Why the fuck did this movie bomb again? It's so fucking good. All the actors nail their roles, and Eric Bana is amazing. Seriously the best Bruce Banner and Hulk ever. It pulls so much from the comics and the old TV show together and the cinematography is iconic. There's just so much good here I can't believe people hated it.
Browsing the RT reviews is just crazy. It's like no one who saw this movie ever read a Hulk comic or had any knowledge of the character.
>The Hulk is too big and too green >There's too much talking and not enough smashing >CGI shouldn't be used for the Hulk
What the hell kind of movie did these people want?
just take away the comic book panels and this would be a much better movie
Brayden Diaz
Also it was 3 hrs long.
Jordan Morgan
Because it was boring and dreary. There was barely enough Hulk and lots of Melodramas. Ang Lee is good at that stuff which is why he's so good with gay people angsting. He's not for Superheroes.
Connor Fisher
>muh nature shots >muh movie has to look like a comic book
Hudson Lee
I liked the low-key racism by letting ang Lee direct it
Jonathan Gonzalez
This i couldn't stand the panels
Zachary Wood
>TAKE IT ALL It's pretty good. the only people i've seen hate it are fags that are into the current marvelshit.
Ryan Evans
It's the best Hulk movie made so far
Adrian James
>It's a movie about The Hulk >It's 3 hours long >Banner becomes Hulk 2+ hours in the movie
It's kinda complicated. The movie has some really good aspects that are above the average capeshit. But then there's other details so bad that are hard to ignore.
Bana did a good job. Nolte was by far the best. Josh Lucas performance was awful. The plot and dramatic tone is really nice. Though it feels too slow at times. For the cgi part there's some really well made sequences for it time but also others that didn't aged well. It's not consistent. The thing I hated the most was the editing. They should've tone it down with the transitions
Jaxon Watson
hulk is a boring superhero
Jack Ross
>this pile of shit is KINO because it was succeeded by an even bigger pile of shit! First the SW prequels and now this, stop being contrarian for the sake of it
Jacob Fisher
>>The Hulk is too big and too green LMAO WHAT THE FUCK
David Turner
I think it's amazing. Saw it in theaters as a kid and didn't like it as much but over the years after seeing the shit they put out it really makes me appreciate it. Like the fact tht they do some shooting in San Francisco and it's not a completely CGI'd city and that they have real scenes and cars etc. it was like a perfect combination of cgi and special effects. Also it's the best the hulk has looked in my opinion.
Hated those hulk movies with Ned Oswald or whatever his name is, that dudes a cuck
William Thompson
Best Hulkino ever.
A Hulk that its a monster. A damaged Banner that feels like he is actually hidding a monster inside of him.
Top casting. Great edit. Great acting. Distinctive style. The movie is not a 2 hours cgi fight scene like the sequel. Great villains. Great soundtrack. Dramatic and operatic.
Its an actual film, not capeshit. Released too early maybe
Blake Sanders
>it's the best the hulk has looked in my opinion. Same here. He was actually impressive, as he should be.
Gavin Cox
Too good for the plebs. Ang Lee took the melodrama and pulp trashiness of comics, and elevated it to Shakespearean proportions.
Grayson Barnes
Really surprised everyone here is in support of it. Most people I tell this too immediately disagree and think of it as the bad hulk movie
Christopher Collins
>Hated those hulk movies with Ned Oswald or whatever his name is, that dudes a cuck You mean Mark Ruffalo?
Jacob Hill
i was obsessed with this movie when i was young, i had it on VHS i must have watched it like 20+ times
Joseph Moore
Literal boomers who watched the movie from the 70s
Colton Anderson
I rewatched it like two weeks ago, and damn it was good. And forget about the "hulk" fighting scenes. The whole story is amazing, the character developement is great. Both dads were very interesting.
There was a very slight Akira angle
William Myers
Ang Lee's Hulk gets bigger and bigger the madder he gets.
Levi Hall
I remember my 12-year-old self loved the movie. A lot of retarded Boomers hated it because of "muh cgi" meme back then. Everyone was new to the CGI thing back then but I think it was required. I remember people comparing him to Shrek.
The only faults I've had with it it was too deep for a Hulk movie. Even though there were very little action scenes I really loved every single fight scene. That's it honestly.
Cameron Lewis
>Best Hulkino ever. The theme gives me chills. The way it builds up just captures the Hulk so well.
>This movie is good because of my nostalgia for it It doesn't work that way pal
Tyler Lewis
What? I watched it again not long ago and it's still good.
Austin Long
Your vision is clouded by nostalgia, it's objectively a terrble movie
William Bailey
The slow pace and the comic book panels killed it.
Josiah Hernandez
I'm fully aware of what I'm feeling when I say I don't have nostalgic feelings or influence over this movie. I think the problem back then is people wanted the Hulk to break and smash things. It was too deep and scientific in its own right. There's definitely some faults but the overall story was too much for some people.
Also throwing the word around "objectively" doesn't make you fucking right you seething dummy.
Asher Garcia
the final big fight is him yelling at a cloud. also it was like 4 hours long of nothing but him jumping around then punching a poodle
Julian Reed
>opinion on movie can be objective What are you, retarded?
Post time when hulk appears on the screen for the first time, if I remember correctly it is past 1 hour mark.
Henry Williams
I like the part where the screen gets broken up into literal comic panels of some helicopter flying over a canyon.
Evan Gutierrez
Eric Bana is fucking garbage and just as much of a failure as his favourite footy team.
On a side note PLEASE WATCH OUR SPORT BIG STRONG AMERICANS
Henry Peterson
That's literally how every Hulk solo comic goes. The entire point of most stories is the tension before the monsters comes out because once that happens its game over.
Yeah but you don't have the luxury like comic books where you can stretch it out and actually write him properly. With a movie you only have so much time until the sequel is done which usually takes 3 to 5 years
Nolan Perry
>Most people I tell this too immediately disagree and think of it as the bad hulk movie Most likely the people you tell that to have never actually watched it. Most people who parrot that idea only know about the movie from le epic nerds on youtube and in popculture shitting on it.
Joshua Rodriguez
>Ang Lee's Hulk gets bigger and bigger the madder he gets. So literally the only person to get it right? Fuck those boomer cunts who ruined any chance for proper Hulk movies.
The movie is kind of awful, but I always thought the dad was a fascinating villain
Levi Morris
>Three hours long without three hours worth of story being told >Overly convoluted origin >Nonsensical 'psychological' plot points >retarded hulk dogs >lame final battle
Which is a shame because it still had the best cast and the best Hulk out moment ever when he breaks out of the facility and fights the Army in the desert.
You all have reverse nostalgia. You are blinded by how it was received at that time. Watch it again with an open mind, its a top 5 capekino.
Easton Thomas
That scene is so good. I love how brutal the entire fight is. I can't believe people thought that was stupid, and here we are 20 years later and those same people are praising the empty cgi fights in Civil War. Fucking crazy.
Jaxson Murphy
This movie made me pretty Ang Lee ehehehehe
Caleb Johnson
Literally all the fucking boomers who grew up with the 70's Hulk shat all over this movie because of the CGI.
Andrew Howard
>You all have reverse nostalgia. You are blinded by how it was received at that time. I am 100% convinced that if it had come out after The Dark Knight it would have been received much more positively. The problem is that it's an actual movie, not a "comic book movie" so people went in expecting a big noisy Michael Bay movie and were given a character drama.
Juan Lopez
This. This is why it unfortunately failed.
James Baker
hulk can't be non-CGI anymore but it's a fact that the CGI fights in the movie are fucking crap and they were horrible even then
Jason Wilson
It was ahead of its time.
Huh?
Henry Rodriguez
>angry >angly >anglee
Kevin Barnes
yeah it's pretty good both Norton and Bana hulks are 10 times better than that unfunny spic Ruffalo
But what made people dislike the Hulk for the somewhat same aspects that made The Dark Knight a huge success? You don't expect 5 years to change people too much. Is Batman just better suited for grittyness?
Tyler Price
Haha, I love it
David Powell
das racis'
Robert Brown
Was it the underground elevator? Or Bruce’s dad turning into an abomination?
Mason Turner
Avengers 1 Hulk was almost perfect, all they had to do was make him grow bigger when he got angrier and he would've been perfect
Noah Moore
>Hulk sequel >Bring Maestro back >But it's Ang Lee's Hulk that's the Maestro
CGI wasn’t the problem. But they did make him too fucking big. The Hulk isn’t King Kong size.
The pacing sucked. Spent too much time trying to make Banner’s transformation “realistic” with nanobots and shit.
Brayden Kelly
It's weird, but The Dark Knight trilogy was what made the mainstream audience willing to accept comic book movies as real movies. If Hulk had released afterward they wouldn't have just been expecting a noisy spectacle. They may have been more willing to watch a deep character piece about a fucked up dude and his inner monster.
Jace Ramirez
i remember liking this scene because i fucking hated dogs as a kid
Henry Adams
Hulk 2003 is better than Hulk 2008 and most of the MCU garbage. It's in my top 5 capeshit.
Christopher Long
Had to look it up. Edward norton Probably and they'll always reference the Edward norton one as being better.
Cameron Ross
>Probably and they'll always reference the Edward norton one as being better. Just crazy. HULK is just such a well made movie. I'll always think it's fucking dumb when people say that Ang Lee somehow forgot how to make a good movie just for this one specific film, even though the film he made before was an Oscar winning genre defying character drama, and the movie he made afterward was an Oscar winning genre defying character drama. But some fucking how, HULK, a genre defying character drama, is inexplicably terrible? Naw. Fuck you.
Adrian Lewis
>why is hulk cgi, it should be a roided manlet with a wig! >my kids got bored by watching all the melodrama!
Leo Reed
That's legit what the Rotten Tomatoes reviews look like.
Andrew Foster
I would fucking love it. Ang Lee's Hulk is still the strongest.
Jordan Collins
Modern Marveldrones are slow-witted and need to be entertained by huge smashing scenes with snappy quips.
Because it was not a roided man painted with green literally. They were expecting the tv show stuff. It was nostalgia googles for the tv show. 20 years later we keep parroting the same bullshit and worse, they eat the mcu shit which is the same but worse
Leo Rogers
No Boomers want quip Hulk
Grayson Turner
No, at that time they wanted cheesy tv hulk, now they want quippy hulk
Michael Martinez
Now*
Leo Miller
SO SET ME FREE
SET ME FREE
CAUSE I THINK YOU NEED MY SOUL
SET ME FREE SET ME FREE
Chase Cooper
Still correct. No one knows what they want to put into a movie because you cannot please everyone.
>No, at that time they wanted cheesy tv hulk, This. Everyone shat on the CGI. Just look up old reviews. They were complaining about the most stupidest shit. The only valid concern I could agree with was the lack of action and maybe the story as a little too deep at the time.
Joshua Lewis
I liked the panels. They remind me of the Thomas Crown affair. I liked everything about this film. If I would change something it would be not being obsessed about Hulk not killing someone but on the other hand that's part of what makes it great.
Because Disney wasn’t blitzing everyone across every known form of medium about how awesome it was. Literally the only reason.
Jordan Gutierrez
This. It's hard to believe today, but prior to the MCU most people didn't know shit about comic book characters or nerd shit in general. The only way they knew the Hulk was from the tv show, and back then the Boomers had crazy nostalgia for all things 1970's. They were fucking bonkers for shit like Woodstock and Vietnam movies. They made a thousand big budget adaptations of 70's tv shows.
>If I would change something it would be not being obsessed about Hulk not killing someone That was one of the studios many, MANY rules that Ang Lee had to go to great lengths to work with. Another such rule was that the film had to include flying fighter jets in an action scene. Seriously. You should look up some of the crazy shit that happened during production. They cut Ang Lee's budget over and over, and kept slashing the CGI. There was originally around 30 more minutes of Hulk fights that were cut because the studio didn't want to invest in cgi.
Jeremiah Russell
I actually really like this size
Nolan Brown
I saw it maybe 15 years ago. I remember liking it but can't tell you what happened in it other than hulk smashing things. I remember a lot of people didn't like it. Maybe I'll watch it again and see.
Andrew Davis
Imagine your brain being on /pol/ and thinking every brown piece of shit is a fuckin spic
Grayson Foster
at the same time the themes of the movie are closer to the drama from the tv show than any of the mcu shit
Blake Long
Perfect size to me, it makes him unrelatable to human characters. Like he is too big to belong there. Like he doesnt really fit in their world.
Blake Fisher
I watched it as a kid thinking boomers were stupid for disliking it due to the CGI but turns out I also hated the movie
Jayden Gonzalez
Me too. I also really like how he grows noticeably larger the angrier he gets.
Michael Cook
Visual storytelling kino, Ang Lee does it again
Henry Jenkins
Ironically
Adrian King
So, to conclude this thread
FUCK BOOMERS
Ryan Taylor
Fuck this dog fight scene is actually still really fucking good even better than all the other Hulk fighting scenes. The Incredible Hulk's end fighting scene goes second.
a movie where the protag loses control is too much. the audience of a movie already has to passively watch action unfold, but at least they can self-insert as a character and feel what they're feeling. when that character loses control, the audience loses any connection they had with the plot.
A friend had a birthday when this came out and he invited our group of friends to see it. He wasn’t the type of kid to have birthday events like that, he wasn’t poor or anything but he has strict burnout hippy parents who just didn’t do much for their kids. The sound kept going “off” from the voices and The projector broke midway through and when they got it working again it felt like we missed something important. Afterwards he apologized for to us saying he thought it would have been better like the Spider-Man movie, I remember I felt bad for him. Never watched the movie again but my memory of it is pure garbage.
Lucas Nelson
Me too. I also like how they make it absolutely clear that if you plan on taking him down, it better be while he’s nice and calm. This Hulk was a motherfucking force of nature. He overloaded his own asshole dad with nothing but his pure, unbridled rage.
The shit was fucking fantastic.
Lincoln Clark
bad*
Sorry, typo
Henry Jenkins
Movie going audiences are dumb user, they're ruled by trends more than anything else >uuuh why he green and computer made, where are explosions Plus superhero movies was viewed differently, had it come out after 2008 you would see a lot more positive reviews for it
Michael Jenkins
In the comics he's roughly like that.
Jaxon Green
It's so weird. So people hated the HULK because it wasn't like their 70's Hulk. And Boomer's also hated the Prequel Star Wars movies because it wasn't like their 70's and 80's Original Star Wars trilogy.
Do you guys think that maybe the Prequel got too much hate because baby boomers were complaining about it not being exactly like the source material? And maybe give the Prequels another shot?
>Retarded 8 years old kid wants some superhero smashing shit >gets some human drama kino >the dissapointment is so big he hates the fuck out of that movie for the next 20 years >he never tries to watches it again, just remembers it was a really "bad movie" when he watched it as a 10 yo
Luckily for me I had 16 when I watched that movie
Christian Jackson
The prequels were successful though.
Christopher Lopez
Just another reason to hate retarded boomers
Bentley Martin
>He overloaded his own asshole dad with nothing but his pure, unbridled rage. >The shit was fucking fantastic. youtube.com/watch?v=nAUDzlJhqsg So fucking good.
This insane good scene bored me to tears when I saw this as an angsty teen.
It was slow as a snail and had cheesy albeit bold editing, but it's really nowhere the "bad" superhero movie they sell you in the reviews, and the focus on realism first to introduce the fantasy elements later is shit capeshit nowadays use.
Charles Lopez
But the same complaints on the HULK were exactly the same on the Prequel movies. They all said that there was too much CGI and not enough practical effects.
Doing the math we were actually like 13-14ish at the time and still hated it, though like I said the projector literally broke in the middle of the movie and we did go into it expecting... ya know... a super hero movie.
Logan Torres
>Eric Bana's rage
Holy shit him transforming or getting mad was fucking kino.
Samuel Myers
>mfw TAKE TAKE IT AAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! Oedipal as fuck.
Literally every casting choice was spot-on perfect. Not one improvement was made in Norton’s Hulk, not even Norton himself. Bana comes off as repressed and wounded. Norton comes off as a powder keg, but a bit of an asshole. Jenny was the perfect Betty, and Sam was the perfect Thunderbolt Ross, an explosive, pragmatic, conflicted man. It radiated off him.
Lincoln Hall
I saw this movie in theaters with my parents when I was 15. I remember thinking this whole ending was boring and stupid. I thought the final fight was underwhelming and just wanted to see the Hulk fight a giant monster in an "epic" beat down. Watched it again a couple months back and I legit couldn't believe how stupid I was. This entire scene is just packed with symbolism and emotional depth. It really gets to heart of the character.
Gabriel Hill
>Literally every casting choice was spot-on perfect. Watching this shit as a grown ass adult is weird. EVERY fucking scene is so engaging and mesmerizing. The way you can almost feel the emotion in the actors while they deliver their lines gives me shivers.
Luke Russell
This thread makes me CRY. I literally thought I was the only one who understood the kino of HULK. I am proud of you Yea Forums.
Kayden Walker
>I literally thought I was the only one who understood the kino of HULK. So did I, but every time someone actually watches it instead of just repeated bullshit they've heard about it, they come around.
Bentley Ross
Some artist make him that absurdly big. I remember him being more like 8 feet
In the comics his size in constantly in flux. That's one of the things Ang Lee got right.
James Ross
It's honestly a decent way to handwave Hulk's changing size between different artists, he is just at various stages of anger
Oliver Morgan
>They never going to make capekino like this, sadly Considering how badly it was received, yeah. The lesson the studios learned is that you have to make something big, noisy, and "fun."
>That's one of the things Ang Lee got right. I have no idea how one movie can get so much right and still be hated so much. It's madness.
That looks interesting to say the least. I really hope Ang Lee didn't change too much after the bullshit the studios threw at him with HULK.
Ethan Rodriguez
based elfman
David Lopez
loved this movie as a kid so idk
Lucas Smith
>Ang Lee took Eric Bana to watch a bare-knuckled boxing match to prepare him for the brutality of his role. >Billy Crudup turned down the role of Bruce Banner. Also considered were Tom Cruise, Johnny Depp, Jeff Goldblum, David Duchovny, and Steve Buscemi. Some neat imdb trivia :^)
Gen X popculture twat waffles hated HULK as much as the boomers. Just like they hated the Star Wars Prequels and anything else that wasn't an action figure in the fucking 80's. They're the reason why current nerd culture is stuck in nostalgia.
Andrew Wright
Love this scene, fucking brutal.
Jack Mitchell
High iq kid or highly autistic to be fair.
It was OK to be disappointed about a character drama when you were a kid. Its not ok to hold the same position 20 years later tho.
Easton Torres
how come there isn't a Mark Ruffalo hulk movie yet?
Jacob Butler
Universal still has the rights to all solo movies.
James Martin
Congrats Yea Forums on making me pick up the '03 hulk I guess.
Kayden Wood
Saw this in theaters with my dad even back then I thought the beginning story was so well done but everything else was just lame. I would've been happy with the entire movie just being the buildup story with one quality hulk breakout as the finale, closing scene on Banner trying to come to terms with the circumstances.
Jonathan Phillips
Watch it again as an adult, man. It's a different experience entirely.
Ian Wilson
Nick Nolte's scenery chewing is on another level here.
I'll go download it now if only for those sweet story feels
Lincoln Hill
This is yet another amazing scene that I thought was pointless as a child.
Jose Green
That Hulk was fucking beautiful, people were telling me they hate it only because of the CGI dogs. Don't get me wrong, I loved 2008 Hulk, but this movie was gold.
>all the flash backs to the abuse and then the Nuke >the TAKE IT ALLLLL >the ending
