how would Yea Forums fix Harley as a character?
How would Yea Forums fix Harley as a character?
Make her a villain again and stop pretending she's a symbol of female empowerment
let her live a regular life
I'd replace her at this rate, tbqh.
Replace her with a big titty Gogh girl.
You'll get your new Asian waifu and like it dammit
I want Harley and this chick to get together if only so Ivy is finally free and can do her own stuff again
Make her get hurt, I just can't take the "I'm crazy gurl with a hammer who is craaaaaaaaaaaazy and will totally kill you, tee hee" shtick because she doesn't get hurt at all.
>I want Harley and this chick to get together
You greedy yurifags are NEVER happy, are you? But I can at least agree about Ivy getting the fuck away from Harley so she can be a character again. They're actually on a break right now
Give her a 12 part monthly comic series where she is FtM trans just to watch the internet meltdown.
You can´t fix what was never made right.
give her back to joker
This, she started as fapbait so as long as she makes a single peepee hard, she'll be fulfilling her intended purpose
The best would be if Harley Quinn and Catwoman became a couple, so Poison Ivy and Batman could be free from these shitty characters.
No just stop, stop already. Quit trying to shackle Harley to people. She's dead weight
But Catwoman is also dead weight.
quit fag/feminist baiting. She is nothing but joker's coom rag.
No, she's not. King's just a terrible fucking writer. Chances are you can't write for shit either given all you can think about is shipping.
This
quit trying to make her a "role model", it's not working.
have the joker die after Harley's Holiday and Bruce save her from committing suicide.He checks on her to see how she's doing. It eventually morphs into semi dating. Something happens to bruce and she saves him. She sees that she likes saving people. Slowly tries to prove herself as robin or batgirl. Could be part of a one off series where savable villains are redeemed and the crazy ones get their stupid selves killed being crazy shits.
Or she never met the joker and started her career at waynetech. Or she treated Ivy first and actually helped her.
The first few seasons of BTAS are the best for her character and show the most promise for change. Either you move forward with her progressing as a person, or you just keep making harley/joker episodes, or they get themselves killed. OR I guess its implied she ends up alone and bitter like Batman Beyond but I dont know if that is really fixing her.
I don't know if you can fix the most current Harley. They're pushing really hard for her to be unsympathetic. That she's just a nut that kills people. Personally I think they're shooting themselves in the foot. Yeah, they want to make her a strong person, but when you remove her motivation for being a criminal and just write it off as "she always been bad" you lose opportunities for change. Like, are we really to believe that current HQ is just going to wake up one day and realize she shouldn't murder and rob people? She claims to have always been that way. How does someone just change their character that far into adulthood?
Its far easier to believe that she can repair her trauma and return to who she was before joker, than it is to believe she can do a 180 midlife.
would race swap her from wh*te to brown. very progressive. white women are overrepresented compared to other poc women.
>No, she's not.
Yes, she is. She only has one good run and even in that run she was a shitty person that had nothing going other than love triangle drama bullshit. She has always been a dead-weight bringing Batman down.
>indian harley with a big nose, big ass, and big tits
I'm game
>would race swap her from wh*te to brown. very progressive. white women are overrepresented compared to other poc women.
how about making her a trap that looks like the deedees. Oh all the gay jokes he could make against robin. And rub up on bats and robin to make them feel uncomfortable.
stop trying to make her the DC version of Deadpool
Make Robley Quinn canon.
This or have her go back to being Harleen Quinzel.
I really think the only way she could be good without the joker is if she reformed. Like if she actually adopted Joker's outlook why would she hate him? Everything he did to her should just be funny to her. If she doesn't actually have his outlook why is she evil?
Give her a bulge.
fpbp
The whole thing that made her interesting in the first place was her psychotic obsession with the Joker and now they’re trying to make her into a completely different character without him.
Make her a kryptonion.
Make her a man and The Joker's desperate sissy slut
>Gogh girl
more BRAPs
also this. Feminists ruin everything.
which direction does the rape go? Didn't she basically rape Nightwing in Batman and Harley Quinn?
Ask Morrison to write her book.
i wouldn't id sooner reboot the entire DC again, there are different version of her and i like only certain ones, quit being babies and get over it, your classic Harley still exists, any time a new artist or writer takes over to control a character and makes changes i consider it a whole new character version of the first as a new alternative universe timeline.
Full-package futa 7 inches erect or no sale.
>how would Yea Forums fix Harley as a character?
Remember THIS? Go more in that direction, give her back the superpowers and magic spess hammer and all that shit then boot her fabulous ass out into space with a crew harlequin/clown/mime-themed pirates looting, burning and pillaging whole planets while fighting off people like Imperiex and Mongul. Back on earth the Joker would be insanely jealous because while he's totally unknown in the wider universe Harley's name is spoken in terrified whispers as far out as the Andromeda galaxy.
Fixing Harley would require fixing Joker.
Fixing Joker would require fixing Batman.
Fixing Batman would require fixing DC's entire approach to comics these days.
At which point you're talking about making big changes to the whole industry.
Basically I highly recommend that people do everything they can get away with once Batman enters public domain in 2031. Start burning the empire to the ground.
By default, wouldn't Joker be "insanely" anything, no matter what that thing was?
KILL IT
CONSIDER IT MERCY
Whatever, I just want my space-pirate Harley, is that so much to ask?
The chances of WB or DC doing anything great with Harley in the next 20 years are pretty slim.
You got a perty comic from the lesbian pron artist. That's your gift for this decade.
The perfect version of her was already done.
Co has no idea how to write a good character
Less tank girl
More classic btas Harley.
You can safely ditch the obsession with the Joker and still have her interesting. What's more important is that she have elements of self-delusion or codependency, because at the end of the day Harley should be her own worst enemy.
Cock and balls, no vagina. I'm not here for any of that "technically not gay" shit.
I don't know what Co is.
yes but big tittied
Tank Girl is fun times.
>technically not gay
I don't care about that. I've had sex with guys.
But futa without a vagina, just isn't futa.
She is, and she doesn't need some mainstream rip off merchant stealing her style.
I feel like if tank girl came out now she's be bigger than Harley.
I got you boys back right here.
I think going with White Knights idea modern Harley is literally just some emo hot topic bitch who accidentally fell into the roll after the real Harley up and left is a good idea.
The modern version just has so little to do with the original design, personality and intention of her they are not even the same.
The super feminist role model shit needs to stop. You an empower her but she doesn't need to be a bisexual, whore, roller derby player.
How avant garde.
>Becomes an aspect of Primal Chaos
>The Fun Part
Make her like Post-Crisis Harley again.
Horse gangbang?
Harley has become a parody of her female fans. I wouldn't be surprised if dc did a focus group in a mall out in California and just copied a "tell us about yourself" form the fans filled out.
It's so obvious because its completely at odds with who she was prejoker and in btas.
Does anyone believe she current harley could get a PhD? Even if she sucked and fucked her way through?
Play into her having been a psychiatrist more. She acts like a complete airhead retard when she should be cunningly persuasive and insightful of others while either in an evil, anti-hero or good phase.
I wouldn't do anything as there's nothing wrong with Harley to fix. Yea Forums's hateboner for Harley is equal parts nostalgia and misogyny, everyone her has convinced themselves that feminist must have corrupted Harley as opposed to decade long character development.
If Harleen proved anything, it’s that Dr.Quinzel is far more interesting than Harley Quinn. Hell that’s what a reformed Harley should be
>Does anyone believe she current harley could get a PhD? Even if she sucked and fucked her way through?
Oh boy, time for me to do something I don't do very often.
Time for me to put on my feminist thinking cap.
Right, best way to fix Harley. Make it clear that she's smarter than she lets on. She's effectively a BPD mess and that doesn't necessarily make you stupid. Make it clear she's been playing herself down for years because the Joker doesn't like anyone in the room to be smarter than he is.
And make it so she's been working on him. All that suffering, all that pain, all that abuse? Part of her attempts to fix him.
When she gives up on it (or it finally becomes clear she can't fix him/he bails on her) she's so worn down and has lost so much self-esteem that she doesn't even know who she is anymore under the make up.
But yeah, main thing? Bring her back up to being smart enough to be a full on PhD at one of the most dangerous hospitals in the world, while focusing on the following byronic flaws: Her personality disorder, her placing her self-esteem value in the hands of others, her habitual submission/playing dumb/acting on irrational impulse whenever anyone that intimidates her is factored into the situation and the fact she's kind of the reverse of the joker.
He had one bad day and nothing can fix it. She kind of needs one good one and a shedful of medication.
Man, I loved Harleen. Nu Harley is irredeemable at this point.
You can't. She's one of the most trashiest mistakes DC have ever created. Harley Quinn is a Ms. White girl who's, for the lack of a better term, loved by white women for all the wrong reasons.
Βy bringing back classic, iconic Harley Quinn that everyone knows and love.
>Right, best way to fix Harley. Make it clear that she's smarter than she lets on. She's effectively a BPD mess and that doesn't necessarily make you stupid. Make it clear she's been playing herself down for years because the Joker doesn't like anyone in the room to be smarter than he is.
Love to see this but so few people know how to write smart people. Like, they usually cheat by making everyone else dumber.
Also the way dc makes her strong now is at odds with this type of writing. She's just a female joker now. They retconned thenold harley into someone that was always evil and crazy and mean. And they want her to stand alone as stronk woman.
Ideally you'd put her into a team and have her use her dr skills to solve problems and slowly come back out of her shell. Like have her help batman and her ability to figure out the riddler or penquin helps solve the case and instead of everyone being angry with her, she receives praise.
But this would also require one more thing that dc wont do, pay an expert to advise as a therapist so the writing is believable. DC will never pay for this. So it will never happen.
Harley Quinn is basically the DCAU version.
Smart and did indeed work her way through college because the scholarships couldn't cover everything.
She is a thot who fucked her way through college and high school. And fucked for better grades. She was also emotionally disturbed
She's also abnormally talented at gymnastics.
She was only at Arkham to write a book. In the mind of madness.
However she met joker and instead of manipulating him..she was being manipulated and slowly poisoned.
She's also a major masochist.
So yeah.
Oh and the thing with ivy has to go. They are gal pals and the like.. but if they go down that road then they'll open the door for levels of sluttery that will lead to the current thing.
It's not rape if she wants it....or she has heart eyes and cums three times.
>"REEEEEEEEE, Harley isn't allowed to change costumes! DC really messed up the character by giving her different costumes!"
>"Why is Harley tired of being beaten by the Joker? She isn't supposed to! Now that she is tired of being beaten,m she isn't the perfect wyman I fell in love with back in 1995!"
>"Why do Harley Quinn comics pander to the far-left? "Gang of Harleys" is the most leftist thing since "Das Kapital""
>"Harley Quinn books are offensive to men"
>"Harley is a villain! Why does she occasionally teams-up with heroes! Villains teaming up with heroes is completely unheard off! Why is DC doing this?"
>>co is misogynist
>>co wants Harley to be redeemed, or receive therapy, or improve her self esteem and be a doctor again, or get her job back, or get married and have kids with someone that loves her
Oh yeah, co just hates women.
They're gonna hate you for speaking the truth.
You're just describing a less fun and competent version of Lorelei from superman3
Nearly all posts in this thread boil down to "MUH ORIGINAL COSTUME".
Like, what the fuck is "Nu-Harley"? What does hat mean? The character isn't with the Joker anymore nor she wears the same costume from 1993, but she is still the same character.
Harley fucking sucks as a forced female empowerment icon and lgbqta thing and shifty chick deadpool.
She worked best as what she was before. It allows for women to not be stuck in the heroine ghetto that dc has going.
She could remain fun. Harley shouldn't have to sacrifice her intelligence to come off as fun.
She really really isnt.
Comics harley isn't the harley that people like. Hell current movie harley isn't the harley that people like anympre.
Pretty much.
Only a smart person can write a smart person, or someone with far more time than deadlines allow.
But a dumb fuck can be written by anyone.
I just described the start of an arc user. It can go other places. The thing about creating characters is you can't write out the entire arc from the start and have it feel real.
>co wants Harley to be redeemed
No they don't, Half the time Yea Forums is complaining about how feminist are morally corrupt of their support of a woman leaving her abuser.
>get married and have kids with someone that loves her
Thinking that a woman needs to be in gendered roles like a housewife to be happy is chauvinistic.
You're bating pretty hard. No one is really talking about the costume.
If anything, people have suggested she dump all current costumes and either go back to civilian life or become robin or batgirl.
>Comics harley isn't the harley that people like.
Well, it's the comic that has been selling well for 6 years in a row now. So people dislike it but buy it anyway?
Did Old-Harley sell better than that? The majority of Marvel characters can't have an ongoing for 6 years.
>Thinking that a woman needs to be in gendered roles like a housewife to be happy is chauvinistic.
I didn't give a gender of her spouse. Ivy can put a quad in her laugh oven with the plant dick for all I care.
user Harley has always shown that she was intelligent. Just because she isn't saying smurt things and dressing up like a fucking librarian doesn't mean she's not intelligent.
Her dumbing herself down to fut in is retarded. She's not even the smartest woman in Arkham let alone smarter then joker.
The relationship dynamic you want to create will ruin the character even further and make her the equivalent of the smart housewife from sitcoms.
>Did Old-Harley sell better than that?
Yes? They keep reprinting those btas DVD sets for somebody.
No one likes you and feminists are all unhappy hate filled losers.
>Yes?
Show the numbers.
>They keep reprinting those btas DVD sets for somebody.
Are you implying that Harley is the sole reason BTAS is popular?
>The relationship dynamic you want to create will ruin the character even further and make her the equivalent of the smart housewife from sitcoms.
Could you be more transparent that you're intimidated by smart women?
The comic sales are to comic shops. Not to actual comic readers.
And they only sell well based on the popularity of the bats arkham asylum and suicide squad versions of her.
The comic version is quite honestly pointless trash
>Are you implying that Harley is the sole reason BTAS is popular?
It's a big enough reason. People are pretty vocal about liking that harley and that mr freeze.
>The comic sales are to comic shops. Not to actual comic readers.
So the stores are over-ordering Harley Quinn issues and taking the loss? Why would they do that? Do store owners love Harley so much that they will sacrifice their own money just to build an illusion of popularity for Harley Quinn?
>The comic version is quite honestly pointless trash
No more than any other comic book.
I'm not.
Smart woman attract me like moths to a flame.
I just think that you are more concerned with the idea and look of intelligence and a ridiculous power dynamic in relationships rather then the characters actual intelligence.
Not but I always figured NuHarley referred to how Adam Glass wrote her in the suicide squad for the nu52 Reboot, y'know where they tried to make her edgy and psychotic but Yea Forums uses NuHarley to describe how Dini wrote her back when he writing detective comics like leaving the joker and trying to turn over a new leaf.
Ir does make me wonder who is buying her current comics. I've never met anyone that reads them that doenst have a shopping list of issues they have with them. Like, do they just buy them out of habit now?
Yes user.
They do this for basically all comics.
Which is why the comic industry is dead.
And no. The comic version is quite honestly potentially detrimental to the popularity of the harley quinn ip.
Yes.
They buy them out of habit and because they hope it will be worth money.
Industry is dead.
For me the way Harley is being written right now is a pretty natural evolution to the character. She's not meant to stay in a abusive relationship with the joker, she is meant to leave him.
>Yes user.
>They do this for basically all comics.
They shouldn't all comics be as popular as Harley's are? Why aren't they?
Why can Harley have a popular ongoing during 6 years in a row while Ant-Man or Winter Soldier can't even hold a mini? Is it the fault of store owners?
I just told you. They pick up comics that they hope will sell or be worth something. And many times they are forced to pick up comics they dont want by diamond or the comic companies
There is no version of harley that is popular without the joker.
Why do you think they flip flop between chick joker and knock off deadpool?
Not that user but I find this hard to believe, that LCS across the country are all taking this loss and not saying anything.
I don't think they do that at all though.
>There is no version of harley that is popular without the joker.
She's popular now more than ever after leaving the joker.
>I just told you. They pick up comics that they hope will sell or be worth something. And many times they are forced to pick up comics they dont want by diamond or the comic companies
There's no such thing. You're making up a whole conspiracy to justify why Harley Quinn comics have sold well for 6 years in a row just because you don't wanna say that the fans of the character like it.
Store owners order the amount they expect to sell. If they order 20 HQ in January and only manage to sell 7, then they will order 10 for February.
Diamond is not forcing store owners to buy Harley Quinn. DC is not forcing store owners to buy Harley Quinn. Store owners buy Harley Quinn because they are able to re-sell it on a profit to their customers.
Fucking retard.
>There is no version of harley that is popular without the joker.
She has ditched the Joker in 2009 and her popularity has only gone up. This is just the incel inside you acting up.
>but Yea Forums uses NuHarley to describe how Dini wrote her back when he writing detective comics like leaving the joker and trying to turn over a new leaf.
I have not witnessed this since the release of suicide squad. Nuharley to me is the current solo comic + ss movie + bop movie + alt Harley in wk + hq series
She teeters back and forth with new and old harley in some of the newer animated movies
What is "NuHarley", dude? Describe it .
Other than wearing a different costume and not being with the Joker, what are the differences between "NuHarley" and "OldHarley"?
Yes but they've retconned her into female joker or dc deadpool tits.
Only the most die hard btas fans want her to stay with joker.
Other fans want btas harley to go good or stay bad with Ivy or someone similar.
>Nuharley to me is the current solo comic + ss movie + bop movie + alt Harley in wk + hq series
Those are all different characters tho.
>Why do you think they flip flop between chick joker and knock off deadpool?
Because no one at dc can write an intelligent funny woman so they rely on parodies of shit marvel has done or parodies of their own male characters?
That's how I have to read them, yes. Otherwise I turn into an autist.
Calling her a Deadpool knockoff is a brainless meme. Somebody said it once and all the idiots took it as fact. Apples and oranges are not the same just because they are both fruits.
>Otherwise I turn into an autist.
I think the opposite is true here.
Popular with mainstream feminists is the only true answer because that's the only difference.
Telltale Harley is an entierly different character with a Harley skin on top.
>She has ditched the Joker in 2009 and her popularity has only gone up. This is just the incel inside you acting up.
I dont think those things are related. Did anyone try a Harley book with her still with the joker? No. And how were the sales of her harley and ivy books?
Truth be told I think people just like Harley and will suffer whatever her face is on. You could put out a series with no dialog and she's just fucking up doing daily things like Wile e coyote or Donald duck and people would buy it. So I dont think you can really correlate sales to what people like about the character
keep her a villain instead of trying to force her to be an antihero
>Did anyone try a Harley book with her still with the joker
A 6vissue miniseries by timm and dini called Harley loves joker, it was non-canon and fun but it can never work with the modern joker.
>So I dont think you can really correlate sales to what people like about the character
That's very convenient for you, your truth is true even when it's evident that it's not.
>That's very convenient for you, your truth is true even when it's evident that it's not.
How can I vote with my dollars if I'm not offered product?
I've never met anyone irl that is 100% on her solo books. They're always "well there ok...but"
If we made a new thread asking what you would change about the current solo stuff, even have a list of things you didnt like.
You're so self absorbed.
They already did
With a much duller character
Hasn't her series done this? It just has her as a villain trying to make it big.
>it was non-canon and fun but it can never work with the modern joker.
This was evident even as far back as btas. She turned on him when it was clear he was going to nuke everyone.
She eventually split with her helping Ivy, but she never progressed past that. By justice league, that progress had been retconned and she was helping the joker again.
Writing her with the joker was a crutch by the end of btas
You guys needing to say she exists only because of another character are fucked up, this is just bullshit revisionism because most people hated Birds of Prey, they couldn't even care less about the Joker it was that they went too far with the feminism and desexualization and also made a PG-13 character into a R rated character.
She only turned on him because she was mad he wasn’t going to pick up Bud and Lou. Don’t go rewriting her history, because she later went on to drive Tim insane. BTAS Harley was not a good person
Her morality depends on how far you get into the series. It also depends on the episode.
But yeah, she's irredeemable by jl
Have her crawling back to the joker.
based
Give her back to the Joker and kill Ivy
Believe it or not.
BoP bombed.
user. SShow me numbers of actual fans buying her comics. Not what lcs are being forced to buy. There is no conspiracy theory.
This us a stone cold fact of reality.
Not a meme. A fact of reality.
>how would Yea Forums fix Harley
a bullet to the back of the head would be a good start
Id have her sit on my face.
More or less, it was an interesting change in dynamic though.
Make Harley more akin to how she was in Pre-New 52 days. Watch the Animated Series, or read 2009's Gotham City Sirens to get a better understanding on how to do it.
The Arkham Games are also an excellent representation of how to update the Harley character while still retaining the essence of the character. Alternatively, read the Harleen Graphic Novels that are coming out.
As for her costume, it needs to be reminiscent of her classic costume (Red and Black Color, Diamond Motifs, Jester Elements) but also sexy enough to be cool with the new kids. So definitely keep Harley having a bleached white skin, and dip-dyed blonde hair. Maybe have her outfit expose some cleavage and instead of sleeves, she wears long gloves with jester frills on her wrists.
This and keeping her as a funny secondary character. She can have few episodes where she is more important than usual, but her character does not work as an independant one
>But yeah, main thing? Bring her back up to being smart enough to be a full on PhD at one of the most dangerous hospitals in the world
Arkham doesn't have the best and smartest people as doctors being there should be a sign that she isn't good at her job
I prefer Harley when her goal as a doctor was just to write a tell all book about crazy killers and make boat loads of money
>Harley is a violent murderer
>Harley is a violent sex addict
>Harley is a violent torturer
>feminists in love
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Make her a stupid whore that latches on to alpha males and sabotages them with a mix of malevolence and stupidity, a soulless void that only lives to parasitize the bright golden masculine Sun-principle.
She needs to go out on a really sour note that subverts everything they've done to her. Batman rapes her until her psyche breaks and she returns to being harmless Dr. Quinzel who then marries a strong man (male) and is a stay at home mom for their eight children and is never heard from or about ever again.
No rape. Just gets hardcore todded by joker.
Then she quits.
Twin children Punch and Judy become heroes.
Why would batman rape her, you tool bag
>feminist thinking
Holy oxymoron Batman!
A series/movie arc that follows her drifting away and back to the Joker again and again, including Batman trying to get her help so he can take down the Joker who has been manipulating her since they first met in arkham.
Only to discover far too late certain notes and evidence point him to realise that he had it all wrong, Harley has been pulling the strings since Arkham and gaslighting Joker into thinking he was calling the shots when really she was just playing the part to string him along.
You get a twist climax, the "Yass queen" crowd, An actual detective scenario for Batman to unravel rather than just throw batarang drive batmobile, and Harley being actually competent for things other than breaking up with Joker because she is an independant grill. You can even go full to the ending with the Joker going full off the rails now that Harley isn't leading him by the nose.
It's hard to see her as a strong female character when everyone just fladerises her into the role of an abuse survivor and she is "So strong" in the same way a cancer riddled 7 year old with a face looking like it got hit with a weed whacker is "So beautiful.". We get the sentiment but come on.
>Make it clear that she's smarter than she lets on. She's effectively a BPD mess and that doesn't necessarily make you stupid. Make it clear she's been playing herself down for years because the Joker doesn't like anyone in the room to be smarter than he is.
She sucked and fucked her way to her degree. Stop pretending otherwise.
Get rid of her. She works as a short-term tragic character that either met a grim end or improved enough to save herself, not as DC's answer to Deadpool that moronic women look up to and applaud.
Yet she has never been more popular.
Twilight was popular too.
Cowards.
She became popular because of the DCAU cartoons where she was in love with the Joker, the Arkham games where she was in love with the Joker, and the Suicide Squad movie where she was in love with the Joker.
The moment a major feature was released where she and Joker aren't an item anymore shit bombed hard.
vat of chemicals
So a mix of Harleen and Harley's arc in White Knight?
* Get rid of Joker
* She earned her phd legit, didn't fuck her way to the top
* Interned or whatever at Arkham
* Went crazy do to some accident involving, I dunno, Poison Ivy
Done, fixed.
two-face too? or two?
Or maybe how about a world where Dent didnt get vat of chemicaled and Harley becomes two-face. over the edge about how you cant fix most criminals and what not
I would read alt takes where characters end up as other characters.
There is no indication of this in btas.
Do another dark knight movie were it looks like the joker has returned and harley is a rube, only to find out the joker is a fake and she's been the real leader the whole time.
Lose the suicide squad design and get rid of the cringy tattoos. Her adventures need to be batman free, because batman is too powerful. She needs to get away from everything that she used to play second fiddle to. She needs room to grow into her own niche.
How can Batman's horror and happiness of regular DC coexist?
Yup
The same could be said if New52's Fempool
Did the genie make it so her boobs where Kryptonian and that's why she couldn't support their weight?
It was in the comic "Mad Love" which was adapted into an episode.
Y'know the one that set the foundation for her character going forward and added the whole "Domestic Abuse" angle to her
If DC is anything like Marvel then they're never given an opportunity to voice their displeasure because the one time Marvel did that it had to go full damage control mode and shout "Racists! Racists!"
The main problem with Mad Love's depiction is that one cannot actually sleep their way to a PhD, nor does one get a grade on a PhD thesis. While comic books constantly get things wrong for various reasons, such an incredibly large break from reality for such a mundane thing hits suspension of disbelief pretty hard.
Back sometime around DCYou/Rebirth, Suicide Squad did an arc where they were fighting not!ISIS that I thought had a really great bit of characterization for Harley. When asked by Reverse Flash what she was like before a supervillain, she simply responded with, "Bored."
Well the one thing that is undeniably clear from that issue is that she slept with her Prof to pass her Thesis.
But that's not the point/ The point is the user I responded to said "There is no indication of this in btas" which is factually incorrect f you count the tie-in comic that got adapted into an episode.
You could argue about whether it's possible or impossible but the fact of the matter is that the original story had it happen.
Her sleeping with her professor was cut from the episode.
I think they maker design less male Gaze attuned, that way her character can shine over her "design"
Team her up with Scarecrow and have her show off that sexy Psychiatry PhD!
Fuck yeah.
yeah, the sleeping with the teacher was cut. So you can choose to ignore it if you want.
White Knight is pretty much doing that. Using harley's holiday but not the team up epsiodes with ivy
>The main problem with Mad Love's depiction is that one cannot actually sleep their way to a PhD, nor does one get a grade on a PhD thesis. While comic books constantly get things wrong for various reasons, such an incredibly large break from reality for such a mundane thing hits suspension of disbelief pretty hard.
harley is not a reliable narrator. For all we know, she is misremembering that because the Joker told her that to lower her self esteem and make her more controllable. Harley has a history of warping her own perspective to absolve Joker. She's already doing it when the cops find her after she was thrown from a window.
>Comparing nuHarley to an actually fun character like Tank Girl.
Disgusting.
>White Knight
Which is an AU and can just as easily be ignored.
Though the Pre-Flashpoint universe did have her earn her degree and also be a sociopath which was interesting