3 hours of pure kino

My sociology professor in college.

I do, but don't forget that macro economics are 50% math and logic but the other 50% is based on the human side that any leftist completely distorts to make their point valid

seething

that's the thing, that's why leftist moved to the social issues to make their point, because at the end of the day working people don't give a fuck about this shit, so they need to get those young college students to vote for them

Where are the Marxist, Peterson?

>Actual Marxists get marginalized and aren't in any major channel talking about their politics ever
>But this tranny hates cis people so she's a Marxist
Your brain on Jordan Peterson

Video: Jordan Peterson vs. Slavoj Zizek
Audio: Kermit vs. Dracula

They lurk around university campuses like vampires ready to turn unsuspecting new students to their nefarious ways

Onions marxista por dinero boss man

I'd take Peterson's basic bitch interpretation of marxism or marxists' endless self-victimization any day. You're not going to topple the rich with smug condescension.

Me

>shithole labor jobs
>no marxists
Damn, if only there was some kind of ideology to alleviate the shitholness of shithole labor jobs...if only

>sent from my Iphone

Capitalism

No, he's got a point. You gotta wonder why any self-proclaimed Marxist is like "I fight for the blue collar, working class, and that's why I hate those racist backwards fucking retards and want them all dead"

Are we talking about Marxists or SJW trannies? Because the two get conflated a lot but they're actually pretty different.

I've never met a Marxist but I've met a ton of "that's totally not the kind of communism I subscribe to"

You mean capitalism?

>commies flock to zizek
>Zizek is only a Marxist in it's analytical sense
>Zizek openly criticizes modern leftists and tankies

?????
Tbh the debate just made me like zizek as well as Jordan, zizek had very interesting things to say such as happiness never being an end goal and how your inner voice is just you lying to yourself

There's like ten Marxists that aren't SJW trannies, the tankies got muscled out of their own movement - ironically, as if they were Star Wars or comic book fans

Highlight:
youtube.com/watch?v=oDOSOQLLO-U

Kill yourselves.

Embarrassing

Built by maoists
>designed in california tho

the most informative piece of information on socialists ive ever read was mein kampf's chapter of the author (whoever that was) living in vienna

There's like 10 Marxists, period. The only reason the term "Marxist" gets used so heavily by either side is because it sure sounds like a nice boogeyman from the McCarthy era.

It's funny that when Marxism first came out it was a reaction to the actual marginalization of people in shithole labor jobs amidst a wild west of industrialization, and now it's main demographic are upper middle class millennials who just found out that retail work sucks.

It sounds like you're merging different groups together.
It's woven into Marxism that things like racism and sexism emerge from differences in class and are exploited by capitalists. There's no ideological reason for them to give a shit about racism, when they believe that removing classes will largely do away with that stuff too.

I hate Marxist teens, but why can't some of you accept that the current capitalist system has faults? You don't have to be Marxist to see that.

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kek

Anyone taking sides in that "debate" is a brainlet. Both of them had interesting stuff to say.

is there a video of this debate with non potato audio quality?

>how your inner voice is just you lying to yourself
nah, my inner voice is constantly dropping redpills

they usually happen in the shower or just as i've finished masturbating

based and roompilled

Ah yes china is not capitalist at all and the US is a shining example of Marxism and not capitalism.

Same thing because you never see them correct each other out in the wild.

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>maoists
Mao's ass backwards, incredibly destructive system was totally gutted by Deng - and this is the singular reason China is a superpower today.

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wash your penis

I take it you've never met an economist then

it doesn't matter what kind of government you live in, you'll still be a chinese slave making products for rich westerners

Nobody denies this cuck. Its still the best by far.

>libcuck memes
You are implying conservatives grow up. That is why they appreciate peterson. Manbaby leftists cant even keep their rooms clean

Oh, I do recognize it. Just don't word your explanations in a way that is gay as fuck and I won't call you an incel.

I always suspected there's some kind of false flag/sabotage shit involved.

Imagine telling some flyover normie "I support higher wages, stronger safety and environmental regulations, universal healthcare and a strong community safety net" and then just when he starts perking up you go "ALSO KILL WHITEY AND CUT YOUR SON'S DICK OFF YOU STUPID FUCKING CHRISTFAG"

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The only interesting thing Peterson had to say was the set up for the Zizek punchlines clowning him

Look who's talking.
Social Democracy is best.

peterson is a hack and bender

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Deng's economic reforms were propelled forward by Mao's obsession with building up heavy industry though. China wouldn't have done anywhere near as well without this solid foundation for Deng to work off of.

I can see why you would think that if youre a zizek fanboy

Even Keynes knew this is bullshit

The alarming number of Millennial Marxists, Leninists and Communists are all just a by product of student loan debt.

Fuck off 13 year old

>Peterson calls Zizek attractive and is awestruck
>Zizek calls Peterson an idiot in his face
Debate was worth it just for that.

You know most of it is maths right? Most of the time they don't even touch shit like the meme austrian school.

Shhh you seem to be operating under the belief that trump supporters are smart enough to even bother reading Deng before praising him

Go away, ape.

fucking rekt

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Also they are taught social marxism in schools.
>muh opressed minorities
>muh evil bourgeois i mean white ppl

Marxists lost that war and even back when Marx and Engels were still alive (at least Engels) the first signs of this were already visible. Today it's nothing but a by product or a disease resulting from the fact that humanity, although progressed at an incredibly rapid pace, it still wasn't enough for some people. Or maybe they just took progress for granted.

>L-look w-who's talking!
Worded like a true gay, you incel.

>be american
>buy house
>property tax is 20% your yearly salary
>sell house
>live in trailer

Try talking without buzzwords.

Link with timestamp, please.

i actually crossed paths with real "marxists" not too long ago and they generally despise SJWs and identity politics. i know, i was surprised too.

>conservatives grow up
>LOL REKT XD LAUGHINGNIGGERLADY.JPG

>Getting this BTFO by a "libcuck meme"
Fuck off, incel.

>social marxism
Meme buzzword that doesn't mean anything. Just call it "Social justice" or "Shallow moralization". It has nothing to do with Marxism.

The thing is Deng even went on record when his communist credentials were questioned and point by point addressed them. Now ancap mutts suck his dick.

Have you? Any economist worth his salt knows that Marxism always fails due to the creation of artificial price values and subsequent resource misallocation.

Ah yes, the USA is a shining example of Marxism. You are truly enlightened.

Just kidding you stupid fucking retard.

>he went nuclear

>N-no only talk the way I do!
Nah. Have sex.

economic factors are far better ideological motivators than education. in fact, people generally don't give a shit about education unless they recognize the economic and social utility of it.

yea, hilarious that they'll teach you about marxism for the right price.

Funny, zizek didnt have a single thing interesting to say. Just a lot of meaningless theory drivel. Peterson's mistake was attempting to argue practicality with the sniffer.
Shouldnt have expected anything less from "Marxist in label unless you push me" zizek, but i still watched the whole thing waiting.
Chomsky is right about that hack.

youtube.com/watch?v=AVBOtxCfan0

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>he can't

I know an old professor who was like that. Hated feminism. I wonder which kind of commies would be more likely to start shooting people in the back of the head?

Well yeah I wouldn't expect a demand-side economics fag to understand.

>Social justice
Nope. Not descriptive. It is linguistic propaganda.
>Shallow moralization
Better, but not descriptive enough.

Social Marxism is the best label for it. Sorry marxist faggots, your ideology is shit and is exposed with sjws lmfao.

HOLY BASED

>Marxism
It's main adherents are neoliberalist and neocons

>people who couldn't afford college are advocating for a system that will make it possible

>how dare you criticize my shitty redditor memes
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I get the sense that putting marxism in the name is really just an attempt at fearmongering because muh cold war muh remember the red menace

V. Good post

>I'm just gonna unite two completely different things that I dislike together and use a general term that is ill-defined for either of them
How is this any different from an SJW calling a Trump supporter a fascist even though we're still well within the bounds of a democracy?

Well yea, their ideology is being fucking swamped by SJWs at every level.

These people refuse to acknowledge that class and material conditions are overwhelmingly more important than race and gender.
They support capitalism in its fullest, because they now know how to exploit it.
Many of them, individually, come across as opportunistic fucks that spout ideology with the sole goal of advancing their own position in society without doing anything meaningful.

Peterson's mistake was being visibly unprepared. You may say that Zizek was bad, but you can't tell me with a straight face that Peterson did any better.

We need to stop subsidizing degrees without any ROI.

>Are we talking about Marxists or SJW trannies?
There are no 'Marxists' that matter. Even Zizek wasn't defending Marx in that debate.

That's exactly what it is. Peterson uses the term "Marxism" to both make it scarier to boomers and also make him sound more literate to young kids who have no fucking clue what Marxism actually means. It's really sad both in how stupid it is and in how effective it ends up being regardless.

Ah yes, all the neocon sjws and neolibs who definitely believe in it and arent just using it to get minority votes

Fuck off retard. Its social marxism, your ideology is shit

Well then you're stupid. The label fits perfectly. Not even actual marxists can decide on whether something is marxism or not, so you should shut up and fuck off. You dont pass.

In this shitty postmodern world, all of the Soviet stuff really did seem to ooze with patriarchal, toxic masculinity.

By modern Antifa standards I think WWII was the Nazis versus the Nazis versus the Nazis.

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like the rest of the corporate shills he doesn't actually care about any of the shit he's slinging.

For some of us these bastards were all too real. Today with the whole world being connected it'd be good for people from other countries to learn from that history but it looks like quite a lot of them wants to try just to be sure.

Peterson should have at least seen some docus about Zizek, or anything. He prepared for an orthodox Marxist, which Zizek is not one of

>They support capitalism in its fullest, because they now know how to exploit it.
Attention: This sentence does not apply to a single Marxist. This is an actual definition that directly clashes with Marxism. I cannot over-state this.

I had a faggot teacher for a sociology elective, he despised PC shit and thought all his colleagues were retards who projected their bullshit into the results of whatever study they were doing.

Social Marxism is a very applicable label. It is very different. Apparently you are too stupid tocsee the connection. Maybe stop posting and educate yourself, mkay sweetie?

>By modern Antifa standards I think WWII was the Nazis versus the Nazis versus the Nazis.
This is the sad truth. There is no society older than 1960 that you can comfortably want to emulate as a white person in the west anymore without being seen as pure evil.

>Social Marxism is a very applicable label
It isn't, though. It's just used because it makes it sound scarier. There are people in this thread saying that Marxists fully support capitalism because they can exploit it. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT MARXISM, YOU IDIOT?

This it totally incorrect. It is simlly a very accurate label. Facts dont care about your feelings

Yeah, OK, but people like that are losing and progressive SJWs are winning. So 'muh real Marxism' doesn't end up mattering at all in the end.

Was I unclear? I was talking about SJWs and feminists, or the average liberal.

These people might lament excessive corporatism, but they absolutely revel in the fact that a trumped up outburst on twitter can seriously effect hiring policies in their favor.

Good goy. Vote for bernie, he will save you from multinational megacorp conglomerates hehehe

What's the appeal of Jordan Peterson? If it's "get your shit together" hit only, I'd rather have the cute nip woman telling me to get my shit together.

>It's just used because it makes it sound scarier
Nope. It is simply an accurate label. Even the jews who invented it were devout marxists.

>and progressive SJWs are winning
Winning at what? Being the best corporate goyim slave? Marxism is dead regardless of them.

if there's one thing I learned studying economics its that people are unpredictable and you might as well read tea leaves

I have never met an astronaut but I can safely say they exist

Jordan Peterson is a last hurrah of white liberals from the 90s who think we can debate our way out of the clownworld hell the west is becoming.

>Nazis versus the Nazis versus the Nazis
What the fuck?

Just someone with common sense in the clown world. He gets old fast or maybe you've already got your shit together or maybe youre a bulldike sjw who takes offense to his Kermit voice

I actually thought I was on /his/

t NEET

>Winning at what? Being the best corporate goyim slave?
It actually really, really, matters who multi-billion dollar corporations that drive the economy end up appealing to culturally when their entire goal is disempowering and deplatforming you.

Marxism is anything I don't like

That the pink haired dilators are BTFOing the actual workers in every Worker's Party

For fuck's sake even the hammer and the sickle themselves represent a farmer and a blacksmith, not a fucking blogger and a HR representative

>"Marxist" gets used so heavily by either side is because it sure sounds like a nice boogeyman from the McCarthy era.
Oh? Almost like "McCarthy"

>a last hurrah of white liberals from the 90s
When Clinton shifted the Dems rightward? Good riddance.

But then why the fuck are you calling them Marxists to begin with?
As you said, Marxists are heavily marginalized and largely invisible and irrelevant to current society.

he's literally a koch-supported cult leader for disaffected virgins that trains them to embrace their overlord and keep themselves comfortable while spiraling out into internet addiction.

He's a degenerate pervert shill and he doesn't give a sloppy wet fuck about "white liberals." He just wants their money.

Reminder

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Oh shit Exxon guy is here

>Apparently you are too stupid tocsee the connection
Could you illuminate this apparently obvious connection? Because it sounds like they deviated heavily from the bulk of Marxists and started interspersing more and more ideologies into their own. I'm not well versed on these people (because, frankly, they're irrelevant), but even a simple glance shows how all over the place they were, ideologically speaking.

No, not really.

This. maybe if he talks about personal responsibility for whites (the people with the LEAST in-group preferences) then surely SURELY 85 IQ immigrant flood will become True Classical Liberals TM and form a functioning civilization for the first time in history. Odd, because HE was the one that taught me about race and IQ

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Traditional marxists maybe, not social marxists who are sjws.

>When Clinton shifted the Dems rightward? Good riddance.
Aren't you fags right wing? What's wrong with that?

Schizo user is here, time to boot.

I'm not right-wing.

>muh koch brothers
Based retarded millenial soccer mom

I don't care if he is or isn't genuine. I care about the fate of my children, who will be lambs to the slaughter.

Covington is just a taste of what SJWs have in store for them, you know that, right? Next time, there won't be an hour of exonerating footage and progressives will have even more cultural power to destroy their lives.

Then youre a cucked faggot who deserves to be raped by niggers

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>Traditional marxists maybe
Yes, ""Traditional marxists" as in "Marxists"

>not social marxists who are sjws
Who are not Marxists

what is this supposed to prove? that jews are the most intelligent people?

>he thinks flying a few homo flags in their logos means anything
The destruction of unions and importing millions of subhumans are way worse than a few SJW corporate slaves beating a corpse with a stick.

>if you hate society why do you live in it? checkmate atheists ;^)

you can make that chart about any intellectual ideology besides retarded WE WUZ ARYANZ ones. I wonder what that says about Jewish intellectualism...

No, you're just a mentally ill incel.