Why are the White Walkers not conducting siege operations? Why is the Army of the Living outside the walls? They could easily get flanked.
What if the Night King just sent patrols?
Why are the White Walkers not conducting siege operations? Why is the Army of the Living outside the walls...
Ryan Bailey
Dominic Jenkins
Maybe Night King is a really cocky dude who think that he can just overwhelm the smaller army by sending his horde of undead.
Henry Murphy
Bran is cheese and Night King is the mouse
Brandon Ramirez
Well considering winterfell has siege themselves. For some fucking weird reason, flaming projectiles? Throwing flechette dragonglass at them? Im just gonna assume its counter siege intentions.
Kayden Rodriguez
>Mormonts & Greyjoys only contribute 40 peoples
I don't know if I should applaud them or laugh at them. Circumstances I guess.
Where did you get the 38k calculations though? Did I miss it, because I don't think they talk about it last episode.
Austin Rodriguez
why the piss would the karstarks have so many men?
Elijah Watson
>Gets slaughtered by knights of Vale on Season 6
>Still bent the knee and be a good boy for Jonny Snow and his foreign gf.
>Still give all your men and women to be slaughtered by Night King
Karstarks, more cuckstarks lmao.
Oliver Morris
I understand the Night King wants to kill Bran, but why is he sending all the walkers to attack Winterfell? He has the advantage of time and even the numbers on his side. Why doesn't he use guerilla like tactics, spreads his walkers all over the North, which is a large place with very few settlements? The humans will never rest until all walkers are dead, he only needs a couple of walkers to keep raising his army from the dead.
He should leave winterfell alone for the time being, attack the other castles with smaller forces... get the people at winterfell impatient... cracks among them would fall... some of them, like the Karstark, would leave if they knew their castle was under attack, then destroyed during the trip on open field. Once the Night King controlled all castles until the neck, then he should strike Winterfell. But never with all his forces. Never put them in a place where they can be destroyed with just one swipe
Makes no sense
Levi Baker
Weren't there thousands and thousands of wildlings? Where did they go
Henry Hill
Calculations on number of symbols per what we know. If they say 10,000 dothraki and so many stones to represent them. We know what each stone means numerically.
William Hughes
>siege
>in the got universe
Grayson Rodriguez
You're implying they bothered being consistent
Blake Price
>All of that cavalry on the frontlines of a fucking defensive formation
>Living armies are pointed inwards, implying the surrounding armies of wights aren't going to even conceptually tease the idea of a flanking maneuver, because even if the wights move directly forward from where they are, they instantly hit the Karstark and Vale flanks instantly
>"""""fort""""" that is utterly surrounded by ground units with an extremely tiny count of soldiers inside of it, because reasons?
>Literally every single Unsullied infantryman is for some fucking reason in front of the obsidian stake palisade despite them being spearmen who would benefit to an immeasurable degree by spearing wights as they pile onto the walls
I swear to Christ if you are correct about this, this is one of the worst formations ever created by any fiction writer bar none.
Jace Moore
Several of the unsubstantiated spoilers claim the night king is actually leading a small attack force south to kings landing. In that case the siege in the north would be a feint to draw forces away while the night king raises a second army to fully surround the only real opposition on the continent.
Benjamin Richardson
The Winterfell attack is a ploy, you fuckin idiots.
He’s going to Kings Landing on Viserion.
Winterfell gets btfo, they escape to dragonstone, and Tyrion blows up Kings Landing
Eli Ortiz
I think whatd Id do is have a small infantry at the points of entry. And then have cavalry come in and crush the funneled in wights as the infantry hodor and the walls are raining dragon glass. Rate my plan.
Christopher Howard
This would be logical and make sense, but I don't think we have the time for that with just six episodes and D&D don't want it
Joseph Diaz
Honestly the smartest tactic would be to surround the humans and box them in with his forces while killing his way across Westeros outside of it, sacrificing a few White Walkers in exchange for a dramatically larger army formed of dead Lannisters, Golden Company, etc. The only people who are adequately prepared to deal with this siege are all holed up in Winterfell expecting some grand final battle of Good against Evil. After the Night King loses maybe 20,000 or so Wights and probably like 20 White Walkers, the people of Winterfell will celebrate their "victory" as they are surrounded by literal mountains of wight corpses that will take ages to clean up, as well as their own dead, and in all of that time, the Night King returns almost immediately and blasts them from the side with a horde that is incalculably larger and attacks only from above with his dragon when he is fully aware that the Westeros Alliance is completely distracted fighting a wave of Wights who are only meant to draw attention.
Cameron Baker
>starve the humans out
>raise dead within their castle walls
>win without ever setting foot into the castle
Ian Watson
That would be almost good writing, since it ends Cersei's arc with his death as a result of her selfishness and treachery while making the Night King a bigger threat by virtue of him being intelligent.
Not gonna cross my fingers it'll happen.
Cameron Sanchez
Why doesn't ice zombie man just do the same thing he did at the wild northmen town, where a fog bank rolls in and then magically vanishes everyone outside the town walls? And assumedly kills/zombies them.
Do this but with the castle, and the army outside the walls.
Charles Jackson
Why arent there any forts shaped like this in westeros?
Tyler White
Star forts are a design made to try mitigate cannon fire. GoT predates this design.
Eli Peterson
Mediocre. The Cavalry should still remain outside of the castle walls, but their purpose should not be to be the first line of defense. They need to surround the castle and attack at the enemy's flanks, peeling off groupings of foes and shredding through until they can pick off a White Walker or two, breaking off, and retreating, with another Calvary unit set to cover their retreat, and being prepared to attack any enemies that would attempt to chase them.
Infantry should obviously be behind the walls and at most periodically charge outside of the wall to completely destroy already-damaged waves of enemies, maintain pikes and lances to spear whatever foes crash on the palisade, and remain trained and ready at all times to battle tooth and nail in case any of the gates crash, but from the safety of an easily blocked bottleneck that will eventually wind up so backed-up with wight carcasses that it will form a makeshift wall that they cannot get around. To add to this, Danaerys's dragons literally should only be present to spew gouts of flames through any broken gates that are too wide for a tightly packed infantry formation to block off.
Evan Wilson
>People are suggesting the night king starve them out
Ok lets think about this logically. There are two full grown dragons, and Bran.
Bran can literally just warg into someone else half way around the world and say “send help” while the dragons burn the standing army.
Joshua Jackson
They ARE the whites you mongoloid. Remember HardHome?
Logan Cook
>javelin the dragons
>the enemy now has three zombie dragons to iceburn the castle from above
Kevin Young
My mom works for ipad and she says you're right
Charles Hughes
>wildings almost by themselves inside winterfell
Literally the most retarded and careless idea that an army commander could come up with?
"Let's bring hundereds of savage humans from beyond civilisation whom are typically cunning and risky to deal with and have a hate for regular humans, although the circumstances dictate we need them to help us, and let's put them inside our city walls and completely disregard the fact that they could mutiny on us and take over the city at any whim, because they are savages you know"
Adrian Flores
Youre right and my idea did have cavalry staying outside. To meet the infantry at the entryways to crush the funneled in wights at speed. Theyd be basically jousting the perimeter of winterfell.
I do like the idea of having one of the dragons just camp one of the entryways throats.
Camden Diaz
Unless you have a solid plan to off the night king, being outside the castle walls on foot is just a singularly bad idea because you HAVE to win that battle outright. Kill every single walker and whight or, at the end of that "almost worked" tactic, watch as all your dead soldiers rise to become another army (but now you don't have one).
The best tactic is to move every civilian who comes to winterfell further south, and pack the castle with foot soldiers. Your cavalry should be outside in largish bands that strike hard and then run (given the dothraki are literally identical to a mongol horde, this shouldn't be too hard to achieve).
The dragons should circle and engage the dead dragon if he shows up.
Pretty much your only hope of winning this war is to find the night king and kill him, regardless of all the rest.
And he could be anywhere, raising another army of the dead, or lots of little bands of them all over westeros, using his dragon to transport his generals around.
Why is Jaime not on the war council? Here is a veteran commander who made the famously clever Tyrion look stupid. He'd never allow all those troops outside the walls.
Why is Tyrion not coming up with clever shit like barrels full of wildfire and dragonglass left outside winterfell for the dead to stumble past and get shrapneled?
And...for the love of the seven...why the fuck do these retards think that when you are battling a zombie master who can raise the dead, a basement full of corpses is the safest place to put the women and children?
Brody Hill
>Mounted armored knights against staggered rotten corpses or even skeletons
Forget the rest, the Vale knights at least in the lore, are among the most well-equipped and experienced knights in Westeros. Apart from like, the undead dragon and some other anomalies like a zombie giant or large fantasy beast here and there, how isn't it just a direct recreation of the Rohan charge in Return of the King? The zombie fucks have no formations, decent equipment (no spears!), or even notable mass since a lot of them are just skeletons. You form up the 2000 armored knights and horses, they could straight trample through the undead horde completely unopposed till exhaustion, since those undead fucks sure as shit aren't stopping them with some scattered rotten bodies and rusty small arms.
Literally just cycle charge till the horses get tired, then withdraw for a long recuperation, only to repeat.
Carter Clark
Surely in those 38k there are 20 good men.
Liam Ward
Why even keep the infantry out in the open?
Samuel Cook
Why is the capital of the north like 11 buildings, is this Skyrim?
Adam Long
Well yes, I would definitely like to compare GoT with Skyrim, but I still don't see why they just not keep the footsoldiers inside the walls while the cavalryand dragons harass the flanks and backline of the undead army
Levi Wright
Why is the nightking even attacking? Winter is expected to last for YEARS
Gilly & the dragons will have Winterfell looking like 1942 Leningrad in a week