>Infantilization is the MCU game plan. A serious publication is obligated to point out similarity to the free-college, no-student-loans, socialized-medicine political promises that stoke immaturity. Also note how Endgame secularizes religious allegories. The end-times premise is hollow, just an excuse for the usual sci-fi, CGI destruction. Even Thor’s junked-up Norse myth and Black Panther’s purely cosmetic Afrocentricity join the trend of ignoring spiritual faith and trivializing national heritage.
>The directors Anthony and Joe Russo do routine CGI action, but they don’t know how to supply meaning to any of the goings-on, and that’s the major difference between MCU and the D.C. Comics Universe, which advanced from Christopher Nolan’s nihilism to Zack Snyder’s visual richness and emotional depth. Snyder’s Watchmen was the first comic-book movie to deal with mature themes and play out a credible moral dilemma.
>Going deeper with Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Snyder’s art angered the kiddies. MCU fans don’t know what great filmmaking is. They defer to their post–Star Wars indoctrination. The Russo brothers’ big battle isn’t a climactic summation, just a clash of CGI dots like the indecipherable, interminable Lord of the Rings skirmishes. And the sentimental, nostalgic farewell to two beloved Avengers is hokey. Snyder rescued comic-book movies from nihilism and juvenilia, making modern myths worthy of adult spirituality and politics. Avengers: Endgame takes place in a violent kindergarten.
>Adults no longer outgrow comic books. Hollywood prefers that they hang on to the adolescent illusion of carefree, escapist pleasure by pretending that the form’s juvenile cynicism is a sign of sophistication — replacing the traditional sources of imaginative thinking. The cultural monopoly represented by the Marvel Cinematic Universe in its latest release, Avengers: Endgame, depends on geeked-up viewers telling themselves that they are having a major cultural experience.
Woah...
Aaron Richardson
I'm not gonna read all that shit, but Marvel's game plan is the same as Volkswagen and Apple: the commercialization of identity.
Nicholas Kelly
>It's an allegory for radical socialism What a stupid roodypoo
Anthony Reyes
*ahem* >The film’s one good scene has Thor (Chris Hemsworth) traveling back to the day his mother Frigga (Rene Russo) dies; he’s unable to change fate but gets a last chance to re-experience womblike love. It rips off Spielberg’s A.I., and Marvel fans probably won’t recognize that it also rips off Thornton Wilder’s Our Town — that’s part of the MCU cultural cheat. Spielberg’s and Wilder’s larger issues are eclipsed by Frigga’s flattery: “Everyone fails at who they’re supposed to be. The measure of a hero is how they succeed at being who they are.” She rings the Millennial psychobabble bell. >Fans are permitted to go forward and pre-order their Toy Story 4 tickets with no other sense of responsibility.
Furniture and medical treatment to heal a serious physical condition are very different things.
This is like liberal whores comparing having tons of sex partners to trying a bunch of breakfast cereals
Don't be like them.
Dylan Young
I was going to type something along the lines of this but you have to realize the people that save and share those images are some of the dumbest people to ever grace this planet
Wyatt Flores
You arent entitled to either a couch or insulin. People have to work and you arent entitled to their labor for free. Socialized medicine is basically saying a doctor has an obligation to heal your disease and give you their labor. Inn Amwrica we believe if you work hard enough then you will deserve medical care
Joseph Murphy
That’s not even a good comparison. If can’t purchase the couch I’ll find a cheaper couch, but if I get a professional diagnosis and can’t afford the medicine I’ll fucking die.
Doctors make far above average anyways which would still be the case with or without socialized medicine. Price hikes are done by big pharma and they are the ones profiting not the doctors, dumbfuck.
Caleb Lopez
On the other hand, the founding myth of liberal economics is the intersection of supply and demand. "Buy this or you'll die," for most people, represents unlimited demand, so the whole argument becomes overtly absurd.
Brayden Kelly
>work hard >can’t work harder because I have a disease >lmao retard should’ve worked harder guess he deserves to die :) Fuck lazy people am I right?
Cameron Carter
How is that my problem? Its not my body
Brayden Lopez
>The cultural monopoly represented by the Marvel Cinematic Universe in its latest release, Avengers: Endgame, depends on geeked-up viewers telling themselves that they are having a major cultural experience.
Rased and bed-pilled
Luke Hughes
Until it happens to you.
Colton Howard
Borderline incomprehensibly stupid within the first four sentences.
Luis Rogers
You aren't entitled to protection from the police or judicial system when somebody tries to harm you, you aren't entitled to roads to drive on, you aren't entitled to the fire department saving your ass in the event that your house burns down.
I have a right to decide democratically which of these services should be paid for by my tax dollars.
Austin Scott
I hate politics in films and criticism. Why can't people make art without resorting to cancerous didacticism.
Colton Powell
He's saying Marvel is replacing religion and meaning with itself. Marvel has convinced brainlets like Grace Randolph that it is a cultural phenomenon, when it's just more mindless action and fake nostalgia.
Sebastian Miller
>depends on geeked-up viewers telling themselves that they are having a major cultural experience. Fucking this
Ian Williams
>You aren't entitled to protection from the police or judicial system when somebody tries to harm you, you aren't entitled to roads to drive on, you aren't entitled to the fire department saving your ass in the event that your house burns down. We ARE entitled to those things under the constitution. Those are services funded by tax dollars. Medicine is funded by corporations.
Adam Campbell
movies that don't say anything about culture or politics or religion are basically just visual candy or sentimental trash
Christopher Fisher
>Fans are permitted to go forward and pre-order their Toy Story 4 tickets with no other sense of responsibility. hello epic department
Police, roads, and fire are not in the Constitution, and (for the most part) they aren't even handled at the federal level. (There's some federal involvement with roads due to the interstate system, but of course that isn't mandated in any way, and there's some federal involvement in police procedure.) Likewise, an awful lot of medical research is federally funded, what with the NIH and the NSF.
Jayden Peterson
Why can't entertainment just be entertainment? Now movie reviews are all irrelevant politics too? Bummer.
Isaiah White
>movies that don't say anything about culture or politics When I want agenda pushing/partisan whining I'll watch a political ad thank you very much.
>Inn Amwrica we believe if you work hard enough then you will deserve medical care >"We" Most people here support universal healthcare.
John Gray
No they dont. Americans hate socialism.
Gabriel Morgan
That's not socialism.
Grayson Perry
Good points but >Snyder Cringe
Caleb Mitchell
> you need a couch to survive
Oh boy. Hope this thread doesn't become with people that defend their military budget/Israel schemery but chimp out at the thought of affordable healthcare
Matthew Sullivan
Every single faggot who promotes this kind of social darwinism always turns coat when it's his ass on the line and he can't afford medicine.
But it is. Takong from me through taxation to pay for lazy people to have medicine is socialism
Dominic Scott
We are in the Onions Ages
Dominic Cook
Objectively false.
Evan Martin
The military is useful and has a purpose. Literally every job offers health insurance
Luis Gutierrez
You have to learn to appreciate how the corporations in america managed to brainwash the common folk into believing they don't deserve education and healthcare. Truly a magnificent feat.
Dominic Mitchell
The majority actually support those things; a lot of people are probably just unaware of that because the """moderate""" right manages to make itself look much larger and more popular than it really is.
Brayden Ramirez
How is it not? It makes it seems I have an obligation to care for my fellow citizens when in reality I do not
Bentley Cooper
> the military has a purpose I'm glad you can follow, so why not put more money in another method of preventing death? (i.e. affordable medical care)
> forgets to mention the enormous investment in military compared to other countries
Gabriel Walker
Socialism is by definition the common ownership and management of production. Guaranteed healthcare is present in both socialist and social democratic countries.
Sentimental trash is the domain of moralism and politics, basically didacticism. >visual candy Yeah, the popularization of derogatory terms against aesthetics and craftmansship (style over substance, visual candy) is the reason why most movies are bland, cliche ridden trash. Style is substance.
Jayden Martin
basically this. all the blue collar retards actually end up defending their rich overlords, drooling and spouting brainwashed memes about how health and education = socialism. if the right wing apes had any real patriotism and love for their country they would be able to see the long term benefits of taking care of and increasing education for everyone
>hurr mah taxes fucking mouthbreathers, stop breeding pls
Camden Martinez
Holy fucking based!
Noah Robinson
>that's how it is, so that's how we need to keep it Not sure I'll ever understand this kernel of Conservative logic. With that line of reasoning we would have never gained independence from the Brits. Perhaps medical help shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold, any more than police security, fire protection etc should be.
Christopher Garcia
They all think they're just temporarily disgraced rich people.
Bentley Miller
I dont owe someone shit just because we were born in the same nation. The best part of being an american is telling people to fuck off and get a job
Carter Anderson
I guess you think having police paid for by tax equates to socialism as well? We could abolish police and have rich people pay for private security while poor people die. In fact just abolish government altogether and let the market dictate everything.
Anthony Murphy
HOLY FUCK! This is the most savage review against Marvel I've read yet, fucking awesome!
Christopher Perry
Does Yea Forums hate capeshit more than it hates nonwhites?
>Infantilization is the MCU game plan. A serious publication is obligated to point out similarity to the free-college, no-student-loans, socialized-medicine political promises that stoke immaturity.
I agree, depriving citizens of life saving healthcare and education makes the U.S more mature and adult than the rest of the industrialized world
Do you also believe in giving bilions to a foreign (((state))) and fighting wars for the interests of the elite?
Jason Rodriguez
I can smell your nigger from here, Jamal. Get a job.
Oliver Anderson
I have a comfy one and can post proof. You live sexless in your mom’s basement
Ryan Cruz
If you have a good job why would you want to pay more in taxes to support lazy fucks?
Asher Turner
>I like my leash, and will provide proof of it stare in the eons of the past, and witness as your forefathers gaze in your soulless eyes with utter disgust and reproach
Jayden Robinson
>Infantilization is the MCU game plan. A serious publication is obligated to point out similarity to the free-college, no-student-loans, socialized-medicine political promises that stoke immaturity.
How can a person be so right about movies, yet so wrong about political issues?
Robert Scott
Lmao The US deserves to be erased from the face of the world.
Everyone dies, anons. You can't outspend your mortality, and there aren't enough resources on the planet to heal everyone of everything, even if our entire society was mobilized for nothing but a total war against the grave. So the question becomes, how do we decide when to stop treating people? Is it when they run out of resources, which, although sad, is nobody's fault? The market, for all its cold callousness, is at least invisible. Or do we hand an administrator, another person, the power to determine when it's time for us to die? Where in the world is there a man so great that he can hold those scales?
Hunter White
Then I guess grocery stores are evil too -- I mean, I'll die if I don't eat. How dare they demand money for bread!
Grayson Butler
>Going deeper with Man of Steel and Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Snyder’s art angered the kiddies. FUCKING DESTROYED
Jonathan Brooks
The existence of police, courts, roads, and firemen do not depend upon the enslavement of private citizens to the state. Further, rule of law and a monopoly on violence is a fundamental prerequisite for the existence of a state, while socialized medicine is not.
Jack Thomas
Ironic coming from a guy who collect benefits from disability.
Brayden Garcia
>that pic
Fuck me, not even a MGS fan but you can see that happen in EVERY fucking fan base
/m/ shit like Transformers, Pokémon, Blizzard games to name a few
>what are food banks / soup kitchens / whatever you wanna call it wow mutts really do have shit for brains
Lincoln Jenkins
Remember, nothing hurts more than a bleeding conscience :)
John Price
>socialized medicine is enslaving people for the state nigga where do you get that bullshit retardation? do they pay you to shill this kind of crap? with socialized healthcare either doctors get hired voluntarily by the state, or the state pays people's medical bills. jfc how are you people so goddamn retarded do you unironically think half the world has doctors enslaved or some shit?
Am I the only one who thinks this photo of him was taken in prison/jail from the thumbnail?
Logan Morgan
It's the power of ideology.
Alexander Davis
Look, I know it's easy to believe all your political opponents are just stupid and their leaders are evil -- since it stops you from ever having to examine your own arguments and presuppositions -- and I know that brainwashing does indeed go on in some cases... But here's a stunning though. Maybe try talking with your opponents like you think they might have a point. Like, just maybe, their perspective is just as valid as yours, and is merely different. Rather than go in assuming you are right and they are just dumb hicks tricked by evil Scrooges into disagreeing with you.
Jack Adams
Because he's White
Easton Bennett
more like the power of literal shit for brains...
Henry Brown
Why shouldn't the free market determine doctor pay instead of the repressive government?
Liam Moore
i like ben, but this is a pretty retarded comparison
Landon Perry
He really is right about that. Something about Snyder’s movies sends fanboys into an utter rage.
Nolan Cox
The overwhelming majority of food banks and soup kitchens are not run by the government, they live off private donations through churches and charities. Actually medicine wasn't that dissimilar at one point either. But charity is not the governments charter or responsibility. You want to live? Get a fucking job or find someone to leech off of. You're not the general populations responsibility.
Liam Baker
>If people don't like my gay commie shit they must support drumpf! Cringe and faggotpilled
Benjamin Sullivan
What is Chesterton's Fence. But in all seriousness, I think conservatives deep down believe in the organic state rather than the social contract as the best tool for explaining society. Civilizations emerged through a process of trial and error vastly larger and more complicated than a single person can understand. They are self-assembling machines, and so we shouldn't muck about with the engine of this fantastic spaceship taking us to the stars because if we break it we are screwed. If progressives are the monkeys that ate the mushroom because it could be an extra source of food, then conservatives are the monkeys that didn't because it could be poisonous.
Charles Long
>gay >Nigger >Doesnt have a degrees or any credentials like Kermode >Kicked out of top tier jobs for being absolutely trash >Just copy paste good reviews and turn them around just to be a contrarían >Loves the DCEU >Masturbated to Jason momoa
No wonder why the incels on Yea Forums love him so much.
How does the government determine doctor pay? >Govt: I'm hiring you for X money, take it or leave it >doctor: Sounds fair I'll do it /// Nah I make more in private practice. the end alternatively >Govt. healthcare: We'll pay you up to this much for this kind of procedure, if you want something better you have to pay for it yourself >citizen: Sounds fair I'll take that because I'm poor /// Nah I'll get myself a better private practice doctor. FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK
Julian Ward
In the civilized world poor people get a basic subsidy to not starve. That must be an alien concept to a third-worlder like you.
Sebastian Nelson
Yes it is government responsibility Government exists for the people Some of those people are poor Government is for them as well as the rich. If a government does not exist for the people then it is not a government, it is a racket in the same sense as a mafia racket. A protectionist mob for those with cash.
Austin Moore
I actually like the Americans over most nationalities but yes they can be retarded.
John Ortiz
Having police and courts doesn't require anyone seizing any means of production. Everyone can still practice self-defense, the justice system is a new thing built to help order society. Socialized medicine, by contrast, requires the government to seize control of a section of the economy, in this case the sale of medicine.
Andrew Rogers
Everyone talking about doctors meanwhile we're having a nationwide nursing assistant burnout ffs
Benjamin Gomez
this is the same guy who thinks man of steel is the godfather of superhero films, and also thinks highly of videogame movies. I wouldn't exactly take his opinion into consideration.
Levi Brown
>Socialized medicine, by contrast, requires the government to seize control of a section of the economy, in this case the sale of medicine. no it doesn't you fucktard, it only requires the government to pay for peoples medical bills where do yu people get this kind of bullshit? absolute ZOG brainwashing jfc
Luke Russell
They shouldn't. And they didn't in America originally, food stamps didn't always exist. Wanna eat? Go work or beg on the street. Your laziness doesn't mean you deserve anything
Tyler Murphy
Why is it that normies are so incredibly defensive over this movie? I've talked to some acquaintances about it and my general opinion is that the first 2 hours were boring as shit, the last hour was kinda fun, it didn't do anything new and it's a perfectly inoffensive 5/10 that neither fucked things up nor did anything amazing. Whenever I told them that however, they went on and on about how I shouldn't go watch it then if I wanted to hate it, how I just didn't WANT to be invested, etc. etc. Why is this so precious to people?
Lincoln Long
Yes if only we could be more like India user good argument
Parker Lee
It’s the basedboys who can’t handle the fact that they aren’t watching ‘their’ super heroes, who they grew attached to when THEY grew up aka a symbol of their carefree and better youth, but an re-imagination in Snyder’s image. Much like a What If? for Marvel or Elseworld for DC version of the character. My ideal Superman will always be the All Star version but I have no problem accepting a Superman or Batman who kill since they have done so in nearly every incarnation in every period of the character/s. People who think that the no killing rule for Batman and the goody two shoes everlasting positive Superman character traits are their defining traits know jack shit about comics.
Austin Mitchell
Fucking A+, I unironically love Armond White
Noah Lewis
t. Abdul al-Somali
Angel Hernandez
Why shouldn't free market determine police or fire service pay?
oh its this everyone's opinion is valid and every gets a trophy and is special snowflake that can never be wrong bullshit. haha, no, some people are actually just complete mouth breathing fucking idiots. they literally are just retard hicks who got tricked good and hard by Jews and other high status psychopaths. all the sinister elites dont even have to lift a finger defending themselves because all the fucktarded poor people will foam at the mouth and scream memes about SOCIALISM while they all fight and beg for their scraps at the bottom to please their corporate overlords. it's actually quite impressive what those in wealth and power have pulled off. loud-mouth bottom-feeding fools don't just get their points seen as valid just because they vomit them out
Sebastian Barnes
Literal definition of cherry picking
Luis Anderson
>e-celebs are bad unless they kiss my contrarian ass
>politics in movies are bad unless they’re used to shit on them
Why are you people such massive fucking hypocrites? You have NO right to shit on e-celebs or identity politics in movies if you’re gonna suck this guy’s cock.
You're acting like there are no people able and willing to work who can't afford basic commodities such as food, health care etc due to either low wage or inability to find work.
Luke Roberts
He has something of a point (though his ideas of Snyder's depth are ludicrous), but wedging his political views (whatever you think of them) just looks like pandering.
Luke Rodriguez
And here we have the average American, everybody. No morals, no empathy. To call him a human being would be a stretch.
Leo Perry
truth worst part is how they then pretend to be "good christians" fucking kek
Camden Murphy
Daily reminder that the loudest pro-universal health care proponents are bi-polar bugmen who need expensive pills to remain semi-stable, trannies who want free titty pills, and gigantic fatasses. Yes, it is fucking enslaving people to the state, since doctors will become massively overworked. A gigantic influx of patients alone would drown doctors in malpractice premiums.
And the pharmacies? Forget it, you'd be waiting hours for your meds. The waiting would be such that you'd have to call your pills in, have a full work day, come in and pick your shit up. And what about the nurses? Have you fucking not noticed that they're getting burned out? Or how massively overworked the vast majority of them are?
Your system is cute and all, until people start abusing it. This is why liberal plans fuck up all the time. Liberals believe that man is able to become perfect, and thus societies as well. They have no plans, no contingencies in place for when shitheads take advantage of it. And you goddamn better believe that everyone is going to abuse such as system. Free health care and dental? Well, time to get my wisdom teeth removed, teeth whitened, invisaligns taken care of, oh, better get those cavities checked too. Or fuck even taking care of my teeth, I'll get implants. Dentists and dental assistants? Fuck them, they're getting tons of money. Wait, what the fuck do you mean I have to wait months in advance? Dental surgeons aren't working 24/7?
Daily reminder that no, liberals do not understand the concept of constraints and bottlenecks. Liberals hate the word "logistics," they do not live in a world where such a concept exists.
Isaac Lewis
>almost nothing in the review talks about what actually happens in the movie >it’s about metaphors and themes and fanboy hype surrounding the movie This is my least favorite kind of review. It’s literally just saying “it’s bad because the canvases is bad” or “it’s bad because I interpreted it incorrectly”. Why can’t we get more objective reviewers who talk about the actual movie itself, like MauLer?
>half the world has socialized healthcare >works excellently in almost all of europe >REEEEEE IT'S ENSLAVING PEOPLE TO THE STATE IT DOESN'T WORK EVERYONE WHO THINKS IT WORKS IS LE BRAINWASHED BUGMAN BUT I'M NOT BRAINWASHED EVEN THOUGH I THINK SOMETHING THAT WORKS IN DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS OF COUNTRIES IS IMPOSSIBLE I'M SUPER SMART AND SUPERIOR TO ALL OF YOU yikes
have you ever heard of the hippocratic oath, the one that all doctors swear? fucking moron
Benjamin Ramirez
>Thinking things that work in civilized countries will work in burgerstan
Ayden Rogers
>like MauLer Please don't tell me you watch youtube """critics""" unironically.
David Murphy
Based. My fellow Eurotards will never get it because they love to suck the state's cock and the dumbfuck American students on this board are too far gone as well.
Robert Thompson
(You)
Oliver Walker
>all caps strawman >ad hominem You get (you)s when you can actually extrapolate your claims and beliefs beyond weakass trolling.
>113533365 Conspiracy theories and delusional garbage don't merit serious response.
Christian Hernandez
>If we take a system that works with 1/10th of the population, and apply it to a system with 1/3rd of a billion people, it will surely work ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED OR SOMETHING?
Robert Williams
>if we take a system that works with 1/10th of our GDP, it will surely work Yes, it most likely will, brainlet.
Chase Sanchez
>If I put a spoonfull of broth into a small pot of water it works, but surely it won't work if I try to put five spoonfuls into a big pot of water burger logic
Christian Perry
>talks about infantalisation and maturity like its the number one problem in the world >at the same time stoking fires of corporate fanboyism while also taking part in such a thing HUUR THESE COMIC BOOK MOVIES ARE TOO SUCCESFUL, WHAY AREN'T THESE OTHER COMIC BOOK MOVIES MORE SUCCESFUL HURR DURR
The difference is that the government does not have a mechanism to determine prices. Prices are determined by factors of production, eg the farmer sells beef to the grocery store for $3 a pound because at that price he can feed his cows, upkeep his farm, make a profit, etc, AND other farmers can't undercut him by doing the same thing and selling for less. So the government employee might offer a salary of $100,000 to the doctor and the doctor might take the job, but if doctors are really worth $80,000 a private company will always form and pay a doctor that much because there is a profit to be made (taking customers from the government hospitals). But in a socialist economy the private hospital would be banned/controlled because the government hospital can't compete.
In the US today prices for medical services are skewed because of a lot of factors like insurance regulations, insurance mandates, medical practice requirements, etc
Evan Moore
How's he so based lads?
Matthew Hill
Reminder that people who can't afford to keep themselves alive should unironically just die.
I thought Infinity War was pretty good, especially the scenes involving the Soul stone and the unconscious Thanos goes to.
Jaxon Phillips
>Why is it that normies are so incredibly defensive over this movie? >Why is this so precious to people?
With 2500+ yrs of culture being purged and erased from the collective memory as we speak, the "Capeshit" genre replaces the historical legends and cultural myths and feeds people's inborn desire for heroism. People (like Armond White) who criticise Marvel for how artistically trite or cynically politicised it is I think are missing out on the wider picture which is that this generation's attachment to heroic figures (however infantalized and bastardized) is actually a sign of cultural HEALTH and SURVIVAL because it shows that people haven't become COMPLETELY JADED and still have some sort of longing for heroism, morality, the triumph of good over evil, etc. Compare this to artistically superior art films which are morally nihilistic and just depict bored immoral people doing bored immoral things - the fact that people favour "childish" superhero films over this nihilistic trash is if anything a positive sign. In other words, no matter how corrupt Marvel's version of heroism is, it is still some kind of heroism and it's encouraging that people still want that kind of thing.
Leo Thomas
So you're saying banning insurance would improve things. Great get the greedy (((insurance companies))) who offer nothing to health care out of the equation.
Luke Edwards
>Yea Forums appreciates critic who insults identity politics in film >Yea Forums insults identity politics in film.
>jfc you're all such hypocrites >jfc
You have to go back
Christopher Lewis
>The difference is that the government does not have a mechanism to determine prices >prices for medical services are skewed because of a lot of factors like insurance regulations, insurance mandates, medical practice requirements
>still have some sort of longing for heroism, morality, the triumph of good over evil, Nigga, you're literally talking to someone that unironicall watches tokusatsu and I still thought it was pretty boring lmao
Kevin James
Just wait until you get a debilitating illness and bitch and moan that you can't work for the $$ to pay doctors to fix you up.
Henry Roberts
Fucking based.
Brayden Ward
well I can't vouch for how entertaining it is because I haven't seen it
It's boring, 6.5/10 at best. I regret watching it, and I watched a Cam version without spending money, if I actually went to the cinema I would be pissed.
Do you know why I didn't go to the cinema? I knew it would just be propaganda at the worst or a shit movie at best.
No I'm saying that government needs to step out of the way so that insurance companies can work properly. With less government there would actually be more insurance, but that isn't a bad thing because there would be reasonable options for poor people. It's scary though for people with preexisting conditions because logically obviously they should be charged more, but morally it's shitty to charge someone a lot of money or leave them to die. But things like insurance for the possibility of having a child with preexisting conditions or charity/community would solve that issue without government
Jaxon Bailey
>implying anyone cares about what this old fart has to say
also, what a try-hard
Logan Williams
Based & Redpilled
Someone post that video of the woman using goverment gibs to feed her dog lobster.
Charles Jones
Thats exactly what paying taxes is asshole. If that's how you really feel stop paying for them and see what happens bitch
Liam Reyes
I guess I should have said very skewed? Obviously all prices are skewed because there is government involvement in every industry at some level. In the medical industry there is just a lot more involvement
Nathan Wilson
>Thinking european socialiazed systems are going to hold the de-population and social mistrust of importing immigrants
Carson Sanchez
NEETS absolutely SEETHING ITT get a job loser And have sex
Austin Thomas
Are you advocating the US become a closed off white ethnostate? Fucking based.
Benjamin Morales
>Infantilization is the MCU game plan. A serious publication is obligated to point out similarity to the free-college, no-student-loans, socialized-medicine political promises that stoke immaturity. This man completely BTFO my life and he is 100% right. I come from a European socialist cuckhole and he is 100% correct. I don't watch capeshit but I'm a loser with a CS degree.
Levi Rodriguez
No. The problem is the Goverent becomes the fixer of both price and profits, so the business of healthcare is not about offering the market the best deals, but to get the best deal from the goverment to subsidize production costs, tariffs, etc.
Austin Wood
>free-college
Students do not work as hard nor does it mean resources can be focused on the best and brightest who aim for university/college to go on to do better things in their career or for whatever discipline it is they study. All these free collegetards want is as already mentioned in the article - an experience.
>no-student-loans
Again with no financial responsibility to their education how serious will they take it - oh failed again - no worry! Just keep taking my free courses indefinitely staying in a bubble of arrested academic development.
>socialized-medicine political promises
The key word here is 'promises'. Delusions cannot take the place of reality and likewise pragmatism takes precedence of idealistic sentiments. We can already see crumbling healthcare infrastructures in places NOT America yet all you dumb ameritard liberals thinking it would be ever so easy to replicate a European countries system are deluded.
Noah Evans
how can one man be so based?
Eli Bennett
You have no problem with your tax money going to Israel or blowing up some goat farmer in the middle east who can't read but, someone like yourself might see the benefit of those tax dollars and it's bad?
Blake Fisher
>THAT WORKS IN DOZENS IF NOT HUNDREDS If it works, it's in those scandinavian paradises, it does not work in the third world country where I live.
John Hill
does he actually exist? Is there video evidence of this guy? I believe he is just an elaborate ruse.
Blake Myers
Outside of europe, most countries that have socialized healthcare only have it according to their constitution, but in practice, they don't have anything resembling it. Not defending america's system
John Mitchell
>I have no sense of scale UK, for example, has an overworked care system, with burned out nurses and waiting lists on waiting lists. It's sitting pretty at 66 million, roughly 1/5th of the US population. If you're actually smart, you'd look into population to doctor scaling. How many doctors are there in the US? 1.1 million, around 1 for every 300 people. UK? 2.8 for every 1000. Numbers are pretty much the same, which is staggeringly low. So we're looking at 2.8-3 doctors for every 1000 people either way.
Moreover, the application would not be linear, because we would have to disregard certain things (gun violence, higher rates of obesity, higher rates of overprescription, generally lower education level) that the US has over the UK. It's completely foolish to assume that we can simply just scale up the work and have it just magically cure things. The overall health care quality would decline massively, and you'd have waiting lists on waiting lists.
That 1.1 million figure I cited was ALL doctors, and not specific niche ones that would get overworked. Niche fields like dermatology, endocrinology, heart specialists, OBGYNs, so on so forth, do not have 1.1 mill each in them. But the 300,000,000 suddenly DO care about their skin health? No system can handle that.
Our blood testing systems as well, those would get exceedingly overworked. In the US, we have two big ones, and they're already slow and expensive enough as is. Christ, can you imagine if the entire population wanted to get blood work? Fuck, it would be a nightmare.
Angel Morales
No wonder they call you subhuman
Michael Howard
>I'm entitled to someone else got through an entire medical school >I'm entitled for people to build up companies that research and produce medication >I'm entitled that others pay for those services and products for me Kiddie mentality. >B-b-ut what if I'm so sick I can't work, so I can't pay for anything and I'll just die. Why don't you have health insurance and life insurance so if you are so sick you can't work you won't die out? >B-b-b-b-b-b-but I was always poor, can't afford those, are you gonna l-l-l-let me die. We already have Medicaid. I don't mind paying taxes so people that are too unfortunate can receive proper medical care. That's fine. Eventually they will be able to walk with their own legs and take care of their own lives. But one thing is a social safety net, which is meant to deal with extraordinary situations and emergencies. Another thing is a system that is based on the idea that you are entitled something from other people, and that you don't need personal responsibility because the government (politicians) will take care of everyone. I don't want to get my health care from politicians, so don't force that upon me.
Ryan Myers
>basically saying a doctor has an obligation to heal your disease and give you their labor
literally the hippocratic oath you mouthbreather
Cameron Bell
>socialization of medicine is not socialism
Gavin Jones
having your culture replaced by consumerism and infantile pop culture worship isn't a good thing kill yourself fucking dipshit retard.
Christian Phillips
I had no idea the Hippocratic oath was legally binding,mainly because the US court system ruled it is just a tradition and in no way legally bindingm
Hunter Campbell
>free-college, no-student-loans, socialized-medicine political promises that stoke immaturity
Stupid burger.
Levi White
Why are you lying through your teeth when the rest of the world proved you wrong, stop worshiping your government's cock when they tell you anything good for the people and bad for their pockets is communism and to be guarded against like the devil
Brandon Ortiz
You have no right to an education. You can read internet articles for.free and learn on your own if you cant afford tuition. It isnt the governments job to educate people. That should be entirely up to the free market
Jackson Kelly
Prolly Tylo be chillin
Noah Young
Don't shift the blame on Americans. I'm living in a European country with highly sophisticated and developed social care and shit here basically starts falling apart to post-Soviet tier of fucked up bureaucracy where people have to wait months or sometimes years for any serious treatment. Massive influx of immigrants and other social leeches makes the social care inefficient while middle class disappears being the sole pillar supporting this shit with increasing taxes.
Ethan Parker
He is right, all these things are bad and I as a European I am in a position to know why they are bad. Never trust socialism and communism Americans.
Owen Gutierrez
>Where are they taking us? to NPC' heaven, where you turn into a teletubbie living in perpetual childhood alienated from everyone but the marketplace of identity and sexual genderless expression.
I was gonna agree with him until he said Snyder and Watchmen are mature
Lincoln Campbell
Why is it this nigger is so smart but most niggers are too stupid to even breathe? I worked in a law office. Niggers come in and they can't read, they can't spell their own names or their kids names, they don't know their own SSN, they can't remember when their kids were born, and entire family of them will have less than $300 to their name...but then you get this guy and he is some sort of giga genius nigger and it just makes no sense to me.
Easton Reed
>I had no idea the Hippocratic oath was legally binding,mainly because the US court system ruled it is just a tradition and in no way legally bindingm
>morality isn't legally binding so fuck it
amazing 10/10 post
the point is they follow it because they believe in it not because it is legally binding
Evan King
Britfag here, just want to blow your assumptions out of the water. I haven't used the healthcare system for years and I'm still more than happy to contribute towards it by way of tax. I never know when I'm going to be hit by a speeding car or develop cancer and need expensive treatment. There are people living literally on the streets who need that treatment too. Even if I paid for private health care, what happens if a close friend or relative without health care falls seriously ill? Either I watch them die or I bankrupt myself to help them.
As shitty as this country is, that's the one thing that makes me glad to live here. Yes the service is stretched and lacking in places and our taxes are higher to compensate, but it's a fair price to pay to not have to watch somebody close to me die.
Jaxon Hall
Read this you lazy fucks. Your boss does you a favor by giving you a job
If you don't feel an intrinsic moral obligation toward the well being of your fellow humans and the only thing keeping you from neglecting anyone around is money then you have no business on the healthcare sector
Nathan Bailey
also the person who gets their moral guidance from the legal system is a bigger statist cuck than any bernie bro
Josiah Sullivan
Aren't you euros throwing fathers into jail for looking into the whereabouts of their daughters when they get kidnapped by your new neighbors from Syria?
You can keep your 'morals' over there, bootlicker.
Zachary Richardson
>And the pharmacies? Forget it, you'd be waiting hours for your meds. The waiting would be such that you'd have to call your pills in, have a full work day, come in and pick your shit up. And what about the nurses? Have you fucking not noticed that they're getting burned out? Or how massively overworked the vast majority of them are? This just doesn't happen and has literally never happened in my experience.
Luke Rivera
It is in the benefit of a (responsable) government to have educated population, that's literally how a country develops dumbass
Luke Lee
>my inability to pay for insulin is like me buying a fancy couch
I understand antisemitism now.
Charles Gutierrez
>Socialized medicine is basically saying a doctor has an obligation to heal your disease and give you their labor. Inn Amwrica we believe if you work hard enough then you will deserve medical care
Except we subsidize healthcare for the rest of the world. Doctors come from all over the world for access to our markets and research/development. Americans spend 800 million to develop a new treatment or a drug and then that IP is just given away for free to third world mongrels.
Healthcare should be free. End of discussion. There is zero argument for why we can't do this.
No one is saying doctors should work for free. They're saying doctors shouldn't get to decide who lives and dies based on price point. What kind of fucking kikes are you?
Jaxon Smith
>bootlicker
rich elite are laughing at you while the middle class disappears. enjoy your inevitable wageslave class
Thomas Cooper
none of that happens in the US either people just go to the ER and never pay the bills and then medical debts are washed after 7 years
the US already has "free" healthcare funded by the taxpayers it's just only available to poor people and illegals who go to the ER with a fake name
Jaxon Rodriguez
Has Ben Shapiro ever taken an intro economics course? Healthcare has inelastic demand its not the same as furniture.
Zachary Reed
Imagine having your history rewritten, your ancestors slandered, your heritage maligned and your traditions desecrated, only to respond by actually celebrating the fact that your deracinated, atomized, demoralized people eagerly embrace a degenerate, infantile replacement myth provided to them by the very Jewish victimizers responsible for their decline.
America's system costs more to treat less. Preventable illness is diagnosed too late, what should be cheap drugs and aids costs thousands due to inflated insurance costs. Socialised medicine allows every one to work hard.
Jackson Scott
> every black person I meet having on law office uneducated and dangerous No shit
Landon Diaz
If it has the level of impact it does, then it’s a cultural phenomenon. Same as Star Wars or Back to the Future. It’s ingrained itself into western culture.
Jason Richardson
>your boss does you a favor giving you a job.
>That's right goy work harder! You'll work whatever hours I tell you. I'm doing you a favor you know! So throw away that dignity and WORK
You didn't answer the question. How's the waiting list?
Julian Taylor
Unfortunately a whole lot of people end up not voting, conveniently enough for the far right.
Joseph Cook
Thats called being an adult and accepting some people are above you because they have the money. Grow the fuck up and accept reality. I have worked the same job for 6 years and call my boss Sir and his wife Maam every time they speak to me because they allow me to work a job and I owe them my respect. I am only 1 year away from an actual PAID vacation ( meaning I will get a pay check and not even have to work) so I pwe them a lot
Joshua Gray
>Morality, having inspired countless people and works of fictions over centuries of human cvilization and culture, is made up
user, go outside, talk to people.
Parker Perry
medical debt isn't like other debt, it practically doesn't count you can just ignore it and there are almost no penalties
Ethan Morgan
It's not that they should die, but no one has the obligation to keep them alive.
Jayden Harris
If you factor out minorities we are slightly above average in most healthcare categories.
Carter Myers
>linking /pol/ propaganda
Owen Cox
I want to die.
Levi Diaz
If you don't have principles or morals of your own and the only thing that prevents you from doing bad or harming others is the force of law then you might be a sociopath. Seek help.
>Educating people is not my responsibility Thanks good there are teachers for that and you are not the government.
How much of a cuck can you be? I fell sorry for you user. did you grow up eating literal shit? What you described is the standard for most of the cvilized world at the minimum. I haven't even worked my job for a full year and I almost have my vacation days as well as paid days off and paid personal days.
Asher Mitchell
>You don't get to remove inconvenient statistics to make yourself look better.
Nolan Wright
I was against socialized healthcare until I learned I have a stupidly high risk for diabetes (and I'm still a skelly).
Cooper Diaz
Yea man,if I could get away with it I would kill everyone who looked at me cock eyed. I actually try to blackmail people into doing what I want but I dont take it too far because I dont want to go to jail. I assume most people are the same way
Andrew Gomez
Why should you get paid for not working? Thats crazy to me. I havent had a vacation in 15 years
Austin Garcia
Wow, I can't imagine why people would dislike Jews
Luis Howard
The job of the government is maintaining the justice system and national defense, not maintaining indoctrination centers.
I practically review credit and income for a living even if you straight declare bankruptcy your credit is fine again in 2 years and completely fixed in 7, fucktons of people do it and nobody cares
Liam Gomez
>Talking about current state of society and culture is porpaganda
Logan Robinson
>I havent had a vacation in 15 years based good goy
Ryder Gomez
Are you living in literal north Korea?
Jaxson Williams
Me don't like + gratuitously name dropping politics
Classic Armond.
Asher Collins
You sound naive. I have violent fantasies that constantly run through my head and I read a study that its actually common. Besides as long as you pretend to have morals you can con people into believeing anything. I just assume they are also running a con as well. I h o nestly dont perceive others as being real
Julian Roberts
but that is to be seen, you can't just claim a movie is a cultural phenomenon the year or even the decade it's released
Alexander Butler
Vacations are a waste of money. Im just going to go somewhere alone and give them money? If I did get a vacation I would probably just sit at home and watch tv for a week. Why even bkther? Working keeps me from thinking about killing myself
Angel Davis
They aren't. The vast majority of people feel some sense of comraderie and shared destiny with the rest of humanity, or at least with their local community, city, country, race or whatever. I hope you're very, very successful; if not, take a minute to reflect on your immense inferiority to all the moral people who sacrifice some measure of personal success for the benefit of others and still outcompete you.
Levi Moore
We are in a desert with 1000 people and 10,000 bottles of water. How do you allocate that water so no one dies of dehydration? Bernie wants himself to do that. He believes centralized planning will do it better than each person making decision for themselves. So he gives 10 bottles to each person, social justice! But some people only needed 5, and others needed 15 and are now going to die. Some will try to buy from those who got more than they needed in the black market, or from Bernie himself with corruption. That's what happens in socialized healthcare countries. Bernie likes to point out Scandinavian countries. But he ignores the scarcity of the resources. If now we have instead 10 million bottles of water, anyone can distribute those waters to 1,000 people without anyone going thirsty. It doesn't prove central planning works, it means it's easy to allocate plenty of resources without. The most efficient way to allocate scarce resources is by everyone making individual choices, because each one knows how much they need anything, and how much they are willing to pay for that resource. It's called the free market. Of course, if you can only buy healthcare from one company because the swamp protects that monopoly, that's no different than having Bernie Sanders "selling" you healthcare. Private or public, what matters having options. We don't have that in the US by definition so the system fails and progressives can justify singlepayer. Parasite politicians from both sides protected health insurance fiefdoms. Obamacare was designed to fail, and so it did. And now the takeover begins.
>manufactured cultural relevance >shallow as fuck but makes retards think it's super DEEP >feeds into the hype culture It's just like american football
Jose Cook
tldr
Julian Long
I just got some reconstruction done on my eyebrow following an accident. They did it only 2 days after I was treated in A&E. We get free dentistry too, I called up with toothache due to a large cavity and abscess, they were gonna pull it that day for me until they realised it was a specialist job and would require a senior dentist. They gave me free antibiotics and pain killers and I received my appointment in the post 2 weeks later.
Why? What would I do on a vacation? Serious question. I drank too much and ran away the woman I loved and now I just work, come home lay in bed then go back to work. Im serious, what would do on a vacation? Pay to be alone somewhere else? Why? It would just come to an end and I would be out money that my daughter could use.
Tyler Watson
You know very little about black people and it shows, user.
Carter Ross
HEY HOTHEAD I'M IN CHARGE HERE.
Ryder Reed
how about spending some time with your daughter you selfish fuck.
Jackson Ramirez
If by 'something about Snyder' you mean visual iliteracy and bad scripts, then yeah.
Sebastian Nguyen
He writes for a politics magazine.
Nathan Robinson
Soon man, I have a daughter so I owe it to her to stay alive long enough to have a college fund. I break down in tears multiple times a day and I plan on leaving instructions for no one to claim my body so money isnt wasted on a funeral. I am going to drive a few states over and do it so hopefully I will just be reported as missing. I have a pretty concrete plan that should incinerate me or at least leave my body unidentifiable.
Austin Thomas
I see her every time I can. She lives hours away but I do my best and she gets virtually everything I make. I work for her. After I can provide for her college I figure she wont need me anymore and I hate being alive and alone so much im in physical pain. I just want to be gone
Brandon Ward
Only Armond could take a Marvel movie and get a healthcare discussion out of it. Thank's based White.
You're your worst enemy right now. You're running away from your problems, it doesn't matter where you go right now cause they will follow you as long as you avoid them, that's why you are trying to drown the noise, stop, confront your demons, solve your inner problems one at a time, seek therapy if necessary, join support groups, do what is necessary to fix your mind, soul and body, then you will start to actually enjoy existence for a change.
William Diaz
;_;
Charles Scott
Fuck faggots. They dont deserve medicine for their aids, they deserve to die.
Jace Walker
Most people are low iq and low willpower NPCs, socialism does not change that, it just forces those who aren't to provide for them.
Gavin Anderson
This is a rich white kid comeback/worldview
Austin Cooper
>DCshit >depth Ahahahahahah delusional dcfag I love Watchmen (both the comic book and the movie) but it was a fluke, everything else Snyder did is pure shit.
This is meant for I'm telling you, you're in an spiral of self destruccion, blinded by pain, for your sake, and for the sake of your daughter happiness seek help.
>actually thinking that having government in charge of healthcare of education makes it easier for the poor to get some
The issue is that free market is better at giving poor people more and better services than any government agency.
Asher Robinson
>American free market is better for poors Is that why America is drowning in hobos and trashy lower class people? I couldn't believe my eyes when I went to vacation there it was like Hobo Capital
Jacob Lopez
No it isn't, it is in the best interest of the free market to make profits because that's what capitalism is all about, not to help people, that's why some services need to be socialized like the rest of the world already understands.
Henry King
Grow up. Yes, some people deserve to die because they didn't work hard enough. If you get sick and can't work and die because you can't pay to cure your sickness have you ever considered that's maybe God's plan for you?
Cameron Myers
It's interesting to notice that. I'm from a fairly wealthy area of the US and there are still some homeless and hungry people begging on street corners. When I was in Italy I didn't see any homeless people or beggars.
Liam Foster
The social media generation is incapable of grasping the concept of 'boards' and 'off-topic'.
I think it's because they've grown up in an Internet where forums were a dying breed... so the concept of forum rules seems strange to them.
Nathaniel Scott
You're mental
Ayden Ross
Good goy
Jose Lopez
it has far more with mods not doing their job
Chase Miller
based and red pilled
modern "liberalism" is rooted in white naivety that man is inherently "good"
see the fact that the people proposing free healthcare also support open borders and amnesty for the 25 million illegals living in america
Jack Nguyen
I go to AA. It feels.like a cult and I dont believe in spirituality but I feel good just having people say hello to me and holding hands at the end means I can touch others
Julian Carter
>25 million illegals Most estimates are a bit over half that
Aaron Evans
Yeah dumb libs aren't wicked nihilistic like you
Kayden Harris
Kermode is a total bitch. He'll drone on about a film he likes during a review for a movie he didn't and it feels like gramps thinking of the good times.
How is that mental? Okay, so even if you can't afford the healthcare, your pastor can get the church and local charities to potentially donate the money for you to afford it. And the best part? You don't have to wait for a year to get some antibiotics like you do in the socialist countries! There's no reason anyone should be entitled to living past where God (or if you prefer "the universe", "nature", whatever) has designated them to live to. Christ said "Render unto Caesar" which means work and pay your bills. It's a direct order from the Son of God. This whole medicare for all nonsense is spiritually immature people wanting the state to fight against God by preventing people from dying naturally. It's putting more faith on science than in religion. It's trying to create Heaven on Earth rather than having faith that Heaven awaits you in the afterlife. There's nothing "mental" about Christianity.
Aiden Sullivan
idk about the rest of the country, but in california our problems are entirely caused by endless illegal immigration because we're controlled by the agriculture industry who needs infinite numbers of slave labor
millions of unskilled people who need everything from the state means we can never catch up on housing or any other social programs like rehab or job training for the current homeless
not to mention liberal retards passed tons of environmental regulations and fees on building houses, meaning not only do we have more people than we can put in housing, its impossible to pay for it
Kek. Armond is Yea Forums if the retards on this board were actually literate.
Easton Howard
>assblasted marcels derail a thread that exposes them as mindless consumers
Camden Anderson
>A serious publication is obligated to point out similarity to the free-college, no-student-loans, socialized-medicine political promises that stoke immaturity Oh look another neocon shill on Yea Forums, get a real job asshole.
Conservatives have jobs and health insurance. Stay mad.
Benjamin Ross
Fwiw you anons have been the best friends I have ever had. The only friends. Maybe if I get into heaven I can still post. I hope.I deserve it
Chase Miller
Big emphasis on "trashy lower class people." They're completely subhuman. Physically repulsive, genetically malformed with every kind of illness you can imagine running in their families, vitriolic and aggressive, ignorant and proud of it, just utterly grotesque creatures. They're good for exactly one thing above all others and that's following orders and in most cases that means dying to make the nobility richer. The orcs from Lord of the Rings would be an improvement at best or a lateral move at worst compared to what the lower class U.S. is like.
Don't forget that he's also gay. He transcended both to become our lord & saviour.
Daniel Jones
Thank god this post wasn't wasted on those trips, close call
Eli Bailey
You don't need to be part of any religion to be spiritual user, it might not be necessary in mundane levels but it would make you good to believe in something greater than you and the earthly world that surrounds you, something to help you redirect your life for the better, maybe studying philosophy, maybe buddhism, maybe just meditation and yoga during the weekends, something that makes you see not only what is but what could be.
That you like the company of others is good, have you tried to volunteer for something before? Nothing that demands money from you, just a day or two from your week that might get you outside doing something surrounded by other fellow strangers just getting together to help a common cause, unironically sometimes helping others, is how we can help ourselves.
Things can change for the better user. Don't lose hope.
Wyatt Bennett
japanese has the longest lifespan they have private employer and also government universal healthcare insurance unlike the usa they regulate medical prices usa is fucked up because of corruption nothing else
Bentley Martinez
Everyone knows that Shapiro glows in the dark. False flag controlled opposition.
Nathaniel Howard
>exposing "false dichotomy" >post videos with his own ideological false dichotomies At least don't be hypocritical
Charles Kelly
Thanks man,I have never felt spirituality in any form but I am gonna take your advice.
Aiden Foster
free market destroyed the middle class and moved trillions of dollars into the middle east and asia, hasnt lowered the poverty rate in the last 60 years
Isaac Turner
>why do Yea Forums users hold the political views reflected in the dedicated Yea Forums politics board Gee, I wonder. Here's a thought: if you want to talk about stuff with the reddit crowd, go to reddit.
Adam Bell
Whats wrong with the LOTR battles. They were in the books and by modern standards no where jear as cgi reliant as capeshit
