FUCK YOU. THAT'S WHY!

>FUCK YOU. THAT'S WHY!
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Still better than Covenant

Ehhhhhh, Idk, they were both pretty bad and finally settled the "which Scott brother should have died" argument

If I woke up from a decades long slumber by some geriatric fuck and his robot asking to make them immortal I'd rip his head off too.

fuck, I forgot about that movie. I remember when everyone was really looking forward to it, because it seemed like Ridley Scott was unfucking himself and he was going to finally make another PROPER alien movie. Instead we get the most low-quality trash I've ever seen. Somehow even worse than Prometheus.

Dude is such a fucking hack. Hasn't made a good movie since Gladiator.

At the least Prom. was ABOUT something (or trying to be at least)

Covenant was just Ridley sperging and throwing ideas around at the pitch

It's true. Prometheus was blue balls the movie but Covenant was fanfic tier that shrunk the franchise to being about a half dozen archetypes.

Covenant's main problem was that it was trying to be a sequel to Prometheus while also being a typical Alien movie. So what we got felt like the half-baked drafts of two separate movies stitched together with no rhyme or reason.

>when you realize this shit got made instead of Blomkamp's A5

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I swear it has to be the most frustrating franchise there is. Every single thing feels so godamn forced and off the mark.

this movie would be totally redeemed in my eyes if the engineer blasted someone with an uppercut and their head came flying off

the main character of covenant was so difficult to sympathise/like aswell. like mopy from beginning til end

That Aliens fan movie is the biggest dodged bullet in the history of movies.
I don't mind that he would have erased A3 from the official canon, but trying to continue directly from where Aliens ended would not have worked.

Prometheus caters to the intellectual mind, the person capable of abstract rational thought.

Covenant is "Le dUmB SCaRy aLiEns OH NO!" Im not memeing, its the stupidest film ive seen in the past ten years.

>FUCK YOU. THAT'S WHY!
t. Ridley Scott, in relation to the rights to Alien franchise

Covenant tries by being a horror movie meme but it ends up being a B horror with high budget movie where every character acts like a moron.

The extended scene is subbed. David tells him the old guy wants to live forever, and ayylmao says why would you want to live forever and kills them all

>but its not logical the way they act in a horror movie, its as retarded as the bible! *eats some doritos* crunch, crunch, this is a plothole *puts on his fedora* the plot this and that

Fuck off nigger, focusing too much on plot is the definition of a pleb nigger. A good movie has little to do with a good plot. And both covenant and prometheus are good movies. Its like all those youtube critics and bloggers who can only talk about the story but never mention any actual film aspect.

I thought prometheus is okay. I think movie deserves too much hate ruining the “lore” of alien verse or more accurately the lack of it. The movie imo has great theme of human relationship with the image of “their creator and explore human’s nature inclination to seek their creator. The sci fi elements are consistent and the humans are at least believable.
Covenant has too many retarded moments that seem straight out of a B horror movie or even worthy of a scary movie parody scene.
> that whole crew seemingly having no infection control protocol
> the whole sequence of the chick butchering her attempt of killing a baby alien and ends with her blowing up the ship
> the cap follows david and does what he said for no fucking reason just to be trapped with the face hugger egg
> david swticheroo that can be seen miles away

Fpbp

Daily reminder

Alien > Aliens > Alien Resurrection = Prometheus > Alien 3 > Alien Covenenant

>Ridley ruins the Space Jockey in Prometheus making it a white blad dude and removing the biomechanical beauty of HR Giger
>Ridley then proceeds to ruin the alien in Covenant making David the creator of the creature and ruining the Space Jockey even more by making them live in a roman style city with no tits in sight

>muh space jockey

you faggots didnt even care about this until prometheus came out

>> that whole crew seemingly having no infection control protocol

easily the most reddit and pleb filter opinion. THIS is your main point of criticism that ruins the film? kek

It’s not the sole main point but one of it.
One of the major characteristic of sci fi theme and attention details to this stuff. A lot of it matters to the plot such as how the fuck did david sneak sole foreign biological weapon into the ship with advanced AI who screens for these kind of shit without triggering an alarm at the end. The opening sequence of covenant was great but it went all downhill from there.
It’s not like covenant has anything else. It has no good and consistent theme, no great character, no good sequence, no nothing.

both were bad, Prometheus was just more pretentious

It's fine to not have a good plot or one that's just bland. But it's bad, unjustifiable and inexcusable to have a shitty and completely retarded plot and characters especially when the movie tries to take itself seriously on multiple occasions.

Reminder that the white Chads n the Prologue are as far removed from the biomechanical Chads at the end of the movie as cavemen are from modern humans. The prologue aays were the Engineers. The Space Jockey near the end is something else entirely.

This

Its fucking pathetic watching you reddit niggers try to “deconstruct” a film with stupid semantics

>I like when it's mysterious, like the Space Jockey used to be. You have to think for yourself and use your imagination
>Why wasn't this explained? What is the black goo? Tell me!
Make up your fucking minds you STUPID children.

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lmao

David and Walter had a couple of great scenes together. In fact, that should've been the movie. Androids exploring philosophy.

Can anyone eli5 me on this. I watched Prometheus and from what I understood the android and the woman who birthed a white octopus went to the big white guy's planet because they knew that the big guys were gonna genocide humanity right? What's wrong?

I was so stoned when I watched Covenant I legitimately thought Franco's character was some older Asian woman in the pod
I spent most of that movie thinking the main shorthaired duke character was a lesbian, and dating a middle aged Asian woman who died in a fire.

>every character acts like a moron
And it was already the case in Prometheus.
>dude why not taking off our helmets
>dude why not touching that black slime
>dude that's a cute alien snake, why not befriend it
And so on. Even in the worst horror movies they're not that stupid.

I’m not sure what helmet part was about on prometheus. It’ve been a while since I watch it?
Black slime and snake were understandable as the scientists simply was too adventurous since they had protective suit on and underestimate the risk of the black slime and the snake. Black slime could have been just mistaken for mud instead of some super organic bioweapon. The snake was unnaturally strong for its size. The snake-like feature also mislead the scientist as the suit might have been impervious to any earth snake that size but not super ayylmao snek.

>I’m not sure what helmet part was about on prometheus.
When they started to visit the alien city they immediately decided to take off their helmets because "the air is breathable, man"... Apparently they didn't watch War of the Worlds.
And what kind of scientist would TOUCH an unknown matter on an unknown planet ffs ? How in the fuck is that a scientifical approach ?
And no, when you meet an extraterrestrial form of life that looks like a motherfucking snake your first reflex wouldn't be to come close to it, no way.

Did you watch the extended edition? Even that specific scene with the engineer, it's much more fleshed out and they have a conversation with it and you have a lot more to go on. The engineer doesn't act like some fucking mindless raging monster the instant it wakes up.

But it was all cut for the theatrical release by that piece of shit Damon Lindelof. In the commentary one of the guys is literally like "Oh yes this scene was much longer and more detailed, but Damon felt like it was too clear and gave the audience too much understanding, so we decided to cut it all."

>everyone was really looking forward to it... another PROPER alien movie

Complete fucking opposite, I wanted another Prometheus movie not more alien trash. Wanted a sequel, not just another xenomorph saga entry.

>it was too clear and gave the audience too much understanding, so we decided to cut it all.
Good job indeed.

Prometheus is a top tier pleb filter

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THE ENGINEER WAS FINE UNTIL WEYLAND ASKED HIM FOR IMMORTALITY.

Scientists take retarded risk to be the “first” to do anything. There was a real life scientist who inject bacteria into their own body to prove specific bacteria causes a specific disease.
If they are scared of everything, they wouldn’t sign up to explore planets in space. Also, this was before shit hit the fan so they was not on guard at all. As I said, they had protective suit on so they didn’t expect such a creature that size can do such a great amount of damage. They were too eager to be the first to make physical contact with a creature on a brand new planet

>this was before shit hit the fan so they was not on guard at all.
They were in an alien city on an uncharted planet and they already found corpses here and there, but I guess it's ok to feel totally relax.

>they had protective suit
Good idea to take off the helmets then lmao.

did they get Giger to do the design on that suit?

Prometheus killed the Alien franchise and Covenant buried the corpse.

He was already dead no ?

They don’t KNOW anything. They set a course for what the fuck ever because the robot was crazy and the woman was traumatized and at the mercy of the robot to operate the ship.

The issue with the movie is that the central point is that exploration doesn’t give you the answers you wanted or expected, and you’re just going to raise more questions in the process. The characters think they’re going to go meet some creator race, and we think we’re going to get answers about where the alien came from. Neither really happened.

Well, that and the crew was manned by idiots from a company run by an idiot. Did they have a first contact protocol set up? Were they prepared to interact with alien life? Nope. Old man idiot immediately tried to demand eternal life from some guy who was the sole survivor of some catastrophe.

It boggles my mind how much of a hack Ridley Scott has become. He went from making genuinely good films to nothing but trash

>you faggots didnt even care about this until prometheus came out

Ok so did you just get into the Alien franchise with fucking Prometheus or what? Because the space jockey was HUGELY mysterious and a very large topic of conjecture ever since Alien came out.

Just because you liked prometheus doesn't mean The Engineers were a satisfying reveal.

I'm just going to say that Prometheus had a lot of potential

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You realize that the answers we were given in Prometheus only resulted in more questions so by that logic Prometheus did much better.

I always assumed he was assblasted that his race couldn't survive on the planet they engineered, so he was pissed to be woken up by the creatures that took said planet over.

They weren't really questions so much as "that's fucking retarded. How is that even possible?" Kind of like the same way you'd question a superhero having laser eyes.

Fuck off aliens resurrection was diarrhoea

Alien =/= Aliens > Alien3 > Covenant > Resurrection > Prometheus

Still better than capeshit

He did a bunch of designs when the film was still an alien prequel

>Dude is such a fucking hack. Hasn't made a good movie since Gladiator.
True. His last few movies had so much potential but he's a certified hack now.

>Complete fucking opposite, I wanted another Prometheus movie not more alien trash. Wanted a sequel, not just another xenomorph saga entry.
This.

Not exactly a difficult thing to achieve

I wonder why people hate this movie?

i realy liked it . The movie is enjoayble and has a very interesting concept about creators of humanity from far away worlds.
What else do we have in cinema now? Endless wave of marvel/dc?
Good casting sharliz theoron, fassenbender, tom hardy, idris elba, guy pearce.

I liked the movie too, but I suspect it has something to do I. The way it retroactively affected the universe it exists in, as a standalone movie it was good (to me), maybe as part of a franchise it might not be the case

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Being consumed by a great white shark would be terrifying no matter how much you know about it. You don't need to cheat your audience with fake mysteries.

He was a prick is what he was. And since he could die he was no god

>tom hardy,
are you kidding?

That's Logan Marshall-Green bruh

I don't hate it. Its depressing. Since many scientists have theories like this
That we were left behind and "the creators" are really just mortal weaklings that could die if they drank some BLACK drank

I like it