Best and worst uses of time travel in film and television
Best and worst uses of time travel in film and television
days of future past was kino
>go back into the past
>change timeline so you never went back
>eternity collapses
The problem with time travel tropes is the same as plot twists. They got overused so much from 1980-2005, that eventually its a derivative of a derivative.
Best:
>Primer
>Terminator
>bttf
Worst:
>Harry Potter
>Endgame
I'm watching Future Man right now, it's underrated kino
BttF needs to go on your best list.
It's good. A shame people might think it's some video-game show when that concept falls after the first episode.
The only problem I have with Endgame is how Cap was able to grow old in a timeline where Thanos didn’t leave in 2014
Huh?
Does Happy Death Day count?
Or is time loops different from tine travel?
Terminator would be great. But the sequels ruin the perfect loop. Like how does T2 logically mesh with the original movie?
Felt more like respawning in a video game, but it nailed that feel.
there is no concept in that show, its garbage
Worst is Harry Potter by far
T2 is a hack
the one thing i hated about the movie was how they did the thing of emily dying at the helicopter, thus tom's reluctance to let her go with him. the whole movie we've been in tom's side, seeing the story from his perspective, and out of nowhere we're seeing the movie from blunt's perspective just for the sake of a twist (that they've done that bit many times already and it always fails)that wasn't even good
Grandfather paradox? Can't you get around that with alternate timelines or just have it that the time traveler is immune to the change in the timeline because they exist out of their proper time?
The actual monsters in both were a bit lame, but I really liked the cosmic horror aspect of timeline fuckery in Langoliers and the Doctor Who story "Father's Day" although only the latter was explicitly a case of Grandfather Paradox.
It's been years since I watched that episode, but I found the ways the timeline fucked back (all telephones just repeating the first ever telephone call, the TARDIS turning into an ordinary police box) legit spooky.
Yeah it felt like if tom suddenly turned into some stranger for us
for me, it's primer
Frequency, though it basically flies in the face of how paradoxical the whole "time travel/changing the past to change the future" element is with but if you let that part go it works great in the drama thriller story.
T2 takes place years before Judgement Day so there's still ample opportunities for it to occur after the events of the movie.
T3 fucked everything up.
any time family guy does time travel it's epic win
Bill and Ted's bogus journey is a fun use of it but it makes my head hurt with how stupid it is.
>Best
Unironically Interstellar
do you even understand what you are saying? time travel is a joke; whats the point in going back in time if you're not going back in your own time?
its not about "getting around it". if your writing has to get around its own logic, stop writing
Best:
Twelve Monkeys
Primer
Austin Powers
Everything else is shit
This and Primer are the only good time travel movies.
Best:
-Interstellar
-Primer
-ARQ
Worst:
Everything else
>T3 fucked everything up
wut? It makes the first two movies possible.
>interstellar
this is bait right?
The one where the two (or was it three?) guys time travel back and forth inside a pub merits a mention.
Can't remember it very well, but it was a comedy.
Show me another movie which resolves the grandfather paradox with its internal logic. I know that people on here like to shit on this movie but the time-travel aspect is really quite clever.
Best: Twelve Monkeys
Worst: Avengers: Endgame
I've said this a thousand times on this godforsaken board but Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey has the perfect illustration of a bootstrap/ temporal causal loop.
>primer
hello redclit
Oh I was thinking that you were baiting by trying to insinuate that time relativity was time travel.
How is primer not good use of time travel?
Yahoo
This is kino.
The manga All You Need Is Kill is even better.
It's not time travel
>How is primer not good use of time travel?
The time travle in that movie is well thought-out, but it's a shit movie
read the OP you dingus
It is. Cruise travels back in time every time he dies.
No, time travels back for him
All right, but it's still time travel.
I didn't say it was a bad or good use of time travel, I just said the movie is reddit
Any time that time travel is just some insignificant thing thats used to beat the bad buys.
Star Trek is really guilty of this.
>hey how do we beat villian this week?
>one genius is like, "how about tome travel?"
>Oooh yeh, i forgot we knew how to do that!
No you didn't. You implied that the users who posted Primer are reddit users.
Has yet to be topped.
Twelve Monkeys
its a time travel joke
Best:
Twin Peaks: The Return
Worst:
Every other instance
>You implied that the users who posted Primer are reddit users
same difference
Im confused
I actually think The Return is one of the worst examples of it. There's something un-Lynchian about the concept of time travel imo
Timecop is the best movie about time travel ever made. Prove me wrong.
I liked how they used it. Cooper thought he was this all powerful timelord and Judy put a end to that notion right damn quick.
Harry Potter time travel makes sense. What's the issue?
I disagree. The result of Cooper's naivety is absolutely Lynchian.
Best
TNG "All Good Things..."
>why dont we spin the hourglass back 2 years and capture voldemort on Quirells head?
it doesnt really explore the concept. first scene is really cool, but then the only other era they go to is 20s wall street. such a waste
also all the scenes around the house are boring as fuck
>YOU CANT CHANGE THE PAST NO MATTER WHAT!!! WHATEVER HAPPENED HAPPENS!!
proceeds to go back in time and interact with characters from the past creating new interactions that didnt happen
Yeah, the comic is better indeed.
That ending... ;_;
Timecrimes ties up its loose ends so perfectly.
Probably my favorite time travel movie.
Better yet, go back 60 years and kill Voldemort
What? The return is the definition of lynchian and time travel was thematically consistent
I hate this.
Its like "well only the things that some unkown force deems important cant be changed like somebody dying"
Minor shit like regular conversation can be changed at will.
No there is nothing in it to make you think Judy was behind the final scene
If you watch Prisoner of Azkaban, you'll see that they don't actually change time, since they didn't know Sirius and the bird thing had been freed the first time. I'm sure somebody out there can explain it better than me, but basically time travel in HP is a closed loop
That's not true at all. Judy's Diner, for instance.
In T1 and T2 everything happens as it should in the timeline.
>Terminator comes back in time, fails to kill Sarah, leads to the development of Skynet and redpills Sarah
>Terminator comes back in time, fails to kill John, leads to the combat experience and training of JC under Sarah and Arnie, and shows them how to access a Terminator's CPU, which will turn the tide for the coming resistance
Instead of T3 telling us how Judgement Day occurred as it was preordained despite being seemingly averted in T2, showing us the war being won and the Terminators/guardians being sent back to tidily close the trilogy's loop, they decided to change the date of Judgement Day, messing up the neatness of the timeline so it could be opened up for unlimited milking.
The movie just outright sucked also.
Why didn't Kyle Reese tell Sarah about anything that happened in T2? Surely John would have mentioned it
Came here to post this. Excellent movie.
I just meant that I never would have expected Lynch to use time travel as an explicit plot element
Seems to work, everything they do after turning the hourglass was done prior to turning the hourglass. They even slot back into the future properly. HOWEVER it begs the question, why did it happen at all? It's not totally arbitrary I guess, but why does the magical artefact only perform in this one instance?
Are you asking why it isn't used more in the series? I actually don't know, it'd just overcomplicate the plot I suppose. The mechanics are sound, it's placement in the story isn't
T1000 is nightmare fuel that would sink soldier morale, plus in the war against the machines it wouldn't be cool to say you were once pally with one, and you fully intend to reprogram it to send back in time.
He even lied to Kyle that he was going to destroy the time machine after he went through because he was keeping him in the dark.
Time travel would be more addicting than smartphones but tv & movies its just something people forget about until they need to defeat a villian once in a while.
One of the best Denzel-kino.
Worst by far: Superman (1978)
There is no best because it''s always stupid.
Show is ok, but it got a little TOO meta in the 2nd season finale
How dare you!
Best: the novel that popularized it
Worst: all the hackshit that came after it
It was an awesome twist that was hinted at from the very beginning.
How is that movie reddit? It doesn't have a (((diverse))) cast nor political agenda.
>octopus on the ceiling
Do Americans really do this?
Personal favorite is Time Bandits. Does it make sense, or conform to everyone's idea of what time travel is? No, and I don't care.
If you buy into the idea of multiple universes, then time travel as a one-way experience, created new loops for yourself is fine. It would be subjective to the consciousness of the character - they didn't travel in their original timeline, they spawned a new one where they did, but they can't go back to report on the new one. Or something like that. I treat time travel like dragons, or UFOs - cool idea, but it's fantasy until I can see one for myself.
Worst? That title goes to Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
>Characters go back in time to prevent the creation of Godzilla and believe they succeed despite literally nothing changing and everyone remembering him. The best thing about the movie violates its own established rules of time travel.
I dare anyone to find something worst than this example. It's actually impossible.
it's about engineers in their 20s having realistic conversations and is "smart" but fails massivelly as a proper movie
Absolute nonsense. By that logic its predetermined and time travel has no effect except to accomplish something thats already happened. Nonsensical.
>no one mentioned Predestination
It'a a good movie. Stick with MCU flicks. They're written for children such as you.
Fuckin BTFOd
Holodomor? Reactionary propoganda at its worst.
Terrible film and highly predictable. Any sane person could spot the makeup and connect the dots from a mile away.
time travel is fundamentally impossible
every movie using that cliche is basically retarded
>if you hate X it means you love Y
"You are incorrect."
Time travel inst "impossible". Changing the "timeline" by going backwards and therefore altering the present/future is.
How did Gale create a time machine for Lalo, I thought he was a chemist?
I know it makes no sense but seeing a superhero turn back time by spinning the world the other direction works by sheer pulp logic.
>science fiction is fiction
check out the big brain on Brad
futurama made an only-forwards time travel episode, which is a plaussible alternative
the whole premise of the series was about that, too
heh
go octopus like to cuddle
1997, good movie.
More a loop than time travel I think.
I think DBZ needs to be remade all over just to fix it's Terminator story.
It's actually one of the best, and I will fight you. Godzilla in the original 1954 is 50 meters tall. When he returns in the Heisei continuity, he's around 80 meters tall, much bigger and stronger. There's no explanation for this until vs Ghidorah show the Godzillasaurus was moved to the Bering sea where he was exposed to more nuclear energy than the Bikini tests did, thus giving us the even bigger Godzilla in 1984. Everyone still remembers it because if time travel were to happen, it would already have had taken effect in the present. It retroactively establishes why things are the way they are. He was just chilling in the Bering when the new Nuclear Submarine made him a 100 meter tall monster to fight Ghidorah.
Timecrimes and Triangle.
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Best one: Song of the Land (2014)
Worst one: Express 831 (2008)
The best and most realistic.
Would be cool to see a sort of anthology series of time travelers journeying through alternate pasts and futures to see all sorts of "possible" Earths and their inhabitants. Just a spec-evo project playing DnD with the rules of nature and evolution.
Nice
Subtle time travel that doesnt really need nerdsplaining due to it not being a time travel movie until the end.
Doesn't hold water. Godzilla '54 and Heisei Godzilla are two different creatures. It's the offficial Toho stance on the material and its stated in a later movie. You don't even need the time travel shenanigans to explain the increased exposure to radioactivity. Heisei Godzilla simply had more time to grow and be exposed to it. Godzilla's size increase between Godzilla vs Biollante and Godzilla vs King Ghidorah can be explained by the exposure to Shindo's submarine. Only the characters who traveled through time should remember Godzilla in the post-time travel world. But we see that everyone does and later movies confirm that nothing changed. The lack of changes should have been a dead giveaway that something went wrong. But the character unambiguously confirm they believe Godzilla was wiped from history and the whole point of the mission was so that Godzilla never existed in the first place. It's terrible writing.
Came to post this
The Jacket had one of the most interesting concepts of time travel for me, and it's got Adrien Kino in it
Steins;Gate is probably the best execution of time travel in a story I can think of.
Looper, while not the best, has a very interesting take on it that I enjoyed.
And then in the first movie they're using time travel like there's no tomorrow.
>best
Pic related
>worst
Almanac
Endgame.
Whats the one where the guy is his own father, mother and son?
Time travel in Harry Potter is not science but magic. In Prisoner of Azkaban time is not predeterminated, just allow you to "visit" the past. Present is the actual result of several acts on the past, so you cant change the future because present was already affected. In the books they stated you cant travel too far in time, just a few days.
HP haves one of the more cohesive timetravel logic ever. Better than back to the future, but it helps a lot that is just a plot device for a small part of the film.
Best: Terminator 1&2.
Worst: Looper.
>he didn't see it coming by 2x22
The demonstration of yours is dumbfounding. When he gets there he'll already be there. He goes 430, he's Richard with Linda. He will kill two birds with one stone. You think an angelion daimon will lead him astray? What did you think in 2x01, that Señor Droolcup had come to finish him off?
True. Endgame sucks
I’ve been playing Mortal Kombat 11 and it’s time travel story has been pretty bad ass so far.
>Timecrimes and Triangle.
patrician
This.
It really does. It blows my mind that Bill and Ted is more respectful of its own time travel rules than a movie series that built for 22 films just to step all over its own dick with a poorly considered asspull.
Looper is complete dogshit that breaks its own rules because it was written by a fucking retard. If you doubt me, I invite you to consider the cross-temporal amputation scene.
What about "Next? Nicolas Cage can see two minutes in the future but when he finds Jessica Biel he can see even further
Learn to recognise the signs of a stroke
in primer, you can potentially clone any object no?
I enjoyed Click, Butterfly Effect and About time
Predestination
Time Crimes
12 Monkeys
All top tier time travel movies. One is the movie you're requesting but not saying which because spoilers.
I know it was trashy sometimes, but I really enjoyed Timeless. Plus it had Lucy and that ER doctor.
Time travel exists but its only used by the mafia to dispose of bodies by sending them into the past.
I still love the first Butterfly Effect.
Fight me.
T2 is literally about how they succeed in stopping judgement day, dipshit.
Dragon Ball Z does it best, because it creates another new timeline, you can't fix the timeline you travel from
End Game letting them travel to where ever & leaving the timelines broken only to say "lol it will correct itself" was a cop out
Garbage fucking movie.
Honestly a very enjoyable movie
>murder is so difficult to commit and get away with in the future we have to send people back in time and kill them
>killing Bruce Willis' wife has no consequences
One of the best time travel stories in any medium is A Sound of Thunder from Ray Bradbury, but the movie is uncut dogshit.
web1.nbed.nb.ca/sites/ASD-S/1820/J%20Johnston/short%20stories/A%20Sound%20of%20Thunder%20with%20questions%20--Ray%20Bradbury.pdf
What the fuck is this
Best: Terminator 1
Worst: Terminator 2
Gets a lot of hate but one of the most unique takes on time travel ever on film
>Dragon Ball Z does it best, because it creates another new timeline, you can't fix the timeline you travel from
Based. The entire Android and Cell Saga is kino.
Retarded, you mean.
No, thats not what i mean.
I meant unique.
The time travel in MIB 3 was utter dogshit
Looper is Underrated
It doesn't have to make sense. If you can't handle that kind of feat, you just don't like Superman.
All time travel is lazy AND/OR bad
Yes. It's not shit on nearly as much as it deserves.
This one. I saw the twist coming but the acting in this by the chick is just so goddamn good.
>Show me another movie which resolves the grandfather paradox with its internal logic.
- Timecrimes
- Interstellar
- Summer time Machine Blues
- The Time travellers wife
- Bill and Teds excellent adventure
- 12 Monkeys
- Terminator 1
- Harry Potter Azkaban
All have perfect causality loops
Latest book destroys that theory because their kids go back in time and do change shit using the last remaining time-turner and it has a lasting effect on the timeline. Rowling is just a shitty writer.
Endgame's Time Travel is a complete fucking mess.
best:
>marty mcfly
worst:
>all of dr. who
spoil me please
It's not really a theory, it's explicitly explained that way in the book by Harry himself. She just got lazy.
Harry obviously isn't an expert on time travel, is he? But I am.
that's fair
that isn’t even what happened
Agents of SHIELD season 5 was time travel kino
It's a bad movie for pretentious hacks who'd say shit like what you just said.
>Felt more like respawning in a video game, but it nailed that feel.
That's actually exactly what it was done up to be like.
Frequency was a good movie with a poorly thought out time travel gimmick
Posting the Ultimate Time Travel Kino
Good examples:
Déjà Vu – works for me, is self-contained and decently explained without overly convoluted theory talk. It shows instead of telling, which is really well executed.
Harry Potter and The Prisoner of Azkaban – I might get a lot of shit for this, but I like the idea here, especially when it gets to the point, where he can perform the Patronus because he already saw himself perform it previously. It's a nice inversion of the usual time travel paradoxes. Would have been great as a standalone idea, hugely problematic when seen as part of the entire series. Probably influenced the Endgame rule of bringing back the Infinity Stones to not change other timelines.
Source Code – this one is absolute god tier. It gets somewhat wacky towards the end to deliver a bittersweet kind-of-happy-end, but if you can live with that, it's one of the best (if not the best) time travel film I can think of right now.
Next – really underrated film, due to a mismatched leading couple and the general dislike for Nicolas Cage. A lot of people feel it violates its own premise, but if you take a close look it doesn't ("except with her"). Still, the end really makes the film quite meaningless, but throughout there is some interesting stuff going on.
Maybe i'm a brainlet but I don't understand the complaint. You mean like when she told him her middle name? I don't remember POV ever leaving Cruise
>no Bill and Ted's excellent adventure
Ya'll niqqas gay
Bad examples:
Bad:
Terminator Genisys – compared to the fuckery going on in this one, the previous ones look like masterpieces. Nothing makes any sense whatsoever.
Days of Future Past – Literally just a plot device to somehow connect the two generations of X-Men, internal logic and previous film events are just entirely ignored and botched together without any sense whatsoever.
Looper – while it has some good ideas about how time loops could work, there were too many conflicting elements for me personally.
It's not unique, and you're retarded for thinking it is.
The ending was so good. Being an allegory for the battle never truly ending, I have never reread a light novel as many times as I had with all you need is kill.
Forgot Edge of Tomorrow, it's really good right up to the very end. The reset to a different starting point is really stretching it, but can be explained away with some headcanon.
It is unique, you are retarded for many other reasons besides your retarded opinion on this.
I get it, i hate Ashton Kutcher too. No need to flaunt retardation about it though.
Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
>Best
Minutemen
MK11
That Tom Cruise Lovecraftian Mecha Movie
BttF
>Worst
Justice League
Endgame
Quite honestly any superhero movie because people take that shit so seriously and its fucking with people's acceptance of failure.
>ctrl+f
>no La Jetée
Steins;gate is the best I’ve seen so far. If it’s a singular movie that I’d have to pick it would be Predestination, it was done well.
Not Canon :)
How about this cannon, numbskull
*blasts cannon in your face*
This
I love Steins;Gate but did they ever explain how deleting Okabe's original "somebody stabbed Kurisu" email from SERN's servers on the 17th of august caused the email to not be sent on the 28th of july? The server itself doesn't affect time, so why would deleting the email affect the past?
I haven't seen too many shitty ones, but the best I've seen is Arrival.
FAQ about time travel
I like looper
This, though moreso for the first Bill and Ted movie.
I was really impressed someone even came up with that kind of shit for time travel.
>"Durr, come on Ted, if we just remember to travel back in time after evertyhings finished and put the thing here, it should be here right now!"
I can't find any flaws with that kind of logic.
Essentially, they make the rookie mistake of trying to have it both ways, at times acting as if they're in a paradox-proof multiverse sort of scenario, at others, as if they're in a causal loop.
They even go double-retard and act as if it's possible to take an item from that alt timeline, then later re-enter it and return it. That shouldn't be possible, and it's one of the reasons I find their exchange with the Ancient One so hilarious. If anyone should understand this shit, it's her. The only person who'd have a chance in hell of pulling off something like that is Dr. Strange.
there is nothing wrong with looper
It's a really boring answer but my favourite was probably the way it was used in GoT. Minimal, impactful but at the same time doesn't actually change anything
Motherfuckin nipah
TAKE THAT YA DINOSAUR
you talking about the part where they get to the barn and cruise reveals to her (and the audience) that hes tried this part of the mission 50 times but she never makes it past that point? i loved that part/swerve
HEY
BORIS THE ANIMAL
underrated. dont know if it technically counts as time travel though?
Has anybody in this thread mentioned how fucking bizarre octopuses are?
Doctor Who is the best example. The books anyway. Faction paradox and their time weapons are fucked. Bullets that are literally destined to kill as soon as they're fired.
T1 was internally consistent time travel (closed loop)
T2 wasn't (it hadn't happened before)
Show is better
>come from a race sworn to protect time for aeons
>they all die
>decide that you can twist time how you want now
>time is basically sentient and cucks your every attempt
kek
No, T2 is about how they MIGHT be able to avert it
fucking pleb
>Steins;gate
>best time travel
Retard.
Ironically, the worst time traveling movie(Kate & Leopold) also stars Hugh Jackman.
wtf is this movie, i managed to find literally zero reviews on it
Could it be worse than The Fountain??
Also a terrible time traveling movie starring Hugh Jackman
possibly. lol. I never finished watching "the Fountain"
The Fountain isn't a time travelling movie.
It is awful though.
First sentence of google summary
>A man (Hugh Jackman) travels through time on a quest for immortality and to save the woman (Rachel Weisz) he loves.
Watch the movie.
I tried, much like that other guy said. I couldnt finish it.
>numale weeb
>watching films that requires a brain
You mean it's the only one you've seen
Thoughts?
someone post the .gif
you know the one
All the ones that used to be hilarious when he dressed up like a girl are creepy as fuck now
Best: pic related
Worst: Who cares? Just forget all of them even exist. Not worth your brain-space.
Harry Potter's time travel logic is the most sensible.
You effectively can't change the past at all, because everything you do in the past happened before your own present. For example, when Harry is saved from the dementors by the lake it was actually himself from the future that saved him. Every event they perform in the past already happened before they went back.
Rowling isn't the best writer, but she got time travel right and logical.
Which 12 Monkeys should I watch? Wasn't it remade like 3 times?
I think it was just a movie in the 90s that became a show a few years ago
nope. There was quite ok tv show
>Ctrl-F Groundhog Day
>No results
Are you people serious?
As far as I'm concerned time loops are a different thing entirely.
Yeah, well, you're wrong
youtu.be
Bet you haven't watched this kinou
Dreams
If you go to sleep and wake up back in time then you are dreaming.
ah-bloo-bloo
>Someone's criticism of a movie is that the time travel isn't realistic enough!
All time travel use is bad.
Wow, wearing t-shirts with cartoons on them was considered retarded back then.
What an era!
scifi doesnt excuse retardation
outside unknown forces controlling the time travel while the character has no control of it = good
People controlling the time travel all sciencey and techbabble = lame
Best:
>Outlander
Worst:
>STD
What about time travel with regular people using it but they have no idea how it works?
literally Primer. Also it was shit
Depending on who the next big-bad is, it might be that way on purpose.
Never watched it. Probably never will.
On another note, what does Yea Forums think of 11/22/63?
I thought it was really good especially considering it went under the radar
the show was just a generic timetravel show like pic related.
Had nothing but the name from 12 monkeys.
I think it was more like a cloud atlas kind of story without the shit makeup.
There are an assload of things wrong with Looper.
based and thanks
The first season followed it correctly. Fortunately they dropped the desease theme after that. Time travel part was much better
Still fun movie
what was wrong with looper?
the time part was retarded.
That's actually the simpliest way to display time travel with sense.
Time being a sequence of events that is a fixpoint when you experienced it.
>only-forwards time travel episode
It's not time travel, it's not aging
>TFW you're your own father and child
No, it's literally about them stopping it. There is absolutely no indication that they've failed in doing so. The entire movie is about Sarah coming around to the idea that judgement day isn't inevitable and that they do have the power to change the future. Only an actual autist would insist on the shittiest version of time travel holding true in the face of everything that happens throughout the film.
Planet of the Apes
Its just a different version of time travel that lets you actually kill your young dad, and wont result in some cliche causality loop paradox shite that destroys the entire universe!
I would reserve the use of retarded for movies where the rules dont remain consistant, Looper just uses different rules with unexpected consequences. If I am forgetting something that breaks the in-movie rules then yes it is retarded and i look forward to the incoming corrections.
>use of time travel causes unforeseen changes to the timeline
You're right, totally unique. Literally never before seen in any time travel story before or since.
Yeah, in a fantasy/trash scifi setting.
Dirk Gently is the only show to do it right.
When they mutilated that guy’s past self to make him turn himself in, at one point they even cut off his legs. That means he would have lived his whole life without legs. If he never had legs how the fuck did he drive himself to the building? Where’s his wheelchair? How come he was still a Looper if he was disabled?
yea, of course, when you consider cause and effect and cross it with destiny the guy should have entered the time machine a man and left it as a stump, or he never enters the machine once they cut off his trigger finger, or something else i dunno.
I havent rewatched it for quite a while... but looper gives us a different set of rules, mainly
effects of the hitmens actions affect the looper at the instant they happen (I.e both young and old joe deal with young joes actions from the same moment forward)
it is like the causality chain snaps from the travelers future older self to his present day older self. wew
I know its a weird way to do things and not explored in other media that i am aware, but from memory the movie sticks to this rule
>old joe telling young joe that "I remember things as you do them"
>getting headaches from close interactions with his younger self
>scars appearing as the wounds are cut
>limbs dropping off as they are dismembered
>old joe fading away as young joe sudokus
I think there was something about old joe not really caring about where young joe was going until young joe realised the kid had telekinesis (dont quote me on that one) but the fact that he didnt follow young joe straight to the farm means he didnt remember the farm yet.
I guess you are within your right to call the different rule retarded, but for me looper did a good job (iirc) of sticking to its rules.
being fair, what it fails to is properly establish the need to kill people in the past at all, or why future mobsters carry leathal weapons at all if they go through all the trouble of sending people back to be murdered.
The second season finale of Future Man has the best time travel depiction I’ve ever seen.
>Protags are running to defuse a bomb
>They can travel back in time, but their physical location remains the same
>they can’t make it to the bomb in time so they keep jumping back in time by 15 seconds as they run to it
>Everytime they time travel back their is an other earlier version of them selves 15 seconds behind them.
>Every group created keeps running and recursively creating more versions of themselves
>most of the versions realize they aren’t the the group in front and are useless so they time travel off somewhere else
>the protags defuse the bomb and are then arrested by future police because they created hundreds of copies of themselves that went on to wreak havoc across time.
That's why Hermione uses it for studying/taking more classes and why it's not a plot hole that they don't kill Voldo with it.
The time turner might be the only good non-derivative bit of worldbuilding that JK has ever done and everyone shits all over it for some reason.
Primer sucks ass like you
Very good!
With the new movie, the chronology goes T1 - T2 - T6.
best: 41
worst: timecrimes
What was the very first time travel story in history?
Where did the idea of traveling through time originate?
>Best
Fucking your grandma and becoming your own grandfather (Futurama s3e19 Roswell That Ends Well)
>Worst
Not fucking your mom EVEN IF SHE'S BEGGING FOR IT (Back to the Future)
it happens every time it happens
>has no effect except to accomplish something thats already happened
so like literally anything else that happens?
Just like starving people who can only think about food, we have people like you who can only think about sex.
T3 fucked up by saying John was 13 in T2, which would have required T2 to have taken place AFTER Judgement Day, which it didn't.
my only problem with triangle is how are there so many guns? if the bodies and necklaces stack, wouldn't the guns and ammo eventually run out.
here is a good explanation... I was too brainlet to get it
youtu.be
and why did the food go from bad to good in different scenes before the next loop started?
>surely John would have mentioned it
Like how he told him "ok, Da... I mean Kyle, don't forget to fuck my mom as soon as possible because you're going to die pretty quickly. Like, she defeats the Teminator by herself after you've died, so you don't really need to try too hard. Just make sure you don't pull out when you blast your load."
>ctrl+f "time squad"
>no results
Are you guys retarded?
Review from a youtube comment on the trailer
>I think that Joelle Carter, Mischa Barton, Greta Gerwig and Jocelin Donahue are so hot and gorgeous that I wish they would marry me. I give all four of them a 5 out of 5. They are winners to me. Joelle, Mischa, Greta and Jocelin if you are watching this video I hope you women keep up the good work.
Some people said 12 monkeys so good enough I guess
It’s an idea as old as time itself: a lot of regions and places have the idea of a man who goes to the future as rather an unfortunate consequence of meeting with a higher power: similar to if you traveled through space and back to earth. Wasn’t until the early 1800’s when the idea of going backwards in time began. But this was similar in style to the more religious/folklore elements of the earlier stories, where it wasn’t caused by science but rather by magical, mysterious means.
First true Science Fiction time travel story is HG Wells’ The Time Machine. The protagonist travels forward to a future where humans have evolved into two different groups: one a docile, childlike race, and the other underground dwelling monsters who feed upon the former.
It’s an okay story. I like The Invisible Man better. Or a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court.
I’m not sure if A Christmas Carol counts since it’s mostly just visions of the past and future, and he cannot affect either. It doesn’t make it much different than divination or prediction.
>DUDE IM A LIBRARY LMAO
Fuck interstellar that movie was dumd as shit
>scrolling
>no mention of looper
>ctrl F
>first one "look is good guys"
thank fuck the rest of you know its shit besides that one ape.
>I’m not sure if A Christmas Carol counts since it’s mostly just visions of the past and future, and he cannot affect either.
Yet Scrooge does affect a change in his future vision provided by the GofCYTC, by changing his present behavior.
Back to the Future?
Going back in time by reading stuff that you wrote isnt something ive seem before that
But ya know
>its not unique if i can point out any similarity to anything else
>Future humans help present humans
>Set up a wormhole far out in the solar system leading to multiple planets
>Don't set up wormhole a short distance from Earth with only one possible destination
>Don't send the black hole equations back in plain English with relevant mathematical notation that will immediately be understood
Future humans had NO reason to be so obtuse
Great time travel flick
It makes zero sense for the future to change post T2, considering nothing changed after the time travel fuckery that happened in T1.
Sarah Connor was a fucking lunatic, and the "No Fate" message passed down by future John is a hollow message of optimism to inspire the mission's success.
I hope to christ you're not using the unused ending where Judgement Day doesn't happen in' 97 and John Connor, dropout foster child turned America's most wanted, becomes a senator, as justification for your opinion, because that stupid ass shit wasn't used for good reason.
Everything after T1 is a complete clusterfuck. Only closed loop time travel works, everything else is impossible. If Skynet is stopped in the past then the time machine will not be built and Kyle and the T800 will not be sent back and Sarah will live a normal life and not stop Skynet back in the past etc. etc.