godfather.

Decadence might be associated with Edgar Allen Poe or Mahler, attach it to Expressionism and you have something like Hitchcock or Tim Burton.

digital grading changed everything. less work on set, everything is flat and ready to be changed by a fucking intern somewhere in california

You got a problem with orange and teal, goy? We worked hard on this palette.

Digital color grading ruined modern movie.

at least half of the hipster music talked about on /mu was recorded in the 90s

Yeah true but 90’s skate/surf punk was the renaissance period if you were into that sort of thing

Just imagine what John Boorman's Lord of the Rings would have looked like.

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that jean jacket always looked weird in that universe

>recreate painting you liked when you were young in your movies with zero creativity
Renoir was a hack. The Tarantino of his time.

The Prodigy, Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim, Daft Punk, Apollo 440, Underworld, Orbital, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Boards of Canada and many more

90s were the prime for electronic music.

anything analog has a soul
anything digital dosen't
simple

The right way to do a blue scene.

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>its a cool color used to psychologically program viewers into being more docile.
I honestly believe something like this is the explanation.
Some mind control shit.

The top one, because all the scenes in the matrix had a deliberate green filter to emphasise that they're artificial. Scenes in the real world lost that filter. It's a deliberate artistic choice that the rerelease ruins.

Watching movies is such a pleb pastime.
Everything is getting worse and locked down with DRM streaming shit.
The image quality increased in theory but in reality it's just bad transfers and filters and bad edits.
Good new movies aren't being made.
The old good movies are getting worse.
Why?

>Spend 150 years carefully perfecting a chemical process that exactly captures reality on transparent film
>Throw it all away as soon as a cheaper but less accurate method comes along
This is true and so sad, cinema is dead.
Some much knowledge artistry and soul has been lost and forgotten forever.
Good films can't be made anymore in this sick climate.

everything was better in the decades before that though except porn and vidyagames

atleast you didn't show the cropped manlet version where the curb isn't shown so it looks like Marky Mark is tiny.

She was a real cutie

is this one of those "Matrix style" scenes where they suck all of a certain color out of the scene to make you feel something just isn't right?

Imagine being this much of a pseudo man

Could it be that the original Matrix is the film that destroyed cinema?

Shut the FUCK up you dumb cunt!
youtube.com/watch?v=9db8CDV3n70
>rose colored glasses
MY ASS!
You can´t see SHIT in that movie!

Welcome to business 101, keep your output going up, and production costs going down.
Jew movie executives don't make movies for fun, it's all for profit.

CHEEZUS you might be right.
The damn Wachovskis started that filter crap and (((EVERYBODY))) started to copy the trannies.

The bottom is the better one, r-right?

Really? you're going to post a webm like this without sound? That dino roar is iconic.

Have you noticed that 90s films are more pleasant than modern movies?

>implying digital can't look gorgeous in the right hands
David Lynch and Peter Deming would like to have a word

Yea Forums doesn't allow sound in webms, noob.

FLASHY COLORS GOOD
GREEN AND BLUE BAD

Of course ya blind cunt.

newfag

welp, time to rewatch Commando

The quality of the CGI models are inferior to modern CGI but the animation work in JP is superior to anything that's made today including the JW movies. Such a pity.

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>He can blow his nose and wipe his ass at the same time

Predator: Arnie Barbie edition
no thanks

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>and all of the best electronic music ever recorded

Nope, more like late 70s/80s.

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People will slam you for this, but it's the correct opinion. 70's and 80's had better films on the whole, but 90's was the absolute peak of practical analogue film technology. T2, Seven, Fight Club, Heat, Starship Troopers, etc are all examples of technical and practical excellence coupled with limited, high-quality and intelligent application of nascent CGI technology.

For me, the film that heralded the new age of everything looking like a video game cutscene was Terminator 3. Go and watch the making-of materials for that film, it's utterly disgusting how many things were CGI that would have been easier, cheaper and better-looking as practical gags. Listening to the soibois at ILM talking about their work on the film, it's clear they convinced the director and producers to adopt digital effects on that scale purely to undermine practical and in-camera effects.

That would be the late 70's and 80's. 90's electronica is mostly garbage.

The 90s were the peak of western civilization. It goes without saying that the movies would be leak as well

>Spend 150 years carefully perfecting a chemical process that exactly captures reality on transparent film
It doesn't though. Film has an artificial look. A look that's objectively beautiful but it doesn't look like real life.

Jim always contrasted warm sunny colours for human moments (see: Mexican compound, gas station, etc in T2) with cold steely blues for the future war scenes. In scenes with interactions between the Terminator and humans (T1) or Terminator vs Terminator (T2), the palette becomes darker and contrasts blue with another strong colour of artificial light - purple, red, fire colours, for example. I actually didn't mind the T2 4K colour grading watching it in the theatre in 3D, because it essentially corrects for the colour and brightness distortion of the 3D glasses. On home theatre, however, it looks like ass.

It's a meme opinion but I genuinely believe that's actually the mid-80's. The early 90's were the last gasp, the rest of the 90's were the nadir, and September 11, 2001 nailed the coffin shut. If you can make god bleed, and all that.

Because in the 90s they actually left their homes to make movies, now everything including the costumes are all digital in front of a green screen.

That's nice and all but Terminator 3 was preceded by The Spirits Within, Attack of the Clones and LoTR: The Two Towers. Those movies were already pushing CGI and digital filmmaking (even though AoTC and Two Towers both had extensive practical work).

Pug Pug, Pug nosed face

Stupid philistine

Filmmaking is more expensive than it used to be so I'm not surprised nobody leaves their LA soundstages anymore. In the 70s and 80s directors like McTiernan or Friedkin would drag their crews to latin american jungles but that was back when a dollar bought you twice as much as it does today.

Spirits Within is one of the few good examples of CGI as artistry to this day. LotR was far more practical than digital, and what digital was there was extremely competently done by some of the best people ever to work in the industry.

AotC is not bad because of CGI - far more of that film is practical than you would ever imagine - but because Lucas threw the dice on using completely untested, and in all honestly, completely unfit, digital camera technology from Sony to speed up the production pipeline. Everything wrong with AotC visually stems from that camera choice and their effects compositing pipeline. It's a double-edged sword, because Lucas opened the door to a lot of young, penniless filmmakers by driving the adoption of digital cameras into filmmaking, and as the cameras have gotten better some directors (Fincher, Villeneuve, for example) have used them to great effect. Sadly it also ushered in an era of film photography from clueless hacks who don't understand the principles of how a camera works and how to get the best out of it, who think they can fix everything in post.

Post the audio version. I'll wait.

This. I don't watch movies shot on digital anymore. It's not film.

what film is this?

Prequels look pretty good in b&w.

I think the gaudy colours and how the cg compsots poorly mesh with the practical is largely to blame. The actual images and individual items look pretty good.

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90s movies had a red and green saturation filter

With today's technology I don't doubt for a second that they could recreate the film look flawlessly, but people tend to forget that the films used as examples in this thread were the cream of the crop, for every such film there were 10 that looked like shit. In a few decades people will look back with nostalgia for current movies, once the shitflicks has been filtered out and the defining films of this decade have been established. On it goes.

Never saw the hobbit, is there any non whites in it?

If you want to see people who hate the 90's with a passion, come to Russia

The re-remastered version of The Terminator looks pretty fucking amazing.

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Do you really want to watch 6 hours of this?

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JUST use a VCR to copy your bluerays to VHS

String Implants are absolutely good a step below that would be saggy implants

Depending on the filmmaker's intent, the window behind could have been just as well lit and detailed if it was originally filmed/lit as blue, but whoever corrected that works in a computer lab, not with a Camera. These days, colors are all done in post by people who learned software and not photography or color theory, and of course remasters for dvd/bluray are too. is bang-on. The film was originally shot to have the orange sun and the orange light coming in, but whoever corrected it has no idea why.

Someone already pointed out, this was a post-hoc fix after the sequels came out. The original film and the original DVD don't have a green tint to them.

Haha it must look better when it was finished. I heard it was rushed etc. But is it a decebt story? Any black elves or shit like that?

>there is a profound lack of talent, passion and soul (meme buzz word that applies here) in the look of modern films.
That's because any boob with an automatic camera and bit-torrent can learn how to use them in their off time, so the executives are going either with the cheapest, or the closest to home -within their own circles- "talent", rather than looking for the ones who really put time and effort into learning their craft.

I heard there's a couple of black extras in Laketown but I never even noticed them. They're pretty bad films though, full of shit like this.

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Holy fuck that is terrible. How did that happen?

>pleasing
Modern things aren't allowed to please, or rather, they aren't allowed to aim to improve morale of men anymore. You think we are getting an inspiring epic like Bridge on the River Kwai ever again?

You can blame the coen brothers for this shit when they released o brother where art thou and made history with color grading

now everyone does this shit and everyone got lazy.

It's always the Jews

>why is it always the jews, old top?

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