But seriously, why does Marvel's public still hate mutants so much? All mutants do now is try not to get genocided...

All muties must fucking hang

Even Claremont didn't harp on the prejudice angle as much as everyone thinks he did. The X-Men spent more time fighting space monsters, demons, and whatever the fuck Mojo is than they did systematic oppression.

Also, why are there no anti-discrimination laws for mutants yet? I could see 3rd world shitholes not giving a fuck, but how are all these Mississippi Burning-style lynchings happening in progressive nations without anybody having a problem with it?

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Because Mutants can appear just about anywhere and there’s no control over what tiers of powers they’ll have, ranging from having candy come out of their skin to causing a Tsar Bomba-tier explosion just by sneezing.

Didn't the X-Men free Sabertooth from jail after he murdered a whole bunch of people?

Of which paid from Shield's budget?

I know, but Claremont is the first person to really work the prejudice angle. Adaptations and retellings make it seem like X-men were always heavy on the prejudice when most pre-90s X-Men comics, and most 90s X-Men comics if we're being real, didn't really touch on it that much, if at all.

As for your second point, your pic is the result of a psychic controlling people IIRC. The comics themselves seem to waffle on whether or not anti-discrimination laws apply to mutants.

>Also, why are there no anti-discrimination laws for mutants yet? I could see 3rd world shitholes not giving a fuck, but how are all these Mississippi Burning-style lynchings happening in progressive nations without anybody having a problem with it?
Why do you need additional laws against killing humans? They never were anything else except in the minds of retarded writers and guys like Magneto with his superiority agenda.

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The F4 are an actual corporation and the Avengers are funded by Stark. While the Avengers frequently act as a PMC for SHIELD, they are more like private contractors than a part of actual SHIELD organizational structure.

Fun fact, the Avengers get their budget from the Maria Stark Foundation, a charitable endowment, meaning that Tony can write off Avengers expenses on his taxes.

O%

Wanda's got a point, mutants harping on about their mutantdom only exacerbates the issue, and the X-Men stupidly allying themself with known supremacists and genocidists made them lose any credibility, but Marvel's citizenry is still fucking retarded for carrying on with their discrimination and hate to such a retarded degree.

It's not that unreasonable when you consider that the most prominent mutant figure in the MU is a genetic supremacist terrorist who is not only open about his goals of total mutant supremacy through warfare but has also used nuclear blackmail to install himself as dictator. The second most prominent mutant figures in the MU are a secretive paramilitary organization with a penchant for child soldiers and a tendency towards quietly supremacist viewpoints who autocratically view themselves as the rulers of mutantkind. Now remember that these two frequently work together to the point that Mags has long-standing X-Men membership and many X-Men have joined the Brotherhood/Acolytes.

FUCK MUTANTS

But seriously, why does Yea Forums still hate furries so much? All furries do now is post on /trash/ or talk about zootopia, and half the time they end up getting their threads deleted anyway.

The answer to both is that it's a toxic meme people perpetrate because they like having someone to hate and blame, or get their jollies from the suffering of others.

Retarded Marvel citizens asisde, I think writers just have no idea what to do with the X-Men once they stop being ostracized. To fully accept mutants means completely restructuring how their world work, even digging the Hero Registration Act back up

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>Hero Registration Act
Civil War will forever be worse than Countdown or Final Crisis

That would make an interesting X-Men villain.
The Ally. A human who wants a pro-mutant world, giving the X-Men everything they wanted just not in the way they wanted. Developing anti-telepath technology for personal privacy or area denial for public spaces. Mutant suppressant hormones, so mutant puberty can be delayed until they're older to decide if they want to be a mutant. Power suppression in schools, so kids don't activate accidentally and hurt people.

Humans hate regular superheroes all the time. >Spidey has to fight fake news from the Bugle 24/7 to be a hero irregardless of what people think of him.
>Hulk is still seen as a monster and people celebrated his multiple deaths
>Cap & Tony have had many detractors both foreign and domestic calling them arrogant asshats/warmongers. Both government shills and average joes have had their picket signs against them.
>Hank Pym was going through several breakdowns from bad PR along with Janet taking advantage of him, he's now a villain because of one slap when he was literally insane and Janet made him that way.
>Herc & Thor have been REEE'd at lately for being toxic males by YAAS QUEEN Captain Manver's groupies in-universe along with them getting the same flak as Hulk for their destructive antics.
>Even before they tried to YAAS QUEEN Carol, she was lambasted as being a destructive drunken murderhobo slut with daddy issues who flunked out of the Air Force.

Mutants are getting treated the same as everyone else because Marvel civvies are absolute garbage. They just play the perpetual victim/notRace card to weasel out of responsibility while being the biggest hypocrites in the room. Not only are they still supremacist preaching tolerance but constanly give Mutants preferential treatment over all laws/regulations. For fucks sake, Mr. Sinister was an actual Nazi who killed/drank the blood of Jewish Children with Mengele at Auschwitz and Magneto saw him do it when he was a child sonderkommando.
>TL;DR
The X-Men are shit because their a minority group calling everyone Nazis when half their payroll are actual 1940's Nazis using mutantdom for diplomatic immunity. Even more hilarious since they're headed by a Jew with zero self awareness, unironically acting like the Judenraus stereotype that led to all his suffering.

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>But seriously, why does Marvel's public still hate mutants so much? All mutants do now is try not to get genocided, and half the time they end up genociding themselves by accident anyway.
See: Muslims

Well there was a huge group of them who dedicated themselves to killing humans for a while. But once they were outnumbered and consistently defeated by good mutants I see the point that humanities hatred of mutants in general is a bit ham fisted. However once again with the dawn of x I think humans are entirely within reason to hate and fear mutants again

Mutants don't want to be considered human when it comes to playing by normal society rules, they have a savior complex where they think they should help even though it's not needed, mutants segregate them selves because they think society has something against them, they see them selves as victims that need special privilege because of their good like abilities, they can not control their own and it results in human suffering and death and then act like normal people have no reason or right to be afraid or angry at what they can do. Mutants would never willingly give up those powers. Also the way normal people are written in Marvel makes it look like they have no idea how society really is.

>Hank Pym was going through several breakdowns from bad PR along with Janet taking advantage of him, he's now a villain because of one slap when he was literally insane and Janet made him that way.

I always found it funny that other characters hated Pym more for smacking Janet than for creating Ultron. It was such a one-note melodramatic thing, but now its the "Uncle Ben got shot"-event his entire character is written around.

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I agree with Humans hating mutants, they're a threat to Mankind future.

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Yeah they should be hating the inhumans

This is what really burns my ass about Mutants. I get that there are a lot of stupid, bigoted Marvel citizens, but not all of that fear is unwarranted. We're talking about random people, teenagers, with abilities to nuke a small city, but somehow I'm the racist asshole for not wanting to sit next to them on the bus. Naturally people want documentation of highly dangerous mutants, but "muh oppression". Spider-Man was right, people don't like mutants because most are fucking assholes. They play the victim card CONSTANTLY, and don't want to give anything in the name of peace.

MIND
CONTROLLING
SENTIENT
BACTERIA

>Mutants are violent
most super criminals are humans/machines built by humans, and mutates, but alright

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This, but mutants as well.

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So I'm writing a supers setting and I had a take on it where all the humans are either trying to become mutants/enhanced, trying to get mutant babies, or believing that either the mutants are going to destroy the world in their power struggles or that they're doomed to be 'mere' humans and try to kill mutants our of spite.
Superpowers really fuck up the power balance of an existing civilization: people are naturally going to become obsessed with getting power for themselves or for their descendants, because otherwise they risk being tread underfoot by godlike mutants.

muggas represent a genuine evolutionary and therefore existential threat to homo sapiens. it's more than a matter of actual justifiable events where muties have been at the center of (unprofitable) controversies that have been detrimental to humankind, it's also the fact that they stand to impose supremacist ideals that would wipe out humanity, which obviously still sees itself as the dominant species on planet Earth. metahumans aren't really the same kind of threat because their powers are contingencies, unpredictable and not tied to any genetic advantage in most cases. fuck muties.

>a genuine evolutionary
The irony is that they're not "evolution", at all. They're a science experiment and not governed by their surroundings but rather a genetic lottery from a bullshit gene

Probably because they let a hate monger like Magneto not only into the team, but as a leader as well. I’d be worried seeing as how Mags has tried to genocide all of humanity a number of times

sure but the dominant discourse through which mutants are not only understood but the way they understand themselves as as an evolutionary advantage

because mutants are fags.

Jonathan Hickman explained it quite well in his Recent X-Men Run as has X-Men:Gold.

That would be a Terrific X-Men Villain.

It's True. Honestly if you're a Mutant In the Marvel Universe and your powers are not super destructive, you should try to join the Avengers

Considering how mutant powers work you can very well one day just get a guy that destroys the Earth. On accident.

The Coronavirus could wipe out everything on the planet, and the humans would still cheer at knowing that all the mutants would die in the process. The fact that they themselves will die too means nothing to them, only wiping out those muties.

maybe it's because there are monied interests pushing a divisive narrative to maintain power over the populace?

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No mutant lobby? Unless its changed mutants are supposed to be a tiny portion of the overall population but growing. They probably have about as much influence as Asian/gay lobby in America.

And as for your second point. Not to turn this into SJW. But mutants would easily get the tranny treatment. Remember x-men we see are cream of the crop Hollywood stars. Your average mutant looks like some sin against god abomination freak that only a mother could love and has powers that are useless or fucks over everyone/thing nearby. I can easily see State/Federal lawmakers dragging their feet on any type of law that would protect them from discrimination. Hell we're still opposing equal rights for women in the constitution for political reasons.

t. guy who works in federal gov

Or you know,

>Your average mutant looks like some sin against god abomination freak that only a mother could love and has powers that are useless or fucks over everyone/thing nearby
And yet the X-Men will still indoctrinate them into believing that they are superior to humanity and should embrace being an abomination.

True

That guy already exists.

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Which is ironic in a way, since even if you take the view that they're an independent species and that individual mutants are better than individual humans, their mutant abilities don't really help the long-term survival of the general population. There's more X-men related bad futures than any other Marvel group, sometimes because humans wipe them out (so they're not very well adapted to their environment), sometimes because one or two superpowerful mutants go berserk and destroy the means of keeping the species going.

I'll do one better. See the current crono virus. Everybody in public is afraid to be near anyone that looks asian and you see people running the fuck away even from 100% American born asians.

Eh to be fair all the first gen mutants are shiters. The x-men get to go into the future enough times and see that their decedents will have all the cool powers and fuck the multi color'd chicks. Now if that is worth suffering looking like a bird puke for life is another matter.

>Mutant cure is announced
>Mutant kid whose only power is being a repulsive-looking mass of eyeballs wants to take the cure so he can have some normalcy again
>X-Men come out of nowhere to destroy the cure and tells the kid that he is a traitor to the mutant race for even thinking of wanting a cure
>Next thing the kid knows, he's with the X-Men to fill crowd scenes until he dies in the next culling event

Every time.

Remember that class they had for mutant freaks telling them to make peace with the fact that they’ll never find love or get laid? Funny how 5 mutants decide what is best for all mutants

Pretty Much. Actually Beast has been shown to be fine with there being a Mutant Cure.

The Avengers got protested against around 4 times already.

>>Herc & Thor have been REEE'd at lately for being toxic males by YAAS QUEEN Captain Manver's groupies in-universe
Fucking what? I need to see this.

Aside from the fact that yes, people do hate other superheroes and you see that in plenty of comics, they aren't scared Spidey's going to fuck their bitches and replace humanity with spider children. Or that the universe will pull some bullshit and make their kid vomit napalm through his nipples.

Jono just wants to snog a girl.

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Honestly its the telepaths, any other power set and people would just gloss it over as a super power but crawling into peoples brains and controlling them or just outright scanner their ass makes it super hard to sell to the public

Yeah, but Spider Man has been shot at unjustly.

They are kidnapping people and doing weird cult shit on their island while threatening the UN into being accepted as a legit country in order to give terrorists and criminals diplomatic immunity.

So what? We all know they're going to ruin it for themselves anyway.

And that's just the stuff people know about! Things like the Sabertooth thing are even worse when you know what they're actually doing.

"Nah, nah, see, I know you're pissed off with us for snatching him away from justice for all those crimes on the grounds of 'diplomatic immunity', but its OK, we hurled him into a lightless abyss where he is kept alive and conscious but unable to do anything, potentially forever! Isn't it great!"

Don't forget stuff like every mutant having a medical alert bracelet with a detailed digital file on their powers and physiology, so they can receive prompt and safe medical care.
A world where mutants are accepted as everyday people is a world where mutant powers are accepted as the everyday practical issues they are.

Why do people today still hate gays? Prejudices take forever to go away.

A World the X-Men wants to prevent for some reason.

>A world where mutants are accepted as everyday people is a world where mutant powers are accepted as the everyday practical issues they are.

Anime like My Hero Academia and A Certain Magical Index have settings that revolve around this concept. Why mutants treat their powers as 'talents' and take advantage of them in practical ways, I have no clue.

Hell, mutants could do what the benders in Legend of Korra did and make sports out of their powers.

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>i think its an allegory to -antisemitism and anti-ethnic minorities
>
>i mean the xmen was written in the 1960s. So i suppose its just a hangover from that?

Yes and it really needs to go away. Godlike superbeings make a terrible stand-in for oppressed minorities.

And also barely make sense in a Universe with other super powered beings.

Exactly, that would be a nice shake up to the Status quo.

Superheroes don't go around calling themselves Homo Superior

Beware the alien, the heretic, and the mutant

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They tried doing stuff like that and got genocided for their trouble

They're exchanging lifesaving medicine for political legitimacy. Why do people act like they're blackmailing the world? They tried giving away their gifts for free to help the cause and it didn't work.

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Yet given the slight chance Mutants turn into fascist.

it's almost like segregation and slavery still exist (cough cough ghettos and the prison industrial complex)

Back in the day, Marvel pulled some legal strings when it came to selling their X-Men toys. Since there are certain taxes on human figures, Marvel's lawyers argued that the X-Men are mutants, not humans. They won.

If they want to use that logic, it could be argued that Mutants have NO rights as they aren't humans, so they would need additional laws.

Supposed the humans somehow kill off mutantkind. They won't stop. They'll go after the Inhumans, the Atlanteans, the Eternals, the Deviants, and even monsterkind.

>What do you do when you find out that the common people are twice as deserving of a genocidal Tyrant as any Tyrants in history has ever been recorded saying?

What's this from? I don't recognize anyone.

That's actually good thing in the long term. That way Humanity won't be enslaved or killed off by some unnatural thing.

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And not coincidentally he's constantly characterized as the mutant uncle Tom and shat on.

>All mutants do now is try not to get genocided,
No, literally all they do is "do things that make everyone else want to genocide them"

>Spidey has to fight fake news from the Bugle 24/7 to be a hero irregardless of what people think of him.
>yfw Spider-Man is Trump

>Next thing the kid knows, he's with the X-Men to fill crowd scenes until he dies in the next culling event
kek

Well, both of them did work on wrestling before...

Not really. When your peashooters do fuck all against an eldritch abomination

Because used to be most Avengers characters were all considered B-list, and so X-Men, being the popular team book for Marvel, got the lion’s share of plotlines. They were able to go on all sorts of crazy adventures while also being a neat allegory for marginalized groups. It kept them exciting and sometimes thought provoking at the same time.

Now however, thanks to movies, the field is crowded with non mutant characters who are just as well known and popular getting books all the time, so X-Men are left with little to differentiate themselves besides their allegory status. This means that writers lean into it more than ever, which only serves to make the X-Men feel stagnant as they spin in the same oppression loop over and over again.

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So, Disney ruined the X-Men?

wonder why humans hate muties when the supposedly good muties (X-Men) regularly work alongside their supposedly arch nemesis (Magneto) who genocided humans multiple times

and the good guys also regularly tell humans that they're racist because they're worried about the guy that can freeze the entire planet on the one bad day his girlfriend decides to break up with him

uh, I mean boyfriend

oh and they call themselves homo superior this whole time telling humans they'll be replaced by them and half of them look like pic related

one day for no reason at all people voted for their anti-mutant uncle Adolf

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Well a third of the normal capes are just guys with some special tech or karate training, can't compare that to magnetism or healing powers.

>They are kidnapping people
Why do you keep saying this shit when they don't?

>So, Disney ruined the X-Men?
No, Marvel started doubling down on mutants = minorities and moving further and further away from traditional superhero stories years before Disney bought Marvel, and years before the MCU started. They convinced themselves that The Metaphor was why X-Men was popular, and focused on it more and more. By the time Morrison left in 2004 they had no idea how to get back to where they were in the 1980s or 1990s, and what's left of the fanbase doesn't want them to.

Ernst has progeria, but is otherwise physically normal. Anole is a hardbodied twink with a little asymmetry that at worst looks like a scaly from Hardblush. And Bling is basically a sexy black chick version of Ben Grimm.

They should just put them in an alternative universe

When you've got at least a dozen telepaths capable of completely altering a person's perceptions, opinions, thoughts, emotions, and memories while also making it impossible for their victims to even perceive that they have had their minds tampered with, all of whom have shown a willingness to freely use their powers without restraint for their own self-interest, there is little reason to assume that they're not doing exactly that.

Strictly speaking this is a universe where you can kung fu so hard you can destroy buildings with a single punch, gain superspeed, heal yourself through mediation, and become immortal. Iron Fist alone could probably tank most X-team lineups.

Inhumans have a relatively simplistic lore to them, as well as how their powers are activated, both in the comics and MCU

Mutant lore is a clusterfuck. Inhumans > Mutants

Pretty much.
Its heavy handed race baiting.
Always was since the start really, but with modern bullshit its far far worse.

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This is my biggest issue with it.
I mean, they did try and explain it a bit time to time. Like some mutants would wreck towns or kill a bunch of people just out of panic at their power coming in.
But they always abandon such angles as it makes the 'racists' agreeable.

Yeah they make the human clearly in the right the more heavy handed they get

Well, I mean some of those people are great, but it's a small price to pay to get rid of those fucking Moonies.

Barely anyone knows about, much less cares about, Eternals and Deviants, and humans completely love the Inhumans. The Atlanteans would kinda deserve it.

They really just need to admit that Magneto and his crew, followed by Mystique and her crew, are the vast majority of the reason why everyone hates and fears mutants.

>Like some mutants would wreck towns or kill a bunch of people just out of panic at their power coming in.
That's rare as fuck and more of an Inhuman thing. I can only think of like 3 examples. The dude that Tempus retconned (which was more a product of his powers activating because of his wife's head being blown off in front of him leading them to be tied to PTSD, not really his fault and wouldn't have happened under normal circumstances), Chamber fucking up his girlfriend, and Rogue killing her boyfriend.

That's not really an Inhuman thing either. Black Bolt is probably the only real example of it happening, most of the NuHuman activation bad ends were simply them dying.

>Black Bolt is probably the only real example of it happening
Thane wiped out an entire Inhuman town.

>there is little reason to assume that they're not doing exactly that.
Then why didn't they try it with Franklin or all the other mutants that are still not on the island. They wouldn't bother trying to bring in Kate to seduce Franklin if they can just use telepathy or one of the many powers they have that can influence him to join them.

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Because everyone's expecting that, so you need to keep up enough of a pretense since anti-telepathy technology is canon. A far better question would be "why is Kitty fucking around on a boat when teleporters can do her job infinitely quicker and more efficiently?"

Because Le ebil orange man is still president >:3

So the plot can happen.

>So, Disney ruined the X-Men?
That's Ike Perlmutter for wanting to replace them with Inhumans. Keep in mind that Spider-man books are still doing well and didn't really take much damage besides arguably the Superior run even though Sony still had the rights and films were alright. In contrast FF movies were doing badly and thus their comics were canned for a while.

>mutations which cause people to not be able to have normal lives and which turn you into nearly all powerful super beings
>there are people in this thread who won't see this escalating into a doomsday clock scenario with militarys scrambling to recruit or produce their most powerful mutants, and defend them as good boys who dindu nuffin

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Dunno about all the teleporters, but Kurt right now is busy being on the Council as well as probably being a priest soon while Illyana was busy traveling with the New Mutants at space.

Do none of you guys at least read the plot for Marauders? It's cause they want to put her to work as the one to smuggle the mutants that can't use the gates either due to the gate being guarded or they are being held captive.

The average citizen in the Marvel Universe is pretty fucking retarded so I don't put anything past them.

I'd like to ask the average Marvel writer if they think mutant registration is wrong, then follow-up with their opinion on gun control.

Marvel citizens celebrate Carol Danvers, they obviously aren't meant to be portrayed as intelligent.

This has already been explained on Yea Forums ad nauseum, the reason people in the marvel Universe have such hatred towards mutants over other 'supers' is because Mutants pose an existential threat to Humans in an evolutionary sense.

No-one really gives a shit about say, Tony Stark being superior to them because he basically fills a niche no-one else can, he isn't mass displacing anyone with his intellect because he is just 1 man. Mutants on the other hand live on Earth and are basically the 'next step' in Human evolution, apart from a few 'bugs' (like physical deformations, powers so shitty they are basically a birth defect, powers so unbelievably powerful they actually can destroy cities, maybe even the planet by accident) mutants are superior in almost every way to Humans, in a sense they are basically 'upgraded' Humans.

Fact of the matter is, due to Mutants powers being so versatile (being a mutant is basically rolling a random power on the superpowers wiki) eventually all of the top positions of power in society will eventually be occupied by a mutant if there was any form of meritocracy at all.

People can hate Hulk because he is a rampaging monster, or Dr Strange because they believe sorcery will annihilate the planet, but Mutants pose a more long term, 'inevitable' threat of extinction not through genocide or violence, but just being out-bred.

I mean it would make sense that people could have such vitriol towards even the most peaceful of mutants and hate them more then some super villians. It's because a super villian may try and kill you with intent, but mutants could very well replace Humanity just by existing.

im sorry, what?

Yea Forums has also explained ad nauseum why this line of thinking doesn't work due to the fact that mutants don't breed true, the vast majority of mutants have powers that either offer no benefits or actively impede normal functioning, and the generally unstable nature of the X-gene as a superpower delivery system. Gamma-enhancement is a much more stable source of superpowers, Extremis allows for not only the enhancement of a human body but the addition of superpowers and altered physiology, the Infinity formula is reproducible immortality, humans within the MU have natural psychic affinity and can train themselves in telepathy and telekinesis, magic can be learned by anyone, you can buy superpowers from the Power Broker, and one can get so good at kung fu they can pull Jedi bullshit with chi.

>magic can be learned by anyone, you can buy superpowers from the Power Broker, and one can get so good at kung fu they can pull Jedi bullshit with chi.
MCU isn't canon to the Marvel Universe.
And if you weren't a casual you would know it's MU but Marvel Universe

>The X-Men are shit because their a minority group calling everyone Nazis when half their payroll are actual 1940's Nazis using mutantdom for diplomatic immunity. Even more hilarious since they're headed by a Jew with zero self awareness, unironically acting like the Judenraus stereotype that led to all his suffering.
So, jews?

Only since Morrison, under prior writers Mutants just looked like regular people with occasions weird looks. Glob Hernandez would just have slimy skin under Claremont.

>>Mutant cure is announced
>>Mutant kid whose only power is being a repulsive-looking mass of eyeballs wants to take the cure so he can have some normalcy again
>>X-Men come out of nowhere to destroy the cure and tells the kid that he is a traitor to the mutant race for even thinking of wanting a cure
>>Next thing the kid knows, he's with the X-Men to fill crowd scenes until he dies in the next culling event
.......This has never happened.....
And the X-Men movies don't count

Mutants are just another comic book invention that would be good in its own universe but makes little sense in the wider county of its setting.

See also: Batman.

>And the X-Men movies don't count
Well technically in the movies, im pretty sure it was the Brotherhood who attacked while the X-men were neutral and even teamed up with the government them later on.

What?

It's just americans.
Were comics to depict what happens in actual first world countries in their universes things wouldn't be half as bad.

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They gave her a taste of the mutant treatment when they found out she was half kree.

Wasn't Carol also basically like an honorary mutant when she was still Ms Marvel?

Don't expect consistency from post-2005 Marvel.

Imagine knowing you have a neighbor that can nuke your house just by flicking his finger or see through your walls.

Predjudice stems from survival instincts.

Tell me you wouldnt be scared at first in real life?

After all the good carol did for the xmen they still choose Rogue over her

>all the good carol did for the xmen
She joined them for three or so adventures, blasted off to join the starjammers, went back to the avengers, and now only comes around when she wants something.

If I lived in Marvel I would happily sacrifice my neighbors to the glory of Satan for magical girl powers, so you chose the wrong neighbor to be wary of.

>minority group calling everyone nazis (jews)
>when half their payroll are actual 1940's Nazis using jewdom for diplomatic immunity (Israel as an ethnostate for me but not for thee; the treatment of Palestine, and gentiles in general as cattle)
>headed by a Jew with zero self awareness unironically acting like the Judenraus stereotype that led to all his suffering (Netanyahu bragging about promoting laws that forbid boycotting Israel in the US and seeing nothing wrong with interfering with another state's sovereignty)

They would see a lot of fapping, that's for sure

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>ghettos
the USA was built for white people and lured in minorities just to do the hard work lol

It's like two kinds of people, ones born with guns, one not.
Doesn't matter how nice they are or what good things they do, If you piss them off or have words with them, you lose cause you know they have a gun.

Don't forget radioactive spider-blood. That's the real intrinsic threat to baseline humanity. Spider-Man looks like a normal person, his powers breed true, he can exercise most of them without looking like anything other than a well trained adult male, and they are all custom designed to keeping him alive for as long as possible. Plus different versions of the same powerset have used "pheromones" to induce states of lust in the opposite sex.
You're basically just waiting for a descendant of Parker to have a rom-com harem and then produce the future masters of the planet earth.

More.

New hypothesis
In Marvel 616 having any pre patch position to have super powers make you immune to stanchion bacteria.
That's why other superpower people in comparison don't have problems with mutant.

Considering they invade sovereign countries every other week, it’s not bad of a response.

They routinely kill people with their powers.

Most of these incidences are accidental, but when the technology exists to suppress said powers exists, but mutants steadfastly refuse to use it and have even been known to riot at mutants being charged in cases where they lose control of their powers (possibly in connection to Mens Rei) it's understandable that some people would be annoyed.

Ever had a bully at school that treated you like trash, just because knew they *still* could? Well that's basically MU's humanity.

Even if they were just "slightly better" (instead of walking nuclear bombs), Mutants would be an extinction event to humans. No matter how clever, strong or rich you are, unless you're born with the right genes, you and your family are obsolete. At best second class. At worst, just part of a dying breed.

Realworld conservatives are scared of changes already, gay people, the green new deal or plastic-less straws, even if it's just superficial whatever threatens the status quo is 1bad. Think of a world at the brink of change, where the rich can't just simply buy themselves into a position where their power and the well being of their family is guaranteed. MU's Fox News would die of hyperventilation. Our real world internet troll's are labeled as underfucked trash? Think of the world where, even if they'd get laid, their children would be close to trash by definition, because they didn't get mutant booty.

Has anyone told mutants to the face that are not a separate species?

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Sublime. Basically a bacteria that existed since the dawn of time and is able to control any creature it infects. Except it can't control mutants, so it instead controls humans and pushes them to hate and kill all mutants on sight.

Not kidding here.

>No mutant lobby? Unless its changed mutants are supposed to be a tiny portion of the overall population but growing. They probably have about as much influence as Asian/gay lobby in America.
>And as for your second point. Not to turn this into SJW. But mutants would easily get the tranny treatment. Remember x-men we see are cream of the crop Hollywood stars. Your average mutant looks like some sin against god abomination freak that only a mother could love and has powers that are useless or fucks over everyone/thing nearby. I can easily see State/Federal lawmakers dragging their feet on any type of law that would protect them from discrimination. Hell we're still opposing equal rights for women in the constitution for political reasons.
>t. guy who works in federal gov

Come on you GSA pandhandler. Asians and gays are as far apart in millitary power as China and Singapore. Gays are regularly winning against the christfags, while asians are completely irrelevant. The obvious metaphor is the minority that is 2 percent of the US population and has J street AND aipac. And in the books they literally have shadowcat run for mayor and win.

Lets extend the tranny thing. Mutant pride parades where they get into stupid fights with mutant lives matter. Mutie storytime. Mandatory mutant education in kindergarden.

He has flatscans dress up like mutants and reads disturbing stories about Apocalypse and Magneto to small children.

10/10. Would sell mutants into slavery with that ruling.

But marvels mutants are still human enough to completely destroy the world every time they win as well.

See

I still want to see the Second Amendment attack on the mutants. Scott's head gets defined as an assault weapon under New York law.

Kayfabe has gotten too crazy for me to keep up.

>e obvious metaphor is the minority that is 2 percent of the US population and has J street AND aipac.
But the fist one is the X-men before becoming radicalized and the second one is evil Brotherhood of mutants in the mutant are Jew and Palestine are not mutants. you don't seem to realize how incredibly nuanced Israel is in Jewish communities.

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>yawn silly supervillains...

Please tell me they are in the Danger Room or something

The mutie cries out in pain as he strikes you.

I'm OK with that

It creates drama and conflict and your average reader probably doesnt really think about stuff like that.

Don't forget it's later revealed that he can infect mutants.

Thunderbolts' House of M tie-in as well.

Scarlet Witch, Rogue, Sunfire, and Wonder Man are more than a match for Doc Ock, Venom, and Green Goblin. Hell, Doc Ock is lucky Sunfire didn't kill him.

mutant as a whole have never been proven to be superior. yes they have superpowers but it's not a total overall improvement. they still can get sick, even get a mutant specific disease. further more, powers are so all over that there is no solid benefit as a species. mutants can even have nonmutant children. extinction is not on the table for the human race.

Yeah but have you seen Mutie Women? That Jubilee? That Rogue? That BoomBoom?

So?

Does no one remember when Marvel tried to explain this by saying that baseline humanity had a virus that made hating mutants - for not being the Inhumans they were supposed to be as ordained by ancient aliens - genetically mandated so that even the best human still was at best apathetic to the mutant plight?

>best human still was at best apathetic to the mutant plight?
The best but Most of the superhero Community seems to be immune.

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And Spider-man wonders why people find him annoying.

That only happened because BB surprised everyone with the cloud. Usually that shit is very controlled. Nobody usually turns unexpectedly or in an unguarded place

>you don't seem to realize how incredibly nuanced Israel is in Jewish communities.

I know. I just give zero fucks. It's still closest to the pin. Comics are shit at nuance when it comes to politics. But just imagine it. The J-Men vs the Brotherhood of Zionist Israelites.

The moorlocks can be lebanon or whatever.

>the Brotherhood of Zionist Israelites.
Go with the JDL.
The ADL have call it a murder happy hate group.

What would happen if Spider-man (Peter Parker) had a daughter with She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters)?

Fair... but if racism against is mutants is genetically programmed into humanity and NOT a social construct than it utterly wrecks the hamfisted "bigotry against ______ is bad!" metaphor that has become the cornerstone of X-titles.

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I agree. The real answer here is that racism is complicated and they should write better stories that address the idea of crossing the bridge instead of burning it down for mutant militantcy.

Whedons Runaways time travel story

Planetary domination within decades, and galactic conquest within centuries.

God I fucking hate how heavy-handed this shit is for mutants. I bet Gwenpool will now get lynched to death by dickhead hillbillies with pitchforks because god forbid mutants getting actual rights for a change.

>better stories
Name an example?

Marvel: But what if we make him someone who hates gay people confirming THAT HE WAS EVIL ALL ALONG!

The X-men need to get a Law Firm for mutants.

Gwenpool will get lynched by dickhead hillbillies because she's an awful being.

*Ahem*
FUCK BENDERS!

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Then make elder god killing bullets. Its that simple.

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What?

Spider-Man has a point.

Forge did it and got called a race traitor by Storm. Granted, he WAS a race traitor at the time, but such is life.

I really wish they'd stop acting like the Anti-Mutant thing makes any sense in Marvel world where "normal" superheroes, Asgardians, Inhumans and fucking aliens all get treated better.

The first time mutants exposed themselves was Magneto having an autistic tantrum downtown about being the superior race. Things have not improved since then

I wouldn't want to piss the guy off, that's for certain, and trying to kill someone is a good way to piss them off. I'd respond like a sane person and either not bring the issue up, or, if they wouldn't find it intrusive, try to find out more information about their abilities, and make decisions about what I'd do next from there.

Good. Putting up with these freaks creates a crisis every other day

That’s the Ultimate universe, so it doesn’t count.

they're literally a new species that is replacing humans, so that's enough to cause, like, double-racism right there, but on top of that they have a long history of trying to conquer the world / destroy the world / genocide all humans, and dozens of them are among the most powerful beings in the galaxy

if mutants existed IRL we'd hate them so much that we'd probably kill everyone on the entire planet within a decade

Gwenpool will get lynched by mutant sex cultists because she's not really a mutant and doesn't belong on mutant sex island

Nah even if it does get out that she's not a mutant, she'll be allowed as long as Quentin considers her his +1. The upcoming X-factor book is apparently going to deal with a human partner of a mutant that's living on the island.

>Scarlet Witch tells the truth
>Krakoan society make her into the almost literal devil and negates her mutantdom
Honestly pretty good storytelling if they actually retcon the retcon and establish she is actually a mutant but not allowed in Krakoa because she doesn't fit the cult's narrative.

Replacement.

Why does he have black hair?

I always like this teacher guy. Does anyone know which issue this is?

Bump

Sublime.

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I just wanna stomp a mutie baby to death, bros.

>you now remember when Remender tried to move the X-Men/mutants beyond identity politics bullshit and was nearly crucified for it

I would too. I get it's a Allegory for Racism but still.

No, not really?

This page alone caused a flood of triggering.

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Here's the full page.

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I never really understood the "oppressed minority" angle. If some Jews were capable of mind raping a million goyim by sheer willpower no kidding they'd get hated

Oh please. Your idea of normality is a facade. Idiots who persecute mutants have their own fucked up issues like being raised by fanatics who engage in incest or abusing animals or angry that their spouse is having an affair.

>caused a flood of triggering.
This is pretty based & mature so of course it drove people nuts

cool

You know what I want to talk about? The fact that essentially, every mutant has two powers. Their prime powerset, and the ability to breed more mutants. That means that every ostensibly human carrier of the mutant gene is half a mutant.

Aside from the world conquest and pubescent-human-bomb-thing (valid fears), the thing Marvel seems to focus on is the replacement thing. But nobody is getting replaced. Even humanity is not going away- it is only changing. Mutants are not replacing 'us' when half of 'us' are carrying the gene and our children will be mutants, which scenario is necessary to explain the projections where mutants replace baseline humans within a couple generations.

Now, Krakoa forming an isolated breeding population changes the math on that some, but as long as they are still excluding gene carriers (which they shouldn't be!) the breeding population will still produce mutants en masse for a while. Until repeated removal of mutant progeny from the breeding pool does actually stop it.

>TL;DR Baseline humans aren't getting left behind, they're along for the ride.

Krakoa will be destroyed by the end of the run. Hickman said he'll put the toys back on the shelf for the next writer.

Hopefully. The Iron Man fans have been patiently waiting for the stupid Tony-is-adopted plot to be swept into the dustbin of stupid retcons for the last decade.

Most regular superheroes, besides the Hulk, don't sperg out every two weeks and decimate a small town

Actually most mutant powers are Meg-with-longer-fingernails tier.