>BRUH WHAT IF WHAT IF WE ADDED TIME TRAVEL AND CREATE A FUCKLOAD OF PLOTHOLES

The time travel bullshit completely folds under the most cursory of examinations. This is the hyperspace ram of the MCU, and Endgame is the TLJ of capeshit

Falling for bait

They made fun of Back to the Future but the entire trilogy had more consistent time travel rules than Endgame.

Believe it or not most people don't give a shit about comic books. So the 50 capeshit movies that come out a year are all the same universe to them.

And 2014 Natasha wouldn't give a fuck about other timeline avengers because she cares about the people in her timeline. Technically you can bring people back but it's not the same person who lived through the snap years and plus they would be abandoning the people in their old timeline. That would be selfish as fuck for the Avengers to bring back Tony and Natasha.

The only thing that didn't make sense imo is Captain reappearing at the end.

Yes, technically speaking they could have :

>used the machine after Tony dies to go right before he dies
>bring him to the present and explain what happened, only a day or two would have passed by this point
>the timeline doesn’t get fucked somehow because messing with people apparently doesn’t cause divergences in this movie
>do the same with Black Widow

Did they even fucking think about the plot and what they wrote or what

Can someone explain this one:
>Also ned survived the snap and Peter didn't, why the fuck is ned still in high school 5 years later when Pete revives?

Then everyone in the old timeline losses Tony and Black Widow. Selfish. Modern Avengers and family will do just fine and grieve.

>leave another timeline without tony or nat
how is that any better than them being dead and another timeline not existing?

>every world in chaos after snap
>billions of people coming back out of nowhere wont cause massive chaos, food shortages and war like thanos said it would happen (eventually)

i dont see how this is a good ending

how do we know Ned didn't get snapped?

Why wasn't past Gamora with the guardians in the end? Did she get dusted by Tony with the rest of past Thanos' forces?

>malthusianism is totally legit guys!

They also said there are no parallel universes.
Then the bald chick said there are.
Then they kept Gomora from the past.
So it's okay to fuck with other timelines and it's ok to bring back sacrificed people.

She didn't give a fuck about the guardian cause it's her past self before she met quill and she still didn't have a great relationship with her sister so she probably fled to find her own answers. She will be the plot motivator for guardians 3 I assume.

The bald chick said there's only a parallel universe if the stones don't come back. They returned the stones so now it's only 2 timelines existing

Nah there's literally another timeline, not universe, where the Avengers are existing and Thanos doesn't snap.

Time Travel eh boy Marvel always does disappoint in the end.

So aren't the stones important to the universe itself existing or something?

What happens now that they're gone?

The timelines share the stones

i'd say that could be a potential plotline for guardians 3, gamora's existence fucking up reality, but if they probably won't kill her after bothering to bring her back so we'll probably get some dumb fix if they even bother to acknowledge how weird it is that she's alive again.

They're not gone, they're just atoms.

They could literally just bring the tony from minutes ago though. This thing says that there's a backup of you created every second

Nothing apparently because Thanos destroyed all 6 of them in the regular timeline

What the fuck are you watching. There's only 2 versions of themselves.

You're absolutely correct, OP. They fucked this up spectacularly. It's the Hyperspace ram of the MCU. Retards shouldn't play with sci-fi concepts.

No, there's an infinite supply of everybody and everything, waiting any arbitrary distance in the past with zero repercussions. If they'd wanted, they could have faced Thanos with an infinite supply of Infinity Gauntlets. They're not exactly pressed for time. They have all they'll ever need.

Time travel is always a cop out even in best case scenarios and the answers boil down to "don't think about it". The ONLY feasible solution is to establish that there is a multiverse where every single possible outcome exists while also having every single moment in time exist, both in the past and the future. Then they are able to pinpoint those parallel universes and anchor them for travel. But normies won't understand such a concept so it's just time travel and so it's stupid.

This right here is the biggest plot hole in the movie. Time travel has no consequence in this movie if the stones aren’t messed with. They could seriously just pull characters from the past into the present without any repercussions. This means that absolutely nothing is off limits since they could just go back and put the stones back where they were. For fucks sake they could have just went back to infinity war, stolen the gauntlet, use it in the present, and then return it to infinity war.

>BRUH WHAT IF WE CARED ABOUT PLOT HOLES IN A KIDS SHOW

No when they steal from the past it actually affects that timeline they steal from. The entire point was there is repercussion. You're amazing for not understanding it. There's only 2 timelines you have to worry about. Do not cloud your brain thinking there's infinite universes they're creating.

The worst part is the implication that they can just always go back to 1970 and get more pym particles. There is no upper limit to the uses of time travel so it's broken.

They literally explain that the timeline is only affected if the infinity stones are gone. That’s the whole reason they return them. They could borrow as many infinity stones as they need and do whatever they want with them as long as they put them back

Not if you "bring it back," bro! Think about how fucking retarded that is.

>bring in that Tony for entirely swlfish reasons
>the branch timeline you just created is wiped out by Thanos
Good job idiot. Hell the monk lady even explains this shit, the reason the Time Stone can't leave 2012 New York is because Strange needs it later to save reality from Dormammu.

they bring back the stones to not fuck over other timelines
the other timelines still exist

>man of steel
>forgets to add spawn as a usable character in soul caliber 2

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The 2014 timeline they steal shit from doesn't get snapped by Thanos because 2014 Thanos jumps into the modern timeline and dies. So their timeline lives as if thanos never gathered the stones.

if you've seen that little of the series and you enjoyed infinity war well enough then you'll probably enjoy endgame about the same

they were just saying they liked it for a frame of reference for their tastes I suppose

No you don't understand how unbelievably broken time travel is. Tony could go to the Endgame future, have a fulfilling life then go back to the exact moment where that universe needed his sacrifice. He can legitimately do this, time travel allows him to have no risks involved because he has an entire fucking eternity to spend wherever he wants.

The Ancient One doesn't know that. She dies before that comes to pass. She literally states the point she's never been able to see beyond.

there are infinite timelines. each time dr strange looked forward in infinity war he killed everyone

14 million fucking times

fuck off one tony is basically nothing

>contracts ended
so their life ended (in the movies)

Steve Rogers knew about Kennedy, The Challenger and 9/11 and did nothing about it.

What a douche.

No the past timeline is still existing parallel to them. They fixed the current timeline by snapping everyone back to life and they fixed the old timeline by killing 2014 thanos, so their initial snap never happens.

The reason they brought the stones back to the old timeline because their old timeline will cease to exist without the stones being there. It was the modern timelines destiny for the stones to be destroyed so it doesn't matter if theres no stones in the modern timeline.

The reason they didn't bring back 2014 Tony and widow is because there's repercussions of them leaving their 2014 families and friends.

i do this unironically, why should i even bother to waste a brain cell over this

I wonder just how many fucked timelines she's created through all of her years messing with the time stone

Can someone tell me this, as I haven't watched it yet:

When they travel to the past, do they have to leave their portal open? Are they on a time limit while they're back there?

They couldn’t have just had them die in the final battle? They had to do this time travel bullshit?

I don't they took the stuff from just one timeline...And I am pretty sure they would not be able to put them back. I mean, following the time travel rules they told us...

how the fuck did dorcot strange know that was the timeline when he GIVES UP THE FUCKING TIME STONE

The specific example that user gave was yanking Tony out of the battle minutes before he died, creating a new timeline where there is no Tony to stop Thanos, allowing Thanos to snap the alternate 2023 timeline

They borrowed the stones and put them back.

Given that thanos had the time stone, wouldn't he have been aware of what they were going to do and thus not give them the opportunity to develop time travel in the first place?

if time travel does not effect your own timeline why does old captain america turn up?

that doesn't make any sense considering you don't need to use a stone to go to a new timeline

Imagine not being able to understand a kid movie and think it has plotholes

Repercussions? They can get 2014 Tony and Widow into the present. Do whatever they want or spend 10 years on the present. THEN return them to their universe on the coordinates of the same day they were taken. Is this not possible?

They could have gone back minutes before they died and just taken them from there.

Because young cap is frozen in ice while he's clapping Peggy's cheeks

You can't do that.

Except that's what they did

>their old timeline will cease to exist without the stones being there. It was the modern timelines destiny for the stones to be destroyed so it doesn't matter if theres no stones in the modern timeline.

not true whatsoever, they just want to preserve the history they know in that timeline like selfish pricks hence why steve rogers never prevented 9/11

How are they plotholes?
They established the rules for time travel and followed them
The only way I can see you think it would be a plothole is if you think Time travel works differently. And you can't know how time travel works.

>Also ned survived the snap and Peter didn't, why the fuck is ned still in high school 5 years later when Pete revives?

They had a great chance to get off Pete and Zendaya, the perfect timing
And put Gwen, Mary Jane and Harry
And again they said no.

why didn't thor just use his new axe to bifrost thanos and dump him into the devils anus?

They could travel back to any point and ambush Thanos, killing him before he has a chance to do anything. The only problem is I doubt the Tony of that time would willingly leave his wife and kid behind.

I meant, it wouldn't be possible following their rules. Let's say tony goes back 10 times to meet his father, he would never meet himself meeting him, every single time would just be part of 10 different branches...

no they can even dial in a different time and just hit a button on their suit and they'll time travel wherever. I don't even understand what the point of the quantum tunnel is once they do it the first time

why didn't they toss a few power limiters from Captain Marvel at Thanos?

the only reason hulk was the one to use the stones was so thanos could put his hand in the new gauntlet

There are no branches retard they established this. They are only interacting with 1 other timeline throughout the movie

Given that it was a iron man hand couldn't you have it stretch and shrink to fit pretty much anyone?

what was strange looking at in IW then?

He was looking at millions of POSSIBLE futures.

Gay alien porn

Should have gone for the multiverse route rather than the time travel. Just fuckin steal the stones from another reality and fuck their shit up to save our universe. Then in Avengers 5, you can get the two universes fighting each other. Pls vote for me to head Marvel Studios.

>Also ned survived the snap and Peter didn't, why the fuck is ned still in high school 5 years later when Pete revives?
This is what bugged me the most, yet the people that have argued with me about it insist it's not a gaping plot hole or shit writing. People really do turn their brains off for capeshit.
See

>Heil Hydra

What are their explanations? It does sound like a plothole to me.

Why didnt Strange just send that large amount of water into the ocean or something and continue to help out in the fight? That scene felt like Strange could of slapped some shit but nope, on literal shit guard duty and wasting time on something he could of handled in mere seconds.

No, user.

True. This is the biggest plothole. Not that time travel stuff that actually makes sense that people are throwing an autist fit over. They explained very fast in the first 30 min that thanos is easily killable without the stones. It's not like it was necessary for Tony to snap the army away because even 2 bit heroes like pepper pots were merking those jawns with ease.

Follow the convo:

I really hated that mechanic also when they gave jeff goldblum a remote to turn thor off

Kennedy:
Shouldnt have double crossed the mafia. No loss
Challenger:
Had to happen so that NASA would finally start moving forward with modernization
9/11:
Because deep down, even people from New York know its a cesspool and needs to be torched

Implying the MCU wasn't an inconsistent mess since the beginning.

That isn't the same 2023 timeline at that point though, it's yet another new branching timeline. They establish that changing the past doesn't change the future, user.

they needed an excuse for it to be that way to begin with. it would be a bit strange for it to be like the one ring for no reason

Why didnt they use the Time Stone to bring back Tony? Its not like they havent used the stone to revive people in the past before.

I dont think that's what happened. When Hulk snapped, they basically entered a new reality where the first snap never happened. Hulk just set everything back to normal. When strange brought everyone back- they hadn't actually died in that timeline. He just got a hold of them shortly before thanos arrived because he knew what was going to happen and informed them of the impending invasion and transported them all there.

What happened in the timeline where Loki escapes right after the battle of New York?

Shit, hold on. let me try to screenshot it.

loki hijinks in his upcoming tv show

You can establish anything you want but still violate the laws of logic.
if its possible to change the past (and thats what they did), then there are alternate timelines.
if its impossible to change past events, then no movie.
You cant say "time onky movies forward. the past is the future" like Banner said. its stupid and doesnt make sense.

>Seething because women are in capeshit.

Either it was undone when they went back even further in time to fix it or loki is off in some other timeline fucking around. The second makes less sense but since we know hes getting his own series it's probably more likely.

Is endgame good?

>seething
no one's mad at that laughable goofy ass scene, tranny.

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Its such a pandering cringy moment that normies could see it for what it was. AND WHY THE FUCK WAS PEPPER THERE

>then there are alternate timelines.
There are according to the rules set up in this movie.
>if its impossible to change past events, then no movie
But it is important to change your own past. They didn't do that. They created alternative timelines to take items out of the past to influence their own present but only back in the present.
>its stupid and doesnt make sense.
Not any less than any other time travel
If you think you can point to logical time travel then you are overestimating your own intelligence. No human can figure out time travel

Then there's no problem grabbing Tony and Black Widow from any point in the past and bringing them back.

Thanos did it in the last movie so he could kill vision again, ffs

It was a reference to the A-Force
The movie is full of references even to comic books like Captain saying "Hail Hydra"

It's whatever. He saw all the memories from nebula anyway. He could've deviced his own infinity gauntlet pre time jump or gone to the dwarves early to make another

So, when the heroes go back in time and 69 their past selves is it considered homosexual or masturbation? Did they explain this part?

I assume the other people in those timelines would then miss them.

didn't they specifically say changing the past didn't change the future? and they returned the stone to the 70s anyway, so how would it get undone?

No, but its the ultimate conclusion of other better movies so whatever. its like return of the jedi but makes no sense.

You will have to pay your disney+ subscription to find out ;)

That still fucks over those timelines they were taken from. Please try to think. Time still moves forward from when a change occurs. Changing the past doesn't affect the future. Say you want to kill the Tony-less 2023's 2014 Thanos in a surprise attack, you revisit that timeline AFTER Tony's disappearance but BEFORE the snap. Then it can work, but not prior. It wouldn't create a branch, as it's a continuous set of events in the same reality.

Am I the only one who wants more thanos farming kino? He looked like he had a good crop going there.

This.

also why Deadpool 2 was also trash

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If they returned the stone to the 70s theoretically they never showed up again in 2012 to fuck stuff up in that timeline. If they hadn't gone back, when they went back to the future it would have been changed because Loki took the stone. The same principal applies to going back. That set of avengers fixed that particular fuckup. I know they said going back doesnt change anything or whatever but that makes the most sense to me.

>save black widow as she’s falling to her death, hawkeye thinks she’s dead and the timeline remains the same
>save tony right before he uses the gauntlet, have someone else snap and sacrifice themselves (could be anyone, even one of the random monks at the end)

Nothing would change if they did this

its shit, tony should just go back to old timeline and try to save that timeline.

you can still dislike it even if it's for kids

>Actually, the entire plot of returning the stones is completely pointless. Time travel based on multiverse theory does not make you travel to specific verses or your own time, it just creates a parallel universe the moment you timetravel, and there is realistically no actual way of you travelling back into a previous timeline because once you try to travel back into it you just create a new universe instead. So tecnically there's a supreme sorcerer who is never going to get her stone back because cap time travelled into a new alternate universe where there is a supreme sorcerer waiting for her stone to come back, but is not the original one he wanted to give it back to.
Just great, thank you man.

>hawkeye thinks she’s dead and the timeline remains the same
They wouldn't create a soul stone if she is not actually dead.
>>save tony right before he uses the gauntlet, have someone else snap and sacrifice themselves (could be anyone, even one of the random monks at the end)
Technically possible but not really in character for Heroes.

Time travel is never possible anyways so trying to make sense of it is retarded.
I hate every movie that includes time travel other than Back to the future since that movie at least gave consequences when you go back in time.
Endgame just doesn't give a shit if you change the past it's like Warlords of draenor with a more retarded explanation.

No, in the movie Spiderman explicitly says he remembers the events of Infinity War, he turning into dust and so

yes, and that means during the movie they created a timeline where Loki escapes with the power stone

why didn't best avenger Captain Marvel use the gauntlet while she had it? or just fly away?

>They wouldn’t create a soul stone
True, how about pushing Clint off instead, delivering the soul stone to the rest of the avengers then fucking off with black widow to the present? Yeah they’d lose both of them but they would save the universe so it doesn’t really matter. The point is that all of this is possible with the movie’s time travel logic when it shouldn’t be.

Oh well that's stupid. I like my explanation more.

>TONY MY BOY

it's actually pretty easy to explain. Time moves in a jeremy bearimy fashion. The past is the future because time moved through both timelines in a linear manner. It just loops back to other points in history and branches those things off. It's pretty simple just think of there being only one true timeline that moves forward in its direction and it includes portions of others which branch off and continue in other directions.

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>be a single mom
>turn to ash one day while your baby is crying
>come back and suddenly it’s five years later. Your baby’s dead body is rotting next to you
>everyone celebrates the avengers saving the world yayyy :-)
DIRECTED BY THE RUSSO BROS

Ned flunked the next 5 years because he got ptsd from the snap.

Marvel should have turned heel and used the stone to kill tony. Everyone hates her already anyways.

>Also ned survived the snap and Peter didn't, why the fuck is ned still in high school 5 years later when Pete revives?

Do we know for sure what happened to who got snapped?

I don't understand your logic at all. Why do you think there are REAL rules for time travel. There aren't. Any movie can establish his own and they are all valid because we don't know how actual time travel works. We can just have theories

You should judge movies on how they follow their own rules they have set up. Not how you think something that doesn't exist should be set-up

Time travel is always fucking stupid.

Also ya know....he's really strong

You probably need to see Batman v Superman to fully appreciate this one

they didn't need to create one they already had one cap could have just shown up and traded it for her and then left, no sacrifice necessary

Wrong, you’re just watching the wrong media. Watch Timecrimes, Predestination, and Primer.

>they didn't need to create one they already had one
No they didn't. The former soul stone was always in the possession of a really powerful Thanos.

Endgame isn’t consistent with its rules. That’s the point. They blatantly say early in the movie to not “mess with anything” in the past then do exactly that for the next hour and a half. They remove any consequences for time traveling since timelines only get fucked if there’s no stones, which means they could borrow the stones as many times as they want. The only consequence the movie gives to anything is that using the gauntlet will kill the user (except hulk). That’s why the only tension in the movie comes from Tony dying

Or better yet imagine being unsnapped and coming back to many family members and friends having committed suicide

How did Nebula managed to get Thanos together with his ship and all his army to the future? I thought they needed sym substance for each person do time travel.

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Yes and Captain cleaned all that mess up

>dorcot

maybe the avengers does but thanos is a super genius

>Thanos Time is also "Jeremy" Time
based dubs and jeremy

I dont know but I want to fuck your avatar

Because you don't have a brain cell

If traveling back is traveling back into a DIFFERENT timeline then how did cap just grow old into the same timeline?

Different timelines. That also just makes the guys we've been with look like assholes since they are just jumping timelines just to completely fuck over tons of others just to reverse Thanos' bullshit in there own. Hope that gets acknowledged at some point.

I really liked Endgame, I really wondered why they decided to change Thanos' name to Trump but the scene where Captain Marvel yell "He will not divide us!" and then kicked Thanos in the balls was really well done. And I really liked the ending where Black Panther burned Thanos on a cross and said "That's what I call reparation!"

if he knew how time travel works he would've gotten the stones easier

Why the fuck is gauntlet-less Thanos is stronger than Gauntlet Thanos?
Retarded

How the fuck can alternate universes not exist? Thats the biggest plot hole.

Loki literally fled with the stone.

Cap FOUGHT HIMSELF. You mean to tell me Cap gets his ass kicked, gets up, and the events of the original movie happen like nothings wrong?

Even something as infantismal as having a conversation with someone in the past that lasts a second longer than an original interaction can have a massive impact on the universe.

Take DBZ as an example. Future Trunks goes back to warn everyone before hes born, fucks with things a bit. He interacts with the Z fighters, gives them food, takes up a few hours of their time, and leaves.

That food, that conversation, etc irrevocably displaces time so that Future Trunks birth would be marginally different and the circumstances if his birth would be changed forever. A different sperm fertilizes Bulmas egg, maybe the nutrients from food effect biological happenings in the parents, since it would have to be the EXACT moment of conception as the original to be the same Trunks.

Little Trunks is more like Future Trunks brother than actual Trunks. Different hair color, personality, etc.

My point is, even something as small as milliseconds can lead to drastic change. So Loki escaping or Cap getting beat up would ripple throughout that timeline and events would never be the same, ERGO an alternate reality. Returning the stone wouldnt really do anything after he fact, somewhere there is a reality where Loki got away with the cube.

that's what you think now...

maybe it's dependent on nebula using the pad in their timeline to anchor shit who the hell knows

So, are there 2 Caps or what?

he's not? gauntlet thanos lost. also gauntlet thanos was mostly playing with food younger thanos had decided it was personal at that point

>Guys we need a plot device to carry this convoluted story... I got it!

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>hurr time travel

Stop being a wannabe scientist. It's just a fun plot device.

E L E C T I O N H E I S T

2012 Loki also ran off with the Space Stone.

It would have worked a lot better with a multiverse approach. They could have gone to a reality where they team up with Thanos to fight the evil Avengers and take the stones from them.

>he's not? gauntlet thanos lost
He won.

No. Thanos was killable after having been severely injured and weakened by the stones. In IW we saw a stone-less Thanos defeat The Hulk easily.

>then kicked Thanos in the balls was really well done
Right after that, when Don Cheadle looked right at the camera and said "I'm with her" and held up a bottle of hot sauce...I cried man, really well done.

Just turn off your brain, bro. Its just a movie.

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He wasn't really actively trying to kill them in IW, he just wanted the stones and them to JUST WALK AWAY. But on EG he was pissed off.

He lost and would have died if he wasn't able to snap. He was using the gauntlet to fight them and thor had basically beaten him. What's the difference?

Unironically the worst part of the movie.

Tony didnt have to snap his fingers and die.
He had the gems, why didnt he just fly off with them? All they had to do was keep them from Thanos, it's not like he was a threat after Captain Marvel blew up the ship and took him one without breaking a sweat. Fuck, Wanda pretty much killed him without trying too. Why did he have to snap his fingers at all?

he already had the power stone at the beginning of IW

>Also ned survived the snap and Peter didn't, why the fuck is ned still in high school 5 years later when Pete revives?
shit i’m ok with all the other bullshit but this legitimately makes no sense

>be flying on an airplane
>get snaped
>5 years later, that , feels like a second later to you, suddenly appear in the sky
>fall straight down and die
>people falling from the sky litering cities with spashing corpses eveywhere

Yey avengers saved the day

WHY DIDN'T ENDGAME THANOS JUST TIME TRAVEL TO IW THANOS AND GET HIM TO SNAP EVERYONE INSTEAD OF JUST HALF?

Why didnt he show up to stop Thanos from destroying the infinity stones?

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just turn your brain off holy fuck it's a kids movie

Basedboys think they are smart enough to write coherent time travel stories. They are not.

Thanos didn't have access to time travel, did he?

>come back to world that's adjusted to only feeding half of the original population
>starve to death
the Avengers are the heroes?

this, it just made me squirm in my seat

why else would he be surprised to see Peter?

>Stan Lee died for this

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smart man

last time he saw Peter he was off fighting some aliens

webm request pls
Thanos sitting and turning into dust

Which he could only handle because he was a Hulk-level badass.

This. The only explanation I could think of at the time is Cap went back in time to a point after he was frozen. So while one Cap was frozen, the other Cap who came from the future went on to live a normal life. The problem is there is still two caps. They show the old Cap at the end but where was the other one? The Avengers seeing their past selves proved that two of them can exist in the same timeline.

>Why did Ned act like He hadn't seen him in years
Last he saw him he was going to a space ship. For all he knew he was DEAD. That was him excited that his super hero friend didn't die.

If you want to get technical position is relative since everything is moving in the universe. So the avengers that got dusted on titan would have likely reappeared floating in the middle of space since titan and earth changed their relative positions. The same can be said about the rest of the universe that was snapped.

I can't believe Doctor Strange was a member of the Islamic State all along

I am with you on that.

>Primer.
see I watched this and now everything else sucks

>When DBZ has a more consisten time travel than this shit
Holy fuck

god damn hulk was useless

So in the coming Doctor Strange 2, the Time Stone is still destroyed, right? Strange will not have it?

fucking Kingdom Hearts has a more logical time travel mechanic in it
Endgame is a goddamn disgrace

...technically he was the only one able to bring back all the dead people without dying in the process

Time travel is a cool plot device in theory but it breaks down under minor scrutiny. Present day Cap went back in time and returned the stones. He decided to stay behind and live a normal life with Peggy and the old Cap you see at the end is the same Cap who went to the return the stones. Ok that’s fine but where is the other Cap? If you go back in time you still exist in the same timeline as your past self. So is one Cap frozen while future Cap stayed with Carter? That’s also fine but again, where is the other Cap?

I don't get it.
In Antman 2, the wasp spend real world decades in the quantum world, and when she got out, she was an old lady, as old as her husband. So time seems to pass normaly there.

Yet here, for Scott, 5 years = 5 hours.

What am I missing?

Thanos had all the time he wanted to study the Pym particles and make more

If you want to be realistic almost everybody on Earth should have been dead five years later, if not earlier.

even better

I think schools shut down after the snap

People who got snapped remember getting snapped. Peter remembered getting snapped. Just seems kind of traumatic. Especially after being given the details from those who lived about the what being snapped actually meant.

But why is he the same age then?

>So is one Cap frozen while future Cap stayed with Carter?
Yes

Why didn't he build his own time machine while he was at it? All it takes is modeling a mobius strip

Funny bait user have a (You)

>They can time travel, shrink and grow at will, use magic and travel faster than light
>But they can't clone someone's mind and give him a clone body
Nice fucking "sci fi" retards.

Anyone else want a buddy movie with Rocket cracking wise and blowing shit up withNebula being the stone-cold straight-faced bad-ass bitch?

There isn't a consistent rule. Any amount of time in the quantum realm could be any amount of time in the real world. Scott got lucky only being in there for five hours/five years.

what could they possibly escalate to next franchise?

Galactus
X-Men multiverse

Dude, he had the 6 fucking gems and got pierced by stormbreaker.
How the fuck does a weaker version of him with no cosmic powers tank the same AND STRONGER attacks?

Because they're bad writers and need an asspull to keep the gravy train rolling.

i want nebula to sit on my face

>fight with yourself but nothing changes in your timeline
>go back in time to live there and grow old in your timeline
bravo russo

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How does the timemachine is suppose to work?

Like, they need the suit and the pym particle to come back, but how captain and tony were able to go back in time from the past, only the suit is actually needed to travel? They can send info through time to give new instruction to the machine? The machine is actually useless then and you can be just fine with the suit only?

Taking the stones from the past caused that specific timeline to branch off from the original, it was only corrected by returning the stones to those branching timelines at the moment they were originally taken causing the branches to fold back into the main timeline. The moment Cap fought himself was essentially erased

would have been a fine reason to have Captain Marvel there, and gimp her power level for future movies...

Because he's an arrogant cunt with a god complex that wanted to make a point

Merge with the Star Wars universe

That's actually pretty cool. And I absoluely dislike capeshit; I only come here to watch people bitch about it.

we dbs now
drangon balls = infinity stones

Think of the time machine in the original timeline as a refueling station or something. The watches bring them back to the machine for an instant and then they pop into the timeline selected.

I’m sure has been brought up but antman always bothered me. He should weigh 200lbs. You can’t flick him off your shoulder Tony. Also, when he gets big, he’s 100ft tall 200lbs man. He would be almost useless. The shrinking and growing on his organs is a whole mother set of worms.

last time he saw him was jumping out of a boss to fight aliens?

captain america set up his trip to be a one way mission. he went back, met up with peggy and married her in private.

hulk established that time is a straight line. things that have to happen, happen.

so when captain america went back in time, there were two in that time line. the one with blueballs doing heroic stuff and the endgame cpt america who lived quietly with her married.

in winter soldier it showed she had kids and was married but they never said to who. it was cpt america.
he just lived the life he wanted and walked up to the bench at just the right time

more people need to play steins;gate and get a handle on time travel, including the writers.

me too

>For all he knew he was DEAD
With this reasoning, and with Ned not having aged (obviously), you're implying Ned was dusted during the snap along with the cast of Homecoming that makes it to Far From Home without aging. We'll just discuss Ned to keep things simple. We agree that Ned did not survive the snap and was brought back with Peter.

As we saw in HC, Ned was witness to how much of badass Peter is. The elevator scene is a perfect example of this. Later, Peter no doubt informed him of the building collapsing on top of him where he found the strength of will to not only escape, but to also take the massive beating from Vulture then be victorious. Of all the people that Ned could reasonably assume can handle themselves during IW, Peter is at the top of that list. If anything, Peter should have been the one overjoyed that Ned was alive and well, then run to hug him because Ned is a just mere mortal. Peter worries incessantly over his friends and family. It's completely out of character for Peter to be so nonchalant at seeing Ned the first time back after the two of them were "undusted."

He knows how the future plays out, why doesn't he warn the avengers about the threat of Thanos for the sake of saving Tony's life in his timeline?

he tried to get the stones the easiest way he could think of: going to a point where they were all gathered together.

This is actually how it is in the comics. Different universes sometimes have Infinity Stones that are the wrong colour which means they're a failed universe. I was really hoping that they'd steal the Infinity Stones from another universe and cause that one to become the Cancerverse, cue a fucking Marvel Zombies movie.

because doctor who

Was the gay moment annoying? I hate forced gay moments in mainstream movies.

Why didn't Thanos just create infinite resources?

I forgot about it until you brought it up, at least they force that shit in the very beginning. The girl power one is a lot worse

No. It was a totally irrelevant character. Only idiots actually got bothered by it

There is literally nothing wrong with most of these characters, mgtow.

Bruh. That's how Savitar was created.

Yeah it was pretty annoying but then Captain America bunches the gay dude and tells him to get the fuck out, which drew big laughs from my opening night.

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Dr. Strange.

There was only one way out of 14 million. Stark had to die.

There, now shut up already.

I hate movies with agendas as much as the next guy but I honestly can't see how you can have a problem with that one. Are we just supposed to ignore that homosexuals exist? It was a tame and hardly worthy of any controversy or attention. Dude just said he's gay. Woop-dee-doo. If Captain America had stood up and applauded him for being stunning and brave, I'd agree with you.

>Oh hey look, new leads are all non-white
>Oh hey look, all the new kids being introduced are all females
>Oh hey look, all female characters even those with absolutely no backstory at all poses like a rock band while the weak white males are all down on the ground eating dirt
I mean come on, are people just ignoring this or what? A purely political movie where the torch is handed to the fresh non-white people and toxic masculinity is defeated. Also that gay guy moment.. ugh, someone said forced agenda? Because it was.

On the whole movie part though. What can stop them now? They have introduced time travel to the Marvel garbage, the movies about casual bad guys are absolutely useless now since everyone can just question every movie from now on.
>"Oh Spiderman fights another rock giant guy and lost the first fight, why don't he just call new (B)lack captain america and tell them to time travel to before the fight and beat him together?"
Imagine getting non-jewish writers to direct a movie like this, it would have been on a whole different level.

Nebula is one of the best parts of the movie, that scene was just off putting

what gay moment?

Yeah, I'm curious about that, if it will have the same cultural effect of TLJ.

Also let's not forget the genius of Tony Stark.
>"Damn, it can't be done bro. Time travel is impossible and stuff"
>Spends an hour in his room
>"Lol holy shit nevermind guys, I just created a time travel gps XD"

Yeah, they should have sent a text message to Peter Parker's mom in the past so that he could be born as a girl instead.

today I will teach Yea Forums something about Disney
notice at the center of the milkers of Captain Marvel, you will find an X, but only if you also account for the background image.
this might seem stupid or schizo but my point will become clear in a few minutes

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Some sort of Crisis movie
Would also be the only way to possibly fix all of the gaping holes this movies leaves, many of which have been outlined in this thread
>where are the infinity stones in the main timeline, and if they are gone, what is stopping evil from spreading?
>how did captain america age in the main timeline if jumping between timelines creates separate timelines
>where is loki
etc
A massive clash between timelines would be cool. Everyone vs everyone. What EG should have been

did somebody find the 3 hours version ? if yes, is there a after credit scene or just some bullshit with 10 years passed?

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I’m SUPER disappointed they decided to off Tony instead of getting old Nebula to use the gauntlet to stop Thanos. It would’ve been a nice reference.

>pointing out the X
now, why is it there

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You guys were dumb enough to pay for this shit and know what Disney is capable of, especially after Captain Marvel. You all deserve shit movies.

Start of the movie. Cap is leading some group therapy session. Guy talking had just gone on a date with *gasp* another man.

>is there a after credit scene
There's just a sound of maybe a hammer striking an anvil from what I've read

excellent taste

I'm sure they can and they will. Also why is Spider Man's cast still in high school? Shouldn't they have moved on in 5 years. Also seeing the snap doesn't kill anyone at all...is this even a Victory?

Are you trying to say the 'X' is meant to symbolize them crossing out her breasts, as if to subconsciously make us think she isn't female?

Is it to make her chest look larger than it is?

Is it because they generally put their symbols on their chests?

suddenly a bunch of "S" appears

That was their original plan but RDJ said no mas.

forgot pic

no, it's more about the X

guess what letter I'll find next

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Oh, god. You're trying to start another Lion King / Little Mermaid poster controversy.
Why am I in this board again.

penny Parker in the mcu when

>Bring the Black Order back
>They do even less than they did in the first movie

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yup, here we go

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Please don't be 'e' and 't'

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Should have found an X-MEN instead.

If he did that; how else would we know how strong and badass Captain Marvel is?

I mean, reddit is not so bad. I'm sure r/movies is less retarded nowadays. Can't be worse than this.

The fact that someone still watch these movies doesn't make any sense

Maybe it's their way to reintroduce all the snapped people back to "society".

There's literally nothing else to watch. That's the reason.
Movies are all just a big fucking circle jerk nowadays, it's truly sad to see how people are ok with studios going this route

that's correct

>fgsfds

Are you a schizophrenic?

Yeah. That irked me. BTTF made damn sure to keep things correct, it’s when the third movie happens that shit gets iffy.

>Kill your back in time former self
>nothing happens to you
Can somebody explain what happened here?

So why is everyone at Peter Parkers school still the same age? Shouldn't half of them be older and working by now? That struck me the exact second he saw his fat asian friend

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that's the only part that really stuck out to ne

>BTTF made damn sure to keep things correct
I agree their logic makes more sense on the surface than endgme, but there are errors in BttF TT logic. They cover it in the DVD collection. You could just watch a youtube video that goes over them, too.

maybe, but this trick only seems to work with Disney covers
try it yourself, find the X's in pic related

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Wasn't the guy talking one of the Russo brothers?

>Bro... i already graduated.

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I means she and fat Asian also got snapped.

The only character from Homecoming we saw was Ned. The others were just a bunch of random kids.

Probably most "returned" kids weren't going to the school the day after since they wouldn't even be enrolled anymore after five years.

Peter and Ned just agreed to met there for whatever reason.

>Don't do anything to your past selves or else...
>Kill Nebula
>Kill Thanos and their army

So where's the else? you mentioned they followed their own rules but they didn't

Infinity War was better

Yep. No argument there.

>Almost none of those characters know each other
>They band together somehow in 1 second
It was forced as fuck
They should be organically and naturally fight alongside the other Avengers instead of going for a cheap pandering forced scene

Some of them were also literally hundreds of meters away with no way of moving that fast (Okoye and Mantis) but suddenly teleported there because reasons

I'm pretty sure yeah

that's definitely a yes, then?

>Okoye and Mantis
And Shuri and Nebula, they literally teleported all to that possition

>Cap goes back in time and spends the rest of his life boning Peggy into old age
>Peggy dies in Civil War (2016)
>Cap is still alive after Endgame (2018-2019)
I'm confused, was old Cap hiding in a corner every time young Cap came to visit old Peggy so young Cap wouldn't find out what was going to happen in his future?

thank you wakanda for saving the day once again

i think its implied that hes been working on it for the 5 years post-snap or even longer

>They completely forgot about Siff

I torrented it you fucking faggot nigger

old cap was there waiting to reveal himself until young cap went back in time. so the "other one" you're talking about is now back in time.

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go brother inshallah we meet again

I don't think school would be in session for a bit after half of the planet getting dusted

this its like these people don't care about the comics

Yeah, that was the only part of the movie where it felt super forced, it was quite the meme.

the ancient one explained it. alternate realities branch off the original timeline. hulk says nothing permanent will happen if they bring the stones back to the point they took them from, like they were never gone, but shit doesn't work out perfectly and now multiple realities are changed as the cost of snapping back half the universe's population. if they're smart, future movies will explore this. probably guardians 3 in some way related to gamora and nebula.

Watching the youtube video actually completes the paradox into the normal timeline, user

Not it hasnt.
It is heavily implied he retired to live life with his daugther and wife.
I think they jumped the shark on this too.
NAY GUYS TIME TRAVEL IS PREPOSTEROUS

next day:

GUYS IVE INVENTED TIME TRAVEL

Really?

Don't question it, it just works. Unless you actually know how time travel works, you don't do you?

that wakanda women killed one just like it was nothing

Because Lang gave him Hank Pym's designs, and the idea of using the quantum space or whatever.

It's still too soon.
I get it he's hyper genius super playboy, but jeez man, give him at least a month.

No. Just no. They literally explained that you can't change your timeline, the whole movie is based on that statement, and then, Captain fucking did it.

Did Gamora go back to the past after the battle? I don't remember seeing her around in the end scenes
Either way, seems like Guardian 3 is kind of fucked
Either:
a) they get past Gamora, force her back into the team and pretend everything is the same as before even though everyone (minus Nebula) would be a complete stranger to her, or
b) they come with some turbo asspull to get the real Gamora back, which would contradict that weirdass rule they introduced about not bringing back people who were killed in exchange for the soul stone EVEN IF YOU'RE WEARING A GLOVE THAT GIVES YOU LITERAL FUCKING OMNIPOTENCE

>dorcot

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I think Gamora got erased when the other villains got erased. I don't recall her appearing in any scenes after that.

because Tony is a gigantic gaping asshole so he's glad he's dead.
gj captain !

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Cape shit is so blacked now lmao

gamora didnt get snapped
she died before it when thanos sacrificed her

dont worry, i also was confused

You're clearly still confused