This film is superior in every way to Silence of the Lambs, Hannibal, Red Dragon, that other prequel about Hannibal Lector when he was young + any television show that's ever been made.
Actually, this is one of the best movies of all time, plus it's directly in such a distinctly stylistic and slick manner.
Red Dragon was almost a shot for shot remake. Almost as bad as the Psycho remake in the 90s, except with primarily red and warm colors rather than with cool blue colors. Brian Cox was a better Lector than Anthony Hopkins. William Peterson was a better Will Graham than Edward Norton.
The Manhunter / Red Dragon story is far superior to every other story in this series because there are subtle supernatural elements since Will Graham is clearly a psychic empath, even if it's not explicitly stated, and there are occultic elements of "The Toothfairy" Francis Dollarhyde too.
This movie should probably be considered one of the greatest movies of all time. I bow to my knees and suck this movies dick. I worship it. This is a truly great film.
Jesus Christ man, everyone in Hollywood is Jewish. You can't be serious in suggesting that because someone is Jewish their movies should be disregarded as "good" or "great". For fuck's sake, you'd basically just be watching Mel Gibson movies until the end of time. And I think Mel Gibson movies are great, esp Braveheart, but they might get old if that's all you have.
And I don't even like Jews man. I mean I get the frustration, but holy shit.
Nicholas Wright
>This film is superior in every way to every other Hannibal Lecter adaptation
Yeah, no. It's got its charm but it's got plenty of clunkyness and certain dated stuff in it and doesn't really manage to bring some voracity to the movie like Fiennes did in Red Dragon.
Lincoln Martin
Based. Why do so few realize this? Brian Cox as Lecter is a hundred times more intimidating than Hopkins. Hopkins is like a cartoon character. Lecter in this movie was able to get Will's address and direct the Tooth Fairy to kill him despite being in a maximum security prison.The believability of that scene made it much more frightening than Lecter wearing some guy's face as a mask or somehow convincing a guy to swallow his own tongue.
Lincoln Johnson
For more Mannkino see Thief if you haven't, it and Manhunter are better than Heat IMO and those three are far better than anything he did since.
I like Collateral some too but I always skip the beginning with Jamie and treat the end of the club scene as the end of the movie.
Lucas Scott
Naw dawg, this movie sucked and that CSI dude is a faggot.
t. Just watched this
Levi King
What about Hannibal bro?
Asher Nguyen
So far in this order I've seen >The Silence of the Lambs >Hannibal >Red Dragon >Hannibal (TV) >Manhunter >Mindhunter h-how do i fill the void bros
start reading actual case files if you're really about it
Carter James
I don't really get why people hype Thief so much. Maybe you had to see it in the 80s but when I saw it two years ago it was fine, a decent heist movie from a technical and grounded point of view, but hardly that amazing.
William Miller
I saw it first this decade. Great cinematography, especially the driving shots at night. Frank is a really cool, unique character. Perfect soundtrack. Great villain, the final scene and end credits music are sublime.
Jayden Powell
>Lecter in this movie was able to get Will's address and direct the Tooth Fairy to kill him despite being in a maximum security prison this is directly from the book and it was present in Red Dragon, although it's a joke compared to Manhunter imo the Hannibal TV series did the killer visiting Will Graham's wife and child at home the best by far
also you have to admit, SotL has way more suspense compared to Manhunter, the classic door reveal of Buffalo Bill and of course the nightvisionkino I can hardly remember the same level of tension in Manhunter
Brody Lewis
Miami Vice (the series) is alllllmost as good as manhunter.. and I see no reason not to just watch manhunter then silence of the lambs as a solid double feature and leave it there. the ed norton movie is lame in comparison and hannibal was over the top ridiculous... yeah watching ray liotta eat his own brain is funny but overall that movie is garbage
Adrian Thompson
it's great but the ending sucks
Daniel Lee
Blackhat is pretty good tho. The director's cut which shifts a few scenes about is better. Real problem was that the script needed a few more rewrites.
It's a good movie, but it's babby's first contrarian opinion to unconditionally put it ahead of the other films, and it never gets brought up without its obsessed hipster fanbase doing that.
Every scene with Dollarhyde drips with tension. The buildup to Clarice's encounter with Bill was well-done, though, with the cops busting into the empty house.
Hudson Hall
Watch "The Fall", Scully hunts a compassionate serial killer of women.
Brayden Cooper
If you're a vegan Manhunter fan, which one do you say first when you introduce yourself to people?
Jeremiah Cruz
Oh my God. This is actually one of my favorite songs and the scene where it plays in this movie is truly one of the most masterful scenes ever committed to cellophane.
Ayden Ortiz
I'd say it surpasses SotL in most aesthetic areas, but the performances and writing are a mixed bag, ranging from superior in a couple cases to vastly inferior in many others. I'd go:
Manhunter = SotL > Hannibal (show) > Red Dragon (with all credit to Fiennes) >>>>>>>>>>>> Hannibal (film)
Samuel Lewis
It’s got some bad parts where Michael Mann definitely jumps the gun and reveals his autism. He’s riding an 80s possibly cocaine fueled ego wave and he does those classic ‘character looking off into the distance with cool expression’ shots and it just seems weak. Mann should’ve toned down the exhibitionism at parts, or atleast channeled it into different more concentrated directions. One great example is the scene with the tiger. We’re set up for this scene beforehand where the blind women talking to Francis abruptly stares at the camera lense, at once shocking us with revealing her blindness in the particularly emptiness of gaze and looking right at the camera, meeting the viewers eye. The scene with the tiger is next and we see someone guiding the women’s hands to touch the tigers head, then we see a pan of the tigers body starting from its tail traveling in sync with the music right up to the point where it appears that the tiger is meeting the viewers eye. The poetic flow of these two scenes together is really great. But Mann completely kills the moment by having the blind woman start crying and having this big over emotional reaction which to me seemed to follow the dramatic logical flow of events according the viewer, not her own actions from that event that she personally did as a character in the movie. She didn’t hear any music, she didn’t see what we saw, or emotional output was just annoying and fogging up the image, maybe that seems like nitpicking but it just felt really bland to me and killed such a great moment. Ending was dope tho
Dylan Morgan
>be blind >love animals, especially big cats >your boyfriend manages to score a hands on visit to a fucking tiger >you get to pet your dream animal, as a blind person Yeah man, I can't believe she cried /s
It is the best Lector movie, but Silence is a very good film as well and Demme is a genius in his own right.
Nathan Walker
It's one of my favorite films but I'd put both it and silence together as the best. Manhunter is definitely better than Red Dragon though. If you haven't seen Manhunter yet please do it, it's amazing
Jaxon Campbell
We just met her like 5 minutes ago, no ones invested in her own personal journey to pet a tiger. The whole point of the scene is the part when she reaches down into its mouth and pulls back its upper lip revealing that big fang, a symbolic reference to Frances fake teeth, the title of the movie itself, and all the other dialogue about eating people or hunting them ect ect. It just should’ve been more concentrated and focused on that element, her reaction is shot in a way that’s its seems like it’s supposed to be revelatory to some deeper meaning but it just falls flat.
Grayson Russell
>This movie should probably be considered one of the greatest movies of all time. I bow to my knees and suck this movies dick. I worship it. This is a truly great film.
This is a FACT.
Caleb Scott
It's not even about Lecter vs Lecter. Manhunter is Wills story and Hannibal plays a very small role in it and in this film it doesn't matter who plays him. It's irrelevant since they only have about 3 minutes of screen time anyway.
Carter Stewart
Francis has fake teeth? I must have missed that
Nathan Martinez
Silence of the Lambs is best film in the universe. It's such a beautifully shot movie. Manhunter is better than Red Dragon though, maybe because I hate Norton's stupid face.
Jonathan Baker
He wears dentures when he bites his victims.
Logan Brooks
I liked Red Dragon more just because I like Ed Norton. but Manhunter had the better wheelchairs of fire scene.
Jacob Barnes
>no ones invested in her own personal journey to pet a tiger >tfw I'll never get to pet a live tiger No one understands
Robert Hill
>a dozen arrows Hannibal (film) blows the other entries out the water on aesthetics, and the performances are top-tier too. Why do you think it should be so low?
Some dickhead put Tom Noonan in the preview screens for my copy of this, does that ruin the surprise of the killer or is it like Silence where you already see him throughout the film?
everyone hates Hannibal for some reason or another that I don't understand, it's very solid and a perfect Lecter movie
James Nelson
Hannibal is silly beyond comprehension and killed Hopkins-Lecter for me.
Grayson Green
explain
Chase Brown
I listen to Graham's Theme on my night drives.
Owen Stewart
It's even worse than Thief, and Thief's only good part was the ending that they stole from The Sopranos.
Carson Miller
you get introduced to his character even before the half way mark of the movie I think you get very intimate perspective too and it's so well acted and shot it's amazing
Benjamin White
well shot is a meme buzzword for when you don't know how to explain why you like something or demonstrate why something is good
Jayden Bailey
good post manhunter is fucking great i think silence of the lambs is also great as well but from a different angles the rest of the hannibal movies are meh to ok
Jason Martin
The silliness I won't explain, that is obvious, I hope. But what Hopkins Lecter always had that kinda throw me off was the visible joy when killing someone. They say in SotL that his pulse remains calm when killing someone. Joy raises your heart rate. They made him all too jovial, the cat-and-mouse game was too cartoony and then they made him walk around like in boomer clothes. That just doesn't fit with Lambs Lecter. There's probably more, but this is all I can think off right now on the loo.
Brandon Gonzalez
Agreed. Cox is a way better Hannibal than campy Hopkins version.
Tyler Ramirez
i honestly can't remember shit from any of the hannibal movies except the big 3 (manhunter, sotl and red dragon) the rest is just a fucking blur with barely memorable moments
Jordan Fisher
Manhunter aged better than silence although I like both Red Dragon was just dull, and the other hannibal movies were trash
Austin Miller
I bet you came here expecting this to be a dissenting opinion but I've often heard Manhunter praised highly here, Mann is one of the few directors almost universally liked on here.
Joseph Kelly
gary oldman getting eaten by his pig army is hilariously bad, but memorable
Why was this so funny? None of the the others made me laugh but seeing Ray Liotta drooling and eating his brain made me cackle. Do you think it's actually possible? Could I sedate someone and feed them their own lobotomy waste?
Dominic Turner
>Why was this so funny? Because you're pleb with rocks for brains and you lack the imagination for sympathy.
Kayden Jackson
I don't know user, every other film made me feel for the victims, but the pan fried brain is just too absurd, hence why I asked if it's even possible. Are there areas of the human brain where you could cut and retain some level of awareness? If not, it's just too silly to take seriously and feel sympathy. A girl held captive by Buffalo Bill was harrowing and tragic, but this just didn't do anything for me.
Carter King
Brian Cox was a much better lector in a different way... the other adaptations make him some of kind of an over the top supergenius who does evil shit for no reason, doesn’t seem to enjoy it or anything. Anthony Hopkins plays a genius who happens to do psycho things, while Cox showed us what it would be like if a garden variety sociopathic criminal just happens to be incredibly intelligent, which ended up being far more scary. Shame he didn’t get more screen time.
>”operator, I don’t have the use of my arms. Could you dial a number for me?”
Just finished. 6/10 it's okay. A lot of it felt like Mann taking a grittier approach to an episode of Miami Vice. It was a more human movie than its remake, but it lacked the same tension. I don't think it comes any where close to Silence, either. Maybe it'll grow on me, but I just felt less engaged overall.
Brandon Robinson
Also while I liked both, calling Hopkins' Lecktor camp and not Cox's is super hypocritical. They're both pretty camp.
Samuel Foster
best Hannibal by far that son of the Welsh baker is sooo over rated
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Owen Clark
THIS BIG HUSH INFECTS US ALL
John Thomas
I want his cool blue photo glasses he wears at his work. Those look dope
Ethan Williams
Cox played a better psycho. Hopkins played a better psychologist.
John Flores
The dude who plays Jack Crawford in Manhunter and his relationship with Will is so great. And Molly's role in the movie is a very nice. She doesn't nag and bitch and hate him for what he has to do because she knows he's trying to keep these bad things from happening to his family as well as others. And the alternate ending I thought was really good but I get why they chose the other. Still you could see it going either way because of how Will's brain works
Juan Cook
I disagree. It was absolute kino in terms of cinematography but Silence was the better movie.
Adrian Evans
Came here to post this
Ryder Ross
Goodbye Horses > In A Gadda Da Vida
Juan Ross
Imagine prime Michael Mann directing or co directing a John Wick movie. Those movies are never man(n)ly enough
