Claims to love the character

>Claims to love the character.
>Replaces him with a minority OC

So, now that the new Werewolf by night will be a native guy, who's next? why they can't create original characters with creative names like Mosaic?

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Mosaic was a great concept. I wish he'd come back.

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They made a native american warewolf? I need to check that out.

Are you sure?

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Yes. And the fact that this is the most "political" thing you were able to find about the book is quite pathetic, if i have to be honest.

It's just a preview, not sure if it's the most political thing yet.

Wait, what did he say that was wrong or bad??? What he said was literally the opposite of racism.

>It's just a preview
And OP is already butthurt about it. Incredible.

What was wrong with the actual Werewolf By Night, that they had to make a redwashed knockoff? The whole 'cheap imitation of a classic character you love, except they're a minority now' thing is so played out.

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I'm butthurt but not for that, for the lack of creativity... they should create new characters, not new legacy characters.

Look, it could still be good.
Just look at Ghost Rider.

>Getting upset over a werewolf that happens to be a Native American existing.
Cringe

>European Werewolf >>>>> shitty native-american Werewolf

Yeah, but he's also white and a man, so it's impossible for him to be anything but racist so he has to die brutally at the hands of a werewolf.

Context. When the people saying this are also the ones constantly raping and murdering natives, it rings a little hollow. Essentially, when people like this say these things, they're doing a doublethink two-step. What they actually mean is "Being an American means being more like ME, which means you'll never be American unless you act like my retarded ass, which means I can do what I want to people like you."

I've run into this shit so fucking often.

Why does the werewolf have tattoos? Does the artist think you can tattoo fur or has he just been spending too much time on Furaffinity? Why are it’s claws square on the ends?

Gotta love how asshurt burgers get when you remind them that they're the bad guys.

>they should create new characters, not new legacy characters.

not going to fucking happen, nobody is going to give their ideas to Marvel or DC for new heroes, when the can self publish now. That's why you'll see old and forgotten characters in new skins.

Or
Or
Maybe you just find racism and prejudice where there is none, so you can feel special for experiencing and/or opposing it

I would like to see a woman bear the mantle. Also, I have questions regarding llterature, lycanthropy and the genders

1: Why does it seem female authors are unable to do anything featuring heroes who are lycanthropes and have a biped battle form? Male authors do it, females always go the murry-purry route and have the character change into a pure animal, albeit larger than normal.

2: Male authors: the character is himself/herself, regardless of form

Female author: Character is always sharing their body with an animal spirit or something that dictates their actions during tranformed activities. The characters refer to themselves during those times as "my wolf/cat/beast" instead of 'I". Is that because women by and large lack personal accountability, and thus blame the actions of transformed characters on some "other" thing? In Monster Hunter Alpha, written by Larry Correiea (sp), the protagonist werewolf Earl Shackleford must put down his longtime rival, and realizes that the guy had become schizzoid, referring to himself in battle form as "the tvar" or "The Beast", and in his final moments asked Earl how he controlled his so well, not knowing that you ARE the werewolf, it is not separate from you mentally or physically.

>When the people saying this are also the ones constantly raping and murdering natives
What? You mean because he's white and other white people have done bad things?

Except racist attacks against native americans by whites are incredibly common, and they use this kind of justification all the time. They don't say this when they're being friendly, they say this when they want to get rid of you, or when they want to excuse their shitty actions against you. I think it's most likely that you just want to shut your eyes to how shit your fellow americans are, and how poorly they treat people.

He's doing bad things in the comic. You know this, you can tell what's going on here, but you're ignoring it because you want to plat the "yOuR tHe ReAl RaCiSs" card.

>1: Why does it seem female authors are unable to do anything featuring heroes who are lycanthropes and have a biped battle form? Male authors do it, females always go the murry-purry route and have the character change into a pure animal, albeit larger than normal.
The flagship for werewolves being battle-monsters with control over their actions is WtF, which had female writers working on it across its publishing history.
>Female author: Character is always sharing their body with an animal spirit or something that dictates their actions during tranformed activities. The characters refer to themselves during those times as "my wolf/cat/beast" instead of 'I". Is that because women by and large lack personal accountability, and thus blame the actions of transformed characters on some "other" thing?
No, it's because that's what the werewolf story is about classically - being possessed and transformed by a terrible curse that takes away your control over yourself. I guarantee you the majority of werewolf stories, whether written by men or women, are about this sort of thing.

I’m down for this.
But what ever happened to Good Boy, and her brother? And the pair of werewolf siblings from Scarlet Spider?

>Warewolf
>Is a native american
Sorry to break it to you, but native americans are the ones who came up with the legend in their continent.
Also there aren't nearly enough native american heroes, their folklore shit is amazing.

at least he isn't black like all of the new unneeded earth lanterns.

Native Americans had werewolves? I thought they had wendigos

>their folklore shit is amazing.
Yes but writers aren't going to use that

I thought it was skin walkers

they had both

They should have made him a skinwalker or wendigonor something.
Just doing the werewolf thing again but with a native is kind of lame.
Other than that and being incredibly late to the magical native craze this might be okay.

Can werewolf only be hurt by silver in human form or just as wolves?

>I would like to see a woman bear the mantle
Jack Russell's sister was one, until he cured her. Also his niece is a vampire-werewolf hybrid.

I think it works on both since as a human it can be killed normally.
Although it depends on which "laws" they made up in the story.

This.

The one we know literally nothing about? Keep seething /pol/tard.

Also,
>inb4 the "you're a shill" comment

Artistic license?

This. Native American folklore is really fucking underappreciated.

>Why does the werewolf have tattoos?
Magic.

Red wolf was a thing wasn’t it? I don’t mind more Native American characters, they feel quite underused

Red Wolf, American Eagle, Mirage, Forge, Warpath, Talisman.

Mirage and Forge are probably the two who get the most use these days.

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Melting pot in the context of native Americans is having your culture stripped away and sold as Halloween costumes, while your own culture fades to nothing more than a novelty in the overwhelming background noise. Whether it’s a natural cycle or not doesn’t make it easier to accept

Red Wolf is going to be in this new Werewolf by night book

Yeah he loves Red Wolf, not Werewolf by Night.
Speaking of which, Red Wolf will also appear in this book.

>What was wrong with the actual Werewolf By Night,
He cucked Deadpool

>He cucked Deadpool
How?

Bu fucking his wife?

>Claims to love the character
Just like everyone in this board.

I'm Japanese, worked in an Native American casino, the Natives were very disrespectful, calling me Jap in a derogatory manner and insisting I call them masters. I thought they were joking about that last part but they were a bunch of them and threatened to hurt me if I didn't. Unfortunately I pussed out and did. Not one of my proudest moments in my life. Differently one of the shit times in my life working there.

Are you a native?

This actually makes more sense honestly. A native american as a werewolf would add to the mystic side of the werewolves themselves, and it fits the culture involving the traits surrounding wolves

We have characters like Nightwolf from Mortal Kombat, and that dude who played a native american in a tribe of werewolves from the Twilight franchise

I agree. They need to be explored more. It's really interesting

What happened to red wolf? Or why not give force and ongoing?

Not obvious from the page alone, although it does fit with the standard operating procedure of having a strawman bad guy make reasonable arguments you disagree with as a deceptive way to make those arguments seem bad by association.

Too much of a stereotype

>Native Americans make better werewolves because they are more 'mystical' than whites
Ugly stereotype. Europe has a robust body of mystical folklore to draw from surrounding werewolves.

>native american is an "ugly stereotype"
>but another euro werewolf of which fiction is full isn't

And what point you'll finally realize that you are a retard?

But we get to know more of the culture. Native American cultures don't get enough attention

Except they're more on the horror elements. A Native American character that while having some horror elements can bring in the more mystic and warrior-like characteristics in a werewolf will be a new approach to explore

Red wolf is showing up, likely as a mentor

It's something Native Americans regularly complain about; being constantly portrayed as mystical warrior noble savages.

>giving characters a power that are coherent with their culture is a "stereotype"

Umh.

>Look, it could still be good.
Isn't it by some guy from Black Eyed Peas? Lol. Stick to rapping about lovely lady lumps.

Sounds like a plus in my book.

this has nothing to do with the power they gave to him, but how a native is written.

Native Americans are just people, they're not more mystical than anyone else. They have spiritual traditions but so does everybody else.

The fuck, they actually got a Native American to write this

If i know nothing about this character, where should i start?

>But we get to know more of the culture. Native American cultures don't get enough attention

Through mystic native stereotype.

What is the point of having a minority character and not using his culture? That would be literally just a token character, boring.

Yes user, they should have made a comic about a native running a casino in Vegas, i'm sure that would have been fun.

Wolf powers cause Native American. Stereotypical.

Nice to see that you found your new buzzword.

Or one working as a paramedic who so happens to be native working in the big city.

There's more to Native American culture in 2020 than "me smokum peace pipe to call down the Great Spirit and channel the totem of Brother Wolf".

>all this Yea Forumsmblr

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people would complain about it being a token character

Eh, a stereotype being bad or not depends on the execution. Red wolf was quite bad with it because he was mostly written by authors who only had a surface level understanding and didn’t bother with much in depth research, but it was a good try.

There hasn't been a single panel where the character speaks yet, i'm sure he won

There's more to Native American culture

Right? People cant seem to be creative with showing representation without resorting to using tropes.

This comic isn't trying to be a dismissive caricature of Native Americans like you're strawman argument is designed to be, though.

It will probably be a “teen reconnects with roots” story more than that

There hasn't been a single panel where the character speaks yet, i'm sure he won't talk like a retard.

>There's more to Native American culture

Like what?

Really? Who is these people? Natives?

>Like what?
“I smoke the grass and summon great eagle spirit”

mad that your outrage thread didn't go as planned?

Well it was going to happen anyways since she is a succubus. But I think Deadpool took it well

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Are you going to answer or not?

How was the plan?

I think user was being ironic about the fact that no, there isn't more to it.
Pretty sure the user who was pulling a strawman will never answer.

I was just kidding around, not the guy you replied to

Severe but fair.

OG Werewolf by Night, Jack Russell, has a Complete Collection you can start with. If you're just interested in the new guy you can just hop on the new series.

If anyone actually read the interviews regarding this mini, you would also realize that this is just a stealth Red Wolf series, a character that the author loves.
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To be fair, it has been brought up in the thread pretty early on.
OP was too eager to make a bait thread about his "beloved" Werewolf by Night that he didn't realize he couldn't even tell the difference between him and Red Wolf

Sick, thanks

>Yes but writers aren't going to use that
The writer is literally a native

Not to mention that, again, the writer is a native and loves that shit

Thabk you for being the only person in the thread with common sense.

Your brain is warped by shitty novels you've read, shut the fuck up.

>The writer is
Literally a celeb rapper from frigging Black Eyed Peas with no comic experience; this will definitely suck. Legacy characters are garbage and Marvel is only letting him do this because they think his celebrity will attract buyers. Shitty reason to replace and ruin a classic character.

Just because you don't know about them doesn't mean they don't make them, if anything proves that using an old name gives more spotlight.
New characters gets made every week, but regardless of the quality when they try to give them even just a mini, they hardly sell (see Mosaic who has been brought up in this thread already)

Cool. How does that make him non-Native?

My point was that it will suck. His ethnicity doesn't matter.

Moving the goalposts, from "they aren't going to use native culture" to "it is a legacy so it sucks".
Which btw this guy is as much of a legacy as Hercules was a "legacy" to Hulk, since he is just borrowing the title for a mini.

But hey, you are just a retard shitposter, wasting time with you will just keep proving that you are a dumb idiot who switches between SJW to racism just to shit talk about something he hasn't read.

Drinking mouthwash, casinos, incestuous rape, alchohoism, domestic violence, and everyone decent or unvictimized living nowhere near any reservation

How about you read your own post again?
Btw my point is that you are a retard.

>stealth Red wolf book
Well fuck I might just pick this up, one of the rangers is better than none.

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Mosaic is an inhuman, which means he's tied to existing characters. What I'm saying is you'll never see new characters like a spider man, Dr. Strange , unless a writer doesn't care about royalties, hell even that star chick is tied to the infinity gems.

Only good news!

But it was European first, anyway, to be honest they should do Latin American folklore too.

I want to see the hero twins fight crime with their ballgame skills.

Most of the new characters marvel pushes are legacyies that have stronger ties to existing characters than mosaic. Hell the non legacy members of champions barely make it on to covers.

Looks like someone's coming to the defense of shitty female paranormal authors...what next? You're gonna try to convince me Laurell K Hamilton didn't start shitting up her novels after Obsidian Butterfly?

He's an actual werewolf, right? not some shitty-looking Lon Chaney wolf-man without a snout?

The problem with this is europeans are at war with them (and animals in general). Native americans embrace it and are granted shifting abilities. Or they can be skinwalkers and gain the power by vile, despicable means, and feeding on fear, misery and death. I would like a series where native werewolves hunt skinwalkers preying on reservations across America.

Interesting typo: you either left 2 letters off the first word, or you simply accidentally hit the key next to the intended letter.

Their land, their rules, bro. (1/18th Seminole)

Lon Chaney. He sometimes gets a snout in cameo appearances.

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Pass. He's a werewolf, not a wolf-man. Snout or I'm out.

Is the original WWbN in it at all or is he forgotten entirely? If it were a passing of the torch kind of story, I'd be ok with it.

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To be honest, I actually kinda like the Lon Chaney look. Get the right artist and he can look pretty badass.

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There's no mention on Jack in any of the solicits. Like said, it's a stealth Red Wolf series using another name.

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I'm surprised Thorne chose to push the Inhuman connection instead of jumping ship now that they are in the doghouse.

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Wait. Was that thing going down Iron Man's forehead actually meant to a design element emulating those weird widow's peak haircuts that you'd see on characters like Doc Savage?

What the fuck is with this sarcam? Scalped was great. It's interesting and fun as fuck, with the major storyline being about the casino owner and his illegal dealings. It had a fantastic look into the culture and mystical aspects of the (fictional) tribe as well.

All y'all in this thread need to read Scalped.

Opposing corporations stealing land and getting fucked up by militarised police while the second amendment types do nothing despite always professing that they need guns to stop that sort of thing.

It's a High Top Fade

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Second amendment types are just cowards too afraid to admit that they only like guns because they’re cool, so they constantly make up bullshit excuses.