You go I stay

I'd rather not stay on a polynesian picture puzzle diorama paradise

Reminder that Mansley was probably executed shortly after. Either that or he's never seeing the light of day again. Like, the guy disobeyed orders from a general and almost nuked populated american soil in the middle of the cold war.

>snaps Hogarth's neck
>SU PER MAN

Imagine the documentary and the eventual interview with him 20 years later.

I don’t usually stand behind harsh punishments, but he kinda deserves it. That was a damn big fuckup and he put a whole lot of people and property in very serious danger.

Doesn't help that as soon he realizes his fuckup, he denounces his country and tries to escape in that jeep. The fact that the movie never shows or mentions his fate suggests that it's not going to be a family friendly fate.

I can't believe Mansley thought duck and cover would save them.

It was nice to have something different but the underlying sjw preaching was obnoxious which means over time it was bound to get worse. Back then people still hated libtards.

He also tosses the driver straight out of the jeep instead of pushing him into the passenger seat, making absolutely no attempt to make even the least amount of effort to try to save anyone with him as he’s trying to flee to safety. I kinda think the bigger reason he didn’t just try to plow through the row of people right in front of him was because he knew it’d slow him down.

He's gonna rot in jail. Even for him murder is a bit too far.

He was in a high panicked state and was clearly out of his mind with fear. I mean, he shot a nuclear missile to a target that was only a couple of feet away from him because somebody looked at him funny. He would do literally anything at that point if he thought it’d grant him even the least chance of survival.

Also this was an era where some people still hadn’t gotten it through their heads just how powerful a nuclear bomb even was. A big part of the whole point of the duck and cover program was just to keep people believing the method could possibly even work.

Same way we’re still doing school shooter drills in schools. They won’t actually work if a shooter actually decides they want to try to kill some people- we only do them to try to make people feel more secure, but instead wind up making them feel less secure. It’s like we learned nothing.

>murder

They don't call it that as long as a guy in a uniform does it and all the necessary paperwork has been filled.

>Proceeds to punt him into space

>Same way we’re still doing school shooter drills in schools. They won’t actually work if a shooter actually decides they want to try to kill some people- we only do them to try to make people feel more secure, but instead wind up making them feel less secure. It’s like we learned nothing.

Arming the teachers would work but people start whining when you suggest it.

I never trusted my teachers to grade my math tests properly. Would you have trusted yours with your life?

user, "more guns" can't be your answer to everything.

I'm okay with that.

captain Marvel

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You do realize that people have done far worse and escaped any punishment.

The school faculty is responsible for the safety of students when they're on school grounds, no?

Well it's either that or get rid of guns, and you won't get rid of guns. You can make them illegal but America is too big a country to actually get rid of all the guns.

was it really a nuke? I don't think any General ever would be able to order an nuclear attack without authorization from the White House.

WHERE'S THE GIANT MANSLEY?

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We do [security measure] to make people feel safer, but wind up making them feel less safe

Arming schoolteachers is not the solution to this problem.

I think he did have authorization from the White House.

Fuck I meant to greentext that first line.

oh but it can
"and if that don't work, use more gun"

No following.

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Who shoved him Man of Steel?

That teacher would end up being the school shooter.

Have you ever tried to teach kids? Their animals.

Do you think the robot experience would make Hogarth realize he's gay later on?

>literally good animation dying so we can have one last wholesome generation
I-it's up to us to live up to his sacrifice user. He can be reformed, rebuilt and the wholesome can return. We let the commies he was falsely attributed to win.

Hogarth showed the giant Action Comics vol 1 #188 from January 1954. It's considered late Golden Age. I'm kind of curious about what if the giant had gotten a chance to read Silver Age superdickery comics and take their Superman as his rolemodel.

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>t. Literal faggot who doesn't understand heroism
Have fun with your morally gray hedonism you scum.

Those are completely different skills.

>letting kids die is the answer
Liberals couldn't even properly condemn the sheriffs for not going in to save those kids. You people are scum. Less guns isn't a reality stop smoking dope.

Not on US soil.

>their animals
Ironic.

>I don't think any General ever would be able to order an nuclear attack without authorization from the White House.

That is the case today, post-Cold War. Not back then, a lot was left to the discretion of the local commander.

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Hogarth deserved the same fate

>1996
DAMN SON!

Who has the picture of him yeeting Hogarth into the missile?

>>Arming the teachers would work
FUCK.
THAT.
NOISE.
Cops are armed because they are trained, as a career, on the proper use of firearms. They do training as to when to use a gun, how to use it properly, and WHEN TO USE A FUCKING GUN. This is their whole career. If they fuck it up, someone is likely dead, they might see prison time, there might be riots (If it's white cop/black target), but their career is basically over unless it was done 10000% BY THE BOOK. Soldiers are trained in the proper use of force, and when to not shoot children. Both of these careers carry a likelihood of PTSD and other mental illnesses, just due to the stress of the job.
Teachers are trained with an entirely different skill set. They get a masters' degree in teaching. This is their career training. They are not trained to be cops, or soldiers, or surgeons, or lawyers, or plumbers. You're asking that teachers now take on the training and responsibilities of a soldier or a cop, while still getting a Master's of Ed., and while still being under helicopter parent scrutiny about how well and nicely they teach their Little Angels algebra. All for 40 grand a year, because there's no fucking way they'll pay teachers more for this training.
Also, as a teacher, I've had stuff stolen from my desk, and I've had my pocket picked. If there was a gun in my desk, or my pocket, well....

COME ON TAKE ME AWAY
COME ON TAKE ME AWAY

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>they are trained, as a career, on the proper use of firearms
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Great, now I'm envisioning Mansley hulking out to giant size and fighting the Iron Giant.

>they might see prison time
Nearly impossible.

>but their career is basically over unless it was done 10000% BY THE BOOK
Couldn't be more untrue. Getting a DUI is worse for them.

>They get a masters' degree in teaching.
Almost never

>You're asking that teachers now take on the training and responsibilities
Not one proposal says this. They say they CAN be armed not need to be trained.

>All for 40 grand a year, because there's no fucking way they'll pay teachers more for this training.
They only work half of the year, that's 80K for someone who works full time. (Inb4 side jobs, idgaf that isn't the discussion)

>Also, as a teacher, I've had stuff stolen from my desk, and I've had my pocket picked. If there was a gun in my desk, or my pocket, well....
I legit hope you one day get arrested for saying shit like this you grimy dyke.

You really shouldn't be teaching children, you histrionic cunt.

>the time a school had an armed security guard, and during a shooting he just got into a shootout with the police because they

>the time a teacher had a gun in his desk, and a student took it while he was in the bathroom

people are predominantly retards, and adding more retards with guns into a situation just makes things worse

Like pottery

>I'm a teacher, believe me: I'd kill kids
Hope the Feds come find you before you do something dangerous. You sound unhinged.

This is statistically untrue. Almost every mass shooting is ended by a different shooter or the addition of one to the situation (the arrival of cops queuing suicide).

I don't know why people ignore this.

>samefagging because you misread "kids would steal the gun from a teacher's desk" as "teacher would shoot kids for stealing pens from their desk"

>everyone who disagrees is a samefag
Pathetic

Don't you have a class to teach faggot?

What would have happened if Hogarth showed the Iron Giant Superman: Red Son instead?

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Im the second one, dyke. Go live out your fantasies elsewhere.

Imagine living in a country filled to the gills with firearms and being ignorant on their use. Imagine raising your family to be ignorant of their use. Good God.

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Maybe influential people with important connections.
But Mansley was a low-run agent sent to report on a podunk town. He does not have friends in high places.

Imagine discussing politics on a fucking Iron Giant cartoon thread

It has nothing to do with politics, it's common fucking sense.

Armageddon

Could Hogarth reasonably become a communist after this and with the connection he has with Dean?

>The fact that the movie never shows or mentions his fate suggests that it's not going to be a family friendly fate.
I and my siblings used to joke about the ending:
>Hey, Hogarth. the general sent this to you. [Gives him a small package]
>What is it?
>He said it was the only part recovered. He thought you should have it.
>[Hogarth opens it up. It's Kent's pipe.]
>I miss him...

Superman.......Booom

The histrionic dyke "teacher" derailed the thread because she saw a thing she disagreed with.

That was needlessly hostile

Get over yourself

WHERE'S THE MAN, GIANTSLEY

Deep, man.

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I like how you assume that everyone that disagrees with your views fits into the same category. What a caveman you are.

I don't think it's deep at all. The definition of murder involves an illegal killing specifically.

Stop before you both get banned for shitting up this thread

Are you for real?

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Hey, it's understandable that a career military expert could make that call without having to check with the glad-handing figurehead back in D.C.

Mansley is no Harry S Truman

>I don't know why people ignore this.
People care about their narrative, not about facts.

MAN THE GIANT, WHERE'S LEY?

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WHERE'S MANSLEY, THE GIANT?

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Made this in paint net awhile back, could clean in up in Photoshop

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Yes, that's what I was getting at. The gesture in the pic indicates sarcasm.

I laughed.

How does one jerk off sarcastically?

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This is the good ending

Not the teacher user here, but I apologize for being the other user that brought up school shootings. I was just trying to mention a modern topical equivalent to the red scare themes of the film.

Anyone else remember when CN had a massive Marathon for this movie for about a week?

on yo mama that's how

He literally thought that he could outrun a nuke in a jeep. He was obviously out of his mind at that moment.

They show a bunch of guys approaching the president after the general announces red code, so it's possible.

user, read it again, slowly

i read that as /ˈhɑst(ə)l/ not /'ˋhɑstḷ/ LOL

will Yea Forums ever forgive Mansley? I mean, he was doing the right thing. as far as we know the giants were the most dangerous things out there, destroying and killing everything, the iron giant merely got his past directives and memories erased when he crashed, if not he would have been turning people to crisps left and right.

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Like what?
He launched a nuclear warhead during the cold war. A time in which both sides could detect them, but without all information. One other official who woldn't have known about it could have assumed it was an attack and retaliated.

Damn I never thought of that. If that were the case he could’ve destroyed the world instead of just Maine.

Ugh, fucking CalArts style!

I’m Superman lol
*blows up*

Was this in the early 2000s? I think I remember that desu senpai

The Iron Giant is a canon character in Superman

Where's the giant, Mansley?
We want that giant, Mansley...
The kid said you were good for it...
WHERE'S THE FUCKING GIANT, SHITHEAD?!!

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Now I want to see the awful nightmare that would the Iron Giant in CalArts style

Yeah the dudes either heading straight for the chair or an off the book prison sight. Although if they even bothered with a trial it would pretty funny to see

Big guy

*Giant tosses Hogarth into space, Hogarth screams as he flies up at escape velocity until slamming into the missile which detonates*

Nixon pardoned him 15 years later.

>I don't think any General ever would be able to order an nuclear attack without authorization from the White House.
They can't. At no point did the White House not assert political control over the weapons. Only during a short period of roughly 10 years could a local commander *technically* use their nuclear weapons due to the lack of PAL links.

This is specifically for submarines, but also firing authority has always remained with the president. SSBN (nuclear submarines) play a very specific role that requires the assertion of positive control because they need to follow the OPLAN (which can vary based on a crisis) specified by the president.

>One other official who woldn't have known about it could have assumed it was an attack and retaliated.
Not necessarily.

Those weapons could not have been launched without Strategic Air Command knowing and issuing the launch order.

It is the definition of CalArts. That's where it comes from. John K made the term up specifically because of Iron Giant.

>I kinda think the bigger reason he didn’t just try to plow through the row of people right in front of him was because he knew it’d slow him down

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youtu.be/Dwkk2rhynq0
>I could use a pedicure
Who else cried?

>thousands of civilians including the kid almost got fucking nuked

Holy shit that was fucking dark for a kids movie.

Who else would give Mansley a not guilty charge

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Based.

STFU

>Like what?
Like Trumbp raping me and getting away with it

Treason isn't really the same but there's precedence for executing people over this kind of subterfuge.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg

I love you, user.

It's down there somewhere. Let me take another look.

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