So, the next Death Battle seems to be a quality one

So, the next Death Battle seems to be a quality one.

Let's talk about it

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War Machine's a chump who loses to stairs.
Genos regularly shits all over Godzilla and friends.

goku is stronger than superman

>can get pierced by lasers
>thinks he can defeat a man whose main peek is shooting lasers from his eyes
Gokuturds are a circus.

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Car-El is more powerful than Superman.

When is Yusuke going to stomp Danny ?

Not if he gets her in a headlock.

Bruh, I just got banned from Comic Vine for saying fuck

What the fuck

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Everyone knows War Marchine will win.
I just hope they go nuts with the explosions.

basado
cope

>superman wins by getting batman to shoot a laser at goku while his guard is down
It can't be done by Superman himself because Freeza also has eye lasers and he didn't win with those.

superman wins
suoerman always win
JUST ACCEPT THIS AND MOVE ON!!!!

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Damn...

Can someone post the best Goku lifting feats? For comparison.please

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Okay, what's Superman's counter to a magical sealing spell? Cause Goku has a magical sealing spell.

>superman wins because he's the better weight lifter
kek

He's better at everything. The weight lifting part is just funnier to use.

Goku doesn't really lift that much. He just punches.

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Rhodes probably has this, if they scale his feats to his world. If they follow the highly unusual path of not scaling, Genos will probably win for his better individual non-scaled feats.

the mafuba can be redirected if you are stronger than the caster
he is also faster, tougher and smarter but whatever helps you cope

>supes is also the inferior fighter with weaker punches
I'm coping just fine.

>superman is faster, stronger, tougher and smart b-but he would lose because goku has more experience
pic related (You) and your """logic"""

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It being hand-drawn animation is going to be intresting

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my dick vs your asshole

You mean the special snowflake that was invented just to prompt up Superman.

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>supes is also the inferior fighter
Supes knows actual martial arts, though. Goku just develops stronger ki powers through training, he has no actual technique, as easily proven by the fact that he thinks rock-paper-scissors is a martial arts move.

>Supes knows actual martial arts
He does not. Hence why most writers consider him a terrible melee fight that relies heavily on his overwhelming physical power.

I dunno, I could crack a nut with my ass. I don't think your dick would stand a chance.

Obviously the iron is from another universe where iron can withstand universe level attacks

Wait, I heard it was supposed to be 3D?

Both get fragged by THE MAIN MAN without him even moving.

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Lobo already gets his ass kicked by an inferior fight and less powerful being in Superman. Add Goku to the mix and they will both take turning raping Lobo's holes. And we all know Lobo is afraid of dick. Its his Kryptonite.

Probably knock him out while he’s doing the chant thing

The Exploding Numbers Technique alone 1-shots them both.
>"B-but Superman has beaten hi--"
Shut up. Lobo's power levels canonically fluctuate. High-power Lobo slaughters Goku and Supes easy.

When is Jean having a go on Death Battle? Let her rape the teen titans bitch already.

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Bold claim.
I need scans, or in this case, videos.

Lobofags are so pathetic. Atleast Gokufags and Superfags got legit feats to back up their claims.

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>Gokufags
>legit feats

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>Quality one
In fight or in debate?
Cause everyone already knows War Machine is winning this
Its not a complete stomp but War Machine obviously wins most of the time

Its hand drawn
They confirmed it in Jason vs Leo's commentary
Hoping they keep moments with Rhodey inside the War Machine HUD

Yep, the animated parts of DP vs Mask was quite so i hope they are able to up the level of quality for this episode

Might be this season...

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I don't know, this kind of makes sense though. If you can strengthen your fleshy weak human meat to such high levels using ki, you'd surely be able to be even tougher if your meat was made of metal.

RIPeroni Beerus

When Ben asked for suggestions for Beerus to fight, was Jean among the suggestions?

I mean his other main foe is Arecus so he is fuuccckkked. (unless he fights someone like Asura)

Yes

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No, Jean needs a match, let her have this one. lol

So how does Cyborg vs Android 17 go?

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I will never forgive Death Battle for effectively killing Screwattack. Anyone of you who still watches this garbage should go fuck himself.

>a guy we know nothing about besides being able to erase thing
vs
>A literal dimension warper
How are they so bad at scaling fights?

Comicvine sucks anyway

Screwattack died because of how YouTube kept changing
Channels went from being variety to becoming tailored to one specific thing because of how search algorithms kept fucking with the content

>me caveman and me think brute strength always win

Green Phoenix ain't that powerful. Green Phoenix struggles against a starved Galactus. And has been killed by people significantly weaker than her.

Superman isn't just brute strength
Heat vision lobotomy remember

Well he's only punching in base form. How is that even comparable?

Android could likely win if he has GT and Super feats.

Would be a good match.

>Non-canon comic.
Kek.

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>Goku got legit feats
good joke

>A fake Lobo created by Jenny
Kek

Superman doesn't train in martial arts so doesn't retain any fancy fighting skills.

Damn. RIP me for not paying attention.

Man, I hope not. I've been pulling for her to fight Ikki for a while now.

It would be a closer match but people want to see Beerus.

Lets be real, Episode 125 is most definitely gonna be Beerus' episode

Phoenix doesn't stand a chance against Ikki.

>Fake Lobo
>Even though New Earth Lobo remembers and has referenced the events that this supposed "Fake Lobo" took part in.
Cope harder bud

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So what do you guys think is gonna be on the roster for this season now that we’re around 3 or 4 fights in?

Kinda hoping for another giant robot fight so maybe some combiners from transformers or a fight between Mazinger or any of the mechs from the old school mecha days. Plus another Battle Royal like the Pokémon Gen 1 starters or Dr Eggman vs Dr Wily fight.

Battle ends with Geno's offering up his cyber-boipuss to WM's BBC.

Do you think they'll use Astroglide or Pennzoil?

Personally, I wanna see:
>Billy Butcher vs Stain
>Sara Pezzini vs Ryuko Matoi
>Hellboy vs Devilman

On the cast they said the fight choices would be interesting, but mostly they've been either lackluster or merely okay. Nothing way out of left field. We know Crona from Soul Eater is fighting at some point, but otherwise the 8 we've seen so far aren't on that level of unexpectedness.

It's going to happpen. The fact that Ben confirmed on DBC that we are getting a live action fight this season makes it inveitable.

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I am pretty sure the reason they have waited to do this fight is because they want to do it in live action

Assuming the remaining 6 of the first 10 episodes before the gap will involve the the characters shown in the end of All Might vs Might Guy, that leaves us with only one or two matches we know nothing about depending if one of those characters is fighting a Pokemon

I think we will get 2 more MvsDC Fights before this season ends. One is Red Hood vs Winter Solider. The other is

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>Superman always wins!
>who cares about the shitty writing

The price Super Retards are willing to pay for their beloved Gary Stu.

Zatanna i would argue is one of the most unexpectly OP charcters in all of DC Comics. Saying that she is one of the strongest Justice Leaguers is accurate

You must be one of those faggots that never read the comic and just google an image.

>Can't provide a counter-argument
>Has to resort to ad homs
Okay kid. Sure I don't.

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>thinking discount cyborg can beat war machine
Cringe

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when is the blog coming out Mal?

Saturday which is when it usually comes out. Blog is going extremely well with most of the analysis is done.

Also if you a fan of Carol Danvers, you may not like the blog as one of the things said in the blog is this.

"Of all the people to bang in Marvel, he fucking chose Carol Danvers. Like, come on, man."

The people who like Carol are quarantined in their thread. I think they avoid these threads since Carol went 0-2.

Hilarious people think a shitstain like Lobo is stronger than Superman. Superman can contain black holes with the palms of his hand and lift the weight of the multiverse. Lobo honestly doesn't compare.

when's episode 125? next one?

Genos vs War Machine is 123

I meant the one after that, but you gave me the answer to my question. Thanks.

And the Flash shits on all of this. How long does an instant take? Because Barry can out run those.

Fights I want to see

>Joker vs Giorno
>Gorr the God Butcher vs Goku Black
>Hellboy vs DevilMan
>Billy Butcher vs Stain
>Undertaker vs El Santo

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By the time Barry is done, he would had resurrected his mother while ruining the lives of his friends and killed their kids.

Is Goku black just Goku Black or are you allowing him to fusion with the other zamasu?

Because Goku black is weak as shit by himself.

Where’s the narutards that keep popping up lately thinking their fodder verse can lay hands on DBZ characters?

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Well, that depends. How bullshit does he get with his fusion with the other zamasu?

GB is not weak by himself wtf

Universe level.

Oh if that's the case sure, Gorr has a couple of Universe feats so I think he could fight that

He kinda his, the zenkai boost isn't as great when zemasu is in Goku's body and he becomes mortal. Fusion Zamasu is where he did all the cool stuff.

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>By the time Barry is done, he would had resurrected Cell while ruining the lives of Trillions and killed the Galaxy.

Zamasu was the strongest motherfucker in this entire series
youtube.com/watch?v=FHNAPqzMqkI
But he also confirms that Beerus can't do shit outside of his timeline even if he senses it. And that Goku isn't universe level at least by this point in the series.

He made dimensional rifts and created clones, and he was getting continuously stronger after every ass whooping he got. He’s not weak

yeah but he's not universe level strong. That's only fusioned Zamasu.

>Zamasu was the strongest motherfucker in this entire series
That still goes to Jiren, who supreme kai (even after seeing infinite zamasu) stated was the strongest foe they ever faced. And goku is universal at this point

He is off of scaling, even Goku thought he could take on infinite zamasu down but he nor vegeta had any senzus to recover their strength

Goku and Vegeta went all out, they even fusioned. And they were unable to kill Zamasu, so no, no he couldn't.

Absolute bullshit. Vegito blue would have turned Jiren into fodder and he lost to Zamasu.

Why do people never consider the times a character did massive jobbing in vs debates

Edf vs Xcom when

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Strange as it might sound, Beerus actually matches up well to Dark Phoenix. Hakai (Erase) erases ANYTHING, and I mean anything. Lets not forget the part where Jiren is still weaker than Beerus despite his gargantuan power. Jiren is a galaxy level being, Beerus is universal like Phoenix.

Wow, this is like one (1) time Harley did something based.

>And they were unable to kill Zamasu, so no, no he couldn't.
Because he defused, and Goku still tangled with merged Zamasu afterwards using ssbkk. And he still thought he could take on infinite zamasu
> Absolute bullshit. Vegito blue would have turned Jiren into fodder and he lost to Zamasu.
Lol he still said Jiren was the strongest foe they ever faced regardless as if you call it bullshit or not.

And no, a black saga vegito wouldn’t have been able to take out Jiren. Fucking beerus didn’t want goku and vegeta fusing saying he didn’t want to lose 2 fighters at once - implying someone (likely Jiren) would take them out

Zatana wins strangely. You'd think Wanda would end her easily, but NOPE. Fate himself stays on her good side.

I don't remember edf having mind control resistance

That's because Goku thought him and Vegeta were doing fine against Zamasu. and then he fucking turned into an universe and Goku had to pull from his ass the Zen-O Ex Machina. Something he didn't do against Jiren.

So clearly, fusioned Zamasu is on a whole fucking different level than they are.

Doesn't really matter when they could one shot them from miles away

>universe and Goku had to pull from his ass the Zen-O Ex Machina.
Holy shit nigga can you not read?

He only called Zeno because he didn’t have any fucking stamina left to do anything. Goku literally says he might be able to do something if he can transform and have more stamina.
> Something he didn't do against Jiren
Because it’s a fucking tournament?

He didn't had any stamina left because he fought Zamasu full force as Vegito and lost.

What makes you fucking think regular Blue Goku would have any chance against universe Zamasu?

>Jirenretards think he would have any chance against Universe Zamasu
ayyyy

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Because Goku actually stated he had a chance and was looking for a senzu bean to recover
>zamacucks ignoring facts and statements claiming that he was the strongest foe faced
Lmao

Never

They always do. It's a time honoured tradition when arguing against someone to lowball like hell.

>can't fucking kill him while at full power as Vegeto
>BUT HE CAN KILL HIM AS GOKU BLUE IF HE HAD ANOTHER SENZO BEAN
You're one dense stupid shit. I bet you're the Goku vs Superman spammer.

Just for reference Broly only lasted a few minutes against Goku merged with Vegeta. They didn't even break a sweat against him. Broly is stated to be stronger or at least equal to Jiren.

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but what if we only used lowballs

Well, thread hasn't been deleted. Time to post the wishlist.
>Stain vs Billy Butcher
>Accelerator vs Magneto
>Thrall vs Grimgor Ironhide
>Conan vs Tarzan
>Jean Grey vs Phoenix Ikki
>Megas XLR (Coop) vs ZGMF-X20A Strike Freedom Gundam(Kira Yamato)
>Yugo vs Aang
>Samurai Jack vs Guts
>Dave Strider vs Homura Akemi
I'm expecting none of these to ever happen, but whatever.

>>can't fucking kill him while at full power as Vegeto
Vegito was never at full power you fucking dumbass. Actually watch the show
>g-goku can’t beat him!
He literally stated he can take him on. You’re ignoring facts from the fucking show
> Broly is stated to be stronger or at least equal to Jiren
>he’s a brolytard
Of course...

>Vegito was never at full power you fucking dumbass. Actually watch the show
You're a fucking imbecil. They literally ate a senzo bean before using the potara.
youtube.com/watch?v=hIfWB2d3SNQ

they were at full power, kill yourself. I'm not replying to you anymore.

A full power vegito is him using Kaiokek on top of SSB. He was literally just a generic SSB the entire time
> they were at full power, kill yourself. I'm not replying to you anymore
The ultimate seethe, imagine rage quitting this hard

We get some great times.

>joboken
>worth using
I'm not giving you any yous

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I wanna see Reverse Flash vs Goku Black to see the DBcucks seethe again

Wakey wakey Jirenbros

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DO you think the new research team still thinks Superman beats Goku or are they like the vsbattles retards who regard everything above solar system level an outlier?

Goku doesn't have Universe level powers yet.

He doesn't have an answer to this, he's not Universe level.

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Literally undefeated.

Why is he so perfect bros

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Goku stomps that, sorry zamacuck

Z-zamasu bros...

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>Goku doesn't have Universe level powers yet.
He's had it since the Battle of Gods movie. If you really wanna go there, Vegito and Buuhan would've been able to do it, too.
Regardless, this thread needs thrown in the /trash/.

Anyone who unironically likes DBS is a shitter so I think both of you should fuck right off.

>dragon ball heroes
cringe

Go ahead, prove he has Universe level.

Every fucking time.

Every fucking time you ask for feats to a Dragon Ball Turd fan you can rest assure they will find you none but will still vent out on how they feel that Goku could bust an entire universe.

This is a hard one, on one hand Genos is easily more powerful than Warmachine. On the other I don't recall him ever actually beating anyone in the manga.

>prove he has Universe level
>ESL
Anyways, the clash with Beerus that shook the Universe, that he nullified. Goku and Beerus would've destroyed the Universe with 1 (One, Uno) fist clash. On top of that, the Dragon Ball Universe is a macrocosm, so it's a bit bigger than a standard Universe. By now Goku's gotten hundreds to thousands, if not literally millions of times stronger. He's universal, potentially low multiversal. Don't waste my time with a reply, Juan.

>CHADgonball is the only anime that makes the entirety of Yea Forums so booty blasted and seethe to high hell
Is there a more based anime?

>statements
so nothing as usual.

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hey there, statements > feats according to r/characterrant and r/whowouldwin

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user, that whole thing was considered to be so fucking unbelievably indefensibly fucking stupid, that they completely threw that shit out and 100% ignored it.

They are STILL ignoring it in the cartoon and comic.

>Universe level
oh no no no no ahahahahaha

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>no one can destroy this arena with one attack
>spend 45 fighting on it
lmao

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>Superman never lift infinite or held a blackhole because it was a statement

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>Injustice
big yikes dawg

Goku used that level against Broly. And the universe was fine.

Just admit defeat please.

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Where are the universe destroying shockwaves?

>gets slammed against ice
>nearly fucking dies
Dragon Ball is a fucking circus

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OP in case you are reading this im the guy who derailed your thread with goku vs superman faggotry and im also the guy who always makes the goku vs superman threads. just wanted to let you know, cheers

Eh. You're keeping it bumped, even if your argument is asinine. We'll just talk around you when the time comes.

What are fights you guys want to see?

Have these been confirmed officially?

Also, question of the thread:
What country do you guys hail from? I’m curious if DB has international appeal or not.

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It's all just spics here, Satan.

I posted my list already. Leaf reporting in.

Nice Quads. I'm US based but right now I'm visiting my family in Nigeria.

It'll never happen but I still want it damn it.

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Chile, though I'm not really into the DBZwank as the average spic here

Who would win Yea Forums?

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>spics
>DBZwank
I'm a half latino as well and I used to be into the Goku vs Superman craze when it was 2012/early 2013. Not anymore though, I grew out of that shit pretty fast.

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I'm portuguese but from europe.

Been shitposting a lot in these threads. Made the posts about nerged Zamasu and still stand by my opinion that he's the strongest dude in Dragon Ball by feats, not counting with Zen O.

I also made this thread cuz I knew there was some VS heat going on in this board so some of it would end up landing here.

I hope the frog, because I hate him slightly less

How many times do I have to beat you user? Stop bothering Yea Forums and lets go back to Yea Forums NOW!!!

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Yea Forums has mods.

YES and we beat our anons regularly because we love them. Hey Gokufag get your as back to Yea Forums before I put my foot up your ass you little shit! I won't ask you again!

who wins?

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If we ever get Pokemon vs Digimon round 3, I hope it will be this one.

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>stand by my opinion that he's the strongest dude in Dragon Ball besides zeno
Lol. Retard

Lol Dragon Ball threads are spammed on Yea Forums to hell and back. Do you really want them there?

> shakes a single dimension
That’s pretty cute ngl. Talk to me when he’s shattered infinite like Superman did in Reborn

Until mods start actively deleting Yea Forums content on Yea Forums, Dragon Ball shit is here to stay.

Please let Beerus win. I can't believe I'm pulling for the weeb cat over a co character but fuck Jean.

Z has good odds at taking even HOM Wanda especially given how HOM Wanda is near catatonic while Z can spam illusions and flitter around the multiverse at will.

Fuck you too flatscan. Always attempting to put down the mutant.

Superman Thought Robot would kick his ass.

Genos easily shits on WM, even if his job is to job his tech is significantly stronger than WM's

Superman Thought Robot can only manifest against manifestations of pure evil

She is suprisingly OP and i really could see DB doing this matchup due to Wandavision/

Here's a thought - if DB does do Goku Black vs Reverse Flash like the DB Community wants. Would Zamasu be included?

No but i definetly could see it happening this season. Usually every DB Season we get 2 or 3 MvsDC Fights per season.

He'd probably show up just to fuse with Black, treating Fused Zamasu as Black's 'final form'

Nope i am pretty sure they think Superman win. Ironically during GvsS2 - Goku was the closest to beating Superman but thanks to Rebirth and new feats - the gap has widened

Yeah i think that's possible. I still mantain RF should win due to being a heck of a lot faster and having stuff like phasing and power draining that means he doesn't nessecarly have to be stronger then Black to beat him

Yeah it'll probably end with reverse siphoning all black's god ki

its not as simple as that. you need to also know the technique and have ki managing skills.

anyway heres your (you)

Honestly i kinda feel bad for Beerus. He's extremely powerful but the two most likely fights he has (Dark Pheonix and Arceus). He gets stomped by as both should be capable of destorying multiple universes at once. It's like pairing Beerus against Zeno

He's a god of destruction, he should be pitted against Shiva figures, Satan figures, and Lord of Calamity figures

It's the Ben 10 situation. He either stomps or gets stomped.

Yeah pretty much..kinda like also Magneto who Chad has been wanting to get into DB for a while but never could find the right. Maybe Chad and the DB Team will look at the DB Community's most wanted matchup for Mags and do it.

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Yeah but what you gonna do about it.

Show feats or fuck off, that's what I go with.

Nah, Ben has kickass feats. The fact that he lost to one of the most broken characters in DC should tell you that. The dude reacted and was strong enough to contain a big bang on his hands without using Alien X.

As for Beerus, he's no doubt universe level to at least some degree, but his fight with Goku makes absolutely no sense and it looks like it was written without the rest of the series in mind.
God Goku jobbed to nearly every character out there. There's no way he's universe level from what we've seen from him at that stage. Or hell, any stage at all. Reminder that Goku had trouble dealing with a small black hole during the ToP.

>Ben has kickass feats
I'm not saying he doesn't. It's just that he's at a certain power level where it's hard to find good opponents for him.

Okay guys, this is how Ben 10 will win this, he will use Alien X.

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>Reminder that Goku had trouble dealing with a small black hole during the ToP.
No he didn’t, he stood up in it in base, and went blue (even though he should’ve had low stamina) and easily got rid of it.

I’m gonna keep calling you a retard, Jiren was literally confirmed to above GoD level, he stomps zamacuck

Wtf can arceus do

Jiren's stronger than Belmond tho and Belmond beat Beerus in an armwrestling contest

I've been hoping Magneto fights Accelerator. I think it's a good fight, even with light novel fluffers going on and on about the newest Toaru stuff.

>Arceus
I have been wondering
Considering in HG/SS Arceus can just create a new Palkia, Dialga and/or Giratina on the spot would it be fair to give that as a ability for it to use in a battle

I don't see why not, if anything its a good feat to show what its creation powers can do, just fucking spawn legendaries like that. Would make one hell of a killing blow in a DB too.

The horse could just think Beerus out of existence at that point.

Rule of thumb is if a OPM character is involved, they're probably going to win

>Genos
>probably going to win

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There’s only been one in a fight

Genos is notorious for losing everytime a villain moves to phase 2.

It's true that Genos is famously a jobber, but that's only against absurdly strong opponents that move faster than the speed of sound and hit harder than a bunker buster
If we're talking about MCU WM, he's going to win hands down
Comics WM is only marginally more impressive

I've been lurking these threads for quite a while and so far it seems WM has more ground to win this match than Genos. I don't really care as I dropped OPM after season 1 and only know Warmachine from the movies. I'm just here to see two robot dudes duke it out.

If they’re both Zamasu would it count as outside help?

Pretty black hole is the stupidest shit, it doesn’t function at all like a black hole, Goku compares it to Bulma’s gravity room, which I’m pretty sure he hasn’t touched since his trip to Namek, and all it did was push straight down, it had no effect on any other fighters.
There is no way that shit is equal to a black hole.

Isn't one of their rules to have the characters at their strongest? What's the point in using a character if they can't go all out?

>Cyborg who body is almost completely mechanical vs a man wearing a suit that only looks like a robot
The Cyborg should win this one because he's more connected to technology and is pretty much is a machine vs a man just wearing the machine. But knowing how BS comics are, I'm assuming this "Ironman suit" is better than even the most advanced cybernetics known to man, somehow. And is stronger, faster, and most technologically advanced than the guy who is a literal robot.

>Goku literally says he might be able to do something if he can transform and have more stamina.
Trunks was fine and he didn't do shit

To be fair with Carol, she was up against an Android in a show where power levels are such BS that destroying entire solar systems isn't a big deal early on in theshow. And that Android was featured in an arc way past that point. Her second opponent was magical divine Superman. She didn't stand a chance anymore more than Fett fighting Samus.

They're probably going to scale WM to Iron Man

Gwenpool vs Harley Quinn when?

>just summons every single legendary to beat the shit out of his opponent

bird: VS debates
Hamster: us

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god i wasnt that sold on having Arceus on an episode before but now I need it just to see that shit happen

Yeah, with that concept I am officially on the Arceus vs Beerus train.

Do you think DevilArtmesis will ever be allowed to do a Cell DEATH BATTLE

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I'm not in favor of rape matches, but this one would catch a lot of people by surprise.

Maybe, but what themes does Zygarde have in common with Cells?

They have nothing in common lol his is retarded

Zygarde Cells
Both have a theme of completion

From Ulltraguy's blog for War Machine confirming the bare minimum of shit he's getting
He
>has intangibility
>has invisibility
>can survive a nuke in point blank range
>has energy draining
>has sonic generators

>suoerman always win
not this time

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edf has weapons that actualy can hit their targets

the same kai that had no idea goku SS3 was stronger than buu and if he just had let the guy take care of things nothing would had happened?

>What are fights you guys want to see?
Jason vs piramid head
Piramid head wins easily

Brazil

genos loses because they hate street fighter

twitter.com/BenBSinger/status/1234894604631040000

Howard Wang as Genos and Mark Allen JR as War Machine

I think Beerus should fight Asura.

Agreed. Magneto should fight Accelerator

>Gwenpool vs Harley Quinn when?
>Harley Quinn
Please no.

>Jason vs piramid head
>Piramid head wins easily
I disagree!

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Stardust the Super Wizard in a Death Battle when?

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>Leo vs Jason track hasn't been released yet
WHY

Does he get feats outside Fletcher Hanks? Because composite Stardust is a beast going on what he's done in the webcomic.

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Post your favorite Death Battle track
youtube.com/watch?v=zpUdwJ0H_gg

Cuz he’s not blue level without his stupid ass gary stu sword powerup

It was only said that Jiren was someone that the local GoD to couldn’t defeat. Not all GoD are equal as seen with how weak Toppo was.

These things are so stupid and I can't imagine why anyone would watch them.
>Genos vs War Machine
So we are putting an incredibly powerful character from one of the most intentionally broken settings out there against Iron Man's black friend?
I like Rhodey and all but he seems like a pushover that would go down in a minute. Granted I haven't read anything with him since like 2006 but it seems like a mismatch.

Arm strength/lifting strength isn’t as important as skills in a fight. It’s like reading comics with Superman/Hulk strength wanking made you retarded.

Asura is way too weak for Beerus.

Cyborg is about as much robot as Engineer and Extremis Iron-man and yet he rarely does anything impressive when compared to the two. They are using earth tech combated to his New God tech and still come out looking more impressive.

He’s definitely stronger than Belmond, and Belmond is comparable to Beerus (not specifically saying stronger but comparable).

Unless he is using that really specific armor where he pretends he is totally not the guy in that “Iron-man” armor, he doesn’t have intangibility.

>Injustice
>Canon
That is a comic made for a video game where Alfred is a better fighter than Superman, an Alien who knows thousands of martial arts from across the Galaxy.

Toppo was newbie GOD not compatible to a full fledge one

By logic this superman isnt a planet buster ever time he fights

Ulltraguy is a Research Team member
Rhodey's getting it

Is it even out on Spotify?

Superman honestly isn’t a planet buster. It takes him too long to destroy a planet. Attempting to destroy a small moon knocked Superman out after he crashed into it. Superfafs will think differently though.

>Goku goes all out against Beerus in God mode when he first attains the transformation
>Universe destroying shockwave durr
>Does the same against a Guy 1000x stronger
>they barely break some mountains
Inconsistent as fuck

And just like I said, he couldn't do Jack diddly shit to universe size Zamasu, he had to turn tail and call daddy ZenO

Universe level, my ass

>Pre Nu Superman got KO'ed hitting a moon made of shadow magic
>OH MY GOD NOT EVEN PLANT LEVEL
Sit your pathetic ass down.

Oh and while universe sized, Zamasu didn't explode the planet, he only glassed them Halo style. The planet was mostly fine outside of its surface.

>

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How's the El Cabrin arc btw? You guys found any good feats there?

>Superman went on a cosmic adventure just to save a little girl
He makes Goku look like a horribly irresponsible manchild.

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goku IS a horribly irresponsible manchild.
thats the whole apeal of the fucking character. a guy that just likes fighting and will sacrifice the entire world for it

>they barely break some mountains
That could be explained with ki control and plot however it doesn't explain how Goku and Vegeta freak out after that whenever some characters are said to able to destroy a planet or the universe

Now get on your knees and cry like a bitch.

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Does yuske have a defense for possession?

>Ki control
>Broly
No, that is explained with shit writting.

He can detach his soul from his body and fight as a ghost.

>a small dead moon
and its a SMALL moon, not a normal one

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If you can casually fly through one why wouldn't you be able to casually fly through another?

/pol/fags will try to do this if Bernie is elected.

making a small human size hole on earth != destroying a planet user

oh for fuck sake
there is aways one asshole

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I used to be a /pol/tard, I just can't get over their level of obsession over Trump.

Except, you know for that perfect muscle control and photographic memory. And all the times he has had to fight without powers. Or had to fight people who has the same powers.

I'm legit surprised they're having War Machine vs Genos be hand drawn
I was expecting Crona or Danny's episode to get that treatment
Both Genos and War Machine already have sprites and models ready to go

Torquasm Vo

If you know anything about DC, you'd know that this feat right here places Superman's strength far, far, far above Goku.

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and he still cant destroy a planet in a second

what a pussy
is like having infinite energy stored in a needle

Not even Superboy Prime could get out of the Source Wall and that guy took a universe level explosion to the face and lived.

Surprised Mighty and Wings of Iron aren't covered more

What do you think happens when you're hit with infinite energy stored in a needle?

Don't confuse discrimination for weakness.

it would make a needle size hole on me and everything behind me

but is still a needle sized hole

Summoning Legendaries is Hoopa's shtick

Largely depends if Ben can find a solid match up for Cell
Amazo stomps Cell while Zygarde is a solid match up

The monkey king learned that creation encompassed destruction.

Goku learned the same lesson when Superman 2-0'ed him.

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Does his ghost have full access to his spirit energy?

Is it vulnerable to being FERMOS'D?

but he didnt destroyed that moon for ants
something else did

he can fix all he wants but he cant destroy a planet in a second

he can have all the energy he want user
whitout being able to unleashe that energy in a way that isnt a punch superman is useless

superman is as harmfull to a planet as a playing card is harmfull to somebody
it would take a lot of time to kill somebody with playing cards

*THERMOS'D

in theory he is a ghost possessin a body since he is dead

but he can aways punch the ghost before it possesses him

Superman is able to output enough force to --lift monitor mind and remove objects from the Source Wall--.

He doesn't have to actually blow up a planet to demonstrate that he's got power way beyond blowing up a planet.

Snyder had him break an anvil a Monitor uses to forge universes. As in he physically hits the anvil with a hammer and universes form and Superman ---broke-- it.

yeah but can he break the entire wall with a punch?
i dont think so
he would destroy small pieces at a time

> As in he physically hits the anvil with a hammer and universes form
yeah but did he break the universe?
no because he is a small fry pussy that can only do small feats at a time

Um... How? When has yuske delt with intangibility?

Nothing but a special snowflake metal that was invented to literally wank off Superman.

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in realy early filler fight after he comes back to life there is a ghost possessing people and making then do bad things
he can phisicaly punch ghosts or he defeats him with the leigun
i dont remember gonna have to check it out

How? Outside of Beerus’ “erase” move, what also does Beerus have? I haven’t read the manga btw.

Did he eventually abandon the little girl in the Phantom Zone like he did Mon-El and Chris? Or allowed them to die like Cir-El?

>Lifts an intelligence large enough to contain the multiverse
>"Yeah, but did he break it?"
The anxiety and confusion you feel over Superman 2-0'ing Goku is your punishment for being stupid.

>Mon
Gets better

>Chris
Retconned into being Zod's loyal son. I'm sorry, but that's the world we live in now.

>Die like Cir-El
He tried to prevent it.

user who the fuck is talking about goku here other than you

im the ikki guy you know the guy that can fight thousand of times faster than the speed of light and can punch with the force of the big bang

superman can lift all he wants, ikki would rape his mind

If the "original planned season finale with Asura" is still on the table for this season, odds are it'll be Episode 125 with him against Beerus

>Snyder had him break an anvil a Monitor uses to forge universes.
And Snyder also claims that humans are more powerful than Kryptonians. Claimed Lex is a bitch that will follow someone's orders because he is fine with being a bitch. Created the other not-Speedforce bs. Allowed Hawkwoman to fight on equal grounds with multiversal killer Lex. Stop sucking Snyder's dick.

Capable of destroying a planet just by tapping on it with his finger. Didn't need to use hakai in order to erase it. Almost destroyed 2 universes just slightly powering up in a fight against his brother.

Oh no, he's not a good writer. But he does give solid vs battle feats.

>He doesn't know about the theta state
I can't wait for Saint Seiya to debut on Death Battle so they can get FRAUD DETECTED like Ben 10.

This is the best I can bring up. His fight vs Champa would end up with the Universe destroyed.

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If they do DC vs DBZ again, maybe Anti-Monitor?

Also this happens in the anime too. I think that's more canon than the manga.

Pretty sure Ben wants to visit Latin America for a vacation without worrying he'd be lynched on the spot by angry natives

Do you think they'll shut the fuck up like Ben fags or will they seethe and cope for years like Gokucks?

Who knows.

Ben 10's pool of possible opponents greatly expands when you either
A. Limit his aliens to the original 10 or just the OS
B. Keep Alien X's limiter on
He basically has matches up against fellow transformation users like Shantae and Kameo or space themed vast arsenal using youths like Kamen Rider Fourze and Star Force Mega Man (Ben would lose to him without Alien X though)

How would Kamen Rider Decade do?

Could they use the current Ben 10? I don't think he has Alien X yet.

Without Alien X, Decade stomps
With Alien X, I don't want to be entirely sure but does Decade have a speed feat greater than X's black hole spiraling?

I despire Rewind Rumble jerking off DB as much as the next guy, but in terms of the fight itself looking great, you're not going to top this one:
youtube.com/watch?v=fOflAUpHFQk

There's an on going Ben 10 show?

Ben Singer said in the podcast that when figuring out how to handle Ben 10 in a Death Battle, they considered briefly having him just have his original 10 aliens but ultimately felt they had to have him at his peak standard.
Reboot Ben would just be seen as a cop-out especially if he loses

Its a reboot comparable to that of the Shaolin Showdown reboot.

oh that state where superman need to be in a medidation pose to be able to stand mental atacks?

Hōō Genmaken doesnt work like the monster that was atacking superman, needing to be stoped and having a mental battle
ikki isnt paralised after using the atack

while superman is fighting his inner demons ikki can finish him off in the real world IF the demons dont kill him.
but remember superman is week to mental atacks as seen in that justlice league episode where he burns louis alive and breaks jimmy back
thats the kind of shit Hōō Genmaken would make him see

not destruction of the worlds or universes.
but he killing his loved ones using his own hands, and enjoying it
something that would go against superman morals and break him in a mental level

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Its a reboot of the original with a simpler artstyle, 11 minute episodes, and diverges from the original show in a couple of ways
Stinkfly was butchered

Why the fuck pit Beerus against Phoenix when Galactus fits way better thematically?

They should cap him. Atleast take the damn god-alien away. Alien X makes everything else about Ben totally irrelevant.

they want to have jean fighting somebody
but having her agaisnt the saint seiya autist would not work because she would lose

they desperatly want her to win

Rebooting the best season sounds so wrong. But oh well, it's their show.

Because people hate Jean and want to see her die to a space chihuahua.

Mr. Mxy tried that with an infinite tower of illusions.

Superman punched through it.

Would Ikki be able to deal with the Phoenix force or whatever that shit is called

Because even Ben and Chad themselves said Galactus vs Unicron is coming
Eventually
Some day
With the special treatment
As a season finale or a milestone episode
One of these days
It'll come
Surely
It's been announced since Season 2 after all

probably
the real question is not if he would be able to deal with it;
the matter is how many times he would die trying

thats kinda ikki thing
dying in the battle to come back stronger like a phoenix

I mean lifting strength does not necessarily translate to attack power

I'm pretty sure that it is just a cosmic rule that destroyer gods fighting each other seriously would break thier universe. It has nothing to do with thier combat ability.

At his highest form, Ikki managed score a draw against Hades in a series where the Olympian Big 3 are all generally considered universe-level in raw power at minimum. And that's not getting into the mad ambiguity of the sequels and maybe canon spin-offs.

It has everything to do with their combat ability. They have the power to destroy a universe.

Because greater lifting power means that you will win the fight against someone that you can lift more than. Every comic book writer told me so!

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yoda can lift things with his mind
he would beat superman

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If we're using statements then Asura also has some universal stuff:
>Asura destroying an endless dimension (Naraka as the game describes it)
>Chakravartin being the one who spins Samsara (the world, the universe and all of existance, and if you really wanna wank it it is beyond comprehension). the creator of the universe, having Buddha esque portrayal with his design being based on buddhist enlightemnt (said by developers) and "holding everything in the palm of his hand" (reference to Buddha holding the universe in Journey To The West?), Chakravartin meaning "ideal universal ruler" and him having the infinity symbol in every single form (even scrapped concept art)
People talk about Asura's feats a lot but he also has some pretty good portrayal and hype, and considering said feats are the most consistent and "in your face" of the medium it's hard to see why the other stuff should be ignored, specially when there are characters with way less who the community gives much more

One of the writers for Dragon Ball Super said Goku might be able to destroy the universe if he became a god of destruction

I think he means there is some exotic effect God of Destruction energy has that leads to the destruction of the universe as opposed to a straightforward consequence of there being too much energy being unleashed for the universe to physically handle.

Lobo got murdered by some inbred that lived in his brothers diaper.

He is do big and muscular and manly and bronzed.

Yup. He got killed by Superior Lobo.

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I was thinking of another inbred living in his brother’s diaper but fair enough.

mAN i WANNA FUCK EMO LOBO

>Xiaolin Showdown
I wonder, would they ever consider using characters from that show on DB? Or nah because it’s not as well known?

Shin has the ability to kill beerus by killing himself.
Beerus is stronger than Goku.
Therefore shin is stronger than Goku.
That's you. That's what you sound like.

Two destroyer gods fighting destroys a universe because two destroyer gods. Not because of how strong those destroyer gods are

Some of these are great
twitter.com/deathbattlebot?lang=en

Its pretty well known but its not as requested as other western cartoons

Modern cartoon reboots are bad a majority of the time because you’re taking a property that was mostly action oriented with some comedy and turning it into a full blown comedy with ironic jokes, 4th wall breaking, and an art style that looks like it came from a PBS kids show. Stuff like Teen Titans Go, Thunder Cats Roar, and Ben 10 reboot come to mind.

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>Not because of how strong those destroyer gods are
But that’s exactly the case. Being a GoD directly relates to strength. Beerus even stated vegeta is powerful enough to become a weaker GoD and rule over a universe

How does that work? If Goku becomes stronger than Beerus, does that mean he now has that life bond with the Kai? Does he have to be assigned?

They don’t go until too much detail into the cosmic system of GoDs and angels. So who knows.

The manga did recently give us a little info on how angel’s work at least

I dunno. In theory every single one of Goku's fights after Battle of the Gods shous have had commentary about the imminent destruction of the entire universe, but it never comes up. But when Beerus fights his brother, it returns. Given the evidence, the universe destruction is probably due to some special effect of God of Destruction Ki as opposed to pure energy output. Which means Goku and everyone in his level aren't quite universe level. The Gods of Destruction themselves might not even be pure universe level if they're reliant on an exotic mechanism.

It's not super well defined. Whis offered Goku the job of God of Destruction if Beerus died, and Toppo ascended to one during the ToP, so it looks like the God of Destruction position can be granted to mortals and it comes with some special destruction perks. Likely eternal youth too.

I gave an honest try to Thundercats Roar, by the third episode Lion O went on a quest to open a cookie jar. My fucking God.

The episode with the unicorns had the shittiest animation yet, I'm just considering watching more episodes to see how low that ship will sink

I can't blame you for forgetting about Jiren but remember he's stronger than his GoD and he's in no way tied to the gods besides his personal relationship with them, small as it may be

>Its pretty well known but its not as requested as other western cartoons
Understandable. I don’t think I have any idea for who to pit any of the XS characters against.

Damn, I remember watch that show back then and recording various episodes of it on VHS.

How do they work?

Shendu vs Mala Mala Jong

I've been partial to Chase Young vs Acnologia.

>The manga did recently give us a little info on how angel’s work at least
The manga is it's only canon compare to the anime. Anime is the true canon.

Should Omi have fought Aang?

Because they are both monks? That's racist!

Worked for Static and Miles

It might be interchangeable, considering the anime is halted the manga.

There's also a lot of instance the manga and anime are 1:1

Honestly, yeah. It was great to see Ed in a fight, but man he and Aang have almost nothing in common.

Hopefully not since the manga is trash.

They explain why, ki control. Goku nullified the shockwaves during the fight.

Also Gogeta Blue and Broly broke through reality. Kefla stated she could 1 a universe during the ToP. Goku Black was blue level and was tearing holes in reality. Goku thought he could do something against infinite zamasu who was effecting universes. Plus there’s the fact that the SSG feat appeared in BOTH the manga and anime so it’s interesting that despite how different the events play out between the two mediums, they both decided to include that feat. I believe Goku is definitely universal.

Yeah I share the opinion, and quite honestly don't want the El Cabron arc to be animated.

There's going to be a new movie isn't it?

>Shendu vs Mala Mala Jong
Nah. I saw both series 2 years ago. Shendu would win because all of the Talismans he has is superior than any Shen Gon Wu MMJ has in season 1 for XS. Even “the fearsome 4” can’t stop Shendu when he has all 12 Talismans.

Don’t know a lot about Acnologia or Fairy Tale in general to determine the outcome.

I thought about that, but the problem is what Shen Gon Wu should Omi be equipped with besides the Orb of Tsunami, Shiva Staff, and that powerup gear (that I can’t remember the name of) he got a few episodes before the series finale?

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Who would be a good opponent for a 40k space marine like gabriel angelos or captain titus?

Static vs. Miles is just electric Magneto vs. electric Spider-man.

Periodic vs Classical Elements

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The theme was parallel universe African American superheroic youths with electricity themes

You realize your own image suggests Yugo was a better fight for Aang, and he's who I wanted to fight Aang all along?

Wow, stop being a racist that only see people for the color of their skin.

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They opened small holes in the dimension, but that isn't anything new, Buu could do that too.

Ki control isn't true because characters like Broly or Califla have absolutely no Ki control over their power. And if Frieza could destroy the universe he would have done it too.

Shit doesn't make any sense.

The angels have to be neutral and not use their powers to kill or give help mortals (which is kinda bullshit since Whis helps Goku all the time but whatever).

There was actually this newbie Angel who was sent out to learn about mortals. He basically became a space cop who was extremely good at it due to him obviously being a fucking angel. He wasn’t using his powers and was just using the weapons that were given to him but he was close to using his powers against Goku during a training session. Whis cock blocked him and took Merus to their dad (the grand priest) and Merus was given a warning saying he’ll be utterly blown. the. fuck. out. if he uses his powers to help out mortals. Stating that they must remain neutral at all times.

Which is bullshit since Whis rewinded time to help Jobku during RoF and trains Goku as well. I think they just hate him because Merus is new at the job and is the intern the other angels shit on

that's kinda bullshit.

Acnologia was a human doctor that initially supported peace and harmony until he got corrupted by power bestowed on him by a dragon and started hunting down and killing dragons to bathe in their blood. He is now an immortal murderhobo that had to be stopped by the prayers of an entire world and the power of friendship. He is to Natsu what Kaguya and Yhwach are to Naruto and Ichigo: the final boss of their series.

>don't do this to Aang
Lmao

Just your typical Toyotaro writing. Its laughable that there are people that are fans of it.

Man...i still wish Ed fought Joseph Joestar instead of Aang

What is this reaction? Does it mean anything? Very original meme?

Means nothing he’s just a retarded shitposter

Ed and Alphonse vs Joseph and Ceasar would be pretty hype

During a Dragonball movie, Vegeta gets to fight and beat the shit out of Freiza but still dies when Freiza destroys the planet they're on.

That retarded shitposter is me, I'm sorry.

But if you want me to explain what I was getting at, Vegeta blue died in that planet sized explosion.
Vegeta Blue>Goku Red (the same Goku people were claiming to be universe level)

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He died because he can’t breathe in space.

That's a pretty sad way to go for a supposedly universe level fighter. Can't survive in the vacuum that makes up most of the universe's volume.

No, he was nowhere to be found after the explosion.

It’s more that he can’t breathe in space rather than the explosion itself.
It is yeah

Not that user but tha's probably because of censorship, having Vegeta's dead body float around while Bulma and the others watch would be pretty macabre for a kids show

He died in the explosion lol they can't breathe in space but they can survive for a while there if they wish so

They're also black electric spidermen

Static was created to be Black Lightning + Spider-man and Miles was a homage to Milestone, hence his name being Miles.

They said he died because of the lack of oxygen.
> they can survive for a while there if they wish so
Makes no fucking sense, they literally can’t breathe in space

yeah but Shadow could defeat Arceus actually.

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Just create a Palkia inside Shadow’s brain

Superman can't breathe in space either, he just holds his breath.

Kek

No he doesn’t

It doesn't appear against anything short of Mandrakk-tier, so that's a no.

Cell vs All For One. Or better yet Cell vs DevilArtemis Zarbon

Yes he does you fucking retard. He's learnt them from Batman and Wonder Woman

Its like you Superfags don't even read Superman.

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the lama can't do that.

He created the universe, the concept of time and space, Giratina, but we don't know how long it took her to do that.

If she could just no u Palkia, Dialga and Giratina he would have done it everytime they decided to rebel against her, something she never did.

She can no sell all their moves which grants her some skyfather level of resistances, that is true. But she still isn't omnipresent.

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Shut up.

Just, shut the fuck up.

He instantly made the trio for the player

Superbro
90s

Superfags and being retarded, honestly can't name a more iconic duo.

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What? In what game?

Arceus wasn't even officially released in any game.

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>In what game?
the heartgold/soulsilver event where you bring it to the ruins of alph.
and Arceus WAS officially released-as a promo for a movie.
because gamefreak thought the azure flute would be too complicated for kids.

non-canon

Except it is. It’s from Batman/Superman.

>Comic books are inconsistent
No way

Except its non-canon because its no longer canon. Simple concept really.

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>He doesn’t know....

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I don't know if he actually did that or not, the trio has a mind of their own, they're all Pokemon even if they're just avatars.

also I was just kidding too. I just wanted to pull those quads and that's the most retarded thing that came to my mind to say. It took 3 hedgehogs to beat Solaris, Arceus would beat Solaris on his own.

>Actual Universal Powerhouse that can straight up erase with near godlike power. A literal God of Destruction.

VS

>Some chick who's most notable feat is sleeping with team members and dying.
Yeah i wonder who's going to win this one.

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>strongest metal in the universe
Ok and? Did you forget that the entire arena for the ToP in Super is made of a material that is considered among the strongest from all universes? And Superman is struggling with those chains while the Z fighters wee just bursting that arena like it was made of paper, Vegeta and Goku were doing it before even going blue.

People forget just how ridiculous the dbz scale has become, you'd need that one golden superman that was several years inside a sun to even stand a chance.

No you don’t. Just take them to space.

Superman can’t breathe in space either

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Its okay if you want to continue being retarded. It won't bring back pre-Flashpoint DC.

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That was to make his son feel better.

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user... Post-Crisis and New 52 Superman merged into one guy.

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>Did you forget that the entire arena for the ToP in Super is made of a material that is considered among the strongest from all universes?
Can't be all that strong if everyone and their mother can break it apart.

Wouldn't having multiple runs with differing power levels and feats also kinda fuck with the legitimacy of comic feats? In one run supes can lift a planet, in another he gets fucked up if you throw a building at him which one is valid and which one isn't and why?

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instant transmission would make it very hard to keep Goku in space. Plus it's not like they can't fight or fly around in space, they just can't breathe. Goku was fighting Beerus pretty fucking close to open space for a while before his fatigue got to him and at those heights there's basically no oxygen so it's not like they're disabled instantly.

Those were supposed to be the strongest fighters from all universes, even if some looked like random mooks.

>close to space
So not space then, there is oxygen no matter how little, how would Goku do standing on the sun?

Vegeta and Nappa also destroyed a planet from space.

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>lose to roshi
>strong

>lose to Batman
>strong

>favorite avatar is the most powerful telepath in the world, possibly the universe to a universal undying flaming cosmic god-bird of rebirth and destruction that can do literally anything as long as their host doesn't resist.

Another DCuck, another day on Yea Forums

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When has Superman in his right mind ever lost to Batman in canon?

I can't believe I'm actually feeling sorry for Bragon Ball fans. They have no feats, only statements and those contradict themselves by the character showings... That's sad.

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>he has no retort/response

This is why you should learn to read Superman before you start shit with us Superchads.

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Not a samefag btw

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Jean isn't the most powerful telepath in the world nor the universe though. If you limit it to just mutants, Rachel is more powerful but less skilled. If you don't limit it to mutants, Moondragon is probably more powerful and definitely more skilled.

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Telepathy is basically brain cell manipulation.

Stardust VS The Laughing Sales Man.

nah

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>Jean isn't the most powerful telepath in the world nor the universe though.

Cut the shit. She's been stated many times to be more powerful than prof. X and Emma, both of which have telepathy that can reach a global scale. Even the Phoenix Force itself has stated this.

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Who the fuck cares about Xavier and Frost. They are rarely mentioned when it comes to most powerful telepaths.

>They are rarely mentioned when it comes to most powerful telepaths.

And does that completely invalidate their own feats? Does that imply that just because they're not popular enough to warrant a namedrop, they're deemed as irrelevant? If you acted this ignorant and dismissive to scaling feats, then this would just be a pissing contest.

By the way, Phoenix Force still states that Jean is the most powerful telepath of them all. It's consistent with its word since they keep trying to go back to Jean.

SPWP

>rt animation

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>chains forged under pressure of an inverted black hole
>strongest metal in the universe
>used to haul stars
Yeah, okay retard.
youtube.com/watch?v=8w67fxrmbsc

>Tiny ass Special Beam Cannon

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who is the strongest in srmthg?