What went wrong

This thread will be dedicated to critiquing Endgame. Don’t just blindly hate on the film but instead offer feedback. And be warned there are spoilers.

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I’ll start.
Mistakes in Endgame.
Before you call me a hater please note that I’m a HUGE MCU fan and I wanted to love this movie but I just could not.
>1. Captain Marvel just stole everyone’s thunder every second she was on screen. And why did everyone feel the need to compliment her every five minutes?To me all interactions with her just felt forced.
>2. Thor wasn’t the huge bad ass everyone wanted him to be. Instead the writers turned him into a joke the entire movie. It was funny the first ten minutes but got old quick.
>3. the movie did not need to be 3 hours long. The entire second act just dragged on for too long in my opinion. It just felt like the directors were basically saying “Hey remember when we did this?” And “Hey this guy used to be a character?” For about an hour and half.
>4. sadly the hulk was just more of a pussy in this one than he was in the last movie. I still liked him but I just wish we got more action with him.
>5. We did not see the OG avengers team up for one last time during the final fight scene. Instead we got that cringe worthy all female team up. I really hated this because they thought it was best to give characters (most of which haven’t even been in the mcu for longer than 4 years) priority over the OG cast simply because of what’s between their legs.
Don’t get me wrong, there was a lot to love about the movie. And that ending was just perfect. I’d rate it a 7/10. However, a movie this hyped up with this big of a budget needs to be more than that.

This is my same issue as well

>I'm a HUGE MCU fan

why would you admit that even anonymously. grow up.

I’m glad somebody agrees. Also one more issue I forgot to point out.
6. Thanos was completely ruined. He started out as a misunderstood hero who only wanted to prevent people from the same tragedy that he suffered from. In Endgame he just turned into a generic over the top villain. He seemed more focused on killing and destroying than he did on bringing balance.

infinity war was a perfect movie
hard act to follow

it is trash xD i never watched it hehe

It's a MCU highlight reel and that's it

I enjoy the movies for what they are. I don’t think they’re masterpieces by a long shot but I still get excited every time I see one. However, I will admit that they’ve been seriously mediocre as of late.

They had Infinity Gauntlet Thanos almost get BTFO by like 3 different small groups of Avengers through Infinity War and in this movie he can suddenly hold his own against a shitload of Avengers all ganging up on him.
Not to mention how Stormbreaker was powerful enough to resist a blast created by the six Infinity Stones in the previous movies and in this one it gets blocked by Thanos' sword, which apparently is stronger than the greatest reality-bending shit introduced so far.

Who in the ACTUAL FUCK was that kid standing in the back at Tony Stark's funeral? Not one of Clint's kids, and the people standing in front of him were, I believe if I'm remembering right, the Secretary of Defense and Maria Hill. I could not place this fucking kid anywhere from any other movie. He was obviously somewhat important since the camera lingered on him a while.

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Everything between the logo reveal scene and the resurrection scene is fucking awful.

What pisses me off most is that everything up until the “endgame” logo scene is fucking amazing. The picnic is great, the scene of Tony and Nebula dicking around is cool, the message to pepper is even better than the trailer, the cinematography and acting of Tony on the benatar is great, the initial reunion of Tony where he says “ I lost the kid” is fucking great, but the greatest scene of the movie is when Tony tells Cap to fuck off and he rips the IV out of his arm. The acting is so real and convincing, the Rocket raccoon “build a bear” joke is easily one of the best jokes in the MCU, and I like that Tony didn’t just forget all the shit that went down in Civil war.

After that the movie falls downhill fast. The fight on the garden is ok but I knew the movie was headed for worse when Thor said “I went for the head”. The scene should have been played for Drama but they threw unnecessary camp in there.

In fact that’s a perfect summary of the next 2 hours of the movie. Sacrificing emotion for Camp.

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It did a good job paying tribute to the big 3 (Captain,Ironman,Thor).

Shame about no big team up with the original 6.

Black widow dying was whatever, her character was boring to begin with, she had nothing else really going for her.

Wish it had more dialogue between Captain and Thanos.

Thor being a power house in 1st movie was sweet, then we get fat depressed drunk nerfed lame ass Thor.

Girl power xd....fuck off.

>He was obviously somewhat important since the camera lingered on him a while
why do these movies lack any subtlety whatsoever? plebs are getting conditioned

That’s the little fag from Iron man 3

The minor dipshit kid from Iron Man 3 that helps him out when he crashes in bumfuck no where.

I can only assume it was that faggot kid from iron man 3 with the potato gun

I’m pretty sure it’s the kid from iron man 3. The one who helped tony. Can’t remember his name though. I’m guessing nobody recognized him because he’s much older now.

Oh, that actually makes perfect sense.
Thanks.

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it was the kid from iron man 3

I agree. Those first 20 minutes really hyped me up. Then it just all went downhill. It felt like the Russo brothers just dug themselves into a hole and they didn’t know how to write their way out of it. And then producers come along and say “we need to these to be 3 hours” which just makes it worse for everyone.

>misunderstood hero
He was always a psychopath with a justification. That's all. He changes his plan to a reboot after he sees he was in error, and that the 50% survivors don't accept what he did and make the best out of what he gave them.

Tom Holland and Harley Keener Ty Simpkins are so handsome.

>not a single “good guy” dies in the final battle
Pretty fucking stupid. At least show some Wakandans dying or something

The 20second chant of all the wakandans and the stupid IBOMBAY IBOMBAY

mother fuckers this is end game not black panther 2

That’s another complaint of mine. I feel like that game would have been 100 times better if Spider-Man was the first to arrive out of the portal. Black panther just didn’t cut it for me.

>In fact that’s a perfect summary of the next 2 hours of the movie. Sacrificing emotion for Camp.
The movie was plenty emotional enough, pretty much all character arcs and relationships were tied up and called back upon. The humor in this film was easily the best of the entire franchise.

My only issue with this film is how dumb and sudden the ending battle is. Also it seemed unnecessary to have all the Wakandan armies back again, the film makes them equivalent of the mindless drones they are fighting. Would have much rather just watch all the actual hero characters fight, it felt like dumping the toybox and cramming everything possible into this battle.

. We did not see the OG avengers team up for one last time during the final fight scene. Instead we got that cringe worthy all female team up. I really hated this because they thought it was best to give characters (most of which haven’t even been in the mcu for longer than 4 years) priority over the OG cast simply because of what’s between their legs
Um...you do realize they were given that treatment for the sole purpose of introducing them as the new avengers right? All the new avengers will either be black or female.

Considering that Sam was the one saying "on your left" to Cap, I was expecting Falcon myself. But year, T'challa's appearance was odd.

>What went wrong
SJW bullshit, using movies to brainwash children

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>I never thought captain marvel over stayed her welcome, and really appreciate that she didn't become an easy clutch for the series to rely on to beat thanos.
>Thor was a bit of a let down, But he had his reasons to be the way he was
>I think it was three hours to appease the die hard fans who wanted a bunch of fan service, thats all really.
>Hulk wasn't hulk, he was banner and banner is a bit of a pussy
>It was sad we didn't see an original line up, you can argue no one really would care to see nat or clint take on thanos. The female shot was a bit cringe, but it didn't over stay and wasn't pushed as a "Women are better than men" instead just a little thing for the women who might want to see a cool panoramic shot for the female heroes. If anything we should be happy it was only a single shot and not an entire scene.

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I think an argument could be made that they killed nat just to have her do something. And really as much as it would've been nice im not aching for a shot of the original six.
(Thankfully the girl shit wasn't worse. I had read a thing where someone said the women took turns beating on thanos, which im glad didn't happen.

doesn't she has like super ugly feet or something?

I really hate how smug or disgusted she always looks. She either looks like she thinks shes better than everyone around because shes playing Captain Marvel, or she looks disgusted that she has to be here, playing captain marvel. really hope she gets better or gets Rhodey'd

Fat Thor was unironically the best part of the film.

>shield is practically useless to anyone but Bucky, who prefers guns
>running a kingdom actually fucking sucks and its more fun doing literally anything else
>also running a kingdom is a good way to guarantee that you'll job to anything and everything until you lose said kingdom and become a normal fighting joe/jane

I don't see the problem here.

Thanos should have snapped a second time but have tony take the stones as he was snapping, then the avengers are in the soul realm so they get Natasha back and have the original six fight Thanos there, each fighting in their respective styles.
Thor should have just gotten angry and shocked himself a new body like those shock ab workouts.

Thanos shouldn’t have been full genocide he should have said he would destroy the stones when he snaps to remove half the world, to do it right, or snapped to the future when the universe is exchausted then said he would rebuild from there after everyone died naturally but the avengers would stop him because they have a vendetta

acting all smug.. like her feet don't stink

Lets be honest, Nat would not have survived the base attack anyway.

I really wish they casted Ronda Rousey. If you going to hire a terrible actor at least hire a terrible actor who looks the part.

I actually don't think he was ruined, he was the same character who realized that despite attaining his goal, a group of characters were trying to undo all that he achieved and that they might succeed. His persona changed after seeing Nebula's recordings, and so when he monologued in the future, he was going for a complete annihilation of living beings and restarting anew so there wouldn't be any attempts to redo his doings. He even says that his death and violence was not personal but he was willing to make an exception with Earth due to the Avengers' heist.

Yeah what was up with the shield thing? "Yeah, you are Captain America now, except you don't have the super soldier serum or come even close to me in skill. I guess they'll have to put up with a normal dude who used to have stupid wings and now has a stupid shield",

Why didn't captain America kill Hitler?

Probably not, The fact Clint lived was quite surprising

enjoyed it

Nebula and gamora not beating thanos. A huge point was then not having the courage to stand up to their father even if he was wrong. Considering the screen time given, wasted potential.

Thanos not defeating himself or having an innate flaw that prevents him from winning. No true reflections on his belief despite seeing the future

Not enough actual deaths. Tony and black widow die. That's it. Wow? So why they talk so much about sacrifice if almost no one dies?

Captain marvel. Should not have appeared. She contributed no major points anyway to the plot so why even call her up?

There's a lot that is stupid about the time travel in this movie, but anyone unironically posting "IF THEY CHANGED X THEN HOW DOES Y HAPPPEN" should be euthanized, or at the very least quarantined for being so retarded.

Blame the movie for establishing that changing the past creates a new timeline and even shitting on Back to the Future to drive the point home and then introducing old Cap in the main timeline even though he should be leaving in a different one.

For me what made IW was Thanos himself. We see his journey collecting the stones, meeting up with the avengers and providing emotional connection for the audience to connect. All that got thrown out in Endgame where Thanos felt like a shell of his former self. It was NOT the Thanos that I root for and like.

First hour is a fat lot of nothing.
Backpedaling on Thanos and making him just another of the same brand of evil guy doing evil things the MCU has been doing.
Time travel plot device.
Hawkeye.
The number of casualties amoung heroes is way too low.
Captain Mehrvel.

I’m glad you did. I also enjoyed it. But these flaws are just keeping it from living up to the hype imo. But don’t let these people ruin it for you though. You just enjoy what you want.

thanks user, actually came out of the theater and wanted to check here to see what others thought. im sure some were gonna be disappointed but nice to see others liked it as well despite its flaws

>Thanos not defeating himself or having an innate flaw that prevents him from winning. No true reflections on his belief despite seeing the future
Implying there's anything wrong with his views.
>Captain marvel. Should not have appeared. She contributed no major points anyway to the plot so why even call her up?
Because it helps reinforce that the new avengers team is going to be all female or black.

Black widow's death was stupid. Imagine if we got actual character development with Cap and had him sacrifice his mental image/memory of peggy, going full circle having him let go of the past as a man from the past out of time instead of that stupid bullshit.

You'd think "fine, they have to have the fight against Thanos as some kind of revenge", but it wasnt even the 'real' one, so there's zero emotional resonance to the fight - it's cgi vs cgi. It felt like a Thor 2 or Ultron tier vapid capeshit (plus a nostalgic clip show).

It was vapid from the start. Badly edited (some of Brie's shots seemed almost tacked on at the last second), badly paced, awful send off and it killed any emotional resonance with these characters and world - I just dont care anymore. Pick some universe #2213b spiderman and say he's spiderman or whatever

Thor's fat jokes were old by the second scene, scarjo was relatively sympathetic in a way she wasnt since Winter Soldier, Tony and his daughter were the best moments, all of Cap's issues (in dealing with returning from the war and feeling ill adjusted) all being solved by time travel is cheating, Bulk was initially just a jump cut gag that then kept on going

Nevermind the "sjw" shit (yes it was there), it was just bad overall. That 'sjw' shit only grabs on when any notion of decent storytelling and emotional resonance goes away and everyone is just doing power level shit or voodoo-logic 'representation' (which of course is never reciprocal)

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>Hawkeye
Hawkeye was unironically great in this. He was the emotional, human connection in this film.

I couldn't help but laugh at the scene where thanos completely destroyed the avengers headquarters and everyone inside was fine, even ant man and hawkeye

literal nerf missiles, in the fight scene you see multiple people hit directly by missiles and are fine.

They had to make him wrong. Otherwise it would mean our capeshit heroes shouldn't be winning and that's not allowed

The problem is execution. Thanos goes could I be wrong? No it's the humans who are wrong! Must genocide them all even though I previously respected those who valliantly fought!

It's not just about the missiles. A big ass building fell on all of them. Come on

they could have easily trimmed it

That's what they wanted him to be, he just turned out annoying. Much more so than before.

What went wrong is that when the movie first came out, I posted a very long list of plot holes, critiques etc. Only to be met by what I presume are mouseshills with responses like 'yikes' and 'cringe'.

The Time travel storyline ruined the movie for me

His end goal is still stated in the same way, "a grateful universe". He's making a utopia, and to him the ends justify the means. So again,
>Implying there's anything wrong with his views.

Yeah his character was not consistent what so ever. It’s like the writers forgot that he was doing this because he cared in a way. Hearing him wanting to destroy an entire universe just didn’t add up with what we had in infinity war.

That’s one thing I forgot to add. THE PLOTHOLES! And I really did not like that scene were they mentioned all of those other time traveling movies and mentioned how inaccurate they are. Like that does not make your movie anymore accurate.

In an early draft of the film, they all did die, and then the female team up occurs to help defeat Thanos.

>for sure that dude isn't going back to his family
>nope, perfectly fine

No kidding, it reminds me of dumb low budget weebshit rpgs.

>infinity war ends
>"surely they won't use time travel to fix things!"

I think they could have handled the time travel thing much better. When they were using pop culture references to justify how time travel worked it seemed really half assed, like they didnt even know what they were doing.

Secondly the sleight of hand when Tony stole the stones. He could have easily done that in Infinity War and invalidated the whole need for a second movie. Things like this reveal how padded Endgame was.

Minor gripe but I think the combat was way better in the first.

Also Grrrl power was cringe as fuck.

>Captain marvel. Should not have appeared. She contributed no major points anyway to the plot so why even call her up?

The stupid thing is when Captain Marvel came out they were acting like she was gonna be so crucial to beating Thanos and she didnt really do anything. Also the shitty attitude of "oh Im busy and have other planets to save". Hello you have a cosmic destroyer out there who should be your number one priority.


I give it a 7/10. For all the hype and years of build-up it was just average. I got to see it early for free so I cant complain too much.

Is this the TFA of the MCU?

>I'LL HEAD DOWN FOR RECON
did they add that at the last second?

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wow endgame was so great, cant wait for the nex-
Oh, we seeing this again? Oh, Its more ironman circlejerk?
At least the fight was great but man what a drag.

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Loved:
Boomer Thor.

Hated:
Everything else.

he was cool in lebowski mode burping (and funny when trying to run as a fat bitch) but him crying and all else was bad

So wait, did fox actually do time travel better with the xmen movies?

Ok so tell me this, is this a captain fungus movie? Because if that reprehensible cunt is given the focus I'm not even going to pirate this piece of shit, I haven't even seen the previous one and when I heard that they're going to prop up that fucking shitsack I lost interest in seeing it, but I might pirate them both and watch them if my brain is not going to be insulted by that hateful cockroach.

So you are telling me that the Wasp left the dangerous and highly surrounded time travel van without issue to go pose with all the other females to help captain marvel get to said van?

The world was surprisingly ill functional. There's still 3 billion people on the planet but this movie acted like it was Fallout at times, like people couldn't get up and go to work.

cgi captain america at the end looked like dogshit

Now that the first mega-arc of the MCU is complete, when will they start selling special edition versions of all the earlier movies that include nods to the later ones?
You just know some faggot will pay for 30 seconds of added footage in Avengers 1 where Fury or Coulson is playing with Moose on the helicarrier.

Yeah I’m still reeling with this one. Days of future past is unironically better

What the fuck was up with that "YOU GO GIRLS" scene?
They had female characters kicking ass the entire movie and showing they are more than capable to protect the universe. What was need to have such a fucking corny, stupid and obvious scene?

yes easily

Just woke up after the 59 hour, 22 movie marathon of MCU movies. The showers in the truck outside the theater weren't bad actually, I took 3 during my time there, and did around 5.5 grams of cocaine

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The first hour tried way too hard to bring the audience on the pity boat, it turned out utterly unconvincnig.

Fungus is just there being a bitch for like 5 minutes then fucked off until the finale to do some obligatory virtue signalling

Maybe from a storytelling perspective. But from a rules perspective DoFP was like "change the past lol whatevs" where at least Endgame pretended their time travel had rules. The rules were apparently not harshly enforced, but whatever

She shows up for like 3 minutes at the beginning to get wanked by the other characters, helps them murder an already half-dead Thanos and then fucks off for 99% of the movie, only to come back for the final battle to destroy some ship, fight Thanos for a while and take part of a grrl power scene.
I don't really get why they advertised her as the strongest Avenger and their last hope and the one who would beat Thanos when even fucking Hawkeye contributed more to the plot than her.

I'd still fat Thor

So, can I watch it without blood coming out of my asshole?

Why couldn't they cast a better looking white girl?

why was captain marvel so up her own ass the whole film?

Basically it's 3 hours long with few surprises.

Most of the duration is explaining concepts to the audience to tie everything up as quick as possible.
It was already known Captain Marvel would be in it, it was already known Thanos couldn't truly be out of the movie at the very beginning, it was already known Cap would pick up the hammer and it was already known all the heroes would be coming back because Spidey.
So the audience basically has to sit through 3 hours to see what they already imagined happening.
Also all of the scenes occuring during the past are not at all interesting and serve only to reiterate on "how far the series has come" in case people forgot how many movies there have been.
The final battle is horrible too.

She kicks some ass at the beginning and at the end but she's not a major player. She's off-screen saving the universe most of the movie and basically shows up at the end to blow up a ship

Her attitude is almost exactly the same as Captain Marvel which is a gigantic disappointment. But her new haircut is cute

>you will never fuck your girlfriend in a marvel marathon

Fucking Redditard GTFO and die

Don't forget that Thanos beats her ass pretty good with a power stone punch. I'm glad she wasn't as central as I thought she'd be.

Hey remember that funny moment when Scott is testing time travel and turns into a baby, why don't they just do that to captain america and make him young again?

Have you seen her solo movie? That's just her personality.

Gotta keep up with the woke times broseph

yes, she's literally hardly in it.
I think they knew people would hate her.

the ultimate movie-hop

1 ticket. 3 days.

Christ I might have done that if I had nothing better to do

Weren't strange and peter on another planet when they got snapped? How did they return to earth?

Ok thanks. And yeah maybe they saw the writing on the wall while working with her.

she was cutting up with her soldier friends, she joked around with sam jackson in the cockpit and other scenes. she turned into a bitch again in this film. also what the fuck is more important than stopping thanos? why does she fuck off so much and show up to punch through stuff? why even bother going to tony's funeral aren't there more important things she should be doing?

>cute
She looks like fucking Ellen Degeneres except grumpier.

He was implying that black people have the fast twitch muscle fiber that makes them on par with a white man on super serum.

Sling ring

>strange

you answered your own question

the hygiene kit had some condoms in it, I put them on my fingers when I was fingering my gf and and the other fat lady next to me while my gf was sleeping, she also gave me a handjob under my free blanket during Thor: Dark World

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well they could jump around after using the platform without using the platform again. I just assume he waited his whole life before jumping back to sit on the bench nearby. no more contradictions, and it's easily explained with something they've already shown in the film

*does a different sex position for every movie*

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it really should have picked up where the other movie left off instead of wasting so much time on exposition

also where the fuck did shield go?

>The hygiene bag contains the soundtrack code, a toothbrush, mints, chapstick and tissues

No Axe™ Body Spray?

. sadly the hulk was just more of a pussy in this one than he was in the last movie. I still liked him but I just wish we got more action with him.

It would be epic Professor Hulk V Thanos, but they gave priority to Captain Marvel
She literally stole the torch.

>ant man 2 after credits scene
>"be sure not to fall into any time vortexes"
ugh...

That's the most likely explanation but it's fucking stupid how no one even adresses it.
Sam, Bucky and Bruce knew the rules of time travel so you'd think at least one of them would ask "Dude, how the fuck are you here as an old man if you lived your life in a different timeline?".

>Secondly the sleight of hand when Tony stole the stones. He could have easily done that in Infinity War and invalidated the whole need for a second movie.
it's an entirely different gauntlet tho, 2nd one is of his making

Just the hair is cute. Not what it's attached to

Because it isn't a different timeline. He returned the stones.

Why didn't tony just program the gauntlet to not fit Thanos?

Literally? Red pill me on the torch scene in the movie.

Isn't Cap kind of a cunt for fucking off at the end of the movie?
The world has just lost one of its greatest heroes and they don't know what future threats loom in the horizon and yet he decides to pass the mantle to a guy who was already doing hero work (essentially reducing the total superhero count down by one) and leave that timeline to go fuck his girlfriend.

she could be edited out of the movie entirely and I don't think it would actually change much of anything aside from having to hand waive one scene transition. several scenes she is just standing in the background and the camera occasionally cuts to her to show her reaction but she isn't taking part in the conversation in any way, just making faces

It is a different timeline.
The timeline where the movies takes place is the one where Peggy married some literal who and didn't reunite with Cap till she was on her deathbed.

Hulk has even meatier fingers, tho.

when iron man uses thor's lightning to zap thanos, thanos is standing right in front of the van. he's in front of the van for a good minute with all of the people shooting shit at him. it's no wonder the van didn't get exploded by any of that

capfags got btfo in this
noone can defend him anymore
muh constitution was a total idiot

>seconding this
I'm not super excited about the movie, but I want to watch it for the closure unless there's unacceptable amounts of cringe.

Her hand emits light just like a torch.

The only capeshit I've watched is the first thor, the first ironman and the first guardians of the galaxy, I don't even like comic books. Am I missing out?

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>tfw got spoiled and know every single detail
Fuck me

It had women and coloured people in it.

The cringe comes mainly from the usual shitty jokes and one scene where all the female superheroes are somehow together with no male in sight so you get a "cool" shot of them making battle poses.

Exactly, it could have made itself too big for Thanos to snap with, or too thin to even fit on one of Thanos' fingers.

You definitely missed out with infinity war. Endgame isn’t worth it.

you have to see winter soldier
kinda not really, this movie doesnt have future memes

he didn't have his sling ring otherwise why the fuck did they crash in that ship during infinity war? I am pretty sure he lost it in the battle in the streets earlier on and did not have one. they did probably get picked up from someone on earth using a sling ring or some shit who knows

Also, I just noticed, that means Cap literally wiped Sharon Carter from existence.

It's pretty obvious it's supposed to be the same reality.

Shut the fuck up you fucking nigger

>flirts with her
>kisses her
>never contacts her again
>goes back in time and causes her to never exist
Why was Captain America such a dick to Peggy's granddaughter?

Easy: there wasn't 3 hours worth of story just redoing IW. If they'd gone in another direction, or limited it to 85 minutes, it would have been fine.

They come back through a sling ring portal, man. I don't think they give a shit if he had a ring or not.

>Black widow dying was whatever

It was the only thing that made me see these movies
Bye Bye MCU movies for me in theaters

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How so? Sharon is Peggy's grandniece, not granddaughter.

It can't be retard. He lived in his own future which became the past.

No it isn't.
Not only they explained that changing the past creates a self-contained timeline, but there is no way that at the very least Winter Soldier and Civil War could have played the same way if Peggy didn't marry that random guy and eventually had a grandaughter.

>The world has changed and none of us can go back. All we can do is our best, and sometimes the best that we can do is to start over.
*fucks her niece*

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This sums up the movie

>women good
>men bad

same
winter soldier made me fall in love with widow and rogers

>segregation is a good thing
t. disney

>here's your avengers, bro

Disney missed the big chance to revive almost every Asgardian like the comics
Sometimes MCU really stink

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okay...
Now explain how cap, who went back in the past and stayed there--changing that reality forever--somehow managed to make it to the end of this movie.

>two fucking Cap movies about moving on from the past and finding new meaning in his life in the present
>Endgame proceeds to ignore that and have him just go back to the past
Fucking hacks.

>What the fuck was up with that "YOU GO GIRLS" scene?
You know exactly what. And remember that IW did something along those lines except that it actually worked there.

Passing down the shield to him was hilarious. Marvel had one job

bro you gotta do it

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>Fucks her niece
And then fucks her. Captain America got to hammer prime Hayley Atwell's puss and spray his super soldier serum all over her huge tits.

Not really. Those are the best movies of the franchise.

Disney pushes the homosexual agenda in children's films. Kikes that run that place are evil.

Niggah that's literally what I was complaining about.
It makes no sense that he would be there since he lived his life in a different timeline and even the most likely explanation which is "he just time traveled back to the original timeline as an old man to give them the shield" is never even implied and no one points out how weird it is for Cap to be there.

Their job was to subvert minds and they did it.

What do you think the kikes at Disney wanted to symbolically accomplish by having a white man go back to the past and hand “America” (symbolized by the shield) to the grounds?

This is literally “shut and go back to reminiscing about the 40s goy, America now belongs to the shwatzers”

theres no time travel going on. its just mutiverse shit

I guess they know their viewers are retards.
If I gave a shit about that girl power stuff I would feel pretty pissed that they think I'm so stupid that I need a scene that pretty much screams "LOOK, THIS GIRLS ARE SO BADASS" when the rest of the movie shows that in much more subtle way.

Shh, shh... They needed to give the shield to Hawkman, a character so well-developed I don't even remember his name. God, it should've gone to Bucky.

What is he even going to do with just the shield? At least go back in time and bring some super soldier serum for the guy.

glad she wasn't in 95% of the movie but i was cringing every second she was on screen

>Hawkman
i thought his name is blackbird.

The only thing that went wrong is spoilers before it came out and Captain marvel was still in it

>At least go back in time and bring some super soldier serum for the guy.
NO TIME. GOTTA FUCK HAYLEY ATWELL AGAIN.

all that trouble..... for nothing

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I'm not saying it makes sense. I'm saying they fucked up and made cap live with Peggy in the same reality as before, contradicting the pre established rules

Can't wait for episode IX

Professor Hulk at MCU was a disaster
They just picked up Banner and made it green and strong.
Professor Hulk is a new personality, who dresses up as a younger guy and wears hipster hairstyles
The Hulk's healing factor is slower than Wolvene, but it's still fast
So if everything went write, the can get Hulk against Thanos and the Captain Marvel's presence would be useless.
They made Thor be fat and less important in the fight to give more torch to Carol Danvers.
She is literally stealing time and space for the original avengers

He's going to give it to Morgan so she can go sledding.

>mfw 90% of her dialogue DURING those moments was either, "ohoho there's so many more planets in the galaxy, like for real" or "I'm tough!"

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It's birdbrain.

Yeah why didn’t they give it to Bucky? He could have been like the red hood of the MCU meaning he’s a lot like his predecessor but he’s more lethal and bad ass. It makes no sense that he hands his legacy to some guy he met 8 years ago rather than his life long friend. Hell entrusting his legacy to both of them would have more sense than that.

What disappointed me was Thanos didn't kill anybody. He had the opportunity to do so many times but instead of actually killing heroes, he punches them in the face or throws them around. Not once does he rip someone's arm, leg, head or stab with his sword. Pissed me off so much.

ruffalos acted better as prof hulk than bruce banner

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The how cap time traveled and lived his live until meeting again as a old man?
They lied and there is time travel and that's why Loki will be back, because him with the tesseract was the only thing they greatly changed by mistake.

You seriously overestimate the intelligence levels of the average mutt.

That also shits completely on Cap's characterization.
The guy who would oppose his friends and the entire world to protect his best friend was apparently fine with allowing said best friend to get tortured by Hydra for years just so he could be with his waifu without dragging attention to himself.

Because Disney are hacks and had to show the world the new face of America is black. I guess after the Mighty Whitey Power Hour that was IW their collective Hasidic guilt was urging them towards breaking established buildup over the course of their goddamn trilogy.

Because it was in the comics.

In the comics it made more sense because at least Cap and Falcon have been buddies since forever.

I bet every Irish man saw that movie.

wtf im gay now

A movie already available in very good audio video quality.
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SUBVERSION.

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old cap traveled back to the universe he came from and sat on the bench while everyone's attention is away.

>wearing a wife beater while drinking beer
Real classy Brie.

The face punch should have fucked them up anyway.
He beat the shit out of Hulk and knocked out Cap for a while with his punched in IW but in this one he punche both Cap and Iron Man in the face and they are only shown to be kind of groggy.

>"You know, your dad liked cheeseburgers
>I'll get you all the cheeseburgers you want"
post yfw

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I can't see him being okay with that at all.

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter

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Ugly Tranny face of hayley atwell ruined the ending.

>Professor Hulk is a new personality, who dresses up as a younger guy and wears hipster hairstyles

Professor Hulk it would never be that 4 days beard
It is a completely unnecessary CG work

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>That's America's ass

Could Captain America carry the hammer cause he's a virgin?

>"How abou you get me the Infinity Gauntlet and revive my father, you fucking cunt. Why is everyone acting like his death is permanent when you literally have a reality-bending device on your hands that already brough back that robot fucker after he 'died'? What? You don't want to die or get hurt while using it? Wow, that's selfish considering my dad sacrificed himself to save your asses. How about your ask the Asgardian god or the Marvel cunt to do it then? I'm sure they can take it"
What did she mean by this?

She's got a fat ass, huge tits and all the plush you need to start a family.

If that was their intention cap would have just come back through the portal. The way they shot that scene implies time travel in the same reality after returning the stones.

Cap should have died doing a heroic sacrifice to save all.

Tony should have lived

Captain Marvel was the only thing I didn't like. Brie fucking sucks. She had no arc in the film - she showed up as a deus ex machina for Tony Stark and then showed up again but was even less relevant.

she's got a stupid dyke haricut now. they're trying to make her as unlikable as possible

Nah it was fine she was Irrelevant for the entire movie

The truth is they broke their own time travel rules just to eliminate alternative realities and bring loki back

It that was their intention they could have just shown Cap telling them that he was going back to his time and not returning, having a heartfelt goodbye with his friends and giving whathisname the shield.

With time stone they could have done this.

Also turn steve back to young at the end.

>that 10 minute scene where Captain Marvel rants about enacting the "second snap" against the Kree, even quoting Ronin at parts while spitting at, "Those soulless goblins"
What did she mean by this?

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They had to show old Steve Rogers as fanservice because for a while it happened in the comics.

Tony had a wife, a kid and could still do great things with his skills. Instead Steve got to time travel and cuck some guy.

>shown Cap telling them that he was going back to his time and not returning, having a heartfelt goodbye
they imply that in bucky's reaction

>and giving whathisname the shield.
God, I feel so uncomfortable at the fact they made a Literal Who into Captain America, especially when Bucky was RIGHT THERE.

honestly why the fuck is he there?

It's easy to understand. Captain American drops off all the stones and the last one is in 1970 where he marries the Margaret lady. 50 years later he sneaks up to the place where he was sent back. He doesn't time travel again.
Loki comes back cause they messed up the post avengers 2012 timeline.
Captain marvel is a dyke.
Spiderman is a midget. And 5 years later still in high school.
Thor will be in GotG 3 along with Loki.

But that's basically what happened, except he passed the torch as an old man.

But they could have done that too.
Have Cap say goodbye to his friends, give Sam his shield and leave that timeline, then show him reuniting with Peggy and spending the rest of his life with her till he is an old man sitting in a bench in the park and comes across that timeline version of one of his friends or something like that.
That way you keep the time travel rules consisent, give him a proper happy ending and get a heartwarming and emotional moments that retarded Youtubers will use to spawn a million reaction videos.

all that buildup and foreshadowing for nothing

>Loki dies in Infinity War
>"no resurrections this time"
>literally gets resurrected a year later

Agreed, except I doubt loki will be on gotg

It happened in the comics.

The more I think about it, the more angry I get that Tony died.

Tony had a family and was using his intelligence to improve the world

Captain is a steroid cheat users who gave the shield to the wrong person and used the time powers just to get his dick wet.

The more you think about it, the more you realize endgame really is shitting on all the values it spouts.

I mean doing that BEFORE he goes back in time in order to avoid breaking their own rules by having him be in the same timeline as them with no explanation. Plus that way Captain America doesn't need to lie to his own friends like a cunt.

but how they gonna show the boomers that racism is wrong?

Who cares, Bucky becomes Captain America too. Falcon had so little buildup to becoming the next America while every movie with Bucky foreshadowed the shield.

It's not a ressurection if you didn't die in the first place, is it?

>you're taking all the stupid with you
Literally, cap's gone senile

I hated the women shot but for the reason it actually diminished them as individuals, defining them by gender.

Wanda especially as she had just been presented as a huge lone wolf threat to Thanos.

Putting her in that shot demoted her to sidekick and sure enough she was nerfed so Carol could get the big moment.

more people should have died unironically

Just have Cap give Sam the shield and say some gay shit like "Now it's your turn to protect this world".

I think we can all agree that this would make a lot more sense, but I dont think that was their intention

They killed Nat to make way for Carol.

Thor, Tony and Steve could've died and I would be happy.

have sex

Why suddenly "past" Nebula had all the memories of "future" Nebula, like they are somewhat connected? The moment she time travelled her past twin have access to all her memory? How?

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Yeah, even though this makes Tony very admirable it's really unfair how things turned out.

>thanos gets the stark gauntlet
>"I am inevitable"
>snaps, nothing happens
>tony reveals that he has the stones
>"looks like this is YOUR endgame, faggot"
>snaps and kills everyone, including his own teammates and daughter
What fucking hack wrote this ending? What a stupid sendoff to the MCU

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Nebula stores her memory on THE CLOUD.

Get it?

Peter Parker gets snapped. Is gone for 5 years, then enrolls in high school again?

Why?

It would have been better with a token male, like Ant-Man or something acting all dumb like "It feels a bit weird being here for some reason..."

in the end, captain was nothing but a glorified steroid soldier while tony was learning to be the hero

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they imply they share some non-centralized network consciousness

basically she went to the past and is using the same router

They share a network or wavelength of consciousness or whatever

black people in the theater got really excited when they showed up though. Maybe its not for you

The only people who can do humor like that are the south park guys. Hollywood is too jewish to do something that funny.

Hulk snaps everyone back, Ironman snaps Thanos bye-bye but no one bothers to snap Ironman back to life even though they have the stones and both gauntlets?

Horrible storytelling!

tony, cap, maybe hawkeye and bruce and tchalla or someone would have worked

steve should have died with tony

>sendoff
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh Karen you and your legs and legwear makes me go CRAZY

it's sad. makes black people look like programmed lemmings

Tfw love you 3000

ironman wasnt there to fix it

Yeah. If they had at least said that the stones can only return those killed by the same stones or whatever, that would have been an easy out.

Checked. I bawled like a fucking child I'm not even ashamed.

Steve should have been the one to die using the Infinity Gauntlet while Tony got fucked up in such a way that he couldn't fight anymore and retired to focus on his family.
Or just have them both die to defeat Thanos.

>white man gives woman his kingdom
>white man gives black man his shield
>white woman is the new lead of MCU
The next 10 years of marvel is looking bright.

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it was really enjoyable up until the generic final battle. Everything after was awful. They even managed to screw up the Starlord-Thor bantz

Tony's kid is already traumatized. She doesn't show any semblance of emotion when she sees her dead father again.

Fat Thor, Korg, and Meek.
They should form the new bro-vengers team

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>bright
>black stars

No. it's looking black, lesbian, LGBT, the works.

Then someone else would have died. It would have just caused a never ending circle of people sacrificing themselves to save another. Only for them to be brought back to life by another person who eventually dies. I think a lot of people forget how damaging the gauntlet was.

I liked the "Avengers assemble" thing unironically. It was corny as fuck but it's the kind of corny I like to see and it's the kind of thing that I know I would have loved when I was a kid.

She’s not even the strongest Avenger. Nobody has a problem with Wanda fucking up Thanos the most.

When has falcon ever shown qualities of being worth to become captain america?
>retired soldier
>happened to meet cap on a run
>user of prototype wings
>just follows cap and do everything he does
That's literally it, sam wilson doesn't have a character arc that's shown to steve that he should be captain america.

Verizon/Sprint guy shilling his gayness
>Muh wymyn scene
>thor fat
This movie is the passing of the torch. Its all downhill from here. Please stop giving Disney power over you.

I just remembered the Fortnite shit.
What were they thinking?

>Then someone else would have died
Not necessarily. Thor probably could've handled it

Hes a POC you bigot. I bet you hail hydra too.

Hulk survived and Thor and Captain Marvel could probably survive too.
It's not like you need all the stones to bring someone back, the soul and/or time stone are probably enough.

wanda actually has a character, though I wish we had the more sexy dressed version

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So Thor is depressed because he doesnt feel useful . HE STILL WASNT USEFUL, HE DID FUCKALL TO BRING PEOPLE BACK

why are you wasting my fucking time with mom scenes if there isnt a arc, how is this relevant to show during 3 hours?

its literally just to shit on him with no purpose

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even hawkeye and war machine are more qualified

Sam Wilson is hardly even a character. What does he DO besides, "I'm shooting the gun!" Or "I offer a mildly interesting suggestion."

I don't like capeshit but I watched this four days ago for the sake of spoiling random strangers. Since when does Tony's chick have a suit? How did she get to the battlefield so fast if she wasn't dusted? Why do I even care?

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>kills millions

They may have been baddies, but, thats A LOT of living beings.

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two things went wrong
1 cap marvel
2 time travels

>Fortnite puts disney shit in their game
>they get free afspace in the movie

Tldr I hated it
Too quippy emotion moments didn't resonate thanos was no longer a threat the themes and the movie itself was muddled.
Why are the 3rd movies in the trilogy always the worst

>captain marvel is in it
Ah well i enjoyed the infinity war i think ill be sitting this one out. She has been shilled way too much and seems like a vapid and obnoxious sjw cunt

Have I missed something or Gamora isnt on GotG ship in the end (but Nebula is) ? She got replaced by Thor? WTF?

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The jokes weren't even funny...

they were invaders user

They violated the galactic NAP.

past gamora doesnt know quill or the crew

>seems like a vapid and obnoxious sjw cunt
Because she is.
Thankfully she has like 2 lines and only 15 minutes of screentime.

I feel like maybe they just threw that in there for a cheap laugh since Fortnite is popular. I just got out from the movie theaters and lots of people were laughing during that scene. A safe joke to play for the normies i guess or maybe I'm just overthinking this.

if I was black in the west I'd hate to be assocated with a bunch of oogabooga knob'eads

This man hates black people.

Quill is looking for her right in the ship's computer.
The next movie will probably have him trying to find her.

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the real meaning of feminism is super good for society idk why u trumps supporters hate that . dont you have a mother, aunt or sisters ? wth is wrong with you ?

if u are talking about shoe radical ones they are not part of feminism . they are extremist .

ALSO

STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS IDIOTS .

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1) Bloat. I find it telling that a good chunk of positive reviews on RT use this word in order to defend the film as "would've expected it to be bloated, but it wasn't." That's nonsense. Another positive review that gets closer to the truth states the sum is not as good as the individual parts. Read: This film has its moments but there are simply too many of them. This movie overstayed its welcome past the two hour mark, a mistake not made notably by IW, a film I loved. The Russo Brothers simply put too much movie into this shit, and this is its biggest flaw and biggest con as far as my score goes.

2) Cloying amounts of fanservice. Not much to say about this one... except that this film is literally a 3-hour love letter to the Marvel MCU. This might be a huge pro for you, but if you're less than floored by the franchise as I am, prepare to get tired of the callbacks very quickly.

3) The last and least of the film's detractors is its comic relief value. In a way, the film felt like it made a similar mistake that was made in Us (2019) where any tension or pathos is sort of punctured by the constant attempts to lighten the mood. However, this film is also dreary and dull, and no amount of humor can pierce that ponderousness. What fails about the humor here is how rooted it is in completely inoffensive and bland taste, like the humor has basically been the entire MCU has been (save for rare gems like Guardians.) The fact that it's inoffensive and bland humor doesn't offend in and of itself, but in the context that it's supposed to be lightening a very dreadful mood and instead just makes you roll your eyes and make you wish even harder the film would just get it over with already.

Miscellaneous: It was also terribly by-the-book and predictable and too straightforward. It reminded me of the Breaking Bad series finale, as each thing happened in the film I remarked to myself how I would never have actually believed that the fan theories could be so spot-on.

>Fat Thor got annoying about an hour in and they kept rolling with it
>Captain Marvel is still an unlikable arse
>The Girl Power scene should have never been greenlit

Otherwise I greatly enjoyed it

I liked the joke itself, but using such a fucking fad game for it was kind of stupid.
Using a game that has been around longer like CS or even Battlefield would have been better.

That's not true, he's also an Air Force dude that got a few months of combat medic training. That 100% qualifies him to follow in the footsteps of a roided out giga-soldier who can fall 50 stories, be frozen in ice for 70 years, and engage a humongous god-slayer in hand-to-hand combat
His last words before dying are literally "I probably shouldn't have done that, should I?" Pretty powerful moment for the MCU

>quill is forever cucked
>punched thanos for her and gets this as repayment
its on fucking purpose

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>Disney will never ever do a R rated film about Ronin fucking up spics and nips

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On the plus side, Quill is a single man again.

In the end he did cut the wire. But the metaphor was that he is the wire enabling others.

RDJ contract aside why did Tony have to die with his last words being just "Pepper..." But Cap gets to live out his retirement?!

4/10

I could have sworn torture bro casually killed one of the long haired asgardian guys?

So is the Fortnite of the MCU the same game as IRL? Does that mean they had an special event where you could play as Thanos and murder people with the Infinity Gauntlet? Kind of an insenstive move on the devs' part, to be honest.

I dunno post more Karen.
>tfw remember jacking off to her in that one Dr. Who episode where she was running around an abandoned orphanage in those tight tight jeans and shirt

I cried when he had slight breakdown in front of mum tho. I am sucker for moments like that
>...the future hasn't been kind to you has it
>*slight pause eyes wander*
He acted that scene good even if the writing wanted him to stay funneh fat man.

It's no Citizen Kane idiot

I'm aware that Fortnite exists, but in the theater, when it appeared in the movie, half of the theater was gasping like they had just seen Yoda giving a blowjob to Jon Snow. I was puzzled.
Then I realized: zoomer gamers just recognized something that's relevant to them, so they gushed.

my theater clapped when gamora kicked quill in the nuts

>gamora:What do you mean to do with the stones father?
>Thanos: I'm going to make the universe great again
>catpan Marvel: Sorry incel, its my turn now!

Well at least you and I cringed. I don't play that pedo-hunting-ground shit.

Steve gets the ideal ending but completely screws up the time travel rules. Tony dies and nobody tries to bring him back. Thor is treated as a joke 95% of the time.

yeah that's pretty much what i was getting at.

The kino one was always black skirt and black 60 denier tights.

>putting Thor into the side series so they can safely fuck up the main one and fall back to GOTG if/when people stop watching the main ones
lol

No, the timelines are self-contained so whatever happened in the other timelines doesn't affect the main one.
The "returning the infinity stones" didn't really make sense. By removing them in the first place they already created a timeline where the stones are gone and everyone gets fucked, "returning" them would only create a new timeline where they are back, the other timeline would still be fucked.

None of it adds up because his character in IW made no damn sense. They smooshed together two completely different, diametrically opposed characters.

>thanos is sympathetic. he does evil which he doesnt enjoy in order to save everyone. he thinks its necessary evil.

>thanos is an arrogant, god-like being with absolutely zero care for others and an enjoyment for torture and intimidation sometimes.

then there's even a kind of 3rd thanos with a religious worship of balance. all of these different thanoses they tried to smash into one have completely different, opposed motivations for doing what they're doing. i like the idea of a sympathetic machiavellian thanos, but then you cannot have him be arrogant ever.. you cannot show him doing anything other than hating the torture he MUST give and upset over the murders he MUST commit.

imo, they should have had him in love with death. make that the sympathetic angle. make it ambiguous whether or not death is actually real or a way for his mind to cope with loss and loneliness. hes the MAD TITAN.

Thor ends up doing exactly what his mother told him.
Dunno what you’re getting at.

>all the girls unite and say have sex

So Cap spent his life during his "pit stop" to drop the stones off. I get this, but I have questions. When Modern Cap is spending his life with Peggy, where is the original cap during that timeline? Is he frozen in cryosleep? I assume Cap decides to return to his timeline once he gets old and Peggy passes away. So does that mean the original cap never meets Peggy after he thaws?

Actually Hulk didn't die after he snapped it. He may have taken a hit but he was still alive. Then you have Captain Mary Sue who can do anything. So there really is no excuse for Tony being dead.

Cap made out with his niece.

To follow the comics? Falcon becomes Captain America as well you uncultured illiterate faggot

I am not saying that the main one is affected. I am saying that the alternative timeline has to be identical to the main timeline in order for Steve Rogers to show up. The one they saw in the main timeline was a Steve Rogers from an alternative timeline identical to theirs that was always in their world. However that doesn't make sense since that version of Steve Rogers would have existed in a time-line where Thanos doesn't exist after 2014 since the only reason he would have time-traveled in the first place would have been the existence of Thanos during the events of Infinity War.

The explanation would be they don't trust captain marvel and she doesn't have enough knowledge of the situation to make things right. And she didn't have a gauntlet built into her suit like tony.

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You're damn right, crossbone for captain america

I'm pretty sure he is meant to be one of those guys who thinks he is doing a good thing (and maybe he is) but is a massive arrogant cunt about it.
Thanos is similar to Tony in that regard, he has "good" intentions but thinks he knows better than everyone else and that they are all retarded children who should shut up, let him help him and thank him for it.
This movie just make him tame as fuck. He barely showed emotion compared to IW and that "I'll nuke this planet for the sake of it" turned him into a generic evil cunt for no reason.
It's kind of weird how IW spent so much time developing him and making people give a shit about him and then in this movie he is just kinda there and his role is just being the final boss.

Brie and Tessa are the ones who push this shit, and may have even been the, ahem, "brains" behind that scene, given Tessa pitched an all-female Avengers idea to Feige at the 10th Anniversary luncheon, which took place while Endgame was filming.

I would not be surprised if Olsen and Lilly hate that scene, they have both expressed an aversion to the "stronk women" mentailty. Both regard their characters relationships with Vision and Scott, respectively, as important, despite the dismissal of romantic relationships by alot of "woke" critics.

The timelines they stole the stones from didn't get fucked because 2014 thanos leaped into the 2019 timeline. So there would be no purple nigga trying to grab the stones in the 2014 timeline.

I wonder if Engdame Thanos was written that way because of all the "Thanos did nothing wrong memes". They were probably worried about angry parents accusing them of promoting eugenics or something.

I really can't imagine sitting through all that shit.

The reason they'll push is
>Thanos lacks the 5 years of fights, and the fight on Titan that made him respect humans. Without those he's just the cruel Titan he always was
Lol

Yeah but Bruce and the Ancient One weren't talking about that. The Ancient One said they would need the stones to deal with whatever threat showed up in the future and that the timeline would be fucked without them and Bruce promised to bring them back.
The problem is that bringing them back would only create a different timeline. The timeline where Bruce got the infinity stone would still be fucked even with no Thanos.

Peggy's husband was Cap all along. He lived a life of quiet anonymity.

Imagine just raping one of those NERD girls and she can't resist after sitting so long and getting pseudo bed sores.

She has it in the comics....Christ do none of you read the source materiel at least? Like shit.

I mean I'm all for different adpatations from books and movies. Opened to changes etc but if they use something from a book or in this case a comic I'd be fine with.

People complaining about Bucky not getting the shield when Falcon got it as well in the comics is fine with me. Winter Soldier is a literal nut job commie.

Falcon and Captain America have been friends in the comics for years.

Tony's death certainly felt tacked on. Using the gauntlet to kill half of ALL LIFE is hard. Using the snap to kill Thanos's army kills mortals? He didn't even need to "snap" I guess they emphasis the power stone took 4 people, so using 6....It just felt meta, like RDJ is done, so.... kill him.

Bringing the stones back didn't create a different timeline. Bruce simply borrowed the stone and then brought it back to them. Whatever threat she was talking about could be anything since without the stones there is less balance in the universe. Their timelines simply existed without the stones for a set period.

Fucking gold user

The Captain America and Falcon of the MCU are pretty different and have a way less deep relationship than the ones in the comics so it makes sense people don't think Falcon deserves to be the new Captain America.
And Bucky is no longer under mental control and he was never a nut job commie, just the brainwashed slave of some nazis.

So if they borrowed the stones and brought them back, wouldn't the main modern timeline exist without the infinity jewels? Isn't that bad for the universe if there is no stones?

Yet they still had the gauntlet and stones in the end after Tony died and no one, specifically Captain Mary Sue, had the idea to snap Tony back to life?

>the comics did it

the comics did all this shit in the last decade, and lets not act like it was a good idea when the comics did it. Just because the comics do it doesn't mean it's good. The source material is constantly cranking and never stops. They don't have time to make good choices, they just want to sell issues. Writers constantly get forced to leave over conflicts.

Agreed. Like I thought Rey was a female lead way too pandered and Mary-Sued. But she’s on a near complete different level.

But wouldn't that change the future of that timeline?

he didn't age while snapped

Rey is just a poorly-written and poorly-acted protagonist the biggest media corporation on Earth is demanding you recognize as equal to, well, Luke.

> Tony sacrificed himself
> Cap found a way out

> Tony became the selfless hero.
> Cap became the selfish egotist.

Pottery.

"Un-snapping" only affects the results of a Snappening. Gamora, Viz, Black Widow, and Iron Man cannot be brought back because they died from causes other than Vanishing

It's in their destiny/timeline to let the time traveling Avengers have the stones for a bit so they could get Thanos to timehop over to he could die again. So no it doesn't change anything because everything that happened was supposed to happen.

I wish I could cope with Tony's death just as well with anger like this. But I am not at that stage yet. I'm still at Grieve x3000.

Thonos without the stones is stronger than thonos with the stones.

Oh, the subtlety of this is very spot-on. Mistakable for a real normie post, even. 10/10... can't even tell the true difference.

The infinity stones are supposed to be able to do nearly anything, not just kill people, and one of them focuses on fucking up with time while another one has something to do with the soul.
I doubt bringing back the dead is beyond their power.

Bare in mind 2014 Thanos doesn't get to adjust to the stones in the way 2018 Thanos did, so he's not as smart.

Apparently his double sword is stronger than the infinity gauntlet.

>10/10
Nah

>I doubt bringing back the dead is beyond their power

But it is... otherwise why would the Soul Stone "exact its price?" What would be the point if Thanos could just bring Gamora back? And you know for certes he would've. The movie early on dispels the idea that time-travel can bring back the dead... you can only "fetch" older versions like Quill is attempting to do with old Gamora.

They are fully capable of bringing back the dead but they don't because
>lolabuseofpowergoodguyreasons

Didn't the wakandans use one of the stones to talk to their ancestors?

Thanos wouldn't bring Gamorra back. Resurrecting the death goes against his belief that the universe is overpopulated and that genocide must be random and unprejudiced.
And aren't the stones meant to be some reality-bending shit? Resurrection isn't even that much of a deal, if they can't even do that then their reputation is unearned, they are just a glorified magical nuke and little else.

Do they? I don't remember anyone even suggesting it or explaining why they won't do it.

So did the Hulk snap bring only the people who got dusted back or everyone who died because of Thanos?
Like, imagine you were on an airplane and the pilot got dusted and you fell to your death. Would you be brought back or would you be fucked and remain dead?

I think the answer is baked-in to the rules of the Soul Stone. I don't know about the comics or the stones nor do I even really give a fuck to look up the rules, but it simply wouldn't make sense that the Soul Stone would have such a "price" if it didn't even matter. Both Avengers 3 and 4 made it clear that any deaths outside the Snappening are to be considered final and cloyingly bathetically "tragic."

Yea, Hulk or Danvers or anyone just.... trying to bring Tony back. I can't imagine that is the same was half of all life and even needs a Thanos level user. We literally watch Vision die and get killed again in IW. Poor Vision too, holy shit, he's just totally gone.

If you weren't snapped you won't be brought back. So if you died on the plane because the pilot got snapped but you weren't dusting away you're fucked.

What's funny is that people on planes that DID get snapped are going to respawn in the air and fall to their death

>Spider-man is still in high school
What the fuck do you expect? If half of the whole population didn't exist for five years then came back--not aged at all, then of course they would still go back to school how they were?

Maybe only those sacrificed can't come back?
Hulk even mentions that he tried to use the gauntlet to bring back Natasha (I don't know when he tried to do this since he got nuked and lost it like right after undoing the snap) but he couldn't do it.

If that were true than how does the gauntlet have any power at all? It would negate the idea of taking all those lives in the first place. The gauntlet is not a cause and affect item. The stones were fashioned with the birth of the universe, therefore it is tied into everything in said universe. That's why together, the stones and the gauntlet wield the ultimate power. You make a wish and it comes true.

Yea, Hulk says he tried to and did think of Nat when he did it. Then again... wouldn't she be alive on voromir in 2014? Someone should go check....

We never even fully know what the soul stone does, let alone having 6 stones. If erasing and unerasing is possible, then bringing back anyone else should have been possible, outside of the souls bound to the soul stone.

I assume the stones would bring people back somewhere where they won't just fall to their deaths, it's not like they are some genie shit that takes your wish literally just to fuck with you.

If the infinity stones can't bring someone back unless they were directly killed by them, then all Thanos had to do was use them to kill people indirectly, like teleporting a huge rock inside the chest of 50% of every living being in the universe or some shit like that.

LAUNCH AN AIRSTRIKE

JUST DO IT

What happened to past version Gamora?
She was with normal timeline Nebula after killing early version Nebula and I dont remember if that was after or before meeting Starlord in person.
Tony's snap dusted the bad guys. She should'nt have been dusted.
She wasnt with the GOTG crew at the funeral.
And Starlord was already searching for her on the ship.

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The Gauntlet and the stones together are supposed to wield the ultimate power. Bringing back one soul or 1/2 the universe doesn't matter, the Gauntlet would have done it.

This is just bad storytelling and huge plot hole.

This movie is the capstone on a huge oilwell of shit that has been built up in the film industry over the past 20 years and they are saying with this one "This was our proof of concept. This was Wave 1. Give us another 20 mediocre years and we will sell a trillion movie tickets, most assuredly. This is what mediocre people want."

Anyone?

> He will be rebooted by Shuri as emotionless White Vision (who we will see for one episode at most; emotionless is not interesting).

> Chthon will "bless" him with a new soul, which will not be pure as his mind stone essence was. This new Vision will be less noble than his predecessor, but may ultimately still be good due to original Vision's memories influencing him.

She didn't have feelings for Quill and crew so she probably fled. They're gonna find her in GOTG3

She met with Starlord after old Nebula died. She wasn't at the funeral for obvious reasons, why would she?

She'll be a big plot in GOTG3.

I think I read somewhere she was killed by future Gamora or was it vice versa. Then kicked Quill in the nuts.

So what the fuck happened to Thanos' floating throne room? He was sitting on it in the first GotG movie but in this one (which takes place in the same timeframe) he is only shown in the one inside his ship.

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I'm sure Guardians 3 will focus on finding her, but the problem is that we're back to square 1 with her. All the character development she has had in both guardians movies and Infinity War is gone since that version of Gamora is dead.

The Gamora running around now is one that existed before the Guardians were a team

>She wasn't at the funeral for obvious reasons, why would she?
Because Nebula was there, and she wasn't on the ship later as well. Thanos' ships were all destroyed/snapped.

Also, what happened to that hooded guy Ronan kills? He is seemingly replaced by Ebony Maw in this movie even though he should still be alive.

His friends said it looked too faggy so he redecorated.

How the fuck was Tony able to deliberately dust Thanos and his army?
Wasn't the snap supposed to be an act of random equalization across the whole universe?

The Infinity Gaunlet is supposed to let you do anything.
Thanos wanted to randomly genocide 50% of the universe so it did that.
Tony wanted to genocide Thanos and his minions so it did that.

You can do anything with the gauntlet. Thanos used it as a tool to enforce his autistic utopia of halving the universe. Tony used it to kill the bad guys.

why is peters fat friend still in highschool after 5 years? like maybe he failed a couple years but i doubt it since hes supposed to be smart

He probably got dusted too.

I think Gunn may actually show Quill having to face the fact that the "new" Gamora is not his Gamora; he lost his mother, then both his father's, now he must come to terms with the fact New Gamora cannot replace the Gamora he loved. They are different people.

didnt they show that he didnt get dusted? i swear at the end of infinity war we saw him sitting alone at school after the snap for a couple seconds

Peter Quill is going to fall into a crippling depression. His mom died in front of him. He got betrayed by his dad and had to kill him. He lost his girlfriend to Thanos. Then he was the reason they fucked up in stopping thanos from getting the gauntlet. Then he gets dusted. He comes back and finds his girlfriend is alive, but she has no recollection of him so she doesn't love him.

This the chitauri space area, where they hang out. He was on his ship to tell Gamora and Nebula to go help Ronan. Then he was gonna go chill out in chitauri space.

You're imagining things

>You can do anything with the gauntlet.
Then why didn't Thanos make infinite resources?

That forced therapy scene with Cap just casually being okay with the gay guy talking about his first gay date.

not as bad as cap going back in time and living out his full life despite all the carefully established rules of time travel, though i guess the time travel was bullshit from the beginning

It probably goes against his beliefs. He would probably consider it cheating. Same reason why he most likely could have resurrected his daughter once he had the power of all 6 stones. He also deep down likes killing people because the man was straight up performing genocide on planets before he had the stones.