Is this franchise REALLY good? From what I hear from people...

Is this franchise REALLY good? From what I hear from people, it seems that there's only 1-2 actual good movies in the entire saga, with a disproportionate number of mediocre and garbage movies. Is it all the hype?

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The Connery films are genuinely good and a fascinating time capsule of how the action film has evolved, but the first two are fairly slow due to low budgets. I personally thought Thunderball was the best Connery movie
Roger Moore's run goes full off the deep-end with the camp and are basically adult cartoons with lots of quips and silly action, but there's some genuinely good car chases due to them trying to ape the success of Hal Needam movies
The Timothy Dalton films are like Daniel Craig before Daniel Craig - they tone down 90% of the camp and are fairly serious action movies, but there's still a bit of tongue in cheek to it. Both his movies are good
Brosnan literally only had one good movie - Goldeneye - and the rest of his steadily got worse and worse
Casino Royale was the best Craig movie, Quantum of Solace got shoah'd by the writer's strike and a shitty director, Skyfall was a good as a Connery throwback, and Spectre tried to be a Roger Moore throwback and was fucking terrible

I loved these movies when I was a kid just for all the gadgets and the sort of fantastical element of all the movies. 13 me wanted nothing more than to be James Bond. It's hard for me to recommend them on an objective basis, since I might just be blinded by nostalgia, but I love the franchise. There's some films that are legitimately cheesy and cornball, and others that are more serious. Check out the Connery ones first and work your way from there. From Russia With Love and Goldfinger are legitimately great movies, I think.

theyre pretty terrible but i have nostalgia for them because i loved them as a kid

It depends on how interested you are in an escapist fantasy where a handsome man saves the free world while fucking every woman in his path and makes one-liners. Also you should be able to tolerate a healthy amount of camp. If that sounds dumb to you, just watch the Craig films. If it sounds awesome, watch everything except for the Craig films.

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Only if you follow this rankings.

Top 007 Tier
>Dr. No
>From Russia With Love
>Goldfinger
>The Spy Who Loved Me
>OHMSS
>Licence To Kill
>Casino Royale (2006)

Good Tier
>You Only Live Twice
>Live and Let Die
>The Living Daylights
>Goldeneye
>Skyfall

Mediocre/Average Tier
>Thunderball
>Man With the Golden Gun
>For Your Eyes Only
>World is Not Enough

Camp/Fun/Shit Tier
>Diamonds are Forever
>Moonraker
>Octopussy
>View to A Kill
>Quantum of Solace
>Spectre

Just Shit Tier
>Tomorrow Never Dies

Die Another Day Tier
>Die Another Day

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What a basic bitch ranking

Honestly, I'd say there are plenty of good movies in the franchise. Even at worst, the overwhelming majority of them were still entertaining.

He says as cries while watching his DAD DVD for the hundredth time.

Your ranking sucks. OHMSS was a terrible movie that only contrarians shill for.

Just bump The World Is Not Enough up a tier and you've got a solid ranking

Nice try. Your ranking reads like someone who looked up their IMDB ratings instead of forming their own opinion. Also Casino Royale is overrated shit

I've watched them all multiple times. Let's see your ranking now.

The Roger Moore and Brosnan ones were the best.

God-tier:
Dr. No
From Russia with Love
OHMSS
Live and Let Die
The Man With the Golden Gun
Licence to Kill

High tier:
You Only Live Twice
The Spy Who Loved Me
For Your Eyes Only
Octopussy
A View to a Kill

Mid tier:
Goldfinger
Thunderball
Diamonds Are Forever
Goldeneye
The World is Not Enough

Low tier:
Moonraker
The Living Daylights
Tomorrow Never Dies
Die Another Day
Quantum of Solace

Shit tier:
Casino Royale
Skyfall
Spectre

Only have the nostalgia of growing up with brosnan ones, I'd watch the older shits if they were on TV sometimes but to be honest James Bond just never really did it for me. Just filler shit

Not even that much difference, you just really dislike the Daniel Craig films, which is fair enough.

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>Quantum of Solace above Casino Royale
You are under arrest.

Disregard this post

How fucking old are you

Watched the first 4 or 5 but the only one I liked was Goldfinger so I said fuck it. Go and watch the Bourne trilogy.

casino royale is supposed to be one of the best ones and i thought it was pretty forgettable. dont feel like ive missed anything having not seen any other bond films. you've probably gotten the gist of the whole franchise through pop culture references, parodies, vidya, etc by now. probably watch it if you're into action stunts and shit but otherwise meh just skip it all and watch more brie larson interviews

Kill yourself zoomer cock sucker

>putting OHMSS anywhere above shit tier

what movie?

I think moonraker is my favourite just for how ridiculously camp and over the top it is.

Casino royale pretty good if you want serious.

it's funny because as a kid i thought these were all serious action movies. then as an edgy teenager I thought they were just shit. now I like them because they don't even take themselves seriously.

All Connery films are top tier. Goldeneye is top tier as well. The others vary in quality from good to shite

Eh, I didn't think Thunderball and Diamonds are Forever were that great.

I'll give you Diamonds are Forever as not that great, but Thunderball is absolutely classic.

90s born queer shut the fuck up

I dunno...it felt like rather a lot of time was spent in Florida. The gadgets were okay. But, "we have a nuke and we're gonna blow you up" is a bit generic.

I was born in the 80's cunt

It's generic because it's been done to death since, but back then it was pretty neat. Also Florida is reasonably exotic for non-burgers.

Don't lie to me you feminised little faggot

I used to work for a video store owner who described the Bond franchise as "father to son movies".

>From Russia With Love and Goldfinger are legitimately great movies, I think.
THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST

>Lazenby fucked more in one movie than Moore did in seven

Nice

zoomers can't understand stuff like that because they're all nigger tier human garbage

>t. plebian

Thunderball takes place in Florida?

>Danielovitch Craigsky is the most long-lived bond ever
J U S T

No wait you mixed me up you cunt, Thunderball is Bahamas, the one with Timothy Dalton is Florida keys!

Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's in Miami much of, if not most of the movie.

Watch the Brosnan and Craig films. The old ones are boring and a waste of time.

see
You're thinking of that other one with Timothy Dalton. The one where Felix Leiter gets eaten by sharks.

Oh right, they were gonna nuke Miami.

>old ones are boring
Spotted the hole

See, I got super confused because I could never remember where the fuck Thunderball actually takes place and always just thought of it as some vaguely tropical location, but I don't think Florida is quite THAT exotic. The fact that the villain is Italian always throws me off, too.

Why does everyone here have such a boner for Dr.No? It's so poorly paced.

It says "average per film", not "total"

Heh, you zoomies.

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Probably because it's one of the handful of pre-Craig Bond movies that actually tries to take itself seriously?

You threw me off because I 'membered one bond was in Florida. But now it comes back to me, how Bond explicitly mentions that he wants to be sent to Nassau. And iirc they actually shot with Connery in Nassau.

That’s Foo Fighters

I mean it's still not that exotic. Most of that movie was spent in the Florida/Carribean boomer retirement home region of the world.

why are all zoomers nigger tier human garbage?

>Bahamas in the 1960s isn't exotic
oh come on it's pretty neat
not as cool as Japan in the 1960s in that other Connery kino, but still good

>'membered
I hope you get cancer you fucking faggot

I just feel that they could have spent more time elsewhere instead of sinking so much time into THAT area. Hell, why not threaten to nuke some West German city and claim that it would pave the way for a Soviet onslaught.

rude

OLD GOOD , NEW BAD

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Machinery is a lot like that.

The shark gun death in live and let die still fucking kills me every time

Kill yourself reddit nigger

Connery's movies seem to fall into the trappings of the popular morality of the 60s sexual revolution, and are thus very derogatory to the portrayal of women and the sexual nature of man. Bimbos only there as eyecandy, objectified and sexualised like a piece of meat (at their own consent); men philandering and adulterous, treating women no better than mere sex-holes and ogling-material. Moore's Bond isn't much better. Boomer degeneracy and a product of a bygone era that has no relevance or bearing to good morality or righteous gender-relations. Utterly disrespectful to women, and utterly unbecoming of men. A testament to the burgeoning sexual degeneracy of the 60s-70s.

I can't comment on Lazenby or Dalton. Brosnan's films after Goldeneye (his only decent Bond movie) were terrible, and Craig's serious edgy grimdark action flicks fail to capture the 'spirit' of Bond as spy dramas.

no u

Top Tier: The books
Meh Tier: Never Say Never Again, Casino Royale (1961 original)
Shit Tier: All the Broccoli abominations.

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Lazenby’s is genuinely romantic and touching (though obviously old-fashioned). Probably the only Bond movie to be so.

We're reaching new levels of contrarianism here. What next?
>God Tier: Austin Powers trilogy

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>Lazenby's Bond is the only good one
All my life, I had been led to believe the opposite. What a mad, crazy world in which we live.

Don’t feel too bad about it, that’s a common misconception.

probably because the lazemby movie is actually shit

Tarantino once said that he would like to direct the remake of Cassino Royale but they didn't allow him. The remake ended up being a very good movie so no one talked about this anymore.

What if we give him Bond?

it depends, he basically makes only comedies now but if he tried to do something different for once I bet it would work

This. Only contrarians say it's good.

Idris Elba.

>What if we give him Bond?
>Samuel L. Jackson as James Bond
>ultraviolence left and right
at this point it would at least be enjoyable unlike the daniel craig joints.

Kill yourself zoomer

Almost all Bond films are infinitely rewatchable. They are so entertaining. Spectre is the only one I would never watch again out of sheer boredom.

>Haha, wouldn't it be great if we just torpedoed this franchise for the lulz, guise! Down with Bond's toxic masculinity and unbearable whiteness!

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eat shit fuckers

you dont even understand what james bond is

the franchise is already dead

Yeah, no. Daniel Craig was a setback that can easily be recovered from. Nevermind that Casino Royale was a fairly solid movie, and Skyfall wasn't too bad. If you want to try and shit up dead franchises go post in Star Wars/Capeshit thread No. 1421525

I think he would go back to making a Bond that casually spanks waitresses and that's a good thing.

>lmao my dude i just love niggers hahaha

HE SAID THE WORD

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tarantino isn't right for bond

>Connery's movies seem to fall into the trappings of the popular morality of the 60s sexual revolution
Connery's films were before the sexual revolution. Try not to pseud all over yourself on the way out of the thread

wrong. historians have a general consensus that it started in 1960 with the advent of contraception pills. the movement actually started in the late 50s, but prevailing social attitudes changed rapidly through the mid 60s.

Explanation for clarity's sake:
>late 50s: sexual attitudes begin to loose
>1960: contraception pills available, signals the official 'start' of the sexual revolution
>mid 60s: the sexual attitudes greatly change, due to a combination of the 2 above

fpbp

genuine fbpb here, I agree with this completely

2 decent movies in 25 years, it's dead

>Goldfinger is Mid Tier
>Ocotpussy is High Tier
This is the most contrarian pile of shit ranking I've ever read. Blindly celebrating shit so you can feel different is no better than following the pack, dumbass.

Moore was the best bond. You only hate him because you were told to hate him and can't form your own opinion.

Have you even seen all of his movies? Because if so you'd know the guy who said "follow that pimpmobile" is not best bond. Besides, View to a Kill is like watching grandpa slay young poon. It's uncomfortable man.

Its time for a black bond.

Goldfinger's plans literally get foiled by James Bond forcing himself on Pussy Galore lmao

In a fucking barn on a haystack

No nigger Bond you cuck

The guy who said "follow that pimpmobile" is best bond.
FTFY
His movies are campy, his lines are hilarious, the plots are ridiculous, which is EXACTLY how James Bond should be. The idea that there are people who think that 007 should have serious adult plots is just laughably absurd.

Good post.
See pic

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I have a better time watching Dr. No or Licence to Kill user. To each their own, but to say other people can't form their own opinion because they don't agree with you is a bit narrow minded.

>His movies are campy, his lines are hilarious, the plots are ridiculous, which is EXACTLY how James Bond should be.
"No!"

Based as fuck
You are a retarded adult baby

why sean connery looked like a nigger in the bond movies?, what´s the deal with that?, fuck i´m from south america and i look more light skinned than him

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The first Bond film I ever saw as a kid was Octopussy over at my friend's house. The next day my dad was watching pic related on HBO. I asked him what he was watching and he said "a James Bond movie". I thought he was bullshitting me at first.

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>View to a Kill is like watching grandpa slay young poon. It's uncomfortable man.
You have shit taste faggot.

Eh, he was getting a bit old by that point and you know it. Granted, Christopher Walken and Grace Jones were great.

It's just a roastie mad that men will always be able to get young girls while they are used up by the time they're 22.

Glad someone else sees TND as the worst one.

what a pleb

>never had his grandpa sit him down and force him to watch James Bond when he was 9 years old

Fucking hell, no wonder guys these days are basedboy cucks.

bump

>Craig Bond killing sub 20 people
Whoever made that list needs to fuck off.

Brosnan literally only has 1 good Bond movie.

there are 6-7 good ones. The rest are mediocre or garbage. Let's see:
GoldenEye
Casino Royale
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
Licence to Kill
The Living Daylights

^Conservative list of the good ones. I might add a few more if i'm being generous.

Shit tier:
Your List

Objectively correct rankings, though maybe knock Dr. No down a tier
Also Goldfinger, while memorable, is also not as great as most remember

Related: Sean Connery would make a great Khomeini

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>7x2 is greater than 1x3
I'm genuinely surprised this retard hasn't deleted his post yet

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>dude scantily dressed women and i have sex with them all lmao btw i'm a secret agent

>Average per Jamed Bond film
>implying 7x2 is less than 1x3
I'm genuinely surprised this retard hasn't deleted his post yet

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Give me one (1) good movie to watch.

The Passion of the Christ

WHAT ARE YOU SOME KIND OF DOOMSDAY MACHINE BOY

I've seen it already. Kino indeed. Anything else? Preferably something new or old and esoteric so that you don't keep recommending me kinos that I've already seen.

You didn't ask for a good movie that you haven't seen, you asked for a good movie.

ARM YOURSELF BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE HERE WILL SAVE YOU
THE ODDS WILL BETRAY YOUUUU
AND I WILL REPLACE YOUUUUUUUU

And then I amended my request. Do you want to help me out or not?

I already did, and I can't read your mind.

Please?

Seriously what is it that makes Casino Royale so fucking perfect? I've seen it probably 10 times now and it's still a treat to watch.
Yeah there are other great films but CR is just such a treat.

I hope everyone knows Bond 25's title and cast are revealed tomorrow/today (25th).

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For Your Eyes Only is fucking awesome. Fuck off.

Sorry, user, it's just not possible.

Official reveal is tomorrow m8
Kinda want to be hyped but Spectre was trash

What would a Rian Johnson directed Bond film be like?

Fine. Thanks anyway. I recently rented Brawl in Cell Bock 99. I thought it was pretty good.

>Kinda want to be hyped
Kill yourself corporate cock sucker

I've never heard of that movie, but I'm glad you enjoyed it, user.

>Official reveal is tomorrow m8

Yeah the 25th as I typed - 13:10 BST. Might reveal who's singing the theme song.

Thanks. You should check it out.

>Bond is killed by his gay lover in the first 10 minutes
>follow up with 30 minutes of random board room meetings spliced together with M interviewing candidates for the position of 007
>finally she offers the position to one
>it's Zendaya
>cut forward 2 days, Zendaya is now an expertly trained spy/assassin
>she's looking through all of Bond's video diaries and old documents
>it's all him admitting that he's a fraud and he only got by on luck
>not just Craig Bond but all the way back to Connery
>she gets assigned a new bad guy to beat
>he's the biggest baddest bad guy the agency ever saw
>kills him instantly
>rest of the movie is her dealing with the backlash of her coworkers who were secretly working for the big bad guy (they're now all trying to kill her but failing in comedic ways)
>also this whole time there's a subplot about Q coding a new hit smartphone app
>end with M stepping down and promoting Zendaya to the new position of triple-0-seven
>screen fades to black, followed by an ominous orchestral swell with the text "To Be Continued...?"

I watched the first three a couple months back and absolutely loved Dr no. That connery intro was awesome and it was a comfy movie all around.

All of them are good, except for Thunderball, Skyfall, OHMSS, and most the Roger Moore movies. They are not high art though. I enjoy them in the way the normies enjoy capeshit. Except A new one comes out every few years instead of every few weeks.

I thought this was a serious post until I got to Brosnan. Almost would have fallen for it still if you didn't completely bait with Craig.
7/10.

just rewatched that intro, man what the fuck happened to Connery's voice
I know age changes your volice but he went from uber chad to alcoholic speech impediment in like 2 decades

2 decades of alcoholism seems like it'll do the trick to be fair

Quantum had Olga Kurylenko though and shes worth every penny to see her on the screen

The series takes itself too seriously

>I thought this was a serious post until I got to Brosnan

He's right, especially with the last two Brosnan films. They're two of the worst in the entire franchise.

Tomorrow Never Dies was all right.

But the World Is Not Enough is even better than Tomorrow Never Dies.

People like you should be killed

Not true at all.

Just watched spectre for the first time yesterday. What was bad about it? It tied in well and didn't go muh crazy like other bond films, and actually had a female co lead that matters (not that I really care about that shit)

that sounds overly ridiculous, but your first seven lines aren't all that different from the beginning of Skyfall

this was one of the best scenes

youtube.com/watch?v=y_eZw262fhM

It's my favourite film franchise. Even the bad ones are still fun to watch. Connery had the best run of films but The Spy Who Loved Me with Moore is my favourite Bond film.

villain was a repeat of skyfall
tried too hard to make muh cinematic universe saying every craig villain was working for spectre
pointless torture scene

Bond Girl Rankings:
Elektra King
Miranda Frost
Christmas Jones
Xenia Onatopp
Severine
Tatiana Romanov
Honey Ryder
Domino Derva
Camille Montes

How did Brosnan get all the top tier and bottom tier girls bros?

Ah fuck forget a number 10. Let's do Vesper Lynd just to shitpost.

Overly ridiculous?
>movie opens with a yo momma joke
>turns out the good guys are losing the war 2 days after winning the war
>Luke hates the force
>Leia can fly now too
>Ackbar is dead now too (didn't fly so good)
>the entirety of Canto Bight happens
etc etc

They are all good except for The Spy Who Loved Me, Octopussy, and all the Brosnan ones but Goldeneye

This is bait, right?

Natalya
the d'Abo sister
Domino
Vesper
Solitaire

honorable mention to the nude Azn in the pool because I've got the fever

I actually thought it was the best Craig Bond movie until the final act. If it had ended at Blowfeld's compound in Africa, it would've been almost perfect.

it's just a white male self wank fantasy. don't bother

It was a shaky movie even up to that point, but I whole-heartedly agree. That was the logical ending. Then we get all that bullshit tacked on.

I think they really dropped the ball on that secret meeting he spied on. That could've really been a creepy Eyes Wide Shut (minus the sex) scene but instead it comes and goes in a couple minutes and before you know it we have yet another car chase scene.

Skyfall is the only good Craig era song.

>except for The Spy Who Loved Me

But that's one of the best ones.

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Am I the only one that's bothered by Q being a millenifuck?

I was bothered by it.

>the absolute best Bond villain
>great opening song and best of the 90s
>fun action sequences and chases

Remove Renard (or make him less prominent) and cut Denise Richards and that arc of the movie and you could have had the best Brosnan movie.

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A View to a Kill

I've been waiting for over seven hours for somebody to tell me that. Thank you for setting me free.

You couldn't search 'james bond christopher walken' or 'james bond what a view to a kill' literally tells you the title in the subtitles.

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The Living Daylights
For Your Eyes Only
A View To A Kill
License To Kill
Octopussy
The Man With The Golden Gun
Diamonds Are Forever
Moonraker
The Spy Who Loved Me
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
Live And Let Die
Dr No
Goldeneye
From Russia With Love
Tomorrow Never Dies
Goldfinger
Thunderball
The World is Not Enough
Die Another Day

This isn't exactly a "best" ranking. It's more of a "what I'd most want to watch again ranking."

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And if you like exactly this description and enjoy history, check out the Flashman novels.

I need for you to tell me that you knew I was joking.

As a man who literally had his father pass down the james bond films to him, I completely understand this feeling. I plan on passing them on to my son as well.

I thought it was really pale compared to Skyfall

Great fucking post, but you absolutely forgot Lazenby movie which is secretly the best one

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Looking at a Murder from Vantage

I deduct points for any Bond where the climactic battle has Bond fighting alongside a small army that takes many casualties against the villain's henchmen. Thunderball, TSWLM, Moonraker, You Only Live Twice, and The Living Daylights fall into this category. The chaotic and confusing battle alongside the Mujahadeen is basically the only problem I had with The Living Daylights which was otherwise fantastic. Goldfinger also sorta applies but that had a more satisfying climax inside the vault.

For Your Eyes Only has Bond backed up by a small crew in the climax in the monastery and earlier, but those scenes are more stealthy and restrained rather than bloody battles.

If Bond has to have a small army fighting and dying to help him complete his task, then he's not being very spylike. He's more like a general commanding troops into conventional battle.

One of the main villain got blew up like a balloon and you say that?

He wasn't happy with the bonus situation.

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The N64/PS1 game was fun, but the movie was god awful.

I really hope that Cary Fukunaga delivers lads

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Shit taste those were the best bits when i was a child.

What a cute dog

I have a soft spot for it. I was 14 when it came out and I kinda loved it. watched it again recently and oh my god teri hatcher is fucking terrible. at least they kill her off quickly. Jonathan Price is super hammy but at least he's not as bland as the guy from TWiNE with the bullet in his head. I think the plot is interesting even though they spell things out like it's for 5 year olds. Which kinda explains why I loved it so much. Goldeneye seemed confusing to me when I was 10, so the fact that I could follow TND so easily made me like it more at the time.

>theguardian.com/uk/1999/may/21/fiachragibbons
pretty much

bump

>The chaotic and confusing battle alongside the Mujahadeen is basically the only problem I had with The Living Daylights
Opinion disregarded. That was the scene that solidified its rewatchability.

lol stupid pleb showing off his incorrect thoughts

the parking garage scene is the only good one and the only one you remember - admit it