He still won

bruh just turn ur brain off lol

Do you fuck bois never listen?
Dr. Strange's movie, the Ancient One, ant man and the wasp movie, banner, and tony all mention that time travel involves the quantum realm and alternate realities. AKA the marvel multi verse.

When they go back in time and alter things they create an alternate marvel verse that is a different reality, thats why the ancient one mentioned 3 times that they would mess up her reality if banner took the time stone.

Movies literally give you audio and visual clues as to whats going on and you dribbling retards still don't get it.
This is why movies get dumber and dumber.

I enjoyed endgame, but infinity war is better and shouldve been the end.
If MCU wasn't a multi billion dollar series that was going to continue, it wouldve been the end .

And no matter what Thanos still wins in every time line. Thanks for proving that.

the explanation is always going to be whatever they need for the plot to work in that specific scene.

they know their audience doesn't really pay attention or care about consistency, any more than the comic audience.

Nope he loses in the timeline that thanos left from to go to the final battle earth.
His old reality doesn't have a thanos anymore.
Technically thats the only reality where thanos doesn't in infinity war.

Yes. He wins for 5 years then all he did turns undone and he dies.

No, it never would have been the end.

He won and then he lost.

Yup. This movie abides by multiverse theory of timetravel rather than the Novikov self consistency principle. It’s cheap scapegoatism in movies in my opinion. Nobikov Consistency time travel movies/stories are way more impressive than multiverse ones. LOST, Quantum Break, The Incal, Overlords of War, etc. As opposed to shit like Looper or Avengers where time travel is just a way to escape responsibility in storytelling.

infinity war is very entertaining the first time through where you don't realize that Thanos is a walking trope subversion. it's not a good movie: it's literally western Dragon Ball Z with powerlevels and characters doing whatever helps the plot, but I didn't hate it.

The 20mins between them Killing OG Thanos and going back in time was good.

Thor in Asgard was touching.

Renner's intro scene and sword fight was Kino
>The other 2hr40mins sucked ass

he wasn't alive to see his defeat. he was killed while winning

idk what the problem is, its pretty well laid out and doesn't need alternate explanations. people are just retarded.

if you go back in time to change something you go to an alternate reality, if you change anything you split that reality in two and created another one on top of that. If you don't want to change anything you stay in your reality.

This is why steve didn't attack hydra or stop ww2 early, he didn't want to change the main timeline. Honestly the worst thing you can say about the cap ending is that it retcons whoever peggy's husband was originally written as. otherwise as long as she keeps it secret nothing else changes with cap staying to grow old.

>if you die when you fight, you win

>His snap is undone
>He and all his followers are killed: TWICE

>”Still won”

How
He inconvenienced everyone for 5 years (seemingly 5 seconds for the dusted people) and caused the deaths of black widow, tony stark and gamora and star lords relationship)

Retard that you are, that you didn't even notice Marvel fucked up their own escapegoat of ''Multiverse'' by having old Cap giving Falcon the shield. Were it really a multiverse, how the fuck would Old Cap give Falcon the shield, and why, because they'd never even meet?

>Imagine trying to think this much watching a Marvel movie
Incels need to die

see
idiot.

I fucking hate incels

Then explain how old steve showed up at the end

you cant explain it. its a huge plot hole.

because he was in his main timeline.

>if you don't want to change anything you can stay in your own reality

He returned the stones and then went back to his reality instead of the alternate ones to stay with peggy and because he didn't change anything there were two captain americas, old steve pretending to not be captain america with peggy and the one that got unfrozen in the ice.

Old cap comes back and sits on the bench after ice steve leaves to return the stones.

Its not that hard.

Would it been better if future thanos met past thanos?

I think you're all wrong

I think they adequately explained its 1 time line.

Thats why they have to return the stones to their original time and place without the past being any the wiser.
Thats why when loki got the space stone cap and tony just went back further.

the trouble is you can't have that logic and also have narrative storytelling, because it makes all character's actions meaningless.

Rick & Morty is literally a whole show built on pointing out how stupid alternate reality theory is if you don't hide what it actually means from the audience.

remember, the only reason there's just 1 reality where Thanos doesn't win is because Dr Strange says so. there ought to be infinite realities where Thanos doesn't win, infinite realities where none of the characters ever existed, etc.

the real reason is because comic writers want to be able to reset a continuity whenever they like to keep writing stories about the same characters.

They did that because they needed more pym particles and had no where else they could go but that point in time to get both.

She only clearly explained how to split a reality not that it was all one main timeline.

They clearly have said through Dr. Strange that the multi verse exists and its how you create magic. There's more than one timeline.

>thinking you need time travel to create a multiverse
>not knowing every physically consistent possibility already exists in a universe demonstrated to have at least three spatial dimensions and at least two temporal

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so 14,000,036 views into the future is infinite?
There was only 1 win out of what he saw, not out of all realities.

There are multiple timelines and universes, but the whole point the ancient one and hulk was discussing was that if they borrow stones from the past, they permanently doom that timeline unless they go give it back the second they took it.
It's not showed at the end of the film, but you can make a good guess that for example on the rooftop when the ancient one gave banner the timestone, a second or two after banner left with it, captain america came back and gave the ancient one the timestone back, basically saving that timeline and the others from being "stoneless", merging them back with the main timeline

Yikes, you brainlets really have no logical argument.

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that scene was like saying "million to once chance this works!" and nothing more. Dr strange didn't even tell anyone what they needed to do. the whole scene was meaningless suspense-building.

IT doesn't "merge" them with the main timeline, it just keeps them in line.
They are still separate. Thats the key, each alternate reality is separate following the same line, if you mess it up you doom that realities timeline, but it still stays separate.

>each alternate reality is separate following the same line

lmao what?

I mean you can have that opinion but he explains to tony he can't say or it doesn't happen, pointing to the fact that in one reality that strange saw he told what happened and they failed.

idc if you don't like it, but thats a legit explanation.

????

if they weren't separate when they stole the stones their timeline woudlve changed too.

Idk how the concept of separate realities following the same timeline is hard for you.

>Dr strange didn't even tell anyone what they needed to do. the whole scene was meaningless suspense-building.
He probably tried that in 7 million timelines and it ruined everything. There are some themes about inevitability and destiny in these movies, knowing how super heroes operate, if Strange said "Okay you have to lose and then five years later you will have a daughter and you don't want to but you will perfect time travel and then unsnap people and then snap a different Thanos that time traveled to the future that's how you win" there's a 100% chance they would fuck it up

have sex

If strange saw the future that means he knew quill was gonna fuck up
Why didn't he knock him out and defeat thanos right there on titan?
Endgame would've never needed to happen

Guys bare with me but I have a theory which corrects any plot hole you can think of and elevates the thematic elements of the movie to godlyhood.

Thanos post-snap realizes that simply reducing the population of the universe isn't enough, from there he devises a perfect plan during the 5 years interim, where he intricately plots a series of events that will ultimately lead to the all the dusted to not only return but also bring proper balance to the universe. It wasn't mere coincidence that the Avengers conveniently picked up on Thanos location, this was already a part of his plan, as they arrive the person they meet is matter of fact not the real Thanos, but a simulacrum created through the Infinity Gauntlet which is in actually still intact on the real Thanos.

Meanwhile, Ant Man conveniently escapes the Quantum Realm, again this wasn't a fluke, Thanos willed him to escape it since Ant Man is necessary for his plan. Again we later find out there is just enough pym particles for one trip, again mere coincidence? Or did Thanos reduce it to that number to ensure the future will unfold according to his masterplan?

So essentially, the past (evil) Thanos dies for good, and so does the facsimile Thanos on the Titan II, while the real Thanos esentially has ascended into a deity who has course corrected the universe and brought true balance as his destiny foretold. There were some causalities among the Avengers, but these were unfortunately necessary for the greater good as per Thanos's divine calculations.

So there you have it, Thanos is still alive and is a living messiah. Everything unfolded exactly as he had planned and as he willed it for the betterment of the world. He will receive no praises, no songs will be dedicated in his name, and his name will be uttered with contempt, but he doesn't need it. He made the ultimate sacrifice, a total selfless act for the greater good. Thanos is literally Jesus Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit.

Amen.

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Russos have said even if he lost the gauntlet there he wouldve defeated them and got it back.
Thanos is stronger than all of them without the stones.

Reminder, millions of timelines. He wins.

but of course, if Strange had said "LOL IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU LOSE JUST USE TIME TRAVEL LOL" it also would have exposed the absurdity of the story that was being told to the audience. gee I wonder which of the two explanations was the real reason they wrote that scene? it's bad writing m8

I didn’t say you needed time travel to create multiverses. I said that the shittier time travel stories utilize multiverse theory to escape the responsibility of tying up the consequences of their actions to other characters. It allows them to forget about stuff like paradoxes. Cope more capeshitter brainlet.

Thanos already had 4 stones at that point. He only need Time and Mind. They had already lost before the battle on Titan.

>Why didn't he knock him out and defeat thanos right there on titan?
Because that would be one of the 14 million times where Thanos gets serious and simply snaps the necks of every Avenger and puts the glove back on.

have sex

the things is that he didn't need to tell them anything at all, including that he'd been looking at a specific number of realities: because the scene and his words were for the audience, not a narrative creation of writers creating characters doing psychologically plausible things.

Lmao what
If they each took a stone or something and strange/Iron man went full power on him it would've been gg right there
They also coule've just killed him while mantis was on his head

Thanos is in love with Death, meaning he gets to see her and wins by proxy

this is the level of seriousness these movies deserve.

>lol Thanos was just pretending to be hypnotyzed

i mean they couldve, but the guys making the movie and helped write it said that they wouldn't, so you can lmao all you want.

>lol why didn't they just cut off his arm and behead Thanos with portals infinity war wouldn't have happened!!!1
You're literally a muslim and you can't grasp the difference between Good and Evil.

And then he fucked his niece
LMAO

at least I can grasp the difference between Good and Crap.

It’s funny they use the word incels when they themselves probably look like the biggest soiboi incels in the world.

>Takes off gauntlet
>Strange sends it to Scarlett witch
>She destroys the stones
Here

too bad you don't have control over what goes into the movie.

overrated movie and villain

>thinks he can just portal the infinity gauntlet with the space stone + others on it willy-nilly
I can literally hear you drooling across the internet.

The only way evil can win is for a good man to stand and do nothing. It is evil to let evil happen when you have the power to stop it.

>Thor can knock his head off with an axe but energy blasts from Iron Man can't even if Captain America can hold him off with just strength for...

it's just whatever the scene needs, there's nothing else going on. literally Dragon Ball Z/Harry Potter.

why the fuck does this film cuck thor so hard?
who did hemsworth shittalk to get treated this way???

Cap found a way to come back to the prime universe after living in an alt reality. Just because it didn't show how he did that doesn't change the explanation of time travel given in the movie.

such as if you were to hold onto a Time stone that can be used to kill half the universe for centuries instead of just destroying it?

Unless there's a timeline where half of all life is gone, he did not win.

He was living in that reality in the past not an alternate one.

Didn't Strange look at 15 million timelines and found only one where he lost?

Proof? The movie said that is impossible.

The russos and the other two fuckbois and kevin feige write the story, its whatever htey want it to be, and they specifically said hes stronger than all the people on titan without the gauntlet.

So yes, thanks for clearly pointing out the scene is whatever the creators want it to be, just like every other created work.

It was impossible until tony came in with a device that lets you navigate the quantum realm.

It lets you choose what reality to go to and what part in time, even if that part in time is your own.
You just can't change anything big in your timeline or you fuck it up. like taking the stones.

No, Hulk says it's not live Back to the Future. This is after Tony solves everything and they're testing the time travel.

>If you travel to the past that past becomes your future and your former present becomes the past which can't now be changed by your new future.

You can only go to an alt reality that's in the past and then come back to your own reality a few seconds later. Your prime reality still flows forever forward.

So the main timeline has no more stones and is thus doomed?

I'll have to watch again, because thats the only way he couldve been able to show up in that reality without coming back on the pad.

hulk didn't fully understand time travel shown by his attempts at it before tony.
but either way you're right the explanation for the rest of the time travel is still there.

Superhuman strenght, regeneration, life expentancy.

He could have literally stayed in 1945. I am not surprised if he can live past 140 years with his super human strength.

you contradicted yourself.

you said that going back in time alters things and creates a new timeline.

then you just walked back on that and said that the ancient one's timeline will get altered if banner took the time stone.

i didn't walk back on anything i just worded it weird.

There are 1-infinite earth universes.
if you mess up one of those earths that earth gets an alternate timeline to the main timeline they all follow.
Thats why the ancient one in on that earth didn't want banners earth to keep the time stone.

Its a movie. You folks need to have sex

And did you not listen at her and banner explicitly agreeing that returning the time stones REMOVES alternate realities? How the fuck do you think old cap showed up in normal time line?

>Thanos already killed half of life, that cannot be undone
They didn't 'time travel undo' it, they 'Infinite powerd magic gloved' it.