15 things I hated in Endgame

She didn’t get dusted away with the army so pastGamora has now taken the original Gamora’s place.

No, she returned to her original timeline.
You can see in the end Star lord searching for her in the ship when Thor enters the ship.

She does have her own suit in the comics. The suit is called rescue. That's probably why they included it.

>10 minutes of raw fucking in space
>finally get to see bries leaking pussy
honestly one of the best post credit scenes in the whole mcu

>15 things they didn't spoonfeed me so I hate it
Seriously read your blog again and kys. It's embarassing.

> I still don't get Cap returning the stones. Doesn't that mean he had to put the reality stone back inside Jane Foster?

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>What a literal copout. Captain Marvel is the most overpowered Mary Sue character ever.
So you mean she went through ships exactly like Thor did in infinity war? Why is it ok for Thor to do it but not ok for her?

This. The tesseract alone is enough to teleport.

3)Nebula has done a lot of bad shit in her life. She is trying to become a better person, by helping people.
4) Scott didn't know at that point half the world was gone. He was confused.
5) Professor Hulk was underwhelming. Too much Banner and too little Hulk.
7) Since she has the ability to teleport, she likely went to New York the moment she heard it was under attack by aliens.

Yeah no I think the plot of GotG3 will be that Gamora never returned to her timeline and they will be trying to find her.

They explained away the timeline problems in the movie with the whole “the past is your future and becomes your present” line

>4) Scott Lang trying to make sure her daughter's name is not in the San Francisco memorial is such a dumb scene. With half the population gone, he would have to look at millions of names.
user, they were in alphabetical order.

Because it felt unearned. Thor went through so much from the first Thor movie up until Endgame.

Captain Marvel just showed and saves the day. It didn't help that her solo movie wasn't all that great at establishing her in the MCU.

They extracted the stone not long after that anyway in Thor 2 so Steve just had to put it somewhere in the room.

Strange was making a 'one' sign with his fingers, letting Stark know we were in the single timeline where we win

Rocket HAD been going back into space. Widow said she gets emails from him.

From space? Why were they even in contact?
They already killed Thanos and at that point of the story didnt think there was any hope at undoing the snap. Rocket and Nebula would have moved on in Space.

Yes it's implied Steve went to those planets in different times, and they got Pym back as well so there's no limit now. My only question is how did he return the Soul Stone and what happened to it afterwards. Did Red Skull return it back to universe or smth. And what happened to the sacrificed souls then. Still left unexplained.

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The fact that we didn't get a scene of Captain America meeting Red Skull at Vormir to return the Soul Stone is outright movie malpractice.

And I think the memorial is exclusive to SF citizen not the earth population so it's not that much.

Carol had left because as far as she knew, Thanos was dead and the snap wasn't getting undone.

do you know how big San Francisco is?

I think the Cap ending MOSTLY makes sense, in that it was easy for him to do, but it seems to completely contradict what Banner said about not being able to change the timeline.

Yeah i dont understand the old man ending either. Bucky knew he wont return and cap should have just left a note to falcon like youre captain murica now or whatever. As for how he put the stones back. It doesnt matter cuz the plot is scooby doo tier anyway. X-men: Days of future past did this first and did it better

The whole idea of the snap was that you would not be entirely certain who was snapped unless they had social colleagues who were not snapped and actually gave a shit about them.

The idea that they would have made a list of everyone who was snapped for some monuments is ridiculous, especially when in the five years since the snap they have failed to move cars/boats, demolish empty buildings, etc...

Under a million. Half of that got snapped. The names were listed in alphabetical order. Out of all the things to bitch about this movie, you've picked the stupidest one

Why was the red skull there in the first place?

Doesn't mean half of SF is gone. Judging from the tombstones the names didn't even reach more than 100000 and it's alphabetical as well.

I just hate how they sorta ruined Thanos. I know its a slightly younger Thanos but I felt something was off about him. Like he's intentionally evil instead of just a delusional psychopath. If it wasnt released so close to infinity war I'd think that they rewrote him so idiots would stop sympathizing with him. A bit of a shame.

He didn't change the timeline. He decided to live a happy life with Carter first and then return.

Nah, Star-Lord's trying to find her because she's run off to come to terms with having a boyfriend she's never met.

Except you need the time machine to return. At no point in the movie did they show characters returning wherever and whenever they want.

At the end of the day, they needed a villain to punch. That's the problem with these movies. They could have done something truly progressive and not had a villain for the majority of the movie and let the drama be character driven, but you have to have your light show so the drones can clap.

They partly moved on, but stayed in contact.

I listed like 17 other things. Okay this one might be a bit nitpicky, I will give you that.

He aged, dipshit. The super soldier serum lets him do that.

The space stone placed him there and cursed him.

He's no longer the same since he knew he had succeeded his life-long mission in the future and the only thinghe needed to do was to completely defeat the Avengers and use the gauntlet to reset the Universe.

Most were clearly explained in exposition. Heck the Time travel explanations were pretty great for eliminating and fuckups. Its probably the safest form of time travel in all of fiction.

The biggest issue with the movie is time travel & how we get a younger, dumber & weaker Thanos with no emotional connection to the avengers

Also they shot themselves in the foot with Thanos's new plan. Thanos can't create new resources but he can fucking destroy an entire universe and then create a NEW universe abundant with resources? Like shit dude why'd you go off and do that 50% shit then?

Also, Hawkeye calling him 'Red floaty guy'. He doesn't recognise the Nazi super-villain who fought Cap by him having a red skeleton face, and using a German term of address with Widow?

He went from oh im fair and square 50% gone to im gonna destroy earth cuz people are annoying. Wtf.

I guess maths is hard huh?

Living a happy life with Peggy IS changing the timeline! And he didn't 'return' in any sense other than travelling to meet Bucky and Falcon on that date.

How is my math wrong here?

He cannot age back into the same timeline because Peggy in the main timeline never end up marrying Stever. In CA: Winter Soldier, it was mentioned that Peggy married some other WW2 Vet from the platoon that Captain America was in.

The only was this would make sense is either
1) Peggy cheated on her husband and married Captain America in secret (despite having a family with someone else) but somehow forgot about it (maybe due to dementia)

2) Captain America was pretending to be a different guy and married Peggy. So the WW2 vet that Peggy married was Steve all along and maybe he used a disguise.

Either scenario is just ridiculous.

He realized the flaw in his plan that the survivors would not just accept their fate like that so he go all in this time.

>Except you need the time machine to return. At no point in the movie did they show characters returning wherever and whenever they want.
Literally every time someone completed their mission, this is what they did. They activate their hand gizmo and Pym particles, and get zapped back to the machine (which was still right there by Hulk).

I thought the movie picked up greatly once Thanos was actually present again.

Exactly, they get zapped back to the machine. Captain America just ended up an old man sitting on a rock. Hulk didn't even bring him back with the machine.

Have we ever seen Peggy husband in Winter Soldier or Civil War? Genuinely asking here.

Am i the only one that enjoyed Pepper in an iron man suit? It was comfy af. It didnt feel that forced to me, shes worn the suit before and she couldve believably trained in that 5 years being in protective mother mode mode for her daughter and preparing for another attack with the worlds messed up. Scarlet Witch didnt bother me either.

Though I 100% agree that Captain Marvel, Valkyrie and The Wasp was cringe and forced.

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Don't forget he had sex with her niece

He was always delusional and mad, he thought people would just start thriving when he killed everyone but they didn't, they stagnated and he thought they'd be greatful but of course they're not and they're even trying to undo it, so he determined that he'd have to just wipe them all cause he was pissed too at this point being arrogant and unable to face the fact he was wrong

Why should Clint know about him? Cmon man

she talks about it in the film reel in the Museum that Steve visits in CA:Winter Soldier.

I don't get your point. Obviously most people DO have others who know they've vanished, so they go on the list.

I understand that but if he actually could just make more resources instead of killing people. It'd be a lot easier, and nobody would object to it. Maybe he's still a bit delusional but theres no way he'd just off and ignore that.

Because he goes back to the 40s and stays there. Then grows old, knows that in 2023 they'll be sending young him back near that rock, and goes there and chills.

Also, if Thanos 2014 is dead IW Thanos should not exist

INITIATE INTERCOURSE

There's a Captain America museum. I'm confident it would have a bit on Red Skull.

>Why did Nebula and Rocket stick around Avengers HQ for 5 years?
They didn't
> Why didn't they just go back to right before Star-Lord threw a hissy fit and ruined the plan on Titan?
Can't let anybody see you and understand what's happening
>(no idea why she left in the first place)
She outright says the reason
> The most egregious scene of all is the ending where Captain America went back in time to return the Infinity Stones to their original timeline.
You've misunderstood how time travel works in the movie

I thought it was garbage but come on.

We never seen any picture of him or them together then? Quite an amazing easter egg for me. She didn't reveal much either when Steve visited her in her death bed.

Sure, but he abandoned the principles that made him a compelling character in favor of babyrage YOU'RE ALL FUCKED NOW bullshit that's entirely divorced from IW. As if they knew introducing time travel would throw narrative cohesion out the fucking window so they didn't even try.

Totally agree

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>Am i the only one that enjoyed Pepper in an iron man suit? It was comfy af. It didnt feel that forced to me, shes worn the suit before and she couldve believably trained
It just felt awkward and out of left field. I think there must have been a cut scene which sets up her training with the suit or something.

Thats what i thought happened but literally everyone else is still confused about this. Which is making me confused.

Same with Nebula.
I don't get how the past can be remotely unchanged.

Morgan has peppers helmet at the start, Tony explains it was a anniversary gift and jokes pepper never wears what he buys her.
Its been 5 years, That would be a fucking awesome anniversary gift to train how to use a suit like that.

Apparently a kid's movie is too complicated for some. They're basically stating that there's been two Caps since the 40s. The one that was frozen in ice, and the one that wakes up in 2012, does all the Avengers shit until 2023, then goes back to the 40s. Then after 2023, we're back to a single Cap.

Meant for

He didn't just stay in the 40s. He married Peggy which effectively creates an alternate timeline. Peggy never married Captain America in the main timeline. The fact that he was able to grow old and somehow still be in the main timeline makes no sense.

He cannot create more or infinite resources. I dont think it's even plausible for him to completely reset the entire universe. He just wanted to kill them all.

They explain THREE seperate times that the quantum gate allows them to go back and create NEW timelines. They always return to their own without anything changing.

Not to mention she used his suit in IM3. So her using the suits is nothing new

I thought Valkyrie & Wasp were fine, but Captain Marvel is just too overpowered to fit in with the current MCU, as soon as she appears the tension drops like a brick

They should have saved Carol for the next phase, where she will be balanced out with the introduction of X-men (particularly Jean, Rogue) & others like Dr.Doom, Silver Surfer etc

This movie makes no sense it's a big clusterfuck with a million portals opening all of a sudden with everybody back alive

I didn't have a problem with Pepper using the suit in the final battle. I just wish the movie set that up a little more.

Yup. Considering Spidey has his own AI its not a stretch that Peppers does a lot of the work!

So HOW THE FUCK is Marvel preparing a Black Widown movie if she died?

Thats Doctor Strange opening portals to where the Avengers were.

it's a prequel

The books killed her off recently and she came back as clones. But I don't think the movies are following her origin as Russian spy from the 30s.

It's a prequel and we always knew it would be

shes back by the end of it :/

Did you not pay attention? Strange rounded up all the avengers Allies

She wears a suit TWICE and KILLS Killian in IM3.
At the start of Endgame they establish what and where the suit is from.

no they need to complain because the last woman they opened the door for didn't suck their dick don't you understand

No she isnt. You havnt watched the film. Hulk loses his arm trying to get her back during the unsnap.

You've added to the mess.
The one that was frozen in ice IS the one that wakes up in 2012. Ther are 2 Caps in the inbetween years - the one I'm still talking about who was still frozen and hadn't woken up yet, and the one who's already done his Avenging then travelled back to the 40s.

Nigga, Spidey literally has expository dialogue as to why they all rocked up. Do you just look at the images on go "OOOOOH PRETTY"

I can't wait to have that shot of all the women avengers as my desktop background too

except she isn't

Then how does old Cap show up in main timeline???

End Game is basically if in Dragon Ball Z, instead of fighting Perfect Cell, they time travel back to where Imperfect Cell appeared & beat the shit out of him, while Cell didn't know what the fuck was going on

Seriously, why kill the Thanos that had a connection to the characters & replace him with a weaker version that doesn't know the Avengers personally

That was the least confusing scene in the film, brainlet

That black dude Red Falcon or whatever is the new cap right

So they screw other timelines to save theirs, great

These retards havnt seen the film OR ignore dialogue.

And also if they go back to stop Quill that would mean they would've cancelled the snap and nobody from the future would've been able to go back to Titan. Imagine the confusion on this board had such paradox happened.

The one that died was actually a skrull lol

That's fair, it just rubbed me the wrong way.

Guess how I know you didn't watch the fucking movie.

i'm still dissapointed that MCU Thanos is weak compared to comic Thanos just so he can be beaten.

He was a loop. Basically a boostrap. He was always Peggys husband all this time. He had to get everything PERFECT to be in the one correct timeline.

Nigga that's what I said.

yeah they have several scenes explaining the moral complications of this.

how is cap back as an old man? didn't get that bit

He went to the 40s and never came back he grew old and showed up

Cap goes back in time, stays there, grows old.

I'm honestly at a fucking loss at the sheer amount of people that didn't understand this movie for teenagers.

It would just create an alternate timeline. You can't have paradox and alternate timelines in the same movie. The two are mutually exclusive.

thought when they went back in time they ended in a different timeline

He ALWAYS was Peggys husband, Its the only closed loop in the film. Just like how Strange explains ONE timeline results in a Win its also that which leads to the perfect loop being closed.

He had always gone back in time. Cap essentially loops himself.

Very few people here have actually watched it, so people are asking dumb questions based on bullet point spoilers.

We never see Thanos take advantage of the IG, in IW Thor surprises him & catches him off guard just as he puts it on, then in EG he doesn't get to put it on properly (hence why he took out the power stone to punch Carol)

I was hoping he would really play around with all the stones powers in EG with the final fight, then get mad enough to do another snap & obviously fail because some sort of hijinks ensue

These idiots dont pay attention to exposition and think its all BTTF timetravel.

They literally JOKE that BTTF got time mechanics wrong.

>What was the point?
It's just a character moment, to show us what Tony was doing and that Nebula is still a good girl.
>2) Captain Marvel saving Tony and Nebula.
I don't see the problem, especially on hindsight since Captain Marvel does jack shit the entire movie
>Why did Nebula and Rocket stick around Avengers HQ for 5 years?
Because they lost everything and they can't move on.
>With half the population gone, he would have to look at millions of names
So i haven't watched AntMan and the Wasp, but i assumed that Antman didn't know about the Snap, also he was emotional and scared and obviously not acting rationally.
>Why didn't they just go back to right before Star-Lord threw a hissy fit and ruined the plan on Titan?
Because Thanos is a scary monster and strong as fuck even without the stones, note that on Earth their first plan when Thanos shows up is to get the stones as far away from him in a panic.
>7) The Ancient One on the rooftop of the NY Sanctum taking pot shots at the Chitauri soldiers is just dumb.
I don't know Dr.Strange comic book lore but i assume a giant space/time hole vomiting a million space aliens over NY took priority.
>8)
The first Captain America movie ends with the Tesseract sucking Agent Smith into another planet, i don't blame you for forgetting though.
>9)
Yeah it was dumb, but it's one of those things that i tend to forgive just because it's a movie, and a comic book movie for kids at that. I also don't think the magic planet would've accepted that as a sacrifice, or maybe it feels pity because it's a magic planet who the fuck knows.
>10)
Well they were referring to bringing her back with the stones.
>11)
I take it you didn't watch Justice League, because in that Superman shows up at the end and single handily beats the bad guy, that's way worse than what Cap Marvel did. Also she left because as far as she knew Thanos was dead and the snap was unsnappable.
12)
Yes
13)
Who cares? Are pegasus even Asgardian?

Great to see someone getting it.

How the fuck was Captain America Peggy's husband all along. Especially in the 40s when Captain America was quite possibly the most famous man in America.
It just doesn't make sense. He would have to be in disguise pretending to be someone else for this theory to even fit. That and also the fact that Peggy held on to this secret all her life.

I know that, but guy I'm replying to says Cap created a divergent timeline. Well, old Cap showed up without using the quantum machine, so how did he get back to main timeline?
It totally contradicts Hulk's time travel explanation.

> MCU Thanos is weak
Dude how could say that after you read how the retards in this board complaining how Thanos without the gauntlet could take Iron Man-Cap-Thor-Mjolnir-Stormbreaker combo, Cap Marvel, BP etc etc? The only one that almost able to kill him was Wanda but he was saved by the cannon rain.

BECAUSE OLD CAP WAS ALWAYS IN THE MAIN TIMELINE

It wasnt millions of names. It was just San fran and alphabetical.

The quality is pretty shitty on the early chinese theatre recorded version it's hard to hear all dialog

dad bod thor is pretty hot desu

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Thanos is weak when he can be beaten by a parlor trick from Ironman

>14)
I just assumed since Tony made the gauntlet, he had the Gauntlet eject the stones by itself, and he grabbed them off screen with his nanomachines, so Thanos didn't see it because it was literally outside of his field of view.
>15)
I'm sure 2500 people already explained this, but Cap Just went back in time and stayed there until he grew old, and he just walked to where they were. And the Bald Woman from Dr. Strange explained that the split timelines happened when you took a stone from the timeline, Cap returned all the stones, so, no split timelines.

That's what Tilda was saying to Hulk, and why they HAD to get all the stones back to where they needed to be later.

Cap was a constant. It goes with Hulks explanation how CHANGES affect the timeline. Making things correct again will keep the branch going and close the loop. Seeing old cap at the end means he managed to fucking to the humungous task of closing such a loop.

he's like over 160 at least

Because Hawkeye wasn't even born at the time.

That's my fucking problem, even the stones are nerfed to the ground.
This niggas expect me to believe that a fucking laser with the power of the 6 stones can't obliterate Thor with his weak ass axe and one shot everyone.
The same stones that are all mighty and one of them can delete planets.

Did Cap create an alternate timeline, or not?

>Marvel's time travel shitshow
Thanks for sharing, sparing my shekels on this shitheap

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>He would have to be in disguise pretending to be someone else for this theory to even fit. That and also the fact that Peggy held on to this secret all her life.
that's probably what happened. cap was basically a loop and remember that two caps can exist with quantum shenanigans, so it was probably their secret. we never saw peggy's husband at all

Writing out Thor and Cap felt really tacked on. Even Tony's death felt poorly written and executed. The strong women shot was shockingly bad. It felt very unnatural and pandering. I did like them unfucking the snap and immediately having Thanos come back to fuck them up again but it turned into a toy commercial after that. Black Panther, Spidey, and Strange coming back just seemed weightless and suddenly having them fighting people felt weird because they'd been gone the whole movie and then they're just another face in the CG battle.

There's a real emotional disconnect at the end and I just unplugged. It's too bad because I really enjoyed it until that point.

No. Alternate timelines are only created when you remove an infinity stone and his literal fucking mission is to return them all.

Why did they entrust a task that took like 10 avengers to just cap and were dusting off their palms before he even returned?

>Writing out Thor
From everything we saw it just looks like to me he's legitimately going to become a Guardian of the Galaxy

I'm at a loss as to how everyone survived a fucking MOAB from Thanos' ship

I don't know how people keep missing this when it's so obvious, Thanos is the bad guy, the only reason he has his plan of eliminating 50% of the universe is because he has a chip on his shoulder over losing his homeworld because his gobverment didn't listen to him and enforce his half genocide plan. It's not that he can't double the resources, it's that he desperately wants to prove that he was right at any cost. And now, knowing that he succeeded, and his plan worked, but people still refuse to accept it and will go to any lengths to stop him, he is just fucking pissed and will now kill everyone to make sure people accept his plan even if they don't know about it.
tl;dr: He is evil, and a psychopath, so he can't even understand why people will not accept his plan.

Its proof that most people here despite telling us how much capeshit sucks, are pretentious virgins that at the end of the day have absolute shit taste and are literally retarded as fuck. Its really not that hard to figure out all these plot points unless your a fucking autistic child who has to find some super logical reason for everything in a superhero movie.

Could this maybe be the case. I guess so. Is it shitty writing? Absolutely.

>but it turned into a toy commercial after that

so is this your first superhero movie or what? superhero movies are 2 hour commercials for toys and merch, if you never noticed.

Thor was weak as shit in end game though, Thanos would have got wasted if a proper Thor & Captain Marvel tag teamed him

In fact i was hoping that would happen & Thanos would come out on top, instead Thor is just a dumb & Carol just gets thrown around

Then how did he get the sones back to other timelines?

*Thor is just a bum

I mean i hoped we would see Thanos with a fully powered IG take on Thor & Marvel in a proper fight, but oh well

His last scene was funny but the [spoilerscene with Valkyrie came out of nowhere and felt really forced

I liked it, i kept expecting that to happen in every Ironman movie since the first one, and it kinda happened in 3, sorta.

By dropping them off at their respective timelines. They literally spell it out for you at the end of the movie, and you're still confused.

Who the hell cares about the woman shot? Its not a big fucking deal you incel.

Thor and the raccoon have good chemistry they want to keep that going he's a gotg now

Jesus Christ. Most people understand who Adolf Hitler was, and would also know about his super-villain associate.

There sure are a lot of people who havnt seen the movie in this thread and lots of them seem upset that women might all be in a shot together without a man, dont see yall complaining when its all men...

Come on it was corny and forced as fuck.

Because the men actually do stuff

The snap wiped out half of the population, not half of every individual city.

The Hulk dabs and Thor plays Fortnite and that's all there is to say about this movie.

>literally any scene with women
>"i hated it it felt really forced"

Yes, but statistically if 50% of the population got snapped, we can assume 50% of SF probably got snapped.

its a thursday night, don't you kids have school tomorrow?

You mean like almost everything else in capeshit?

Thor's obviously in GOTG 3.
I felt the complete opposite: Wasn't keen on the 'MCU greatest hits', but it got a bit more like what made IW good when Thanos started fighting.

objectively wrong, fuck off
The shot was terrible and cringepilled

That's not how probability works at all.

What did the girls do after they grouped up? Must have been something pretty big to pause the last Avengers movie.

Thor is 100% going to be in GOTG 3
I suspect we will get a Thor 4 eventually too, Thor & Loki are popular & the actors don't ask for a billion dollars like RDJ

Captain Marvel had 3 scenes in this whole movie she fucks off somewhere until the end she might as well have not been in at all

Pretty sure the whole Hydra thing was a super duper secret organization. Shield is also a super secret organization but i don't see why Clint would need to know about some red asshole that died in the second world war. It didn't strike me as weird at all, besides, even if he knew there was a red skull guy in the second world war, it's still a stretch for him to make the connection that this floaty red skeleton ghost in an alien planet is the same guy, especially when at best Clint would've read about him in some old file somewhere.

>Alternate timelines are only created when you remove an infinity stone
Sounds like bullshit. Nobody ever said other changes wouldn't create new timelines.

I just hated how easily they killed Thanos the first time or even tracked him down and got there so fast.

It also feels like they wrote this movie without Captain Marvel being a part of it and decided to add her last minute

Not to mention how they all just managed to be there despite the size of the fucking battle. It existed to be a new trendy cover photo for people's Twitter accounts.

Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure it does wonders for your self esteem.

you should probably book a ticket if you want to go see it this weekend

Literally who the hell cares about different timelines?

literal brainlet

Did anyone notice that Hulk has to try on the gauntlet for it to be big and therefore Thanos would know to put it on? If it was a human sized gauntlet like Thor, Thanos wouldn't even consider it. Basically the real reason Hulk uses it over Thor.

There's lots of stuff that wasn't said. What was directly said was the line about the Infinity Stones though.

>It also feels like they wrote this movie without Captain Marvel being a part of it and decided to add her last minute

That is the case, Russo Brothers didn't want her in, obviously they came to a compromise & limited her screen time

The shot just didn't work.
Compare and contrast it with a similar shot from Infinity War.
Black Widow and Okoye were at the front lines. About to get mowed down by those sharp wheel thingies. Scarlett Witch came down and powerfully repel those gigantic machines back at the enemy.

Proxima Midnight then executed a surprise attack on Scarlett Witch correctly assessing that she is the biggest threat there. Proxima taunts her as she is about to be executed saying that she will die alone just like his beloved Vision. Black Widow's voice then can be head saying "she is not alone". Widow and Okoye then begin to go toe to toe with Proxima Midnight because they are efficient at hand-to-hand combat and Scarlett Witch isn't.

What we got in Endgame:
A nice photo op of all the female avengers.

Lame.....

Thor 4 seems unlikely since Asgard is now some shitty little village in norway

>Literally wrong
>"Yeah no, I'm still right"

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Pretty sure Proffesor Hulk did in fact say that in a joke conversation with Antman and WarMachine when they were talking about time travel movies. Either way, this is the kind of stuff that it's best to ignore, if you start thinking about time travel literally every single time travel movie breaks.

wow you guys really did get triggered over captain marvel

They probably had sex

Yep. How do you hop from one timeline to another? Shouldn't that at least involve coming back to the quantum machine inbetween?

>Thanos is living a nice and comfy life doing nothing wrong
>just finished picking out the fruits of his work and about to eat dinner
>gets ganged up by the Avengers who also destroy his house , cut off his arm then promptly kill him despite changing nothing
Hated it too.

Tell us how you would've written it. Thanos was badly injured he struggled to even climb up the ladder and the stones are gone.

Is there one series that doesnt absolutely fuck up the powerlevels just for plot to happen? Call me autistic but this shit just rubs me the wrong way.

There is other realms, they will make a new Asgard off of Earth

POSSESS VAGINAL PENETRATION

welcome to whitemenland

>nice and comfy
Destroying the stones fucked his shit up. Didn't he say he was fucked even before they got there?

It absolutely fucking IS. The larger the number of people, the more likely it will even out at 50%. A million is easily enough to make anything far off 50% very, very, very unlikely.

Cause popcorn munchers needed someone to get punched.

Yeah that kind of felt too dark for the Avengers honestly, they should have just left him there

Keep lying to yourself. I don't see people complaining about every scene with women in it like you claimed tranny.

>"but they could have gone back to X instead and stopped Y"
No, time travel is essentially just parallel universe hopping, it doesn't change the actual past, only the future of an alternate timeline. So apart from using it to get duplicate stones, it serves no real purpose.
>"Then why is cap an old man??"
Good point, but a plausible explanation is that he chose to jump to a different point to account for the amount of relative time he spent in the parallel universe. Note that hulk fails to 'get him back'' but he and tony both manually jump to another past point fairly easily. He probably jumped back to near the time he left and then sat on a bench dramatically.

this scene is literally a call back to that one, i assume you didnt see the movie yet because holy shit you manbabies cant be this dumb

Gotta admit i didn't even think about it, but on hindsight that is pretty funny.

Yeah they acted like a pack of nig nogs

>the strongest biological being in the universe is crippled for just using the gauntlet
>Hulk gets a slightly less buff arm
>stark actually lives for a minute or two
COHERENT

Speaking of Loki teleporting...where do you think he teleported to and why?

No. Like when Steve and Stark went to 2012 and then 1970. The only time when they need the portal is when they need to go back to their original timeline.

>>literally any scene with women
They're criticising one particular scene, which was very forced. "literally any scene" is a clear, outright lie.

Its the fucking absolute climax to 11 years of MCU. It doesnt matter if it felt forced or not. The entire final battle is fanservice and if you dont understand that strong women shot as one of them then you need to get the fuck out your house and talk to people.

They show Stark and Cap doing it when they jump on the fly from 2012 to 1970. They start punching in some numbers on whatever they have on their wrist.

Thanos felt like a different character in Endgame. Its Goku Super all over again.

Also for a capeshit movie, the choreography and fights were a mess and forgettable. In IW there's a plenty of memorable fight/moments.

In Endgame, the only thing I remember was that 10 seconds Cap vs Cap fight and Cap wielding the Mjolnir.

i can has cheezburger

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To a better movie

How are you missing the point. The ladies don't even do anything just make for a nice desktop background and start beating up some mooks. How have you missed the utterly different context between the two scenes. Why did all the women avengers suddenly all group together at that point at that one time? It was forced as fuck.

Using the gauntlet TWICE. Fuck sake.

OPM.

Its not. Thor was never the leader type, never a king. He's a warrior, and a hero, he's an adventuring kind of guy. He eneds some time with the Guardians so that he can reconnect with his glory days and lose that beer gut.

YASSSSSSSSSS QUEEN, SLAY!

Did you miss the part where Hulk states the stones gave off gamma radiation?

same boat as you man, see

between the 2 scenes I mentioned, the Infinity War one was way more organic and felt natural to the plot. It showed how powerful Scarlett Witch is yet also highlights her weakness. Among many other things.

The Endgame scene was a lazy photo op.

>thinks characters are equivalent and interchangeable
kill yourself ;)

I think the idea here is that it's not just about physical strength, but about will, or emotions, or feelings, or some bullshit. I mean come on, are you really arguing about the power level required to use magic stones in a comic book movie?

But in the 'Avengers take out Thanos' early scene, it was quite close to the 'Carol takes out Thanos on her own' predictions. She did all the heavy work.

The writers have it easy though but you're correct

It's pretty obvious with the Scott Lang scene where he fucks up a pym particle and then only has one test run. That was Captain Marvel's.

>imagine watching capeshit yet misunderstanding key plot points. they didn’t bring gamora back. black widow is dead for good. if they prevent her from dying, their past selves wouldn’t get the soul stone

go watch the movie you low iq brainlet, i aint spoonfeeding plot details to you

He should have his army still to protect him and he should put up a fight even if he was injured

Because theyre women and thats what women do. Women love scenes like this. Holy shit how can you not fucking get it.

He was clearly German, and it's just inconceivable he doesn't know about his friend and teammate's arch war foe.

Yes, especially when the climax of the movie is a regular human being using them.

Because they sacrifice details like that to make the overall store more epic.
It's like watching a large-scale Christopher Nolan movie (TDK/Inception/TDKR/Interstellar/Dunkirk). You watch it and don't think about it too hard and it's a big, epic, mostly satisfying experience. But if you think about it and focus on the tiny details and motivations in the movie, it just makes zero sense
It's the overall big picture that's more important than the tiny details.

I'm not a fan of any of the fan service in the movie regardless if is about female or male or something entirely different. It felt lazy and forced.

I've seen the fucking movie. There's no explanation for all the women grouping up at that one point at that one moment.

Infinity War felt like they avoided that for the most part. This one had characters coming back to life to punch monsters and then showing up in a montage at the end.

It's very obviously a man's version of feminism. An actual feminist angle would be to organically include women storylines and have female characters do more than just punch shit. This was pandering to women (here's the part where you get a moment) and then going back to the rest of the movie. It felt like offering scraps to appease feminists (look at all our female characters we're not sexist) while doing the bare minimum. Nebula and Black Widow had interesting storylines but I guess they weren't confident enough and tried to preempt criticism for mainly focusing on male characters.

I see. It still felt inorganic but I'll shut up about it.

Valkyrie showed no leadership in Ragnarok, though.

It maybe would have been a cool idea for them to team up with Loki, if one of Loki's illusions was somehow responsible for Thanos losing the stones to Stark, i think that would have been fitting since Loki was the big bad of Phase 1

I just like previous bad guys fighting the new big bads, really guilt of mine

It's a movie bro, they know it's forced

This movie.

>arch war foe
To be fair, i don't remember the first Captain America movie, but i'm not sure MCU Red skull counts as archnemesis if he was just in one movie and then got the SUCC.

>He would have to be in disguise pretending to be someone else for this theory to even fit. That and also the fact that Peggy held on to this secret all her life.
Yeah I wonder how the Director of SHIELD kept it secret that her husband was really Steve Rogers in disguise, it's fucking baffling.

it was completely earned, set up from IW, and contributed to the sense of the avengers standing together.
I am sad at the lack of proxima

it didn’t change the timeline. he grew old with carter until she died

The Soul Stone makes no sense to me anyways.
>you have to sacrifice something of equal value/whatever you most love/care about
>in actuality all you have to do is push someone off the cliff
What? How does that work if the thing you care most about isn't a person?

Hulk did not say anything like 'Don't worry, it's only the stones that make new timelines'.

>it's just Cap wearing a fake moustache

It was at that point an alternate timeline Gamora.

I too waste my money to watch capeshit movies i dont enjoy just to complain about it in the internet

Yes but one character did. Try really hard to remember.

Cos Thor has 3 movies under his belt so he has character development and we understand why he's so powerful, Captain Parvel has zero character development and we're just supposed to accept the fact that she's over powered?

oh so you're just retarded then

keep getting angry. It does wonders for my self esteem

The Thanos vs Big Three felt a bit underwhelming, especially with Cap stealing the big spotlight. Tony barely does anything, maybe he just doesn't want to risk it?

The vagina power shot was pretty pandering and it did make me roll my eyes, but it's really no different from that one shot from the first Avenger movie where all the heroes stand together. It was forced, and stupid, but, picture this in comic book format, it's that one page where all the characters stand together.

True, but that could be just going further back in the same timeline.

You must be forgetting who the core audience of the MCU is.

>criticism is founded on your own fan theory

The bald wizard from Dr. Stange said that, Hulk didn't know different timelines would be created if he took the stones.

The 2014 Thanos is not the same as Infinity War Thanos because in 2014 I suppose he hadn't really been through the shit Thanos had gone through up to gathering the Infinity Stones yet. The search and journey changed him a lot mentally. This younger Thanos was way more malevolent in his quest because he looked at it as a chance to get all Infinity Stones at once.

Without the journey he hadn't gained the insight that Infinity War Thanos had.

Reminder that this is the same board that worships Alita shit angel

Which would be creating another timeline.

But this one had only women in it so its unacceptable.

I didn't expect the movie to be this bad. Infinity War was fantastic. I based my expectations on that.

kinda shitty how gamora and black window and stark all get big send offs but fuck loki i guess

>especially with Cap stealing the big spotlight. Tony barely does anything
Because this was Cap's movie, Infinity War was Tony's, in that one it was the opposite, Cap didn't do dick, and Tony had the huge spotlight with his fight against Thanos.

The time travel in the film is just poorly executed. The multi-verse would have been a superior way to bring the characters back. Now shitdicks are arguing over a comic book movies time travel theory and how stupid it is.

yeah alita blows all 5 avengers movies out of the water fag

they took a census. it’s spoken in plain english. fives years have passed. it’s not out of the realm of possibility that they made memorials in that time as they would’ve found the most people they ever would’ve

>a movie about time travel, a literal deus ex machina
>women scenes are forced

keep trying

>but it's really no different from that one shot from the first Avenger movie where all the heroes stand together
But it is. There's no group dynamic between half the people in the EG shot. It doesn't even make sense that they're all in the same place at the same time. I guess yeah things are entirely the same when you remove the context.

The all-girl shot is probably more of a look to the future than to the 11 years previous.

Isn't Thor a literal God? Who is Captain Marvel?

Another brainless idiot who hasnt seen the movie thanos literally ass blasts her into the dirt right after that plus her destroying ships is established, it aint out of nowhere and thor was OP right from the first film

I kinda hated how it cut so quickly as soon as the fight started

>implying the earth wouldn't be balls deep in thermonuclear war let alone making memorials for 3.75 billion people

because it makes no sense. He should grow old in a completely alternative timeline and never show up again.

he ages dude. he waited it out

With Asgardians living in a town on Earth now won't they eventually mix and interbreed with the human population and create superhuman demi gods all over the planet?

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I don't understand how people can even make that comparison. That Avengers 360 shot in the first Avengers movie was so well done. They were all surrounded by the Chitauri and covered each other's back.

That Endgame female photo op scene doesn't make any logistical sense. It pales in comparison. It seems like a sad joke. A lazy parody.

>cap didn't do dick
>was one of the few avengers to actually incapacitate thanos
???

You're the one removing the context though, in the first Avengers movie they are all fighting enemies in different places, but they all end up standing the same place just for that one shot to happen.
In this one, the context is that they're passing the gauntlet from one person to another so they can get it to Antman, and it's Captain Marvel's turn to grab the gauntlet, so as many heroes as possible get there to help her get it to Antman, because thankfully, Captain Marvel can't do it alone.
The stupid and pandering part is that all the heroes that showed up happened to have vaginas.

It works on a physical level. It fucked Thanos up, but he lived. Hulk is only hurt a bit because of muh gamma, and Tony dies. That he lived for a couple minutes doesn't mean anything.

He felt more benevolent in IW, but I guess in EG, he realized that his plan ultimately fails and that being benevolent doesn't work. So he'll have to use force.

it's literally "turn off your brain, the film". Infinity War is a sci-fi masterpiece compared to that film.

wanna explain to us how the nukes would be flying sherlock?

The context is that its the final battle and they need a good shot to pander to their audience. It isnt that hard to understand.

he is a bad guy. you’re not supposed to agree with his motives which are soaked in blood

What, did you misread that i was talking about Infinity War in that line? Because in IW he grabbed Thanos's hand and then Thanos punched him and knocked him out.

Oh I forgot half the people that ride inside the nukes and peddle them to their destination would be dead, you're right. Fucking retard

That's not how European villages work, user. They only breed with each other and never leave their borders because it takes an entire day by road.

10/10

The last fight shouldn't even have all those people. It wasn't necessary, just Thanos and his minions vs The Avengers would be more fun to watch

I guess they wanted a scene with everyone, but they already done that in Infinity War

I mean, I considered that too. I hope they grow their population back. A fuckton of Asgardians died in between Ragnarok and Infinity War.

jesus christ you're an idiot, im asking why the fuck people would nuke each other?

Are all Asgardian superhuman? Even Thor friends aren't that strong when compared to some of the human heroes, like, Black Widow and Hawkeye would probably wipe the floor with Thor's friends.

kek

that was epic though, most of the film wasn't good but at least this was entertaining.

Which was never true of Peggy before. Altered timeline.

>i guess they wanted a scene with everyone
Wow your smart

I did think that was disappointing, it would've been better if the fight with Thanos had been more personal, but they couldn't resist shoving in a million extras and a million cgi monsters. At best they should've kept the fights separate like in Infinity War, where the real battle happened in Titan between Thanos and Tony and friends, while the extras killed each other in Earth. But here it's just one big clusterfuck.

The average Asgardian isn't as strong as Thor but they are strong enough to kick a car and send it skidding across a road if Sif is any indication. Plus they live for thousands of years. They may also have latent magic capabilities but that's just speculation on my part.

Like it may be easier for them to learn it.

There are different tiers of Asgardians. The regular Asgardians are probably stronger than Humans but not by much. (Around Captain America level of strength)

Then there are soldiers, warriors, and royalty that scale up in power level exponentially.

they are all long lived so its unlikely they would have human partners

>tfw Black order doesn't get redeemed in this movie
>in fact they die incredibly faster and simpler deaths
Really tore me up inside.

So you're telling me about 10 asgardians could solo thanos?

Ancient One showed why HER timeline could get fucked, yes, but Hulk already knew about the timeline stuff.
Are anons REALLY saying here that the logic of this movie is that removing the stones can make new timelines, but that NO other changes will do anything? In that case, Tony could've said 'Hi, Dad'.

she got dusted

it’s one memorial site in san francisco for SF residents

Well not really. Captain America is weak as fuck compared to Thanos. He got buffed in this movie because he was able to wield Mjolnnir. Regular Asgardians are probably not worthy.

Hulk said something to the effect of "if you travel from the present to the past, the past becomes your present, and the present from which you traveled to your past is now the past" or something like that, so in other words, yeah, Tony could've said "hi dad", nothing would've changed because Tony had already been born. That's why WarMachine(Or Antman?) said "so you're telling me Back to the Future is bullshit?"

The time travel in this film is completely retarded, and will the magic mumbo jumbo that happens in that universe the writers still found a way to write themselves into a corner.

>1
Agreed, is filler but is meant as a bridge to give Nebula a reason to stay in Earth rather than fucking off to space
>2
Not a true complaint.
>3
Both Rocket and Nebula have nowhere to go, so it makes sense to stay there. Maybe Rcoket could have gone to Xandar, see it was rekt, and came back.
>4
When you're a father you do desperate things, I would have done exactly the same.
>5
Agreed, fun character but having the merging off-screen sucks.
>6
They would also have to deal with 5-gemmed Thanos again and it wouldn't be a sure win given that the Wakanda battle heroes were greater in number and they lost. The safest option seemed like the BNY.
>7
Sorcerers only deal with sorcery shit, this was stablished in Strange's movie. Chitauri weren't sorcery at all.
>8
The Tesseract teleported Red Skull to Vorkmir so it CAN be used for teleportation as long as it holds the Space Stone itself. Also Loki knew how to handle it since Thanos told him how, otherwise he wouldn't had stolen it from Asgard's Vault in Thor3 without being killed.
>9
Technicisms, but Hawkeye letting go of Widow could be interpreted as "sacrifice"
>10
Time Travel in the movie sans for Cap's ending works enterely using alternate tiemlines. If they brought back Widow it wouldn't be THEIR Widow but an alternate timeline's one. OG Widow is dead for good. Past Gamora isn't OG Gamora either.
>11
She said that she would be fixing the chaos caused by the snap in other planets since she's the only one who could do it, but otherwise yes, she returning to the exact final battle was pretty convenient.
>12
Agreed. Don't have anything against women unlike most of the /pol/shitters here on/tv/, but the scene WAS blatant pandering.
>13
Good point. But we don't know jackshit about were MCU pegasi come from, so we don't know if they were originally from Asgard or if she could have grabbed one from other of the Nine-Realms.

>Cont.

>>it has to be tough being this much of a brainlet. jesus

We never saw that. They would have shown her getting dusted in the movie if that really did happen.

YES. The only way this makes sense is that he did live a life in an alternate timeline, then, as said by other anons, zapped to that bench like a few minutes before the others got there, just for dramatic effect.

yes but that would have fucked with things in his father's timeline, and so Captain doing whatever in the past would have fucked with things too and he shouldn't show up on that bench no matter what.

Cap wielding Mjolnir was kino but too shortlived. It should've been a situation where Thanos's army bails him out from getting stomped, and then gaining the upper hand. It felt really fucking awkward that he finally has this badass moment that people have been talking about for years, and it lasts all of 15 seconds.

Gamora meets Space Jesus Adam Warlock.

Quill gets Cucked.

yeah, I don't know why they didn't do it like that. Honestly that whole scene felt like an afterthough, like it was shot separated from the rest and wasn't supposed to be in the film.

if it didn’t have any major alterations like having children then it is fine

>but they already done that in Infinity War
No they didn't. Several main characters were apart from the masses on Titan.

>that scene where cap calls mjolnir to his hand
>thor smiles
>"I knew it."

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Die

I have a hard time disagreeing with you because i also feel that's what should've happened, but the movie explicitly says that's not how it works. In the end it's the same with any time travel movie, you can argue about it until the end of time, people still do it about Back to the Future and Terminator.

Arbitrary distinction. Butterfly effect means Cap being there and her life changing could have many other effects.

The moments when Thor and Scarlet Witch almost owned Thanos were pretty kino to be honest, especially how Scarlet Witch was looking all spooky as she crushed the life out of him and how Thor went full Thor with the glowing eyes and full beard.

She'd never even lived through the dusting time.

>Cont

>14
Look as the screen as if were the face of an oponent you were battling for a while now and snap your fingers without looking at your hand, being fucking sure you still have the stones in it. Can't see the back of your hand, don't you? Thanos neither.
>15
As other threads have already said, Cap's time traveling is the only thing that sends him back further to the past without leaving the OG timeline because for those past 22 movies there always were two Caps at the same: one frozen in the ice, and EG Cap, who married secretly to him and it means that Cap was always that mysterious "secret husband" Peggy alluded to. Literaly nobody in-universe knew about this sans for EG Cap and Peggy.

I assume EG Cap returned when past Cap was still frozen, married to Peggy and made her swore secrecy telling her all the events in the future and all the things he would have to do (or not do) to keep the timeline intact, therefore maintaining an stable past loop. I could elaborate on this if you wish. Peggy then died and EGCap simply waited on the place he once departed back to the past to pass the mantle to Sam before he kicks the bucket, he's over 100 years by then.

I know I know, it's fucking dumb. It is. But it works. I'm really sure this is the part most audiences will be confused at, and also I fucking know that the Russos will come afterwards to try to explain it better.

>16
Pym particles are as magical as Stark's nanotech.

>17
Also not a true complainment.

Also you're a total faggot for not understanding a kid's movie.

Must have been a reshoot.

The thing then is, though, that it renders Tony being careful and all the other bits like that completely pointless. Like how they got Hulk to act savage, and how Cap avoided Peggy in the office.

you clearly need everything spoonfed to you. that was the point of thanos and his army from the other timeline getting dusted as she was a part of

Spooky

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the alternate gamora jesus christ watch the movie
did you even listen to how the time travel works in the film?

Tony was just being careful because it was a heist. Hulk was just fucking about. Cap didn't even avoid Peggy, he was staring her right in the face.

>and it lasts all of 15 seconds.
Huh? He kept the hammer for a lot of the battle after that.

I hope the mod enforcing this spoiler shit is shit canned. Not only is this annoying, but it's massively slowing down reading speed.
Fucking loser.

I just took it as them not wanting to get into an unnecessary fights, or they could've gotten arrested by Shield or the Avengers, and then they would've been stuck and unable to return, or would've lost their chance to steal the stones. And Cap didn't really avoid her, he was staring right at her though the window.
You also forgot that Thor met with his mom and his mom flat out said "oh you're from the future, i know because i'm a witch, come here my son let's chat"

> Pym particles are as magical as Stark's nanotech.

They made it a pretty huge point in the movie that the amount of Pym particles they have is very limited and they can only use it for a few trips.

Secondly Thanos and his army didn't even have the Quantum Suits or palm-attached device so how did they even time travel. It makes no fucking sense whatsoever.

But he doesn't really do much with it. After the scuffle with Thanos and getting beat down, it's just relegated to a comic relief moment where Thor trades it for Mjolnir because it's the little one, and throwing it at Spiderman. For such a big moment I wanted more payoff.

Thanos use the pym particles to make a pym field around his ship, you can tell because it gets bigger when it appears.

Nah, it breaks its own previous rule(s). UNLESS Cap avoided showing up after the expected 5 seconds (as an old guy) just for shits and giggles.

The fuck are you talking about? Yea Forums X let's you see spoilers automatically. Fucking reddiatrd.

What I liked:
The Pacing, they could literally make the movie 6 hours long and I would sit thru it like nothing
The whole interaction between Thor and his mom was honestly really sweet, I like that part.
The straight up butchering of thanos 5 minutes in caught me by surprise
And the ending fight scene was pretty epic
Also Cap just retireng in the past caught me off guard

Things I did not like:
There's like a gorillion plot holes as OP pointed out, also with Hank back alive they could easily get Tony back with new pim particles
All the pandering, there was like 4 girls in the cinema and a billion guys, shit like the power shot with all girls just feel unnatural and glued on

Also enjoy Captain Afro-America

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>trades it for Mjolnir

Meant Stormbreaker

The alternate Gamora was from 2014, before the dusting ever happened, so she could never have been dusted.

>Captain AfroAmerica
>not pic related

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They took the stuff from Nebula, and unless i misunderstood something, i thought they had extras, Antman lost one of his extras on accident when they were in the Avenger's hq. Or maybe Thanos replicated it? Or didn't need ti because Nebula hacked the stuff to bring him and his ship to the future? That's a pretty big plot hole otherwise though.

I just assumed he was sitting there the entire time and they just noticed him when they were looking around for Cap.

Then why is Quill trying to locate her at the end? And not shown watching her die?

The entire "time travel juice" thing makes no sense and is only used to make fake suspense.

No he would have had to have just teleported in from an alternate timeline as soon as the other left. If he didn't and he was there all along this breaks the time travel rules in the movie

>did you even listen to how the time travel works in the film?
Hulk says you won't change the present by fucking about in the past, but that doesn't stop small changes in that past leading to much bigger changes in the new timeline.

This movie has so many plotholes that I cannot imagine how Kevin Feige would approve the final cut of this terrible film. Does he just not care anymore? Is Infinity War the peak of the MCU? Is it all downhill from here?

>didn't even have the Quantum Suits or palm-attached device so how did they even time travel.
Nebula set the machine for them. Clearly shown.

When they timetravel they immediately create another timeline. They can't actually timetravel within their own timeline which is really interesting and confusing when old captain america shows up

The entire movie's point was that Plotholes don't do anything since the infinity stones are still intact.

You saw him using the lightning effects, and doing the throw and retrieve. It was a fair bit more than I expected.

He went to fuck lolis and take MDMA until all that shit blew over

So its just that easy huh? Press a few buttons on the time machine and then boom, Thanos and his army is in the present. LOL
And people give the DCEU shit about their plot.

>sitting there the entire time
But why? They were expecting him, on the machine. Why did he make them worry?
I guess maybe he can't stand well any more.

Go watch the scene, retard. It's fucking atrocious.

The Timeline for the avengers never changes, it's a straight line, a different timeline is only created when you remove an infinity stone, and it does not affect the avenger's timeline, it creates a new one for the pasts that they visited. Bald Wizard flat out says this, and even visually explains this using magic, the only way to avoid this is to return the stones to that precise moment in time.
As for Captain America, he would've just appeared there in the bench as an old man the moment he left.

ALL MCU characters joining the last battle, men, women, aliens, trees, talking animals... entire cinema is cheering. No one gives a fuck what gender they are

All female MCU characters group cos muh vagengers.. entire cinema is tutting, groaning or sighing and shaking their heads, not a single cheer, and there were plenty of women in the audience too

They need Pym particles for shrinking small enough to access the quantum realm.

We've been through 10 years of this shit:
JUST BECAUSE IT'S IN THE COMICS DOESN'T MEAN IT'S IN THE MOVIES

don't be a faggot, user. It's retarded that she's there.
>hey baby girl, I know your dad is fighting for his life and he has a decade of experience, but instead of making sure you have a mother, I'll go risk both of us dying!

He just wanted to make it very dramatic, he spent a long time sitting there thinking "i hope they notice me soon"

Ok, but that's pretty stupid.

I'm debating whether to see the movie again in a few hours. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. A lot of reviews says the movie is amazing, perfect and so on.

I don't understand how people can watch this movie and think its just as good or better than Infinity War.

The whole plot of the movie is based on this being possible.

Congrats user, you cracked the code. That's why for decades people have been arguing about time travel in every movie that has it, because it makes no sense.

>When they timetravel they immediately create another timeline
I know. But a small change in THAT timeline could still lead to big changes later on in THAT timeline.

This was misinterpreted by the audience
It was actually the best he could do at the time to give the Nazi salute, since he was busy with the water thingy
Stark shrugged off this blatant and misplaced racism to focus on the task at hand

It's based on it being possible if:
1) You are wearing the Quantum Realm suit
2) You have enough Pym Particles

actually i bet he probably teleported on to the set of his new Disney+ tv series

>a different timeline is only created when you remove an infinity stone
This is just retarded, and not actually said in the film. Yes, Ancient One points out her timeline will be fucked without the time stone, but that's because it's a significant change, not because it's one of the maguffins and has its own separate rules.

In the original cut of the movie he made the Ok sign, they had to use CGI to replace his hand and they used the entire budget for Captain Marvel's scenes to CGI Strange's hand.
Benedict Cucumberbash isn't the hero we deserve, but he is the one we need.

It's an alternate timeline. He came back with Pym particles, and brought a new shield with him

Jet fuel can melt patriarchies

Marvel's female characters (except Carol) are all team characters, and put bluntly, this means they are, more often than not, sidekicks.

So, Marvel tries to compensate for this with token moments to virtue signal.

Yet, at the end, Tony gets a funeral, while Natasha doesn't....because like most Marvel females she is a sidekick.

This. The only way old cap exists in the main timeline is if he smoked a fat doobie as he watched his friends die in a different timeline while getting a blowjob and them fucking off back over to the main one at some point.

Marvel's female characters (except Carol) are all team characters, and put bluntly, this means they are, more often than not, sidekicks.

So, Marvel tries to compensate for this with token moments to virtue signal.

Yet, at the end, Tony gets a funeral, while Natasha doesn't....because like most Marvel females she is a sidekick.

OK, you almost have something there. But needing more Pym particles for a bigger object seems a bit silly when the whole point is changing sizes. And I suppose the ship's shields are sufficient for surviving the trip.

It's a different Gamora. A person from a different timeline is an entirely different character.

The original one is dead.

I gotta admit, i felt something when Tony died.

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So Thanos just sprinkled some of that Pym Particle juice on his ship and was somehow able to travel to the main timeline with the help of evil Nebula pressing a few buttons on the time machine

.....k

At no point do we see that the pym particles need to be sprinkled on anything, they just had them on their person.

He understands. People are stupid and don't have his conviction to solve problems.

Would the movie had been better without Thanos? With no villain? The part i enjoyed the least was the big fight.

He's smart enough to not interfere.

Yes, somehow magically thano's ship and his entire army came through time even though that was explained to be possible without stark's special watch/suits

Only retards who rely on shitty dubs think Goku in Super changed.

Elder God Tier.

>Hulk loses his arm
He burns it badly but keeps it, he's got it in a brace at Tony's funeral.

I hope she gets to do more shit in future movies, one of the few comic books storylines i've read was House of M, so i always liked Scarlet Witch.